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A82824 The humble petition of the Lords and Commons in Parliament, sent to His Majestie at York. Concerning the removall of His Majesties arms, cannon, and ammunition, in his magazin at Hull. And the taking off the reprive of six condemned priests, prisoners in Newgate. With His Majesties answer thereunto. 14. April. 1642. England and Wales. Parliament.; Charles I, King of England, 1600-1649.; England and Wales. Sovereign (1625-1649 : Charles I). 1642 (1642) Wing E1582; Thomason E144_11; ESTC R11025 2,872 14

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The humble PETITION OF The Lords and Commons in PARLIAMENT Sent to His MAJESTIE at YORK Concerning the Removall of His Majesties Arms Cannon and Ammunition in His Magazin at Hull And the taking off the Reprive of six condemned Priests prisoners in Newgate With His Majesties Answer thereunto 14. April 1642. YORK Printed by ROBERT BARKER Printer to the Kings most Excellent Majestie And by the Assignes of JOHN BILL 1642. TO THE KINGS MOST EXCELLENT MAJESTIE The humble Petition of the Lords and Commons Assembled in Parliament Most Gracious Soveraign YOur most dutifull and loyall Subjects the Lords and Commons in Parliament Assembled finding the stores of Arms and Ammunition in the Tower of London much diminished And that the necessitie of Supplies for Your Majesties Kingdom of Ireland for which they have been issued from thence daily increaseth And that the occasion for which the Magazin was placed at Hull is now taken away And considering it will be kept here with lesse charge and more safety and transported hence with much more convenience for the service of the Kingdom of Ireland They therefore humbly pray That Your Majestie will be graciously pleased to give leave that the said Arms Cannon and Ammunition now in Magazin at Hull may be removed to the Tower of London according as shall be directed by both Your Houses of Parliament And whereas six Priests now in Newgate are condemned to die and by Your Majestie have been reprived They humbly pray Your Majestie to be pleased that the said Reprive may be taken off and the said Priests executed according to Law His Majesties Answer to the aforesaid Petition WE rather expected and have done so long that you should have given Vs an Accompt why a Garison hath been placed in Our Town of Hull without Our consent and Souldiers billeted there against Law and expresse words of the Petition of Right then to be moved for the avoiding of a needlesse charge you have put on your selves to give Our consent for the Removall of Our Magazin and Munition Our own proper goods upon such generall Reasons as indeed give no satisfaction to Our Iudgement And since ye have made the businesse of Hull your Argument We would gladly be informed Why Our own Inclination on the generall Rumour of the Designes of Papists in the Northern parts was not thought sufficient ground for Vs to put a Person of Honour Fortune and unblemished Reputation into a Town and Fort of Our own where Our own Magazin lay and yet the same Rumour be Warrant enough for you to commit the same Town and Fort without Our consent to the hands of Sir John Hotham with a power unagreeable to the Law of the Land or the Liberty of the Subject And yet of this in point of Right or Priviledge for sure We are not without Priviledge too We have not all this while complained And being confident that that place whatsoever discourse there is of publique or private instructions to the contrary shall be speedily given vp if We shall require it We shal be contented to dispose Our Munition there as We have done in other places for the publique ease and benefit as vpon particular advice We shall finde convenient though We cannot think it fit or consent that the whole Magazin be removed together but when you shall agree upon such Proportions as shall be held necessary for any particular service We shall signe such Warrants as shall be agreeable to wisdom and Reason And if any of them be designed for Ulster or Leinster you know well the conveyance will be more easie and convenient from the place they are now in Yet We must tell you That if the Fears are so great from the Papists at home or of forreign Force as is pretended it seems strange that you make not provision of Arms and Munition for defence of this Kingdom rather then seek to carry any more from hence without some course taken for supply especially if ye remember your ingagement to Our Scots Subjects for that proportion of Arms which is contained in your Treaty We speak not this as not thinking the sending of Arms to Scotland very necessary but onely for the way of the Provision for you know what great quantities We have assigned out of Our severall Stores which in due time We hope you wil see replenished For the charge of looking to the Magazin at Hull as it was undertaken voluntarily by you at first and to say no more unnecessarily so you may free Our good People of that charge and leave it to Vs who are the proper Owner of it And this We hope will give you full satisfaction in this point and that ye do not as ye have done in the businesse of the Militia send this Message out of Complement and Ceremony resolving to be your own Carvers at last For We must tell you if any Attempt or Direction shall be made or given in this Matter without Our Consent or Approbation We shall esteem it as an Act of Violence against Vs and declare it to all the World as the greatest violation of Our Right and breach of Our Priviledge Concerning the six Priests condemned T is true they were reprieved by Our Warrant being informed that they were by some restraint disabled to take the benefit of Our former Proclamation since that We have issued out another for the due execution of the Laws against Papists and have most solemnly promised In the Word of a King Never to pardon any Priest without your consent which shall be found guilty by Law desiring to banish these having herewith sent a Warrant to that purpose if upon second thoughts ye do not disapprove thereof But if you think the execution of these persons so very necessary to the great and pious work of Reformation We refer it wholly to you declaring hereby That upon such your resolution signified to the Ministers of Iustice Our Warrant for their Reprieve is determined and the Law to have the course And now let Vs ask you for We are willing to husband time and to dispatch as much as may be under one Message God knows the distractions of this Kingdom wants a present remedy Will there never be a time to offer to as well as to aske of Vs We will propose no more particulars to you having no luck to please to be understood by you Take your own time for what concerns Our particular But be sure ye have an early speedy care of the Publique that is of the onely rule which preserves the Publique The Law of the Land Preserve the Dignitie and reverence due to that 'T was well said in a speech made by a private person but published by Order of the House of Commons this Parliament It was part of Pyms speech against the Earle of Strafford The Law is that which puts a difference betwixt Good and Evill betwixt Just and Unjust if you take away the Law all things will fall into a Confusion every man will become a Law to himself which in the depraved condition of humane Nature must needs produce many great Enormities Lust will become a Law and Envy will become a Law Covetousnesse and Ambition will become Laws and what Dictates what Decisions such Laws will produce may easily be discerned So said that Gentleman and much more very well in defence of the Law and against Arbitrary power 'T is worth looking over and considering And if the most zealous Defence of true Protestant Profession the most resolved protection of the Law be the most necessary Duty of a Prince We cannot beleeve this miserable Distance and Mis-understanding can be long continued betwixt Vs We having often and earnestly declared them to be the chiefest Desires of Our Soul and the end and rule of all Our Actions For Ireland We have sufficiently and We hope satisfactorily expressed to all Our good Subjects Our hearty sense of that sad businesse in Our severall Messages in that Argument but especially in Our last of the eighth of this Moneth concerning Our Resolution for that Service for the speedy Honourable and full performance whereof We conjure you to yeeld all possible Assistance and present Advice FINIS