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A89912 Another parcell of problemes concerning religion: necessary to be determined at this time, and to that end printed apart. Together with the prudent advice of Herennius Pontius a man famous for wisdome among the Samnites, very applyable to the present deliberation in Parliament concerning delinquents. As also the bold and stout answers of an ambassadour of Privernum, in the senate of Rome, when the Privernates were in the same low condition, in which the Kings party now is. All for the present use of the Members of both Houses. / By P.D. Nethersole, Francis, Sir, 1587-1659.; Livy. 1648 (1648) Wing N494; Thomason E526_24; ESTC R203005 6,019 10

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Another Parcell of PROBLEMES Concerning RELIGION Necessary to be determined at this time And to that end Printed apart Together with The prudent Advice of Herennius Pontius A man famous for wisdome among the Samnites Very applyable to the present Deliberation in PARLIAMENT concerning Delinquents As also The bold and stout Answers of an Ambassadour of Privernum in the Senate of Rome when the Privernates were in the same low condition in which the KINGS party now is All for the present use of the Members of both Houses By P. D. Defendend a Religio est à privatis omnibus non occidendo sed moriendo non saevitiâ sed patientiâ non scelere sed fide Lactan. fortunam reverenter habe Printed in season In the yeare 1648. Another Parcell of PROBLEMES Concerning RELIGION WHether it be lawfull for Christian subjects to take up Armes against their Soveraign for reformation of the religion by law established or in defence of their Religion not established by law or of their lives or livelyhoods in danger by due execution of law our blessed Saviour having expressly forbiden them to save their lives by such meanes with the addition of a most peremptory threatning if they do and of most gracious promises if they patiently lo●e their lives or livelyhoods for his sake And whether the truth or falsehood of their Religion or the power or number of them that attempt any of the things aforesaid doth make any difference in the case though they be the Major part of the true or representative Body of a Kingdome Or whether all these be not Anti-Christian proceedings directly contrary to the Doctrine practice of Christ and of all his holy Apostles and of the whole Church of God for many ages and particularly of the Church of England since the Reformation Whether the defence of the Religion by law established be not more properly a defence of the law then of the Religion And whether it be not lawfull for Subjects of one Religion or profession to take up armes in defence of their lives or livelyhood against the violence and force of their fellow-Subjects of a Contrary Religion or profession though established by Law and though they pretend to have or have authority from their Soveraigne to massacre or plunder them for that cause unlesse their said fellow-subjects first bring or endeavour to bring them to a due Legal tryall And whether the truth or falsehood of their Religion or the number of the thus oppressed doth make any such difference in the case in point of justice that one man of what Religion soever hath not as much right to defend himself against violence as another or as a multitude or that a multitude of what Religion or number soever ought not to forbeare such defence of their persons or estates as wel as any one single man of the same Religion or profession if proceeded against one by one in a due Legal course And whether in some occasiōs where summary proceedings against many at once are used and allowed in other matters the same ought not to be submitted unto in this also for conscience sake provided that the proceedings be such as may make it appear that they suffer as Martyrs or Confessors for Christs sake And whether there be any danger that the gates of hell should prevaile against the Church of Christ if all true Christians should suffer themselves thus to be killed like sheep or whether it have not ever been most enlarged at those times when Christians were most willing to yeeld to be so robbed or killed Whether upon the attentive reading of the respective Declarations of his Majesty and of his two Houses of Parliament whereby they respectively gave the people of this Kingdome and the whole world an account of the reasons of their having taken up Armes whereof that of his Majesty beareth date the 12. of August 1642. and that of the Parliament was set forth in the beginning of the same moneth it will not be evident to every intelligent man capable to judge of affairs of this nature that the present unhappy warre is not or at least at the beginning thereof was not a war of Religion otherwise then as Religion may be much concerned by consequent in the issue thereof And whether this will not be yet more evident by comparing the conclusion of his Majesties said Declaration of the 12. of August from the Paragraph beginning in these words Our case is truely stated c. to the end thereof with the Preface of the Ordinance of the Lords and Commons for a weekly Assesment throughout the whole Kingdome for the maintenance of the Army raised by the Parliament 4. Martii 1642. which beginneth in these words The Lords and Commons now assembled in Parliament being fully satisfied and resolved in their consciences that they have lawfully taken up Armes and may and ought to continue the same for the necessary defence of themselves and the Parliament from violence and destruction and of this Kingdome from forreigne invasion and for the bringing of notorious offenders to condigne punishment which are the only causes for which they have raised and do continue an Army and forces which cannot possibly be maintained nor the Kingdome subsist without the speedy raising of large and considerable summes of money proportionable to the great expences which now this Kingdome is at for the supporting of the said Army and for the saving of the whole Kingdome our Religion Lawes and Liberties from utter ruine and destruction in which words the Lords and Commons it may be occasioned by many indiscreet defences of their proceedings made by well-meaning but unskilfull men have with great prudence distinguished the justifying causes of their having raised and continuing an Army and forces from the things which might by consequent have come into danger if they had not raised an Army and forces to defend them among which Religion is one And this the Penner of his Majesties said Declaration had done as carefully from the beginning in these words Our quarrell is not against the Parliament but against particular men c. Whether the consideration of the accidentall and consequentiall interest of God himselfe in the issue of a matter in debate between two parties that are in warre ought to ingage souldiers or contributers to take part with the one or with the other more then Jurors in a like case the reason to the contrary being the same in both to wit because God hath no need of mans sinne in either to maintaine his cause or glory and it being a manifest sinne in a Juror to have any respect thereunto how considerable soever such interest of God may be as will be clear to the meanest capacity by putting the case between an Atheisticall Church-Papist and a godly zealous Protestant or Puritane touching the perpetuall advowson of a great Rectory and no lesse clear in the case of a warre between two Princes semblably qualified touching their title to a