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A15130 The defense of the aunsvvere to the Admonition against the replie of T.C. By Iohn VVhitgift Doctor of Diuinitie. In the beginning are added these. 4. tables. 1 Of dangerous doctrines in the replie. 2 Of falsifications and vntruthes. 3 Of matters handled at large. 4 A table generall. Whitgift, John, 1530?-1604. 1574 (1574) STC 25430; ESTC S122027 1,252,474 846

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recite_v io._n whitgifte_n james_n be_v bishop_n of_o jerusalem_n and_o in_o authority_n above_o all_o other_o minister_n there_o 23._o bishop_n at_o jerusalem_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n eusebius_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 23._o eusebius_n so_o report_v of_o he_o out_o of_o egesippus_fw-la who_o live_v immediate_o after_o y_o e_o apostles_n time_n his_o word_n out_o of_o egesippus_fw-la be_v these_o ecclesiam_fw-la gubernandam_fw-la post_fw-la apostolos_fw-la jacobus_n frater_fw-la domini_fw-la accepit_fw-la james_n the_o brother_n of_o the_o lord_n have_v the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n after_o the_o apostle_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 23._o and_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o that_o chapter_n eusebius_n speak_v of_o this_o james_n say_v thus_o cui_fw-la hierosolymis_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n episcopalis_fw-la sedes_fw-la concredita_fw-la fuerat_fw-la to_o who_o the_o bishops_n seat_n at_o jerusalem_n be_v commit_v by_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o first_o chapter_n of_o that_o book_n he_o 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that_o doubt_v chap._n 2._o the._n 10._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 107._o sect._n 2._o in_o the_o collect_v upon_o the_o twelve_o sunday_n after_o trinity_n sunday_n and_o likewise_o in_o one_o of_o those_o which_o be_v to_o be_v say_v after_o the_o offertory_n as_o it_o be_v term_v be_v do_v request_n be_v make_v that_o god_n will_v give_v those_o thing_n which_o we_o for_o our_o unworthynesse_n be_v not_o ask_v for_o it_o carry_v with_o it_o still_o the_o note_n of_o the_o popy_n she_o servile_a fear_n and_o savour_v not_o of_o that_o confidence_n and_o reverend_a fam_fw-la liaritie_n that_o the_o child_n of_o god_n have_v through_o christ_n with_o their_o heavenly_a father_n for_o as_o we_o dare_v not_o without_o our_o saviour_n christ_n ask_v so_o much_o as_o a_o crumb_n of_o bread_n so_o there_o be_v nothing_o which_o in_o his_o name_n we_o be_v not_o ask_v be_v needful_a for_o we_o and_o if_o it_o be_v not_o needful_a why_o shall_v we_o ask_v it_o io._n whitgifte_n i_o pray_v 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pag._n 144._o lin._n 26._o &_o sect._n 1._o 2._o it_o be_v true_a that_o we_o ought_v to_o be_v obedient_a unto_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n which_o govern_v the_o church_n of_o god_n in_o that_o office_n which_o be_v commit_v unto_o he_o and_o according_a to_o that_o call_n but_o it_o must_v be_v remember_v that_o 〈◊〉_d magistrate_n must_v govern_v it_o according_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o god_n prescribe_v in_o his_o word_n and_o that_o as_o they_o be_v nourise_n so_o they_o be_v servant_n unto_o the_o church_n and_o as_o they_o rule_v in_o the_o church_n so_o they_o must_v remember_v to_o subject_v themselves_o unto_o the_o church_n to_o submit_v their_o sceptre_n to_o throw_v down_o their_o crown_n before_o the_o church_n yea_o as_o the_o prophet_n speak_v to_o lick_v 49._o esay_n 49._o the_o dust_n of_o the_o foot_n of_o the_o church_n wherein_o i_o mean_v not_o that_o the_o church_n do_v either_o wring_v the_o sceptre_n out_o of_o prince_n hand_n or_o take_v their_o crown_n from_o their_o head_n or_o that_o it_o require_v prince_n to_o lick_v the_o dust_n of_o her_o foot_n as_o the_o pope_n under_o this_o pretence_n have_v do_v but_o i_o mean_v as_o the_o prophet_n mean_v that_o what_o soever_o magnificence_n or_o excellency_n or_o pomp_n be_v either_o in_o they_o or_o in_o their_o estate_n and_o common_a wealth_n which_o do_v not_o agree_v with_o the_o simplicity_n and_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o world_n poor_a and_o contemptible_a estate_n of_o the_o church_n that_o that_o they_o will_v be_v content_a to_o lay_v down_o and_o here_o come_v to_o my_o mind_n that_o wherewith_o the_o world_n be_v now_o dec_fw-la ive_v and_o wherewith_o m._n doctor_n go_v about_o both_o to_o deceyve_v himself_o &_o other_o too_o in_o that_o he_o think_v that_o the_o church_n must_v be_v frame_v according_a to_o the_o common_a wealth_n and_o the_o church_n government_n according_a to_o the_o vill_a government_n doctrine_n government_n a_o dangerous_a doctrine_n which_o be_v 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