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A04459 An apologie or answere in defence of the Churche of Englande with a briefe and plaine declaration of the true religion professed and vsed in the same.; Apologia Ecclesiae Anglicanae. English Jewel, John, 1522-1571.; Bacon, Anne Cooke, Lady, 1528?-1610.; Parker, Matthew, 1504-1575. 1564 (1564) STC 14591; ESTC S101072 92,781 278

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sit at home and leaue our whole cause to Gode then to iorney thither whereas wee neyther shall haue place nor bee able to dooe anye good whereas wee can obtaine no audience whereas Princes Embassadours be but used as mockyng stockes and whereas also all wee be condemned alredy before trial as though y e matter were a forhād dispatched and agreed vpon Neuertheles we can beare pacientlye quyetely our owne priuate wronges but wherfore do they shut out Christian kynges and good Princes from their Conuocation why do they so vncourteously or with such spite leaue thē out as though they were not either Christen menne or els could not iudge will not haue them made acquaynted with the cause of Christian Religion nor vnderstand y e state of their own Churches Or yf the sayd kynges Princes happen to entermedly in suche matters and take vpon them to do that they may do that they be commaunded to doe and ought of duty to do the same thinges that we know both Dauid and Salomon and other good Princes haue don that is yf they whiles the Pope and his Prelates slugge and sleepe or els mischevouslye withstande them doe bridle the Preistes sensualitie and driue them to do their dewty and kepe them still to yt yf they do ouerthrow Idols yf they take away superstition and set vp again the true worshiping of God whye do they by and by make an out crye vpon them that suche Princes trouble all and presse by violence into an other bodyes office and do therby wickedly and malepartly What scripture hath at any time forbidden a Christiā Prince to be made priuey to such causes Who but themselues alone made euer any suche lawe They will saye to this I gesse Ciuell Princes haue learned to gouerne a common welth and to ordre matters of warre but they vnderstande not the secret mysteries of Religion Yf that be so what is the Pope I praye you at this day other thē a Monarche or a Prince or what ●e the Cardinals who must be no nother now a days but Princes and kyngs sonnes What els be y e Patriarches and for the most part the Archebysshops the Byshops y e Abbots what be they els at this present in y e Popes kingdome but worlikely Princes but Dukes and Earles gorgiously accompanied w t bandes of men whither soeuer they go Oftentimes also gaylye arayed wyth theynes collers of golde They haue at times to certeine ornamētes by them selfes as Crosses pillers hattes miters and Palles which pompe the auncient Bysshops Chrysostom Augustine and Ambrose neuer had Setting these thinges aside what teache they what say they what doe they how lyue they I saye not as maye become a Byshopp but as may become euen a Christian man Is it so great a mater to haue a vaine title and by chaunging a garment onely to haue the name of a Byshop Surely to haue the principall staye effecte of all maters commited wholy to these mennes hands who neyther know nor will know these thinges nor yet set a iote by any poinct of Religion saue y t which concernes their belly and Ryot to haue them alone sit as Iudges and to be set vp as ouerseers in y e watch tower being no better then blynd spyes of the other side to haue a Christian Prince of good vnderstanding and of a right iudgement to stande still like a blocke or a stake not to be suffred nother to giue his voice nor to shewe his iudgement but onely to wayt what these men shall well and commaund as one whiche had neyther eares nor eyes nor wytt nor hearte and whatsoeuer they giue in charge to alowe it without exception blindly fulfilling their commaundementes be they neuer so blasphemous and wicked yea although they commaunde him quite to destroye all Religion to crucifie again Christ him selfe This surely besides that it is proud and spitefull ys also beyond all right and reason and not to be endured of Christiā and wyse Princes Why I praye you may Cayphas and Annas vnderstand these matters and may not Dauid and Ezechias do the same Is it laufull for a Cardinall being a man of warre and delightius in bloud to haue place in a Councell is it not lauful for a Christian Emperour or a kynge wee truely graunt no further libertie to our Magistrates then that we know hath both ben giuen thē by the word of God and also confirmed by the exāples of the very best gouerned cōmon welthes For besids that a Christian Prince hath the charge of both Tables cōmited to him by God to thende he maye vnderstande that not temporall matters only but also Religious ecclesiasticall causes pertaine to his Office Besides also that God by his Prophettes often and earnestly cōmaundeth the king to cut down the groues to breake downe the Images and aultres of Idoles and to write out the boke of y e law for him selfe and besides that the prophet Esaias saith a kyng ought to be a patrone and nurse of the Churche I saye besides all these thinges we se by histories and by examples of the best tunes that good Princes euer tooke thadministration of ecclesiastical matters to partain to their duety Moses a Ciuile Magistrat chief guide of the people both receiued from God deliuered to y e People al the order for religion and Sacrifices and gaue Aaron the Byshop a vehemēt and so are rebuke for making the golden calfe and for suffering the corruption of Religion Iosua also though he were no nother then a Ciuil Magistrat yet assone as he was chosen by God and set as a Ruler ouer the people he receiued cōmaundements specially touching Religion and the seruice of God Kynge Dauid when the whole religiō was altogethers brought out of frame by wycked kyng Saul brought home againe the Arke of God that is to say he restored Religiō again and was not onely amongest them him selfe as a counseller and furtherer of the worke but he appoincted also hymnes and Psalmes put in order the companies and was the only doer in setting furth that whole solemne shewe and in effect ruled the preistes Kyng Salomō builte vnto the Lord the Temple which his Father Dauid had but purposed in his minde to do after the finishing ther of he made a goodly oration to the people concerning Religion and the seruice of God he afterward displaced Abiathar the Preist and set Sadock in his place After this when the Tēple of God was in shameful wyse polluted thorough the uaughtines and negligēce of the preists Kyng Ezechias commaunded the same to be clensed from the ruble and filthe y e preistes to light vp candelles to burne Incense and to do their diuine seruice according to the olde allowed custome The same kyng also commaunded the brasen Serpent whiche then the people wickedly worshipped to be taken down and beatē to pouder Kyng Iehosaphat ouerthrew
lyes what yf y e same Prophete saye in an other place that the selfe same menne who ought to be kepers of the vineyarde haue brought to naught and destroyed the Lordes vynearde How yf Christ saye that the same persones who chiefely ought to haue a care ouer the Temple haue made of y e Lords Temple a denne of Theues Yf it be so that the Churche of Rome cannot erre it must nedes folowe that the good lucke therof is farre greater then al these mennes policie For suche is their lyfe their doctrine and their diligence that for all them the Churche may not onely erre but also vtterly be spoyled and peryshe No doubt yf that Churche maye erre whiche hath departed from Godds worde from Christes commaundementes from the Apostls ordinaunces from the primatiue Churches examples from the old Fathers and Councelles orders and from their own Decrees and which wil be bound w t in the compasse of none neither oulde nor new nor their owne nor other folkes nor mannes lawe nor Goddes law then yt is out of all question that the Ro●yshe Churche hath not onely had power to erre but that it hath shamefully and most wickedly erred in very deed But say they ye haue ben once of our felowship but now ye are become forsakers of your profession and haue departed from vs. It is trew we haue departed from them and for so doing we both giue thankes to almightie God great lye reioyce on our owne behalfe But yet for all this from the primatiue Church from the Apostles and from Christ wee haue not departed true it is We were brought vp with these menne in darkenes and in y e lack of knowledge of God as Moses was taught vp in the learning and the bosome of the Egyptians We haue ben of youre company saith Tertullian I confesse it and no maruaile at all for saith he menne be made and not borne Christians But wherefore I pray you haue they them selfe the citizens and dweliers of Rome remoued and come downe from those seauen hilles whervpon Rome sometime stood to dwel rather in the plaine called Mars his field They wil say peraduenture by cause the conductes of water wher with out menne cannot commodiouslye liue haue now failed and ar dried vp in those hilles Well then lett them giue vs lyke leaue inseeking the water of eternal lyfe that they giue them selfes in seekyng the water of the well for the water verely fayled amongest them Thelders of the Iewes sayth Ieremye sent their litle ones to the waterings and they finding no water beyng in a miserable case and vtterly marred for thurst brought home againe their vessells emptie The nedye poore folke saith Esaye sought about for water but no wheare founde they any their tonge was euē withered with thirst Euen so these menne haue broken in peeces al the pypes and cōduites they haue stopped vp al the springs choked vp the fountaine of liuyng water with durte and myre And as Caligula many yeres past locked fast vp al the storehouses of corne in Rome thereby brought a generall derth and famyne amongest the people euē so these men by damming vp all the fountaines of Goddes word haue brought the people into a peetiful thirst They haue brought into y e world as saith the Prophete Amos a hungre and a thurst not the hunger of breade nor the thurst of water but of hearing the worde of God With greate distresse went they scattering about seeking some sparke of heauenly light to refresh their consciences withall but that light was alredy thoroughly quenched out so that they could finde none This was a rueful state This was a lamentable forme of Goddes Churche It was a miserie to liue therin without the Gospel without light and without all comfort Wherfore though our departing wer a trouble to them yet ought they to consider withall how iust cause wee had of our departure For yf they wil saye it is in no wise lawfull for one to leaue the felowship wherein he hath bē brought vp they maye aswell in our names or vpon our heades condemne both the Prophetes the Apostles and Christ him selfe For whye complayne they not also of this that Lot went quitte his way out of Sodome Abraham out of Calde the Israelites out of Egypte Christ frō the Iewes and Paule from the Pharisees For except it be possible there maye be a lawful cause of departing we see no reasone whye Lot Abraham the Israelites Christ and Paule may not be accused of sectes and seditiō aswel as others And yf● these men will needes condemne vs for Heretiques bycause we do not all thinges at their commaūdement whom in gods name or what kynde of menne ought they them selues to be taken for whiche despise the commaundement of Christ of the Apostles If we be scismatiques bycause we haue lefte them by what name shall they be called themselues which haue forsaken the Grekes frō whom they first receiued their faith forsaken the primatiue Church forsaken Christ hymselfe and the Apostls euen as Children should forsake their parentes For though those Grekes who at this daye professe religion and Christes name haue many thinges corrupted amōgest them yet houlde they still a greate numbre of those thinges whiche they receiued from the Apostles They haue neyther priuate Masses nor mangled Sacramentes nor Purgatories nor Pardons And as for the titles of hygh Byshops those glorious names they estime them so as whosoeuer he were that woulde take vpon hym the same woulde be called eyther Vniuersall bysshop or the Hed of the vniuersal church they make no doubt to call suche a one both a passing proude man a man that worketh despite against all y ● other Bysshoppes his bretherne and a plaine Heretique Now then synce it is manifest and out of all peraduenture that these men are fallen from y ● Grekes of whom they receiued the Gospell of whome they receiued the faith the true Religion and y e Church what is y e mater why they will not now be called home again to y e same men as it were to their originals first founders And whye be they afraide to take a paterne of the Apostles and olde Fathers tymes as though they all had ben voyde of vnderstanding Do these menne wene ye see more or set more by the Church of God then they dede who firste deliuered vs these thinges We truely haue renounced that church wherin we could neyther haue y e worde of God sincerely taught nor the Sacraments rightlye administred nor the name of God dewly called vppon whyche Churche also themselues confesse to be faulty in many poin●tes And wherein was nothing able to stay any wise mā or one y t hath consideration of his owne lavetie To conclud wee haue forsaken the Church as it is now not as it was in olde time and haue so gon from it as Daniell went out of the Lyons denne and y e three Children out