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A40899	The Lord Cravens case stated; and the impostor dethron'd by way of reply to Captain George Bishop, a grand Quaker in Bristoll. Wherein is briefly hinted, the rottenness of the Quakers conversion, and perfection, in general, exemplified in this busie bishop; in special instanced in his practises against the estate of the Lord Craven, life of Mr. Love. By occasion whereof, this truth is asserted, viz. if we may judge of the conscience, honesty, and perfection of Quakers in general, by this man in particular, a man may be as vile a person, as any under heaven, and yet a perfect Quaker.	Farmer, Ralph.; Bishop, George, d. 1668. aut	1660 (1660)	Wing F442; ESTC R218269	94,789	137

were familiarly acquainted with Hollister for whom this daring man doth thus protest hee being by mee charged in special for turning Quaker upon faction and discontent before ever I saw their book which was but lately published it is a book published by and in the name of that Church as they call themselves whereof hee was a member or rather Master till hee fell away to the Quakers and drew away from them as they say in their Epistle to the Reader eighteen or nineteen with him in the tenth and eleventh page of which book they say they did observe in what height of discontent hee came home from that thing call'd a Parliament and continued in that posture viz. of discontent till a new Religion came which was the Quakers which say they presently within few daies or weeks hee imbraced So that I can nor I think will any considering man look upon him no otherwise than as one of those Knights of the Post as they call them who will say or swear any thing and this to let you see the spirit of the man And now to proceed hee professes and as you see boldly protests his innocency in the matter of the Lord Craven and Faulconer nor hath hee used nor doth hee know of any indirect proceeding in that whole business Now that my Reader who is a stranger in this matter may go along with mee with understanding I shall as briefly as I can lay the whole business before him The Lord Craven having been for many years long before the troubles in England resident in Holland and imployed in their service having a command under the Prince of Orange the Scots King going to Breda the Lord Craven came thither in attendance upon the Prince of Orange during the Scotch Kings residence at Breda divers officers souldiers formerly in the service of the King his Father being in great distress and like to perish drew up a Petition for relief of their necessities Now Faulconer aforesaid having been a souldier a Major in the Parliament service and being as upon his death-bed hee confest in a poor desperate condition and going over to Breda as a Spy strikes in with these Cavileers as one of them and was intreated by them to drw the aforesaid Petition which hee did in drawing thereof Faulconer moved that they might Petition the Scotch King that they might bee entertained by him to fight against the Commonwealth of England by the name of barbarons and inhumane Rebels but those honest Cavaleers answered that they were souldiers of fortune and it was uncivil language and they would not have it in and so the Petition being drawn up by Faulconer according to their minde was delivered to the Scotch King who it seems promised to consider them About three weeks after the Scotch King being to depart from Breda next morning these Cavaleers not finding answerable relief according to the former Petition and the Kings promise they drew up another short Petition to put him in minde of his promise and meeting the Lord Craven there who they knew to bee a friend to souldiers they entreat him to further that their Petition hee knowing nothing of the former nor did it appear that the Lord Craven promoted this second Petition which if hee had there was not any thing offensive but the Scotch King went away next morning without giving any relief to the per●●●ners as Captain Brisco one of them swears at Faulconers tryal insomuch that Faulconer being discontented that hee got no moneys said as hee was going into the Town This is a horrid thing that wee should bee in this case to follow a thing they call a King God dam me I will go into England and do all the mischief I can as Col. Drury another of the Petitioners informed at Faulconers tryal of which afterward Now that you may better know what a manner of person this Faulconer was and how fit for any desperate undertaking it was at his tryal sworn against him that hee drunk a health upon his knees to the devil in the open streets at Petersfield and that then hee used these words I have spent my brothers estate and my own I will never want money for whilst there is any in the Nation I will get one way or other and I will doe something of infamy to bee talkt of that the name of Faulconer shall never die One James Greham swore against him that after the siege of Exeter in a Cellar there hee the said Faulconer put into Grehams hand a two and twenty shillings piece of gold swearing Dam him blood and wounds hee would bugger his soul to hell Another swore that dam him and sink him were his usual expressions One Bradley testified that hee heard Faulconer say our Saviour Christ was a bastard and a Carpenters son and carried a basket of tools after his Father Mr. Thomas Dyer of Bristol being produced as a witness did declare that Faulconer confest to him that hee had ten pound of a man by procuring one to personate Captain Bishop Thus a Citizen desiring Faulconer to get Captain Bishop to do a business for him hee promised Faulconer twenty pound ten pound in hand and ten pound afterward Faulconer got one to personate Captain Bishop and to go along with him to the Citizen which man so personating Captain Bishop promised the Citizen upon the account of Major Faulconers good services for the publike to afford him his best assistance in effecting what was desired in his Petition and so Faulconer got the ten pound It was also proved that Faulconer was committed to Goal in the County of Middlesex for suspition of felony and thence by order from the Lord Chief Justice Rolls to Newgate and that hee had been committed to Ailsbury Goal upon suspition of felony robbery and murther Now this Faulconer having been over at Breda as aforesaid and returning into England George Bishop being Clerk to the Committee for informations has to do with him from whence hee receives information of divers plots and designes of the adverse party to the Parliament But to come to the business the Lord Craven having a great Estate in England of Land besides brave houses one in particular that cost twenty thousand pound the building besides brave and gallant woods and timber being thus beyond Sea and never acted against the Parliament in armes a long time after Faulconer had been over and given in his informations of enemies actings and having said nothing of or against the Lord Craven an information is drawn up against the said Lord Craven in Faulconers name as the informant which is as followeth Faulconers Examination Who saith THat about a Fortnight before the conclusion of the Treaty at Breda the Lord Craven the Queen of Bohemia and her two Daughters came to Breda to the Scots King Charles and went not thence till the King went to Housteidike a house of the Prince of Oranges that during that time this Informant saw the Lord Craven divers times

in presence with the said King and every day with the said King at the Court there hee being there with the Queen of Bohemia and her two daughters to take their leave as they said of the King of Scots before hee went to Scotland That several Officers about thirty in number made a Petition to the said King to entertain them to fight for him against the Commonwealth of England by the name of barbarous and inhumane Rebels either in England or Scotland for the recovering of his just rights and re-instating him in his Throne and deputed this Informant and Colonel Drury to present the said Petition who indeed drew the same that when the Informant and some other Officers came to the Court at Breda intending to present the said Petition immediately to the Kings hand but finding the Lord Craven very neer to him likewise the Marquess of New-castle who presented his brother Sir Charles Cavendish to kiss the said Kings hand the evening before the said Kings departure who this Informant saw kiss the Kings hand accordingly The Lord Wilmot the Earl of Cleveland the Queen of Bohemia the Lord Gerrard c. and a great buttle of business This Informant with Colonel Drury applied themselves to the Lord Craven entreating him to present the Petition to the Queen of Bohemia to present it to the King of Scots The said Lord Craven taking the Petition and reading the same cheerfully said to Colonel Drury and this Informant there is the Queen of Bohemia deliver it to her and I will speak for you upon which they applyed themselves to the said Queen and shee presented the Petition after which the King of Scots the Lord Craven the Marquess of New-castle the Queen of Bohemia with some other Lords went into a with-drawing room where this Informant and company could not enter but the Lord Craven came forth of the with-drawing Chamber and told this Informant and company that they should receive an answer from the Queen of Bohemia to their Petition and that hee had spoken to the Queen of Bohemia in their behalf who afterward came and told this Informant and company that shee had delivered their Petition and that the King had taken order for it The next morning at three of the clock the King departed but this Informant and company had their quarters satisfied by the Princesse of Orange according to the said Kings Order upon their Petition and thereby to inable them to follow the said King in the prosecution of these wars against the Parliament of England which was the effect of their aforesaid Petition That this Informant saw the Lord Craven very often and familiar with the said King and enter with the said King into the with-drawing Chamber and staid there the last night the said King was at Breda very late Richard Faulconer To this were added these two following examinations Colonel Hugh Reyleys Examination Who saith THat during the late Treaty at Breda this Informant did oftentimes see my Lord Craven with the now King of Scots in his Bed-chamber and also walked abroad with him there being no man more conversant with the King than hee That the said Lord Craven during the said Treaty did twice go to Rotterdam and Dunhagh and back again being imployed as was commonly reported at Court there by the said King that the said Lord Craven had a charge from the King to look to one Mrs. Barlow who as is reported and he believes to bee true had a childe by the King of Scots born at Rotterdam which hee did and after the King was gone for Scotland the said Lord Craven took the childe from her for which shee went to Law with him and recovered the childe as is reported Hugh Reyley Captain Kitchingmans Examination Who saith THat the said Captain Thomas Kitchingman in April and May 1650. saw the Lord Craven several times with the King of Scots at Breda and waiting upon the said King several times at his Table at Breda This Informant also saw the Earle of Oxford at the same time with the King of Scots at Breda waiting upon the said King at his Table and saw the Lord Craven and the Earl of Oxford many times going into the withdrawing rooms after the said King This Informant also saw the Lord Craven and the Earl of Oxford in a Bowling-alley in Breda Castle with the said King Tho. Kitchingman In these two latter Examinations Reyl●ys was but report you see there was nothing that would render Lord Craven criminous But upon this his estate was ordered to bee confiscate and afterward sold and sold it was and is accordingly Of the endeavours of the Lord Cravens friends to prevent it and what was agitated in Parliament I shall not mention for that I refer the Reader to a printed piece entituled A true and perfect Narrative of the several proceedings in the case concerning the Lord Craven printed by R. White 1653. Now if this information of Faulconer bee the onely material testimony upon which the Lord Cravens estate was sequestred and that Faulconer in this information was perjured and forsworn and this bee a false information then this will clearly follow that there was indirect proceedings in some body in this business and that this information of Faulconers was and is false and hee perjured in it and forsworn appears by two most pregnant testimonies neither of them to be denied First by his legal tryal and conviction Secondly by his own confession on his death-bed For Faulconers tryal and conviction of perjury in and for this very information that appears by the Records thereof for the Lord Cravens friends prefer'd an Indictment of perjury against him in the County of Middlesex which Indictment was found against him one Sir Henry Blunt being foreman of the Jury Delayes were used to hinder Faulconers pleading to it notwithstanding the Prosecutors for the Lord Craven had procured a Habeas Corpus to bring him to the Bar to plead to the Indictment which hee failing they procure another Habeas Corpus hee yet gets further time and a peremptory day assigned by the Court or else Judgement to bee entred against him And the very last day when needs must and not before when the last roll was out hee pleaded not guilty Now Paulconer having pleaded not guilty a Jury is summoned Councel appear in the Vpper Bench at Westminster Mr. Maynard Mr. Hales Mr. Twisden Mr. Philips Mr. Baldwin and Mr. Drury for the Commonwealth and the Lord Craven Mr. Windham Mr. Letch Mr. Lechmore and Mr. Haggat of Councel for Faulconer where upon five hours debate the said Faulconer was found guilty of perjury in this very matter against the Lord Craven the whole proceedings whereof you have fully related in the Narrative before mentioned This tryall and conviction of Faulconer was May 20. 1653. Hereupon Faulconer was committed to the Upper Bench prison in Southwark where hee lay till hee died Now for the second evidence of Faulconers perjury in

the high dishonour of God in their unchristian principles and practises too well known and in prophaning the Sabbath by multitude of their Proselites flocking from all parts of the Country round about us upon that day But now so it is that one James Naylor a most eminent Ring-leader and head of that Faction hath lately appeared here among us more high than ever in horrid and open blasphemies expressy avowed and owned by his neerest followers as that hee is the onely begotten Son of God and that there is no other than hee that hee is the everlasting Son of righteousness and that in him the hopes of Israel stands that hee is the King of Israel and Prince of Peace and calling him Lord and Master saying his name shall bee no more called James but Jesus All which are no other than the natural issue of their Scripture-denying principles And now wee desiring to follow the Ductures of Divine Providence which hath brought their iniquitie to a height at such a time as this is when the Legistative power of the Nation is sitting in whom it is to provide wholesome and good lawes against the growing evils of the times wherein the Lord eminentlie in our apprehensions calls for your zeal for his glory Wee humbly make our applications to your Honours and with profession of our abhorrency and utter detestation of the damnable and blasphemous Doctrines of the Quakers which tend in their own nature to the utter ruine of the true Christian Religion and civil Government both in Cities families and all relations as would too soon appear had they power in their hands and who now not as heretofore tacitly and by way of implication but openly and expresly dishonour that sacred Name by which wee are called and trample upon that blood by which wee are justified by making others sharers with him in his incommunicable excellencies And do therefore humbly pray that your Honours would now take up the reines of Government into your hands which have too long lain loose in this particular and to curb the insolencies of all ungodly persons who in this or any other way do or may eclipse the glory of our Christian Profession by their unbridled and licentious liberties that so the reproach not only of this City but of the whole Nation and Government may bee rolled away And the glory of this work being acted by your hands might render your names worthy to bee enrolled amongst the number of those faithful Confessours to whom the honour of our dearest Lord hath been more precious than their lives and all worldly enjoyments And wee shall daily pray c. So that here you see George can make and feign an occasion to usher in his friendlie Letter in Naylors behalf and yet would not seem to own him this is not the first of Georges collusions and packing in this kinde I 'le but minde him of the like practise and that was about our Burgesses chosen for the Parliament 54. where having fram'd a Petition against the Election putting to the hands of several persons that knew not of it in a base and wicked way as was proved to the Lords of the Councel Besides this piece of knavery which was most gross their Petition presented to his Highness and his Councel with their Narrative of the proceedings in that Election petitioned that the parties nominated by them might bee approved and established And who were they but George himself for one as by their Narrative Art 5. appeareth Now when they thought to have surpriz'd us by short summons to appear before the Councel as one of their own party acknowledged afterwards and supposed wee would not appear or not provided which contrary to their expectation wee were having gotten Copies of their Petition and Narrative before hand and so were fitted accordingly when wee came to the hearing they had foisted in another Petition not that which was presented with their Narrative And in this second there was no Petition to confirm himself as the former with reference to the Narrative as aforesaid prayed And then George very finely with his guilt sword did not appear there as hee said for himself but for those honest men that were with him Seriously you would have smiled knowing of him how demurely and how simply honest hee did look Now this trick George wee took notice of but never told you of it till now having enough else to lay you then But now wee tell you of it that you may see wee know you better than you are aware of And that the world may know further what a one you are I 'le acquaint them with one thing more Do not you know who it was that a little before that Election said that wee must chuse such Parliament men as should hold my Lord Protectors nose to the grinde-stone And yet see how this lamentable creature doth glose and glaver and cog and fawn and flatter speaking against the very light within him And this is in their said Petitions which that you may see that base practise and the high conceits of himself and his party as the only Saints and fit for Quakers I 'le lay before you To his Highness Oliver Lord Protector of the Commonwealth of England Scotland and Ireland c. The humble Petition of divers free Burgesses and Inhabitants of the City and Councel of Bristol Sheweth THat your Petitioners and divers other Burge sles and Inhabitants of the City and Councel of Bristol viz. the generality of the godly faithful and constant friends to the Parliaments interest came to the place and at the time appointed by the Sheriffs for the chusing of Burgesses to sit in Parliament according to the qualifications in the instrument of Government supposing that those that had been faithful to the cause of God and the Nation should have received countenance and have been owned by those who were to execute your Highness Commands in a business of so great weight and concernment as the Election of Burgesses to sit in Parliament for the carrying on and securing the common interest of liberty contended for and brought through by the good hand of the Lord such Seas of Bloud and multitudes of other unspeakable sufferings and ruines of the Saints and good people of the Nations amongst whom that your Petitioners and their friends have borne no small share and proportion That contrariwise they found those who all along both in principle and practise have bitterly opposed the cause of God in the behalf of the late King and your Petitioners and other their friends from prosecuting the same countenanced and incouraged to avote and undertook by the Sheriffes to bee born out in so doing and your Petitioners with other friends with a very high hand affronted abused threatned and some of them though rightlie qualified denied to vote as by the Narrative of proceedings hereunto annexed more particularly may appear to which your Petitioners humbly refer your Highness as that which they own

restrain him from lying The truth is according to that principle of his that hee whoever once truly believed can never by any sin or wickedness whatsoever loose the love and favour of God His being ready to die in conjunction with a perswasion of his Saintship should rather bee a temptation upon him tolie or commit any other wickednesse than an ingagement upon him to refrain lying I have done with that but I pray that you may finde more favour and mercy from God than hee found from you and to that end let him grant you grace to repent of these pightful and most cruel prosecutions As for your Prosecutions of him in his life and of his tryal I shall not enter upon the story of although I have relations of it it would prove too large an undertaking nor will I insist upon your rotten and unsavoury language of the Ministers of the Gospet whom in scorn you call his Clergie companions you were fairly disposed for quaking then nor will I debate the cause which you maliciously in your former book the Lord Cravens case charge upon Presbyterians in general wherein how rash heady uncharitable and unchristian you are let your self consider In page 22. of that book you speak it which because it tends also to discover the suspition that even yourself had of the injustice of sequestring the Lord Cravens Estate and do therefore endeavour to extenuate it from the circumstancy of the time when it was done I shall lay before the Reader and thus you give it forth The tme when the Parliament gave judgement upon his estate that 's right not upon his person that had not offended was when the Commonwealth was deeply imbroi●●d in wars and designes lay every where to blow up this Nation in all parts thereof their Army in Scotland and the Scots drawn into the field after their rout at Dunbar ready to serve the desperate and great designes and conspiracies laid by Mr. Love Those of the Presbyterie and the Kings Partie then ripe and readie to break forth in all parts all of which were the effects of that Treatie at Breda where the Lord Craven was often with the King and his Privy Councel But doth any one person so much as say that hee came to treat or did treat not one and assisting his Officers in their Petition for relief to bee in a capacitie to serve him which you see was proved to bee a lye and some of whom served in those designes and otherwise and of which the Parliament were sensible what was this to the Lord Craven and the Lord Craven had manifested to most that conversed with him his disaffection to the Parliament and Supreme Authoritie no such thing is charg'd against him in such times and cases have many considerations as the reason of their actions which those who are without doors neither know nor apprehend nor are to take upon them so to do Thus hee The language in the last part of it is inconsistent and incoherent a kinde of non-sense but this clearly is his meaning viz. that the times being dangerous as hee describes them have many considerations and reasons to sequester the Lord Cravens estate which those who are not his Judges no nor bee himself are to know or apprehend nor must enquire into In plain English the Lord Craven must lose his estate and none must ask a reason why Are not these sweet doings As hee himself sayes in another case page 19. But to go on with the matter of Mr. Love Mr. Love and the Presbyterie are designing the Nations ruine sayes George if you may bee believed and how honest you are even in your most serious protestations and appeals to God appears already But if you suppose and that 's enough with you that Mr. Love or the Presbytery designe the Nations ruine you will bee sure right or wrong to accomplish these I have heard say heretofore of the Marches in Wales that a cause there did seldome fail for want of prosecution and good witnesses you were a notable man to make an agent there well or ill fare him who if a cause bee not good can make it so I shall not as I said ingage to the whole of your prosecution against him I shall only notifie what I finde concerning your self in a book written and published by Mr. Love himself which in the close hee sayes was finished the last day but one before his death and at such a time what ever you say men are most serious and to bee believed The title of it thus A clear and necessary vindication of the principles and practices of me Christopher Love c. which book hee sayes hee writ for the vindication of his name from those obloquies and reproaches which by the Sons of Slander were cast upon him was not this you George who would fain have his name to bee buried and rot above ground before his friends could bury his body under ground In this book of his hee complains that whereas at his Tryal hee had a Notary to write for him they took away all the books from him so that nothing might come to publick view but with what additions or ialterations they pleas to his greater disadvantage But hee sayes his hope is that some faithful pen or other hath writ his defence and the Witnesses depositions which is done and I have and according to them hee desires that his innocency bee judged by indifferent and unprejudicated men it contains seventeen sheets very large paper and very small print I shall not meddle with ought thereof I shall only give in what I have from Mr. Loves own book In page 36. hee desires his Readers that if other slanders for hee had answer'd and wip'd off many should be cast upon him that they would have so much charitie not to believe reports raised upon him when hee shall bee silent in the grave and not able to speak in his own vindication And page 37. hee saves 'T is very likelie that they his Prosecutors will not publish the depositions of the Witnesses in Court but the private examinations taken from them in prizate and patche together by Master S. and Captain Bishop They were not ashamed sayes hee to proau●e them and read them in open Court And hee sayes some of the Witnesses had so much honesty left as to disavow them in open Court and therefore sayes hee believe nothing but what was sworn in open Court nor all that neither for some of the Witnesses swore falsely as sayes hee I made appeare in my defence In the same page I desire you sayes hee to take notice that there is a lying Pamphlet put forth entituled A short Plea for the Commonwealth In which there are many gross lies especially in things which relate to mee and which hee himselfe is best able to speak to Hee sayes there further it is not fit for him to enter the lists with him It becomes not sayes hee a dying man to write of

Congregation for I had never met them formerly which was seconded thus by Mistress Nethway Aye Mr. Farmer if you would bee one of our Congregation you may bee chosen Pastor afterwards which words the very thoughts of the matter being strange to mee I do professe made mee wonder which produc'd this reply from mee Chosen Pastor Mistress Nethway What mean you To which after some other words shee said shee was told that if I might bee chosen Pastor I would joyn with them which I denying and shee affirming again that shee was told so but would not tell mee by whom but 't is easily supposeable I then presently appealed to Mr. Purnill then present to witness for mee to the contrary to whom formerly in discourse I had declared several times that I could not joyn with them which hee at that time witnessed and this to bee a truth I appeal to that light and truth of God that shines in his and their consciences and which I hope they will not dare to stifle notwithstanding that distance which is now between us And the reasons why I would not joyn with them were because they performed their Lords day duties in private houses to the prejudice of the publike which I ever honoured as I shall declare in another discourse Christ assisting mee And for that they had no lawfully constituted Pastor to take the charge of them True it is I should likely have joyned with them had those two hinderances been removed And to this purpose I did divers times solicite Master N. I. a rightly constituted and able Preacher to take the charge of them promising my self to sit down as a private member only exercising my publike Ministery by way of preaching which hee refused and this I doubt not hee will testifie And further to make it appear that I desired not to bee their Pastor being conscious to my self of the weight of that work and my unfitness in divers respects I did in an occasional discourse with some of them declare my unfitness which is so true that one of them now a Quaker did since by way of reproach upbraid mee with my own acknowledgment so that then I had no intention of joyning with them and since that I gaining further light in matter of Churches and their appendant questions and they drawing more and more towards Anabaptisme I more and more declined and disowned them And whereas hee sayes I became an adversary to separated Churches when the state of things were changed I ask to what were the times changed or from what Not from that way of separated Churches but more to it If I did it then then I did it not to serve the times but to secure my conscience But wherein did I or did I ever appear an enemy to separated Churches Why doth hee not shew wherein But of this more in another discourse And so much in answer to that ly of George and his Master Dennis Another there is of the same Forge I am sure and that hee speaks to page 59.60 And again being chafed with the business of the Lord Craven page 109. where hee joynes them both together The charge is this from both places That I earnestly solicited some then in power for turning out of Nicholas one of my brethren Constant Jessop by name for his differing in judgement in some particulars urging as an argument for this purpose that till then the City would not bee in quiet into whose place by diligent seeking I did climbe and domineered ever since over his people and him as the issue of that prosecution and that I forced my self upon his people to this day by procuring an order from above and that thereby I got my self out of poor Thomas into rich Nicholas Now this whole story is a most wilful mistake as it s grounded upon what Furge page 49. of my Narrative and in this I appeal to his light within for that person and thing which hee cannot but know I meant was this that Hollister and his company then domineering threatened the Magistrates and the rest of the Committee who were not of their faction that if they might not have him whom they sent for out of Wales to bee their Teacher one of no breeding and that hath since often denied himself to bee a Minister and is now turned Anabaptist to bee one of the publick Lecturers in the City they would turn out of the City a godly and Orthodox Minister who had been imprisoned and suffered much more than any of them for his good affection to the Parliament hee differing that time in judgement in some particulars and so they had their end which as is well known hath proved a reproach and scandal to this City from many strangers that come hither and take notice of it Now this person hee knowes very well was Master Paul for as for Mr. Jessop hee was never committed to prison upon my occasion Is this man now a true Convert Is hee not a manifest prevaricator And did hee it not on purpose to bring in that ly and malicious slander of his fellow Hollister The Church of Christ in Bristol recevering her vail Whom to bee a lyar a piece lately published by those who were his fellow-members with his Teacher aforesaid doth amply testifie and which I my self also have had sufficient experience of oftentimes insomuch that I desired one a Minister of this City who was then wont sometimes to visit him to tell him from mee that his shop was a forge of lies And for the matter of Mr. Jessop I shall give a true and full account of it so far as concernes my self thereby to discover these lyars to the world It 's well known upon the death of the late King what endeavours there were by the then Parliament for setling the Nation in peace In order whereunto there was an engagement drawn up and required to bee subscribed by all persons And it is as well known in this City how opposite Master Jessop aforesaid together with that other Brother was thereunto and what expressions concerning that matter were used by them both in prayer and preaching I need not mention By which means there was much aversenesse in many of this City to this settlement they being honest men and having a great influence upon the people At this I thirsting for a setted peace was much offended and did endeavour with themselves privately to take off their opposition and publikely to settle the people declaring my dislike of their doings With this and the like expressions that if they the Preachers did apprehend those actions of State whereby they endeavoured a settlement as evil they should go up to Westminster and declare it to those who had the power and not trouble the people with those things which they had no ability to amend or power to withstand and for that their doings would but raise an impotent disgust and opposition with the publike prejudice further telling them of an evil which