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A44191 Lord Hollis, his remains being a second letter to a friend, concerning the judicature of the bishops in Parliament, in the vindication of what he wrote in his first : and in answer to ... The rights of the bishops to judge in capital cases in Parliament, cleared, &c. : it contains likewise part of his intended answer to a second tractate, entituled, The grand question touching the bishops right to vote in Parliament, stated and argued : to which are added Considerations, in answer to the learned author of The grand question, &c., by another hand : and reflections upon some passages in Mr. Hunt's Argument upon that subject, &c., by a third.; Second letter to a friend concerning the judicature of the bishops in Parliament Holles, Denzil Holles, Baron, 1599-1680.; Holles, Denzil Holles, Baron, 1599-1680. Letter of a gentleman to his friend.; Atwood, William, d. 1705? Reflections upon Antidotum Britannicum. 1682 (1682) Wing H2466; ESTC R17318 217,539 444

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singuli_fw-la comites_fw-la &_o barones_n &_o eorum_fw-la pares_fw-la all_o earl_n and_o baron_n ought_v to_o be_v summon_v as_o also_o their_o peer_n i_o know_v the_o authority_n of_o this_o treatise_n have_v be_v question_v by_o some_o learned_a man_n but_o by_o none_o with_o more_o violence_n and_o less_o reason_n than_o by_o mr._n prin_fw-mi in_o his_o four_o part_n of_o his_o register_n of_o writ_n etc._n p._n 591._o to_o which_o easy_a answer_n may_v be_v give_v if_o we_o consider_v the_o translator_n out_o 743_o of_o the_o saxon_a tongue_n may_v easy_o translate_v word_n which_o they_o think_v of_o a_o equivalent_a signification_n by_o word_n in_o use_n at_o that_o time_n as_o wittena_n gemot_n for_o parliament_n and_o the_o like_a other_o of_o as_o great_a judgement_n have_v as_o strenuous_o defend_v the_o authority_n of_o it_o sir_n edward_n cook_n in_o his_o jurisdiction_n court_n of_o the_o court_n of_o parliament_n strong_o defend_v its_o antiquity_n and_o mr._n hakewell_n 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in_o convocation_n as_o i_o have_v sufficient_o i_o hope_v make_v appear_v pag._n 19_o 20_o etc._n etc._n of_o this_o discourse_n as_o also_o that_o they_o have_v the_o appellation_n of_o baron_n and_o peer_n not_o that_o they_o real_o be_v so_o which_o must_v have_v ennoble_v their_o blood_n but_o in_o respect_n of_o their_o tenure_n in_o capite_fw-la sicut_fw-la baroniam_fw-la or_o per_fw-la servitium_n baroniae_fw-la and_o for_o the_o most_o part_n so_o call_v by_o themselves_o only_o our_o author_n suggestion_n p._n 151._o that_o they_o sit_v in_o parliament_n in_o a_o double_a capacity_n 151._o as_o it_o be_v new_a so_o be_v it_o not_o solid_a he_o say_v when_o they_o sit_v in_o the_o house_n in_o a_o judicial_a way_n they_o sit_v only_o in_o the_o capacity_n of_o temporal_a baron_n and_o that_o this_o appear_v by_o the_o constitution_n of_o clarendon_n where_o the_o king_n require_v their_o attendance_n as_o his_o baron_n but_o that_o in_o their_o legislative_a way_n they_o 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beside_o they_o in_o the_o 47_o the_o of_o hen._n 3._o which_o to_o be_v sure_a be_v before_o the_o 49_o the_o there_o be_v a_o army_n to_o be_v send_v against_o llewelin_n prince_n of_o wales_n who_o commit_v hostility_n against_o the_o english_a this_o it_o be_v certain_a be_v no_o general_n council_n of_o the_o kingdom_n be_v only_o a_o summons_n to_o the_o war_n and_o yet_o the_o great_a baron_n have_v personal_a summons_n as_o appear_v by_o the_o record_n rex_fw-la dilecto_fw-la &_o fideli_fw-la svo_fw-la rogero_n de_fw-fr rigod_n comiti_fw-la so_o norff._n mares_n ang._n salutem_fw-la quia_fw-la llewellinus_fw-la filius_fw-la griffini_n et_fw-la cumplures_fw-la rebel_n nostri_fw-la contra_fw-la homagum_fw-la suum_fw-la &_o fidelitatem_fw-la nobis_fw-la debit_fw-la be_o terras_fw-la nostras_fw-la &_o fidelium_fw-la nostrorum_fw-la in_o partibus_fw-la walliae_fw-la dudum_fw-la ut_fw-la nostis_fw-la hostiliter_fw-la sunt_fw-la aggressi_fw-la terras_fw-la illas_fw-la occupando_fw-la &_o devastando_fw-la in_o nostrum_fw-la dedecus_fw-la &_o in_fw-la nostrum_fw-la et_fw-la predict_v fidelium_fw-la nostrorum_fw-la exheredationem_fw-la manifestam_fw-la vobis_fw-la mandamus_fw-la sub_fw-la debito_fw-la fidelitatis_fw-la &_o homagij_fw-la quibus_fw-la nobis_fw-la tenemini_fw-la &_o sicut_fw-la eaquae_fw-la de_fw-la nobis_fw-la tenetis_fw-la diligitis_fw-la quod_fw-la in_o festo_fw-la beati_fw-la petri_n ad_fw-la vincula_fw-la proximo_fw-la futuro_fw-la sitis_fw-la apud_fw-la wigorn_fw-la cum_fw-la equis_fw-la &_o armis_fw-la &_o cum_fw-la servitio_fw-la vestro_fw-la nobis_fw-la debito_fw-la parati_fw-la exinde_fw-la nobiscum_fw-la proficisci_fw-la in_o expeditionem_fw-la nostram_fw-la contra_fw-la praefatum_fw-la llewellinum_fw-la &_o complice_n suos_fw-la rebel_n nostros_fw-la et_fw-fr it_z a_o de_fw-fr contentis_fw-la in_o hâc_fw-la necessitate_v nostrâ_fw-la ibim_n veniatis_fw-la ut_fw-la dictorum_fw-la rebellium_fw-la nostrorum_fw-la versutia_fw-la adeo_fw-la patenter_fw-la reprimatur_fw-la quod_fw-la nobis_fw-la et_fw-la vobiscedat_fw-la ad_fw-la honorem_fw-la &_o exinde_fw-la vobis_fw-la ad_fw-la grate_v teneamur_fw-la speciales_fw-la testae_fw-la rege_fw-la apud_fw-la westmin_fw-la 25_o o_o die_v maij._n eodem_fw-la modo_fw-la mandatum_fw-la est_fw-la phil._n basset_n etc._n etc._n and_o this_o gentleman_n if_o he_o have_v think_v 156._o fit_a to_o have_v trust_v mr._n selden_n without_o take_v the_o impertinent_a pain_n as_o he_o term_v it_o 592._o of_o search_v the_o record_n may_v have_v know_v that_o about_o 130_o temporal_a baron_n have_v then_o their_o several_a writ_n but_o this_o author_n find_v a_o precept_n to_o a_o 148._o sheriff_n quod_fw-la summoneri_fw-la facias_fw-la archiepiscopos_fw-la episcopos_fw-la comites_fw-la barones_n abbates_n priores_fw-la milites_fw-la et_fw-la liberos_fw-la homines_fw-la qui_fw-la de_fw-la nobis_fw-la tenent_fw-la in_o capite_fw-la etc._n etc._n conclude_v that_o this_o must_v necessary_o be_v a_o curia_fw-la regis_fw-la in_o distinction_n to_o a_o parliament_n because_o of_o the_o general_a writ_n of_o summons_n whereas_o a_o little_a insight_n into_o record_n will_v have_v acquaint_v he_o that_o the_o sheriff_n be_v oblige_v to_o summon_v all_o those_o by_o a_o general_n proclamation_n and_o then_o to_o deliver_v the_o particular_a writ_n to_o the_o great_a baron_n among_o they_o this_o record_n do_v not_o say_v how_o they_o be_v to_o be_v summon_v but_o notwithstanding_o this_o every_o one_o of_o those_o rank_n of_o man_n may_v have_v be_v summon_v particular_o but_o to_o prevent_v all_o mistake_v or_o evasion_n we_o have_v a_o record_n which_o explain_v that_o very_a instance_n which_o he_o insist_o upon_o it_o be_v of_o that_o very_a time_n rex_fw-la vicecom_v devon_n salutem_fw-la praecipimus_fw-la tibi_fw-la quod_fw-la in_o fide_fw-la quâ_fw-la nobis_fw-la teneris_fw-la visis_fw-la literis_fw-la 10._o istis_fw-la scire_fw-la facias_fw-la omnibus_fw-la de_fw-la com._n 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