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A10838	A manumission to a manuduction, or Answer to a letter inferring publique communion in the parrish assemblies upon private with godly persons there. By Iohn Robinson; Unreasonablenesse of the separation	Robinson, John, 1575?-1625.	1615 (1615)	STC 21111; ESTC S106681	22,876	24

external spiritual power of ability or freedom to minister them of this power we speak as being that which the Bishops as the spirituall governers of theyr Prov Dioc do confer I know a man may be restreyned by viol●nce or other bodily impediment from the vse of this spirituall freedom but then he is restreyned from the vse of his power of right also Whosoever hath the one hath the other by the same act whosoever hath a lawfull calling hath both Of his great mistakeing vpon which notwithstanding he builds the weight of his answer both in this the former parte of the book which is that the Bishops Provinciall Diocesan authority administrations are civile derived from the king I shall speak hereafter He ads that it cannot stand with my plea that such a man preaching diligently professing that to be his mayn office should in this work be a branch of the prelacy d●●t by his power receaved by him For. 1. this is not any parte of the prelates power as he is a prelate to preach the word Which he also would prove by an affirmation in my book which is though he weaken the evidence of the truth thereof in relateing it that the prelates office and order is founded vppon theyr usurpation of the rights and libertyes wherewith Christ the Lord in his word hath endowed his Church the Elders for theyr government and the people for theyr liberty for the calling of officers censureing of offenders Power therefore sayth he of preaching can be no parte of it First that which he admits in myne affirmation hath enough in it to overthrow his consequence For if it belong to the prelates to call ministers that in calling them they give them power authority though no absolute charge to preach according to the order of that Church then followeth it vndeniably that those ministers thus preaching do therein excercise the prela●es power that it may be sayd of the ministers and Bishops as Christ sayd of his disciples himself that whosoever receaves them which are sent receaves them which send them In submitting vnto or withdrawing from him that is sent by the king in a work of his office men do submit vnto or withdraw from the king himself his authority so is it in all estates subordinations whether Ecclesiasticall or civile as every one that dimms it not in himself may see by the light of nature And if vnto this be added that as the whole nation is devided into two provinces vnder the two Arch-Bishops and the Provinces into ●●ndry ●●o●eses vnder the Bishops and they into theyr severall parrishes vnder the ministers thereof so the Arch-Bishops and Bishops do share out vnto the parrish preistes in theyr ordination other assignementes a parts of theyr charge to wit so much as concerns the ordinary service of the parrish as vnto theyr chancelours commissaryes and Arch-deccors on other parts for inferiour government reserveirg to themselves the Lordship ever both for the best advantage of theyr own honour and profit it will then evidently appear as that the part is a branch of the whole that the parochial ministery is a branch of the di●●es●n provinciall p●●lacy By which ministery we are not to vnderstand as doth myne opposite the work of preaching or any other work whatsoever but the office power exequuted vsed in these works For if we will exactly weigh things in a just ballance we must consider of these three distinct poynts in the ministery 1. The office 2. The power 3. The workes The office is the very state function conferred vpon a man by his calling from which office ariseth immediately power charge to minister and to perform the workes of that office in the performance of which workes the office is exequuted and power vsed And if preaching diligently faythful●y were the pastours mayn office then should Apostles Prophets Evangelists have the same mayn office with pastours for they all do that work of diligent preaching one as we ●as an other besides that this work is lawfully performed by him that hath no office at all therefore cannot be the Pastours office mayn or mean 2ly It followeth not because the office of the prelates is founded vppon theyr vsurpation of the Churches rights in calling of officers consureing of ●fferders● that therefore power of preaching is no parte of theyr office Men may by theyr office have power to do more then the very things vppon which theyr office is founded otherwise the parochiall ministery should be very slightily founded considering how many trifles and superstitions the ministers have not onely power but charge also to perform By this mans reasoning theyr office should be founded vppō the wearing of a surplice makeing a crosse c. for these they have power to do yea not power to leav vndone by theyr office There are among men many lawfull offices or orders those lawfully founded and yet not so perfitly but that some evil actions are through humayn fraylty done in by them so on the contrary is the office of prelacy vnlawfull vnlawfully founded and yet not so absolutely but that the good work of preaching may be and is performed in and by it Which preaching being also an inferiour work of that office and order which is principally set vp for government and that wherwith the Bishops do litle trouble the Churches it ma● well be excluded frō the foundation of theyr office though a work thereof as there are also many doctrines of Christian religion besydes those which are properly called the foundations thereof though a work good in it self yet in the extent of theyr power to preach when and where they list in theyr provinces and diocesses exorbitant and antichristian so a parte of theyr usurpation whether of the foundation or building it matters not a parte of which power they also share out vnto the ministers in theyr severall parrishes An other argument he bring vpō an affirmatiō in my book p. 29 that preaching is no natural or necessary parte of the parochiall ministers office This myne assertion in the first place he reprocheth as an intemperate speach proceeding from an impotent sicknes of mynde which yet sayth he may be vsed agaynst my selfe If I were sick of any such impotency of mynde as he in his potency of mynde pronounceth I should surely fynde him a phisition of no value which brings no other medicine then a reproch to cure me withall Onely he insinuates a reason agaynst that I say which is that preaching the word is expresly mentioned in the ministers ordination And is it not also mentioned in the ordination of a Mas-preist of whose office notwithstanding it is no necessary or naturall parte yea is it not evident that one and the same ordination serves both for a Mas-preist parochiall minister being given by a popish Byshop and so

by consequence that there is one the same office of both though exercised in some different workes So also is ministring the disciplyne of Christ as the Lord hath commaunded expresly mentioned in his ordination is it therefore a necessary work of the Parochiall minister or is he any more then the Bishops mans man in publishing his court censure The Bishop also expresly bids his ordeyned one Receav the H Ghost Doth he therefore so receav it Or know we not that it is Antichrists guise and that not a litle advantageable to the mistery of his iniquity to keep the formes of good wordes without the substance of things so vnder the name of Christ to subvert Christs truth and ordinances I would to God the notorious ignorance and vtter inability to preach the gospell in the greatest parte by farr of the parochiall ministers to the destruction of so many 1000 soules for which Christ dyed did not cry out vnto God and men agaynst both that Church Prelacy and ministery that preaching is no necessary parte or work of theyr office There is but one order or office of preisthood in that church how can that be a naturall or necessary parte of that office which the most of those officers want this especially being by the constant practise of the puqlique governers according to the constitution and state of that Church ministery and government the publique lawes thereof also both ecclesiasticall and civile approveing it as otherwise so by appoynting homilyes to be read by such as are vnable to preach Such a one the patron may present for his Cl●rk to any parishonall charge and may also compell the Bishop will he ●ill he to institute him by processe of law whom the people also are bound to receav as theyr minister with him to communicate vnder penaltyes civil and spirituall Let Baal then plead for himself even the wearing of a surplice and signeing a babes forehead with the crosse are more naturall and necessary to the parochiall ministery considered both in the common practise and publique lawes then is preaching of the gospell For inability to preach though most ordinary no minister is or can be deposed but for not conforming how many in a few years Myne affirmation then how licenciously soever myne opposite censureth both it me is so apparē●tly true as it cannot be denyed without losse of credit both to the person cause of the denyer in the eyes of all reasonable men Vppon which affirmation of myne his inference notwithstanding is of no force viz. that such ministers as give themselves to preaching do not in that buesines excercise any power receaved from the prelate as a branch of him because that power must then have been a naturall parte of his office It followeth not For as some partes or workes of the parochiall ministers office are naturall and necessary as to read divine service c. so are other workes or partes thereof but casuall arbytrary as is this of preaching as the person can or will It is not by any absolute necessity required of every minister to preach but yet he that doth preach doth it by authority of the prelate in his parrish as in a parte of the prelates province or Diocesse And where he speaks of the ministers not excercis●ing the power receaved from the prelate in that buesines of preaching it is as a poore shift so a vayn insinuation that though in other buesinesses he did excercise the prelates power yet not in that of preaching Wheras he both preacheth readeth divine service doth whatsoever he doth publickly by one the same ecclesiastic power office He is not one officer in the desk another in the pulpit though his works be divers ●ut the B ps minister in both He ads as opposite to an affirmation of myne pag 30. that though the prelacy were pluck●d vp yet the parochiall ministery might stand still as reason he sayth but shewes none will teach and experience sheweth in Denmark Saxony H●ssia other partes of Germany But wherefore doth he lead me to Churches so far off whose estate I neyther can easily know nor he happily justify Why doth he not rayther insist in the better both known reformed churches in the low coūtries I perceav if I follow him in his Manuductiō he wil lead me cōpasse enough Well I deny marvell he would affirm that the same parochiall office and power of ministery doth remayn in those Churches which was in vse before the extirpation of the prelacy there The office it self was the order of Mas-preisthood the power derived from the Pope popeish prelacy That the works of preaching and prayer performed by many of the parochiall ministers and also by some of the Masse-preists may remayn though the prelacy be taken away with it the parochiall preisthood also is without doubt as they do in the reformed Churches and with vs where there is neyther prelate not parochiall minister but our question is not about some particular workes as myne opposite makes it but as hath been oft observed about the very function it self and the power by which it is given and vsed And for the poynt since all the ministers of that Church are made appoynted by the Bishops authority take away the same Bishops authority and how can the ministers remayn the same ministers Take away the correlative and the relation ceaseth 2. Take away the prelacy and how possibly can such a ministery continue as is the parochiall whereof the one of the two partes though the inferiour which stands in fee●ing the flock by ruling shal be vsurped and possessed by the prelates and theyr ordinaryes 3. Take away the Provin and Dioc Prelates and with them the prov and dioc churches and then the parochiall churches as partes of them must fall with them theyr whole and with the churches the ministers as partes of them 4 It is not possible that the prelacy being abolished such an office of ministery of which office the reader must still remember our question to be should survive as whereof men vtterly vnapt to teach should be capable as it is with the parochiall ministery Can such stuffe passe thorough any but Byshops fingers or will the Lord ever wipe away so much of theyr shame as to suffer any other hands but of prelates and theyr chaplayns to be layd vppon the heads of such Idoll-preists Or is it possible that in any other then the Episcopall governmēt the ministery of ●o many zealous and learned teachers should hang vppon the cop-web of conformity to Crosse Surplice such vanityes be in daunger every day for refusall thereof to be broken asunder Can this web be woven by others then Byshops or of other stuffe then comes out of theyr bowels Lastly is it possible that in such light of the truth as now shineth in Engl all the profane parrish without difference should be compelled to