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A67871 A just vindication of the questioned part of the reading of Edward Bagshaw, Esq; an apprentice of the common law. Had in the Middle Temple Hall the 24th day of February, being Munday, anno Dom. 1639. upon the statute of 25 E.3. called, Statutum pro clero, from all scandalous aspersions whatsoever. With a true narrative of the cause of silencing the reader by the then Archbishop of Canterbury: with the arguments at large of those points in his reading, for which he was questioned at the Council-Board. Bagshaw, Edward, d. 1662. 1660 (1660) Wing B396; ESTC R208288 31,311 44

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Conversation shall teach me to do it Opere habent opera suam linguam And though you have by these favours to me made me your Companion in Company in Conference and now in Council yet my Love my Duty my Thanks shall make me a Servant to you and to this whole Society for ever After this Speech I had thanks from them all Seriatim and was made and confirmed a Bencher And now having finished this Narrative I shall according to my promise publish all my Arguments at large touching those four Points mentioned before in the Narrative The Readers Arguments upon the four Points mentioned before in his Vindication POINT I. WHether an Act of Parliament may pass and be good by the Assent of the King his Temporal Lords and Commons and all the Spiritual Lords being absent or if present wholly disassenting And I hold it may A Jove principium This is a Point which mainly concerns our Religion established by the Act of 1 Eliz. which passed by the assent of that Queen her Temporal Lords and Commons all the Spiritual Lords disagreeing which if no good Act then is not our Religion confirmed by Parliament This Point I framed from the opinion of as learned a Bishop as ever this Nation enjoyed since the hour it enjoyed him I mean Bishop Jewel in the defence of his Apology against Dr. Harding lib. 6. c. 2. divis 1. where the said Act of 1 Eliz. for the Uniformity of Prayer and Sacraments is denyed to be a good Act for want of the concurrence of the Bishops The Bishop affirms it to be a good Act and his words are these Verbatim Where you would seem to say That the Parliament holden in the first year of the Q. Majesties Raign was no Parliament for that the Bishops wilfully refused to agree to the godly Laws there concluded you seem therein to bewray some want of skill The wise and learned could have told you That in the Parliament of England matters have evermore used to pass not of necessity by the special consent of the Bishops and Archbishops as if without them no Statute might lawfully be Enacted but only by the more part of Voices yea although all the Archbishops and Bishops were never so earnestly bent against it And Statutes so passing in Parliament only by the Voices of the Lords Temporal without the consent and agreement of the Lords Spiritual have nevertheless alwayes been confirmed and ratified by the Royal assent of the Prince and have been Enacted and published under the names of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal Read the Statutes of King Edw. the First there you shall find that a Parliament solemnly holden by him at St. Edmondsbury the Archbishops and Bishops were shut forth and yet the Parliament held good and wholesome Laws were there enacted the departing or absence or malice of the Lords Spiritual notwithstanding In the Records thereof it is written thus Habito Rex cum suis Baronibus Parliamento Clero excluso Statutum est c. Likewise in Provisione de Martona in the time of King H. 3. where matters were moved of Bastardy touching the Legitimation of Bastards born before Marriage the Statute past wholly with the Lords Temporal whether the Lords Spiritual would or no yea and that against the express Acts and decrees of the Church of Rome The like hereof as I am informed may be found Anno 11 R. 2. cap. 3. Howbeit in these Cases I walk somwhat without my Compass Touching the Judgment hereof I refer my self wholly to the Learned Thus far goeth that famous Bishop This Opinion of the Bishop I shall confirm by considering the Law in two Points Point 1. Whether an Act of Parliament may pass by the Temporal Lords onely the Spiritual Lords being all present but disagreeing ad disassenting to the Act And this was the very Case in passing of that Act of 1 Eliz. For in the Journal of that Parliament it is said That all those matters which in that Parliament concerning the Church Service and Sacrament the Bills passed dissentientibus Episcopis with a particular enumeration of their names which dissented as likewise two Orations are recorded in the Journal to be made by Dr. Scot Bishop of Chester and Dr. Fecknam Abbot of Westminster against that Act Now that this was a good Act of Parliament though all the Bishops disagreed it is manifest by the course of all Parliaments for the Bishops sit in Parliament not as they are Spiritual men but by reason of their Temporal Baronies annexed to their Dignities Nonratione Nobilitatis as Stamford speaks Pl. Coron fol. 153. sed ratione Officit And therefore if the voices of the greater number of temporal Lords exceed theirs the Act shall pass as the Act of the whole Lords House and their voices shall be involved in the greater number of the Temporal Lords and so shall be the Act of all the Lords as well Temporal as Spiritual Andso is the Book of 11 H. 7. fol. 27. Bro. Parl. 107. And so is the Act-Roll of 1 Eliz. Ex assensu omnium Dominorum tam Spiritualium quam Temporalium And so is likewise the Printed Act and so it ought to be This will better appear by considering the divers forms of Penning of Statutes from the time of Magna Charta to this day 1. Rex statuit as Magna Charta and other old Statutes 2. Statuimus Ordinavimus as 27 E. 1. Stat. de Finibus And both these forms are good for in them both are implied the Lords and Commons 3. Be it enacted by the King with the assent of the Lords and Commons according to the Book in 11 H. 7. 4. But the best form of all is Be it enacted by the Authority of Parliament And so are the Books of 7 H. 7. fol. 14. Bro. Parl. 76. and Crompton jurisdict. of Court f. 12. The proofs of this Point will further appear in handling the second Point which I now come to Point 2. Whether an Act of Parliament may pass all the Spiritual Lords absenting themselves from the House of Peers And I think it may That this may not seem strange I will back it by Authority in Law by Example and Reasons 1. For Authority in Law It is the resolution of all the Judges of England 7 H. 8. 184. Kelwayes Reports in these words Nostre Sur l'Roy port assets bien tener son Parliament per luy ses Surs temporall Commons tout sans l'Spirituall Surs i. e. Our Lord the King may well enough hold his Parliament by himself his Lords temporal and Commons without the spiritual Lords at all According to this resolution there are many Examples The Parliament summoned at Edmonds-Bury which the Bishop mentioneth was a good Parliament and yet all the Prelates were excluded and upon very great Reasons which is not mentioned by the Bishop That K. E. 1. being exercised in martial affairs levied a great sum of money of Laity and
fully determining to deliver the Law of the Land concerning all Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction in the Kingdom not only in the Inferior Courts of Ordinaries but in that great Court of the High Commission The Common Law of England speaking to all those Courts in the language of the supreme Lawgiver Hither shall you pass and no further and here shall you stay your proud waves But I considered the Title of my Statute was Circumspectè agatis which put me in mind of the saying of an excellent Historian That a man might follow Truth so neer the Heels that it might at last dash out his Teeth I do not say this was any Argument to me of parting with so good a Statute for it had savoured of Fear and base Affection Et viro cordato indigno The only reason why I waved those two former Statutes and resolved upon this Law I have now chosen was my respects to the Students of this Society for whose benefit I had chiefly destinated these my poor labours by reading upon such a Law as was larger in extent comprehending in it self the two former more frequent in our books and in Westminster Hall and of better learning and use Et hic Baculum fixi I never wavered more But finding the whole little for words but a Volume for Learning and matter I was forced to confine my thoughts only to the seventh Chapter of this Statute and although I had not the happiness to have the help of other mens labours upon this Law as not knowing it was ever Read on before yet I have adventured to Read upon it choosing rather to fall alone where I might happily find either your pardon or pity then through the arms of a Guide where I could expect neither And because I talk of falling I have no other course then to chuse such a Supporter as will never fail me and that is your love which is of such a Composition that where it finds out desert it can make it like the Philosophers Stone it can turn a base Mettal into perfect Gold This I earnestly seek for and hope to find at all your hands Et sub hac spe ductus rem aggredior And come to my Statute After which I Expounded my whole Statute being an ancient Law according as all ancient Readers were wont to do being nine Chapters in the Printed Statute but are twelve Chapters in the part Read consisting upon Petitions of the Lords and Commons to the King and his Answers thereupon whose Answers made the Law Out of which Petitions and Answers entred in the Parliament Roll the Judges at the end of the Parliament did in form of Law frame an Act of Parliament which was Proclaimed and published and afterward Printed when Printing came in use which was about the time of H. 6. And this was the manner of Parliaments in E. 3 time and long before After I had Expounded my whole Statute according to the old manner I thereof made Ten divisions according to the then manner of Readers upon every division put Ten Cases as the Historian truly relates who goeth on and saith That my first Case was this Whether or no it be a good Act of Parliament without the Lords Spiritual Here is some mistake for this was not my first Case for my first Case upon my first division consisted of fourteen points but this was the first point of my first Case and it was thus Whether an Act of Parliament may pass and be good by the Assent of the King his temporal Lords and Commons all the Spiritual being absent or if present wholly disassenting And I held it might And here a man would wonder that by a Clergy man especially so clear a point as the Law makes this to be should be brought into question when I had so great a Champion on my side as that Famous Learned and Pious man Bishop Jewell in the defence of his Apology against Dr. Harding who with the rest of the Jesuits held the Statute of 1 Eliz. for Uniformity in Religion to be no act of Parliament because no Bishop or Spiritual Lord assented to that Act but it then passed only by the assent of the Queen the Temporal Lords and Commons Bishop Jewel stoutly maintains it to be a good Act and gives divers Reasons and Authorities for the same which in my Argument of this point herein after expressed I shall cite at large And I thought it a most needful point to be known to the Students of Law when as the establishment of the Reformed Religion of the Church of England lay at the stake upon it for I read it only for the Middle Temple Hall not for Lambeth and could not imagine that any Charon could have been found that would have Ferryed it over the water The Historian goeth on and saith the second Case thus If any benificed Clerk was capable of Temporal Jurisdiction at the making of that Law This was not a Case but an other point of my first Case upon the first division it was thus Whether a Benificed Clerk may by my Statute exercise Civil Jurisdiction and be a Justice of Peace I put not this Case of a Bishop at all as being of a higher Sphear then a Clark but only of a benificed Clerk A needfull point to be known to young Students to whom alone I intended my Reading For at the time of making my Statute there was not in England a Beneficed Clerk a Justice of Peace but yet at the time of my Reading there were never more In the Argument of which points I did not at all as I shall hereafter make appear speak against their being Justices of Peace for that they might be so by Law by virtue of the Kings Commission Only by way of Caution in that they might refuse in respect of their Orders and I only declared how the Law of the Land and the Law of the Church stood heretofore in that point and that according to the rule of our Saviour Ab initio non fuit sic The Historian goeth on and saith His Third Case thus Whether a Bishop without calling a Synod hath power as Diocesan to convict an Heretick That which I put was the fourth Point of my third Case upon the third division and it was this Whether a Clerk that is an Heretick may at this day be convicted and condemned for Heresie by his own Ordinary alone And I thought he could not This was a most needful point to be known to the Students of Law by reason of the obscurity of the Law in it not only in respect of the definition of Heresie and what it shall be said to be wherein the Law was dark but likewise how a Heretick should be convicted And the Statutes concerning Heresie being repealed by King Edw. 6. and revived again by Q. Mary and afterwards all of them repealed again by Q. Elizabeth But for none of these was I silenced but upon another point upon touching the Jurisdiction