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Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
religion_n	aaron_n	moses_n	separate_v	20	3	11.7297	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A57693	Catholick charitie complaining and maintaining, that Rome is uncharitable to sundry eminent parts of the Catholick Church, and especially to Protestants, and is therefore Uncatholick : and so, a Romish book, called Charitie mistaken, though undertaken by a second, is it selfe a mistaking / by F. Rous.	Rous, Francis, 1579-1659.	1641 (1641)	Wing R2017; ESTC R14076	205,332	412

the Church which is the Cavaliers point to be proved by this place for he denyeth many doctrines and fundamentall ones of the Law and the Prophets yea of God himselfe The next place doth much accuse the Cavaliers need of Allegations and yet withall excuseth him not from an indeavour to deceive his Reader The place alledged by him is this Quod apud multos c. That which is found to be one amongst so many is not to be thought to have crept in by errour but to have beene commended by Tradition The place cited is this Quod apud multos unum invenitur non est erratum sed traditum That which is one among so many is not an errour but a thing delivered The question in hand was concerning the rule of Faith or the Creed as the Reader may see by comparing the thirteenth chapter where the Creed is rehearsed and the end of the one and twentieth where he saith That it remained for him to shew whether the doctrine in the former rule came from the delivery or if you will Tradition so it bee not a Tradition beyond that which is written for there is no such in this rule of faith of the Apostles And having refuted these objections That the Apostles delivered not all and that they knew not all he comes after to this objection That the ●hurches did not purely reteine what the Apostles delivered and thus hee refells this objection Age nunc omnes erraverint deceptus sit Apostolus de Testimonio reddendo Nullam respexerit Spiritus sanctus uti eam in veritatem deduceret ad hoc missus à Christo ad hoc postulatus de Patre ut esset doctor veritatis neglexerit officium Dei Villicus Christi vicarius sinens Ecclesias aliter interim intelligere aliter credere quod ipse p●r Apostolos praedicabat Ecquid verisimile est ut tot ac tan●a in unam Fidem erraverint Nullus inter multos eventus est u●us exitus Var●asse debuerat error doctrinae Ecclesiarum ●aeterùm quod apud multos unum invenitur non est erratum sed traditum Whereof the summe is this that though the Holy Ghost the Vicar of Christ had not looked to his office of leading the Church into truth yet there is no likelihood that so many Churches had erred into one Faith But the Faith wherein there is such unity among many should not be an errour but a Truth delivered by the Apostles Now this place is so far from saying that all Churches agreed in sin all points beyond and besides the Creed that it speaks onely of their agreement in the rules of Faith and doctrine of the Creed And he saith that such an agreement comes not by errour which commonly is divers but by one uniforme delivery and doctrine of the Apostles So the Cavalier is still to seeke for a necessary unity in every smal doctrine and in points without the Creed Cyrill is mainly for the Protestants even as himselfe alledgeth him For we agreeably affirme That to be the Catholick Church which teacheth without defect all things necessary to salvation And in the doctrine of faith such things necessary to salvation are points fundamentall Cyprian comes or is rather drawne in next against his will and meaning and thus the Author produceth him The Church being stricken through by the light of our Lord doth send her beames throughout the whole world But yet that light which is cast so far abroad is but one and the same Shee spreads her branches over the whole earth after a plentifull manner Shee extends her flowing streames with great aboundance and to a great distance But yet is Shee one Head and one Root and one Mother who is fruitfull by such store of issue Now I thinke it were needlesse to help a Reader to take this place from the Author For it is plaine to every eye that this place speakes not of the unity of the Church in all points of doctrine but of their unity in one Love and one mysticall Body So that this place is not onely unserviceable to the Author but serves much against him and his lady Mother who cuts off noble and excellent members of the Church from her or rather her selfe from the Church if they doe not submit to her universall Tyranny Cyprian it seemes hath not said enough and therefore he must say more but indeed lesse Let us see how the Cavalier rather teacheth him then suffereth him to speake The same S. also speaking of the sin of Core Dathan and Abiram implies that the one Church must not onely be entirely beleeved but followed also in all her doctrines and directions For hee saith that though Core Dathan and Abiram did beleeve and worship one God and lived in the same Law and Religion with Moses and Aaron yet because they divided themselves from the rest by Schisme resisting their Governours and Priests they were swallowed up quick into Hell Here first wee may observe how hee tells his Reader what hee would have Cyprian say for hee saith not that Cyprian doth speake it plainely but the S. implyes and what doth he imply That the Church must not onely bee intirely beleeved but followed also in all her doctrines and directions But did Core Dathan and Abiram differ from Moses and Aaron in doctrine His owne place denyes it which saith They did beleeve and worship one God and lived in Moses his Law and Religion with Moses and Aaron And the place further assignes the true fault Division by Schisme They denyed the authority of those whom God had placed to be Governours over them Just the same sinne into which Pope Pius the fifth drew the English Papists by his Bull so that this place makes exceedingly against Romish doctrine of rebellion against Princes such as those of the North and in Ireland But let me give the Author one question at parting Was Aaron to bee followed in all his doctrines and directions what doth the Author think of this doctrine concerning the Calfe These be thy Gods O Israel which brought thee up out of the Land of Egypt Saint Basill is next produced thus speaking in Theod. They who are well instructed in holy writ permit not one syllable of divine doctrine to be betrayed or yeelded up but are willing to embrace any kinde of death for the defence thereof if need require Hereupon the Author thus commenteth That man of God had beene sollicited by some to relent for a time to yeeld though it were but to a little he refused in such sort as you have seene and he did it with much disdaine to be attempted in that kinde Now let the Reader see here the fairenesse of our Author Hee speakes of Basils not yeelding to a little and what was this little Denying the sonne of God to be God of one substance with the Father Is this a little Surely he should be a great Hereticke that should deny

Wherein a vaine boast of the Romists confidence in maintaining their Religion by Excommunications is confuted And an inconsiderate charge That treason is pretended against Papists Priests in this Realme because wee dare not avow the punishing them for heresie is retorted BUt I wonder no lesse that this Cavalier should withall boast of his Catholicke Church That shee is so farre from obliging a man that beleeves not in his heart as shee teacheth under pecuniary mulcts to repaire to her Service and Sacraments that she will by no meanes admit him thereunto till hee have first cleared himselfe of that suspicion and sufficiently shewed himselfe free from any such want of beliefe For first what kind of converts are those whom Rome from whatsoever heresie converteth by the Faggot and admits to her Sacraments And is there not very just cause to suspect that they beleeve not from the heart all that she teacheth or at least doe not sufficiently shew themselves free from any such want of beliefe when they are turned to their new faith onely by such woodden arguments Secondly it seemes this Authours Catholicke Church is not the same Catholicke Church whereof Optatus and Saint Austin were members For Catholickes of that Church did compell men to Church by penalties that did not altogether beleeve in their heart as the Church taught And wee know the Churches intent is to bring them to heare and by hearing to beleeve what shee teacheth and so to fit them for the Sacraments Thirdly Bellarmine himselfe confesseth that the Church hath used such meanes for the reducing of Heretickes and in the very terms which the Authour denieth Pecuniary mul●ts And whereas our Authour eftsoones speakes of Ostiarii set to keep out men of contrary beliefe what knowne Protestant in France is hindered or at least how commonly are they admitted by the imaginary Ostiarii to bee present at the Masse And in the Archdukes Court Protestants have come to the Masse and known to bee such by most notorious Papists though they came in only to see the acting of it Secondly what Ostiarii did put off Catharinus for holding contrary to Trent That a man by faith may bee sure of his salvation Or Cajetan for holding That infants dying without Baptisme might be saved Who puts off the French that hold the Councell to be above the Pope a point of faith much differing from the present faith of Rome That which followeth I thinke at the first reading may appeare to bee the meere swelling of one that hath drunke the poysoned cup in the hand of the Scarlet Lady This Church enriched and endowed with the holy Ghost proceeds like a body which knowes it selfe to belong to an omnipotent head and feares not to avow both what it saith and what it doth And as on the one side shee expresses all the suavity which can bee conceived and is most ready to wrap up the most enormious sinners of the world and the most mortall enemies which shee hath in the very bowels of her compassion if they will come to God in the way of Penance For can the Reader keep himselfe from laughter when he seeth the lofty description of this Romish fortitude and withall seeth the low pusillanimity and meannesse of the Pope taking in an Excommunication denounced against the State of Venice without penance and satisfaction and so neither avowing what it saith nor what it doth to the plain disavowing of that which this Cavalier saith Againe doth not this Church proceed much rather like a body ruled with a head possest not with a seventh vertue but with many of the seven deadly sinnes whereof a great one is Covetousnesse For doe wee not reade that which may make a modest Romist to blush when hee reades it when the Popes owne souldiers and servants fight for his supremacy a principall point of their forged and fictitious faith he by mony hath been brought from avowing what hee said for those servants and their services It followes Shee goes on so farre if shee see cause to separate them in the quality of Heretickes from her communion and proceeds not against them as against Traytors to Princes or States according to that poore shift of Protestants whose guilty consciences make them not dare though their hearts bee well bent that way to punish our Priests capitally as for a corrupt Religion but they set upon them false and impudent pretexts of Treason First We acknowledge that the Pope doth outgoe this Authour with his Excommunication for hee goes on so farre not onely when hee sees cause but when hee sees no cause to separate from his Communion even without any proofe of heresie for what cause was there seene of excommunicating the King of Navarre out of his Kingdome in the quality of an heretick who was taken for a Romist especially since it is recorded that the King of Spaine's conscience in his death-bed was not satisfied with the Pope's eye-sight of the cause but spake as seeing cause of Restitution where the Pope pretended cause of Excommunication And what cause had the Venetians given of Excommunication when their Restitution without penance shewes plainely that they were without cause excommunicated And what cause had the Pope for excommunicating Queene Elisabeth and giving away her Kingdome And whereas you say Shee proceeds not against them as against Traytors to Princes or States This is so true that I cannot confute it But to make your truth yet more true I must also add this That your Papacy proceeds against Protestants because they will not bee Traytors to Princes or States as appeares by the penance of the Irish Pilgrime formerly mentioned and by the Bull of Pius quintus where hee curseth and excommunicateth those subjects that will not bee Traytors to their Soveraigne And indeed by that Bull the Papists themselves were exceedingly troubled betweene two feares one of being tyed with the cords of this excommunication for want of Treason and another of being tyed up for Treason in obeying this Excommunication Which griefe with the remedy thereof I finde thus described by Master Hart a not unlearned Romist The Bull of Pius quintus for so much of it as is against the Queene is holden among the English Catholicks for a lawfull sentence and a sufficient discharge of her subjects fidelity and so remaines in force but in some points touching the Subjects it is altered by the present Pope For where in that Bull all her subjects are commanded not to obey her and shee being excommunicated and deposed all that doe obey her are likewise innodate and accursed which point is perillous to the Catholicks for if they obey her they bee in the Popes curse and if they disobey her they are in the Queenes danger therefore the present Pope to releeve them hath altered that part of the Bull and dispensed with them to obey and serve her without perill of Excommunication which Dispensation is to endure but till it please