Feasts her Conception and Nativity are considered We are in hopes that the Excellent Author of this most ingenious and diverting Discourse will e're long oblige the World with a Second Part and teach the Papists at length to grow ashamed of their intolerable Superstitions towards the Virgin Mary As for those of the other Communion it is but little they have published in particular on this Subject besides what I have already mentioned But two Pieces there are which I ought by no means no forget viz. 1. Contemplations on the Life and Glory of H. Mary 2. An Apology for the Contemplations by Dr. I. C. Which Apology was fully answered in the ingenious Preface to the Book called An Account of the Life and Death of the Blessed Virgin. SECT IX Of the Validity of Orders in the C. of E. I shall mention but one Particular more on which we have of late as heretofore been attack'd by those of the Roman Church and effectually Vindicated our selves both against their Calumnies and their Reasons and that is as to the Validity of ORDERS in the Church of England THE Occasion of reviving this Matter was given by a little Scurrilous Libel that went abroad under the name of The Church of England truly Represented And in Reply to whose Calumnies Three Discourses have been Published two of them new the other only reprinted viz. 1. A Vindication of the Ordinations of the Church of England in answer to a Paper written by one of the Church of Rome to prove the Nullity of our Orders 2. A Defence of the Ordinations and Ministry of the Church of England in Answer to the Scandals raised or revived against them in several late Pamphlets and particularly in one intituled the Church of England truly Represented c. 3. A short Defence of the Orders of the Church of England as by Law establish'd against some scattered Objections of Mr. Webster of Linne But this Subject hath been most largely and learnedly handled by the Learned Mr Brown of S. John's College in Cambridge in his Sermon ad Clerum and in another Sermon Preached before the University on Commencement Sunday Translated into Latin and both together Printed at Cambridge under this Title 4. Concio ad Clerum habita coram Academia Cantabrigiensi Junii 11. An. 1687. pro Gradu Baccal in S. Theologia Vbi vindicatur Vera Valida Cleri Anglicani Ineunte Reformatione Ordinatio Cui accessit Concio habita Julii 3. 1687. de Canonica Cleri Anglicani Ordinatione Latine reddita aucta a Th. Brown S. T. B. Coll. D. Joh. Evang Soc. annexum est Instrumentum Consecrationis Matth. Parker Archiep. Cant. ex MS. C. C. C. Cantabr I hear the worthy Author hath been very earnestly requested to Translate these Latin Sermons into English and I am told that he delays it only upon the account of some Answer that the Papists have been talking they would give to them being desirous to make his Translation and Vindication one trouble I cannot therefore but in the behalf of those who are so desirous to have these Sermons in English request our Adversaries That if they have any thing to say to them they would make a little more haste with it And for the mighty Master of Controversie who I hear hath resolved to answer a Paragraph in one of them I must needs tell him That Nine Months is more by Eight and an half than an ordinary Controvertist would have taken to answer such a Piece in But in this Controversie we have not been merely upon the Defensive Part but have attack'd their Orders as well as defended our own This a Learned Man of our Church hath done in a Book under this Title 5. Roman Catholics uncertain whether there be any true Priests or Sacraments in the Church of Rome Miscellany Treatises SECT X. Having thus reduced the Principal Treatises that have been set forth to their Particular Heads as far as in so great a Confusion of Matter I could well do it it remains only to add here such Treatises on both sides as I have before pass'd by or could not be so readily brought to any special Consideration NOW those of this kind which have been set forth by the CHURCH of ROME are these 1. Question of Questions 2. Why are you a Catholic 3. Popery Anatomized or the Papists clear'd from the false Imputation of Idolatry and Rebellion 4. Veritas Evangelica or the Gospel Truth asserted in xvi useful Questions 5. Pope Pius Profession of Faith vindicated c. 6. Dr. Sherlock sifted from his Bran and Chaff 7. The Pharisee unmask'd 8. Assertio vii Sacramentorum by King Henry viiith against Luther 9. A Reformd Catechism by P. Manby 10. Animadversions on the Rishop of Bath's Sermon c. To these they have because not at leisure to write new Books or for some other better Reason added an old Book written by one F. Huddleston a Benedictine it is called 11. A Short and Plain way to the Faith and Church c. To this there is an Answer almost finished by a very Learned Person who will demonstrate to the World how little that Book had in it to convince On Our Part have appear'd of this Miscellany kind these that follow 1. Remarks on Popery Misrepresented with reference to the Deposing Doctrine 2. Pope Pius's Creed with Comments 3. The Additional Articles in Pope Pius's Creed no Articles of the Christian Faith. 4. A few plain Reasons why a Protestant of the Church of England should not turn Roman Catholic 5. Thirty plain but sound Reasons why Protestants differ from Popery 6. A Discourse shewing that Protestants are on the safer side notwithstanding the uncharitable Judgement of their Adversaries and that their Religion is the surest way to Heaven 7. A Pacifick Discourse of the Causes and Remedies of the Differences about Religion which distract the Peace of Christendom 8. The Missionaries Arts discover'd 9. A Request to Roman Catholics to answer certain Queries on several of their Tenets mention'd 10. A Brief Account of the first rise of the Name Protestant c. 11. An Historical Relation of several great and learned Romanists that have embraced the Protestant Religion 12. A Catechism truly representing the Doctrines and Practices of the Church of Rome with an Answer to them 13. The Plausible Arguments of a Romish Priest Answer'd by an English Protestant 14. A Discourse between two Protestants in Answer to a Popish Catechism call'd A Short Catechism against all Sectaries 15. A Plain Defence of the Protestant Religion fitted to the Meanest Capacity being a full confutation of the Net for the Fishers of Men. 16. Some Queries to Protestants Answer'd and an Explication of the Roman Catholic 's Belief in Four great Points consider'd 1. Concerning their Church 2. Their Worship 3. Justification 4. Civil Government 17. The Judgement of Private Discretion in matters of Religion defended in a Sermon at S. Paul 's Covent-Garden By Mr. Kidder 18. The
Imprimatur Liber cui Titulus A Continuation of the Present State of the Controversie between the Church of England and the Church of Rome Junii 7. 1688. H. Maurice RR. in Christo P. D. Wilhelmo Archiep. Cant. a Sacr. A CONTINUATION OF THE Present State OF THE CONTROVERSY BETWEEN THE CHURCH of ENGLAND AND THE CHURCH OF ROME BEING A Full ACCOUNT of the BOOKS that have been of late Written on Both Sides The Second Edition LONDON Printed for Ric. Chiswell at the Rose and Crown in St. Paul's Church-yard MDCLXXXVIII TO THE VERY REVEREND and WORTHY THE AUTHORS OF THE DISCOURSES here Collected IN Defence of the Church of ENGLAND GENTLEMEN AFter so much Pains as you have taken and so much Good as by the Blessing of God on your Endeavours you have done to that Church of which I esteem it my happiness that I am a Member may it be permitted to a private and obscure hand to return you this small Tribute in acknowledgment of that Sense which not my self alone but I dare say every single person of our Communion has of what we all owe to your Learning and your Integrity I present you here with a short view of your own Labours or rather I offer to the World a small Collection of those Discourses you have written in Defence of our Religion And how unsuitable soever it may appear to usher a few Titles of Books into the World under the protection of so many great Names yet I am confident the Consequence of this Undertaking cannot but be as Honourable to you all as I heartily wish it may and as I am sure it ought to be When it shall be consider'd how vast a Number and of what acurate and learned Discourses is here comprised and for almost all which we are in the compass of about Three Years indebted to you It is indeed a matter of just wonder to all those who are acquainted with your method of living here how persons engaged not only in a laborious attendance on their Parochial Cures and a constant return of painful and acurate Preaching but almost utterly distracted with that multitude of other Business which in these last Years has taken up the greatest part of your time should yet find leisure to discharge all these and at the same time to adorn the Press with so many Books as might alone have seemed more than enough to have employ'd your whole Industry But blessed be God who has raised you up against such a time as this and given us so great an Earnest of his Favour to us that as we had never more need of Able and Honest and Firm Guides than at this day so I may venture to challenge any Age of the Church to shew such a Number of truly Learned and Pious and constant Pastors as the Church of England and especially this City do's now abound with May your Labours and your Examples always find such a success as they deserve and as they have of late met with amongst us And since we cannot now have any excuse for our Apostacy should we renounce our Holy Prosession after so much as you have done to convince even the most ignorant Persons amongst us of the Truth and Purity of it may we ever firmly adhere both to you and it That when we shall appear before the Great Bishop and Pastor of our Souls we may all of us give up our Accounts with joy This as it is my hearty Wish so I am perswaded it is the sincere Resolution of every one of those whom God has committed to your Care. And that in this Firmness we may be all of us established more and more shall be the continual Prayer of him who in all thankful Duty will ever remain GENTLEMEN Your Most Humble and Obedient Servant TO THE READER AS for those who shall please to peruse this Treatise I have but very little to premise to them They will here see an Exact Collection as far as I was able to make it of the Controversie on both sides between our Divines and those of the Church of Rome And in that the Victory of Truth over Error Never certainly was any Cause more entirely baffled than the Popish is at this time Never was a Controversie more fully handled and that in such a manner as to instruct even the meanest Capacities than This has been in these last years Insomuch that now there is scarce a person amongst us so ignorant that is not able to make a Stand against the rudest Attacques of our Adversaries Nay our very Footmen esteem themselves and I think have satisfied the World that they are not mistaken an equal match for Jesuits i. e. for those who would at least be thought the most able Men of their Party and dropt down from Heaven on purpose to oppose the Growth of Protestant Heresie What others may judg of this I cannot tell But for my part I cannot but from thence conclude That certainly the Hand of God is with us for Good. And that He who has given us this Opportunity to understand the Weaknesses and Deceits of our Enemies and endu'd us with so great and general a Resolution never upon any Account whatsoever to depart from our most Holy Religion will also crown all our future Endeavours with such a Success that the Generations to come shall rise up and call us Blessed When they shall see our Firmness and our Labours in the Lord and receive from our hands that pure and uncorrupted Truth which I am persuaded those excellent Treatises I here mention shall deliver down even to the very End of the World. THE CONTENTS THE Occasion and Design of this Continuation Page 1 The Whole Divided into II. Generals Page 2 FIRST PART Of the Cases against Popery begun in the late King's Time. ib. The Catalogue of them reduced to the following Heads 1. Preliminary Discourses Page 2 3 2. Of the Church Page 4 3. Of the Rule of Faith. Page 5 4. Of Particular Points ib. An Account of the Disputes that have arisen on the Occasion of the Discourse against Transubstantiation Page 8 SECOND PART Of the Discourses that have been publish'd in Defence of the Church of England since the Time of His Present Majesty With an Account of the Popish Treatises that occasioned them Page 9 These reduted to the several following Heads SECT I. Of the REPRESENTING Controversie The Papist Represented and Misrepresented Page 10 The Bishop of Condom's Exposition Page 12 Good Advice to the Pulpits Page 16 And the Disputes occasioned by these Treatises SECT II. Of the pretended Agreement between the Church of England and the Church of Rome Page 17 SECT III. Of the Disputes concerning the Holy EUCHARIST 1. Real Presence Page 19. 2. Communion in One kind Page 20 3. Transubstantiation Page 22 SECT IV. Of the Disputes concerning the CHURCH Page 25 1. Of the Notes of the Church Page 26 2. Of the Unity and Authority of the Church Page 27 3. Of
Protestant Resolved Or a Discourse shewing the Unreasonableness of his turning Roman Catholic for salvation 19. A Discourse wherein is held forth the Opposition of the Doctrine Worship and Practices of the Roman Church to the Nature Designs and Characters of the Christian Faith. 20. Two short Discourses against the Romanists by Mr. Dodwell Cambden Professor in the University of Oxford 21. An Answer to a Discourse concerning the Celibacy of the Clergy printed at Oxford 22. A Letter to a Lady furnishing Her with Scripture Testimonies against the principal Points and Doctrines of Popery In return to the last of these Discourses Father Darrell the Jesuit has been pleased to set out a Single Half Sheet which he calls A Letter to a Lady wherein he desires a Conference with the Gentleman who writ Her that Letter This is indeed a new way of answering Books and becoming the busie assuming spirit of that Society One would wonder after so little Success as they have hitherto met with in these Encounters what should move this Reverend Father to be so forward to come into the same List with Goodwin Pulton and a few others of the same Character For tho abundance of Noise in a Conference and of Misrepresentation after may help out a weak Cause and an Illiterate Defender of it when they are sure before-hand of the person for whose sake it is held yet methinks they should be more wary than to run upon such Hazards where in all probability they are not like either to gain their Proselyte or to have the opportunity of these kind of Subterfuges to assist them However tho I have neither the Honour to know the Lady or the Author of that Letter yet for this good Father's satisfaction I will venture for once to promise him That if her Ladyship does desire it not only the Author of that Letter will be ready to meet him but to shew how willing we are to encourage a hopeful Design let him chuse his Gownman between Blackwall and Hide-park Corner and I dare say there is not one among them all that on this or any other occasion will decline to shew him how little reason he has for his forwardness I am now hastning to an End of this Vndertaking and I think I cannot better finish it than with a short Account of a Controversie which made no small Noise in the World between the Reverend Dr. Tenison and Father Pulton the Jesuit About Michaelmas last they met at a House in Long-Acre on the acount of a Boy whom Mr. Pulton had perverted from our Religion Great things were presently talked as usual on such occasions concerning this Conference and the Papists fail'd not to boast of a mighty Conquest made over the Doctor This forced him to resolve on a Publication of what passed tho otherwise as little fit as designed to be communicated to the world Each Party set forth his own Account and first Mr. Pulton his in two Books called 1. A true Account of the Conference c. 2. A true and full Account of a Conference held about Religion between Dr. Thomas Tenison and A. Pulton one of the Masters in the Savoy Dr. Tenison's was Entituled 3. A true account of a Conference held about Religion at London Sept. 29. 1687. between A. Pulton Jesuit and Thomas Tenison D. D. This was followed on the Jesuit's part with a new Discourse called 4. Remarks of A. Pulton upon Dr. Thomas Tenison 's late Narrative with a Confutation of the Doctor 's Rule of Faith and Reply to A. Cressener 's pretended Vindication To which Dr. Tenison reply'd in a second Treatise viz. 5. Mr. Pulton consider'd c. And this produced another Discourse from another hand viz. Mr. Meredith who was present at the Conference called 6. Some farther Remarks on the late Account given by Dr. Tenison of his Conference with Mr. Pulton As for what is added in Mr. Pulton's 3d. Treatise in Answer to A. Cressener the meaning of it is this Mr. Cressener a Schoolmaster being present at the Conference Mr. Pulton in his account of it gave him some occasion to complain of his Relation as to that part of it which concerned him and therefore to justifie himself he published a short Treatise to which Mr. Pulton there refers viz. 7. The Vindication of A. Cressener Schoolmaster in Long-Acre from the aspersions of A. Pulton Jesuit and Schoolmaster in the Savoy And thus this Controversie ended but yet I must not leave it till I have taken notice of another that it begat and that no less memorable than the foregoing For upon the occasion of this Conference a Paper was taken notice of much used by the puny Controvertists of our days called 1. Speculum Ecclesiasticum Or an Ecclesiastical Prospective Glass Written as we are told by a Souldier of that Party T. Ward and to which Dr. Tenison procured a young Man a Friend of his to write an Answer which he did Entituled 2. The Speculum Ecclesiasticum consider'd in its false Reasonings and Quotations But before this was published the Doctor obtained a Copy of a Defence which the Soldier had prepared of his Quotations but was not yet come from the Press and to finish all at once an Answer was set forth to that too at the same time ere it could appear abroad in the world This the Soldier resented and expressed his sense of it in a Letter to Dr. Tenison which together with a Reply to it were published under the Title of 3. An Answer to the Letter of the Catholic Souldier in a Letter from C. D. to A. B. the Examiner of his Speculum However not long after the Defence was publish'd with a dreadful Name viz. 4. Monomachia Or A Duel Between Dr. Thomas Tenison Pastor of St. Martins and a Roman Catholic Souldier And so I think this worthy Controversie ended SECT XI Having now run through the several Heads of Controversy that have of late exercised the Pens of our Learned Men in Defence of our Religion it may not be amiss to stop here awhile and by a brief Recapitulation of the Whole see what more remains to a compleat Vindication of our Selves against all the Tricks and Artifices as well as against the Arguments of our Adversaries IT is sufficiently evident from the foregoing Collection what slender Returns those of the Church of Rome have made to the many excellent Discourses which themselves without any provocation of ours have extorted from us And what prejudice they have hereby done to their Religion I am confident they themselves are not unsensible I need not say what a Number of Disputes they have altogether let fall how many of our Books to this day remain Vn-answered and are ever likely to be so In a word what Trifles many times they have set forth under the arrogant Title of FULL ANSWERS to those they have thought fit to take Notice of And now at last to compleat all they seem to have utterly deserted the
the Infallibility of the Church Page 29 SECT V. Of the Prerogatives of St. Peter and the Popes as his Successors Page 31 SECT VI. Of the Reformation of the Church of England and the Imputations of Schism and Heresie laid against us on the account of it Page 34 SECT VII Of the Disputes concerning the Rule of Faith And in particular 1. Of the Holy Scripture Page 38 2. Of Tradition Page 39 SECT VIII Of the Disputes concerning the Idolatry of the Church of Rome Page 49 1. In General Page 50 2. In Particular Worship of Images Page 51 Invocation of Saints Page 52 SECT IX Of the Disputes concerning the Validity of Orders In the Church of England Page 54 In the Church of Rome Page 55 That the Papists are upon their own Principles uncertain whether they have any true Priests in their Church ib. SECT X. Of other Particular Points in Dispute betwixt us Popish Treatises Page 56 Discourses of the Church of England Page 57 A full Account of what pass'd on the occasion of the Conference between Dr. Tenison and Father Pulton the Jesuit Page 60 SECT XI In which the several Treatises before mention'd are reduced to their distinct Arguments for the direction of those who would fully satisfie themselves in any Particular Point in Dispute betwixt Vs and those of the Church of Rome viz. Page 63 1. General Discourses Page 65 2. Of Religious Worship Page 66 3. Of Prayer in an Unknown Tongue Page 66 4. Of the Invocation of Saints Page 66 Particularly of the B. Virgin. 5. Of Images and Reliques Page 67 6. Of Idolatry Page 68 7. Of Merits Satisfactions Purgatory and Indulgences Page 68 8. Of the Sacraments Page 68 9. Of Confession and Penance Page 69 10. Of Extreme Unction Page 69 11. Of Orders Page 69 12. Of the Real Presence Page 70 13. Of Transubstantiation Page 70 14. Of the Sacrifice of the Mass Page 71 15. Of the Adoration of the Host Page 71 16. Of Communion in Both Kinds Page 71 17. Of the Rule c. of Faith. Page 72 18. Of the Holy Scripture Page 72 19. Of Tradition Page 73 20. Of the Church Page 73 21. Of St. Peter and the Pope Page 74 22. Of the Reformation Page 74 23. Of Schism and Heresie Page 74 24. Of the Celibacy of the Clergy Page 75. SECT XII In which the whole is closed with an Account of the Present Undertaking to examine the Texts of Scripture alledged in favour of the Popish Errors Page 75 A CONTINUATION OF THE PRESENT STATE OF THE Controversie IT is now some time since it has been very much desired That a Full Account might be given to the World of the several Tracts that have these late Years been publish'd on the Points in Controversie between the Church of England and the Church of Rome The Present State of the Controversie set forth about two years since being become very Imperfect and serving rather to raise Mens expectations of some further Account to be given of this matter than to satisfie their desires with what is there offer'd I will not pretend to have been so diligent an Observer of these Things as not to have let many Discourses slip in such a number as have appear'd on both sides And must therefore humbly entreat the Representer's favour to me if He find some defects in my present Undertaking and that he will not impute that to a spirit of Misrepresentation in me which really proceeds only from my Ignorance or Inadvertency What Discourses have come to my Hands I will faithfully give an account of and if He or any other for Him will put forth an Appendix of what is wanting here it will be much more to the satisfaction of the World than to run over once more The Cases against Popery his Common Place against me as a New and Vpstart sort of Misrepresenter and fancy that the Eyes of all the World are set upon him to chastise me for my Unsincerity The present State of the Controversie gives an Account how the Divines of our Church at the time of the late King's death were engaged in a Design of publishing some Discourses on the several Points in Controversie between Vs and the Papists correspondent to what they had done not long before with reference to our Disputes with our Brethren the Dissenters And how the favourable Reception their former Attempt had met with from these encouraged them to hope their Labours would not be altogether unacceptable to those But the Catalogue of what they have done in pursuance of this design is imperfect and it may not be amiss before I proceed any farther to give a more compleat one here A Full Account of the Cases that have been published on the Points disputed between the Church of England and the Church of Rome I. PRELIMINARY DISCOVRSES 1. A Preservative to an Ingenuous Tryal of Opinions in Religion 2. The difference of the Case between the Separation of Protestants from the Church of Rome and the Separation of Dissenters from the Church of England 3. A Preservative against Popery Being some plain Directions to unlearned Protestants how to dispute with Romish Priests In Two Parts By the Reverend Dr. Sherlock Master of the Temple I place this Discourse here because I do not see to what other Class it could more properly have been reduced thought it is but just now publish'd and perhaps was never design'd by its learned Author to add to the number of this kind of Treatises But that which is more pertinent for me here to observe is That the former part of this Undertaking soon met with such an Answer as is now commonly given to our Books when any at all is given viz. one single Sheet from Father Sabran the Jesuit and who is now well known by his late little Encounters of this Nature It was called 4. An Answer to Dr. Sherlock's Preservative against Popery c. To this an exact and solid Answer was return'd by a Protestant Footman one W. Giles and who may justly be offer'd to the World as an Instance of what use our late Discourses have or might have been for the Instruction even of the meanest Persons in the matters in Controversie between Vs and the Church of Rome The knowledge which this ingenious and diligent Man obtain'd being entirely due to them and yet how considerable it is I shall leave it to any one to judge that will but have the Curiosity to examine his Performance It is called 5. A Defence of Dr. Sherlock's Preservative against Popery in Reply to a Jesuit 's Answer By W. Giles a Protestant Footman living with Madam H. in Mark-lane This Defence and the Preface of the Publisher of it did put the Jesuit quite out of all Patience and Decency and made him forget himself so far as once more to provoke the Reverend Dr. Sherlock by publishing an Answer to both Parts of the Preservative against Popery and to the Footman's Defence of the
our Language Accordingly we find it to have been publish'd some time since under the Title of A Treatise of Communion under One Kind Now however it might have been sufficient for us to have follow'd their Example in translating that most accurate Answer of the late Monsieur Larrogue to it yet one of our Divines was content to give it a new Consideration in an excellent Book called A Discourse of the Communion in One Kind In Answer to a Treatise of the Bishop of Meaux of Communion c. And here this Flourish ended The Translator whoever he was of the Bishop's Treatise looking upon himself to be no more obliged to defend it against his English Adversary than the Bishop thought himself to be to vindicate it against the Attack of his French Antagonists But tho this Controversie proceeded no farther yet the Subject has been lately again revived by a very Learned Hand who having searched throughly into Antiquity as to this Point has given us an accurate Collection called A Demonstration that the Church of Rome and her Councils have erred by shewing that the Councils of Constance Basil and Trent have in all their Decrees touching Communion in one Kind contradicted the received Doctrine of the Church of Christ III. Of Transubstantiation Of TRANSUBSTANTIATION And now having cleared the way of all other Debates touching this Holy Sacrament we are at last arrived to the great Point in dispute betwixt us the Doctrine of Transubstantiation But how to dispose of my self in so copious a Subject and upon which so many Books have been written is hard to resolve I have already remarked what has passed on the occasion of the Discourse of Transubstantiation the first that began this Debate The next that gave occasion to the revival of this Controversie was the Author of the Dublin Letter who being answered by the Representer in his Second Part cap. 3. a learned man of our Communion made good his Party in an excellent Discourse which he calls Transubstantiation no Doctrine of the Primitive Fathers being a Defence of the Dublin Letter c. And that no pretence to Antiquity might remain unconsidered as to this matter the same Learned Hand has since obliged us with a full view of all that can reasonably be desired from the Primitive Fathers as to this matter viz. A Full Vew of the Doctrines and Practices of the Ancient Church relating to the Eucharist wholly different from those of the present Roman Church and inconsistent with the belief of Transubstantiation c. 2. A 2d sort of Discourses there have pass'd on this Argument in which our Adversaries of the Roman Communion have made it their business to prove the Doctrine of the Trinity to be as full of Contradictions as that of Transubstantiatiom But whether this be more likely to make us Papists or Socinians to believe the Doctrine of Transubstantiation or to disbelieve that of the Trinity I shall not determine However our Divines have resolved to shew that there is no manner of reason for them to do either and the Tracts that have been published on this Occasion are especially these On the Popish Part. A Dialogue between a New Catholic Convert and a Protestant concerning the Doctrines of the Trinity and Transubstantiation On Our Part. 1. An Answer to a late Dialogue between a new Catholic Convert and a Protestant c. 2. A Second Dialogue between a New Catholic Convert and a Protestant shewing why He cannot believe the Doctrine of Transubstantiation tho' he do firmly believe the Doctrine of the Trinity 3. The Doctrine of the Trinity and Transubstantiation compared as to Scripture Reason and Tradition In a new Dialogue between a Protestant and a Papist In 2. Parts 4. Transubstantiation contrary to Scripture or the Protestant's Answer to the Seeker's Request 3. Other Discourses there have been in great numbers on both sides as to this Point and it shall suffice only to transcribe the Names of them Popish Tracts concerning Transubstantiation 1. A Seeker's Request to Catholic Priests and Protestant Ministers for satisfying his Conscience in the Truth of what he ought to believe of the Lords-Supper 2. The Catholic Answer to the Seeker's Request 3. The Catholic Letter to the Seeker Protestant Treatises against Transubstantiation 1. A Plain Representation of Transubstantiation as it is received in the Church of Rome 2. The Absolute Impossibility of Transubstantiation demonstrated 3. An Historical Treatise of Transubstantiation 4. A Paraphrase with Notes and a Preface upon the 6th Chapter of St. John. 5. A Brief Discourse of the Real Presence 6. The School of the Eucharist 7. Six Conferences concerning Transubstantiation 8. The Protestant's Answer to the Seeker's Request 9. The Protestant's Answer to the Catholic Letter to the Seeker Or A Vindication of the Protestant's Answer to the Seeker's Request To which we may add two Books written indeed long since by two eminent Bishops of this Church but thought fit to be Reprinted again since Mr. W's attempts from Oxford about the Real Presence The First is 10. A Brief Declarationn of the Lord's Supper written by Dr. Nicholas Ridley Bishop of London during his Imprisonment With some Determinations and Disputations concerning the same Argument by the same Author 11. Diallacticon Viri Boni Literati c. I mention this Book Of the Notes of the Church tho a Latin one because it is a very excellent Discourse written by Dr. John Poynet Bishop of Winchester in Edward VI's days and was very rarely to be met with till this Reprinting of it SECT VI. Another Subject which has open'd a large field to Disputes between us and has accordingly been frequently insisted upon is the CHURCH with reference to the Marks and Nature and Prerogatives of it I. Of the NOTES of the Church HE must be very little acquainted with the late Methods made use of by those of the Church of Rome in propagating their Religion among us who knows not this to have been all along their great Endeavour to fly as much as possible all particular Disputes and keep themselves within the general Notions of the Church That so applying whatever is or is pretended to have been said of the Church Catholic to their own particular Communion they might more easily deceive unwary and ignorant Men. But in this too as well as in all other Points in debate they have not fail'd to meet enough to encounter their Pretences And to the End it might be better seen how vain a Pretence it is in them to call themselves Catholics and their Church the Catholic Church as if in the words of the Prophet they were alone Isa xlv 6. and there were none besides them One of the first Controversies to be remark'd in this Point is that of the NOTES of the CHVRCH and upon which they undertake to shew theirs exclusive to all others to be the Catholic Church of Christ Militant upon Earth The former part of the State
Misrepresenter still he lets fly at the Principles of his Adversary and undertakes out of his grand concern for the Protestant Interest to shew our Divines that this Gentleman was one who for all his Pretences in their behalf really endeavour'd to set up Popery in Masquerade And to this end came out a formal Piece called 3. A Letter from a Dissenter to the Divines of the Church of England in order to a Vnion But to the great surprize of this Gentleman his Adversary who it seems was as well acquainted with Henry Hill's Press as Natalis Alexander's history and by a sort of Beauties so essential to the Representer that do what he can he is not able to disguise himself presently found out what an Ass was crept into the Lyon's Skin And to let the whole World see what an honest fair dealer this Representer is he quickly gave an account of it in Print in his Answer to the Pamphlet Intituled 4. a Vindication of the Principles of the Author of the Answer to the Compiler of the Nubes Testium from the Charge of Popery In Answer to a late pretended Letter from a Dissenter to the Divines of the Church of England To this I do not know that the Representer has yet replied But in defence of his Nubes Testium we have an Answer that every way befits the Character of its Author It is call'd 5. The Primitive Fathers no Protestants Or a Vindication of Nubes Testium from the Cavils of the Answerer And that has produced us another Defence viz. 6. The Primitive Fathers no Papists In Answer to the Vindication of the Nubes Testium To which is added an Historical Discourse concerning Invocation of Saints in Answer to the Challenge of Father Lewis Sabran the Jesuit And here it was thought this Controversy would have ended till the other day the Representer peept out with his Defence of one Chapter of his Nubes Testium which I have already mentioned under this Title The Popes Supremacy Asserted To which an Answer will be shortly in the Press And here this Debate might have ended had not a short Postscript at the Close of the first Answer to the Nubes Testium engaged our Worthy Author in a new Quarrel with Father Sabran a Jesuit and who is now grown more famous in the World from his New Antagonist the Protestant Footman who as we have before observed undertook the Defence of the Reverend Master of the Temple from such pitiful Cavils as indeed were not worth the while of the Learned Man himself to take notice of and are abundantly answer'd by his new and more proper Antagonist In his Sermon before the King at Chester this Jesuit told his Majesty and the Auditory that he follow'd the advice of St. Austin when he recommended himself to the Blessed Virgins Intercession and advised them to do the same And for this quotes his Thirty-fifth Sermon de Sanctis Upon this there began a hot Debate in Letters betwixt F. Sabran and the Answerer concerning this Authority of St. Austin and at last from a particular Passage rose up to a General Point of the Practice of the Primitive Church as to the Invocation of Saints The Pieces themselves may be consulted in this Order 1. A Letter to a Peer of the Church of England clearing a Point in a Sermon Preach'd at Chester in Answer to a Postscript joyned unto the Answer to Nubes Testium 2. A Letter to Father Lewis Sabran Jesuit in Answer to his Letter to a Peer of the Church of England c. 3. A Reply of Lewis Sabrand of the Society of Jesus to the Answer given to his Letter written to a Peer of the Church of England c. 4. A Second Letter to Father Lewis Sabran Jesuit in Answer to his Reply And here the Controversy about St. Austin's Sermon was either ended or dropt the Jesuit being now ferretted by the Second Letter out of all his starting holes But Mr. G. in his Primitive Fathers no Papists taking into Consideration a Challenge which the Jesuit had made him in one of his Letters about Invocation published an Historical Discourse to prove that Invocation of Saints was neither the Doctrine nor the Practice of the Primitive Fathers Upon this the Jesuit begun again after having taken a little breath and in a whole Sheet undertakes to answer that large Historical Account with this Title 5. The Challenge of Father Lewis Sabran made out against the Historical Discourse concerning Invocation of Saints To which Mr. G. very soon after replied in 6. A Third Letter to Father Lewis Sabrah Jesuit Wherein the Defence of his Challenge concerning Invocation of Saints is Examin'd and Confuted In this Letter Mr. G. made such Discoveries of the strange Disingenuity and confident Ignorance of the Jesuit that he was resolved to rid his Hands of such an Adversary as had neither Learning nor Good-manners and therefore told him in the Conclusion of his Letter that he would trouble himself no more with answering such an Adversary Upon this the Jesuit whose only stock is Confidence being turn'd off by his Learned Adversary was forc'd to address his next Reply to a Third Person and pitcht upon Mr. Needham because he had Licensed Mr. G's Third Letter to him and directed a Letter to him with this Title 7. A Letter to Dr. William Needham In Answer to the Third Letter by him Licensed Written to Father Lewis Sabran of the Society of Jesus To which Mr. G. did finally Reply in an Address to the Jesuit's Superiors and this it 's supposed will end this Controversy it is call'd 8. A Letter to the Superiors whether Bishops or Priests which approve or License the Popish Books in England particularly to those of the Jesuits Order concerning Lewis Sabrah a Jesuit And all these Engagements the first Answer to the Nubes Testium produced But tho we now quit our Author yet we must not therefore leave the Subject For about the same time that the former Answer appeared another Learned Person of our Church began to consider it by Parts in several Letters to a Person of Quality And the Account of which I will now give as far as the Pieces are come to my Knowledg The first that appeared was called 1. The Antiquity of the Protestant Religion With an Answer to Mr. Sclater 's Reasons and the Collections made by the Author of the Pamphlet intituled Nubes Testium In a Letter to a Person of Quality The first Part. The next he Entituled 2. The Antiquity of the Protestant Religion concerning Images With an Answer to the Collections made by the Author of the Pamphlet Intituled Nubes Testium In a Letter to a Person of Quality The 2d Part. What Notice has been taken of the former of these I am not able to say but the latter has produced us an Answer Entituled 3. A Discourse of the Use of Images in relation to the Church of England and the Church of Rome in Vindication