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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A42758	An assertion of the government of the Church of Scotland in the points of ruling-elders and of the authority of presbyteries and synods with a postscript in answer to a treatise lately published against presbyteriall government.	Gillespie, George, 1613-1648.	1641 (1641)	Wing G745; ESTC R16325	120,649	275

Governement But Presbyteriall Government secretly smileth because while she was ready to say much more for her selfe he did not put her to to it lest himselfe should have been put ad metam non probandi But he particularizeth himselfe and telleth us he hath unfolded the weaknesse of our grounds and disproved our pretended proofs The truth is that the best of them the most of them he hath not touched He addeth that hee hath proved out of the Word of God the liberty of the people in choosing th●ir own officers This may be added ●aute but caste I am sure it is not He would make the world beleeve that Presbyterians are against the peoples election of their officers which is a calumny He saith he hath annexed certaine arguments proving Presbyteriall Governement to be contrary to the pattern which Christ hath left in the New Testament These arguments shall be answered with no great difficulty In this place I shall only say a word of them in generall The man hath a notable faculty of proving that wherein the Presbyterians do agree with him and passing that wherein they disagree from him Many humane testimonies and citations of writers he mustreth together to make a simple reader beleeve that many are of his judgemen● But I find none of them all except two or three to affirme any thing which we deny But why hath he taken all this paines He will present it forsooth to the Kings most excellent Majestie and to the right honourable Lords and the honourable house of Commons now assembled in Parliament As if it were to be expected that a popular and independant forme of Church government in every Congregation which should most certainly open a doore to a thousand remedilesse confusions may obtaine his Majesties royall assent or the acceptation of the High Court of Parliament Nay brother seek some other friends to your cause for if wise men be not too too much deceived the King and the Parliament in their great wisdome do fore-see that whensoever Episcopall government shall be removed another form of Provinciall and nationall Church government must needs succeed unto it Now to come to the substance of his discourse first hee maketh a quarrell against the Presbyteries of particular Churches which are in Scotland called Sessions then against all higher Consistories in the Church As for the Presbyteries of particular Churches he judgeth them three wayes defective First he requireth that all who are admitted into the company of Elders even the governing or ruling Elders should be apt to teach and able to exhort with sound doctrine and convince gainesayers and that not only privately or in the Consistory but in the publick assembly also if not exactly yet competently Answ. 1. Though ruling Elders ought to teach exhort rebuke c. both in the Consistory and privately from house to house as the case of every family and person doth require which is all that can be drawne from those alleaged places to Timothy and Titus if so be they ought at all to be extended to ruling Elders yet there is no place of Scripture to prove that they ought to teach publikly in the Congregation 2. That expression if not exactly yet competently is somewhat mysterious 3. Ruling Elders are expresly distinguished from those that labour in the word and doctrine 1 Tim. 5.17 and from these that teach or exhort Rom. 12.7 8. 4. If ruling Elders shall ●each publikly in the congregation ex officio and with cure of soules as they speak why shall they not also minister the Sacraments which are pendicles and seals of the word and therefore committed to those who are sent to the publick preaching of the Gospell Matth. 28.19 5. Though he speak here only of ruling Elders yet I doubt he requireth of at least will permit to all men that are members of the Church the same publick teaching and prophesying in the Congregation The second defect which he wisheth supplied is that the temporary ruling Elders may be made perpetuall and for life which he enforceth by foure reasons This I assent unto providing he admit a distinction betwixt the office it selfe and the exercise of the same The office of a ruling Elder ought to be for his life no lesse then the Pastors yet must we not condemne those Churches which dispense with the intermission of their actuall attendance for a certaine space and permit them to exercise their office by course as the Levits did of old whose example himselfe here taketh for a patterne The third thing he saith is of most moment He doth complaine that the Elders do not administer their publik office publikly as they should but only in their private Consistory He doth permit them indeed to meet apart for deliberation whereof we shall here afterward but he will have their Church-office which in the Lord they have received to be executed publickly in the face of the Congregation 1. Because an office publick in the nature ought also to be publick in the administration 2. Because the reformed Churches cannot know their Elders whether they be good or bad except by heare-say 3. Because otherwise the Elders can not ministerially take heed to the whole flock as they are warned to do Acts 20.28 Ans. 1. Ruling Elders do execute their office not only in the Consistory but from house to house throughout al the bounds of the Cōgregation which may easily make thē known to that Church where they serve whether they be good or bad 2. Their Consistoriall sentences in all matters of importance such as ordination Church censures excommunication c. are made knowne to the whole Church 3. He passeth a short censure upon the reformed Churches The reformed Churches is a great word but this man maketh a moat of it 4. The place Acts 20.28 cannot helpe him for ruling Elders do feed and oversee the whole flock both by discipline in the Consistory and by taking heed to all the sheepe severally as every one hath need and in that respect may be called both Pastors and Bishops Beside I doubt he can prove that place to be meant of ruling Elders He He goeth on to make plaine what hee hath said by descending to some particulars in which the Elders office s●emeth especially to consist and these are saith hee The admitting of members into the Church upon profession of faith made and the reproving and censuring of obstina●e offenders These are the most frequent publike administrations of the office of Ruling Elders And what of them hee saith as they leave the execution of these things to the Elders alone in the setled and well ordered state of the Church so doe they deny that they can be rightly and orderly done but with the peoples privity and consent His restriction to the setled and well ordered estate of the Church I cannot understand Hee had done well to have explained what hee meaneth by that not setled nor well ordered state of the Church