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to_o salvation_n and_o be_v some_o of_o they_o save_v so_o that_o he_o acknowledge_v in_o some_o sense_n the_o visibility_n of_o the_o church_n 136._o ecclesia_fw-la vera_fw-la erat_fw-la in_o papatu_fw-la sed_fw-la papatus_fw-la non_fw-la erat_fw-la vera_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la alii_fw-la cautiùs_fw-la papatum_fw-la dixerunt_fw-la fuisse_fw-la in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la non_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la in_o papatu_fw-la prideaux_n lect._n de_fw-fr visibil_n eccl._n p._n 136._o even_o roman_a which_o protestant_n deny_v not_o who_o grant_v that_o the_o true_a church_n be_v in_o or_o under_o the_o papacy_n although_o the_o papacy_n be_v not_o that_o church_n neither_o be_v there_o any_o contradiction_n in_o this_o for_o a_o leper_n be_v a_o true_a man_n and_o as_o true_o visible_a as_o one_o that_o be_v clean_o leprosy_n be_v not_o a_o distinct_a body_n but_o a_o disease_n cleave_v to_o it_o in_o like_a manner_n popery_n be_v not_o of_o itself_o a_o distinct_a church_n but_o a_o corrupt_a humour_n in_o 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