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A47934 Truth and loyalty vindicated from the reproches [sic] and clamours of Mr. Edward Bagshaw together with a further discovery of the libeller himself, and his seditious confederates / by Roger L'Estrange. L'Estrange, Roger, Sir, 1616-1704. 1662 (1662) Wing L1320; ESTC R12954 47,750 78

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obliged to thank him for his defam●tio●s of me since by confessing himself in the same Book to be guilty of Drunkenness Prophaneness he hath said much more than I can knowingly charge him with and I am sure more than enough to discredit his own Testimony For he that is neither Sober to himself nor Religious to God cannot possi●●y 〈◊〉 Just and Civil to 〈◊〉 and Impiety will easily lead him to Forge●y I shall not therefore seem to plead my own Concer●ment against him since 〈◊〉 Credit and Esteem with Good men i● either very little and then my sollicitousness wi●● but little promote it or else it is so great that it is already placed beyond the Reach of such Rude Assaults and Battery and needs not my own Pe● for its Defence and Vindication TRuly I should be loth that Mr. Bagshaw's Friends should speak Well of Mee R. L'S for I must Do Ill to deserve it and Purchase their Kindness by Betraying my Countrey so that Their Ill-will shall never break My Heart But do they speak so very Ill as to make Mr. Bagshaw Thank me for Defaming him In Truth the Man is somewhat a Preposterous Christian and it may be 't is his Method to be Thankful to his Enemies as well as Ungrateful to his Friends Whoever doubts of the Latter may be satisfi'd from Dr. Pierce his Letter to Dr. Heylin at the end of his Discoverer Discovered And I must Add that in the poynt of Reviling his Superiours and A●using his Friends his Life has been all of a Piece Touching My Defamations of him Alas save in my Memento I never Mention'd him Nor There Neither but upon a fair and Prudential Accompt for it concern'd me to procure that the World might not take Him for an Honest Man that had Reported Mee for a Knave In fine he talks in General of Defamations but let him if he dares put me to prove the Particulars See now in what follows the Confidence Lewdness and Weakness of the Gentleman He says that I confess my self Guilty of Drunkenness and Prophanen●ss which Discredits my Testimony Impiety leading easily to Forgeries The last 't is possible he speak● upon Experience My Words are These I do here Publiquely confess my self not Absolutely Free from Those Distempers Memento Pag. 41 42. which not to cast either upon Good Nature or Complexion I am both Sorry for and asham'd of If I have but Once drank my self to a Distemper or if I have taken Gods ' Name in vain but Once in my Whole Life I may confess my self not Absolutely Free and yet not charge my self with Drunkenness and Prophaneness for under favour of Mr. Bagshaw's Philosophy One Act does not make a Habit and I defie the World to Tax me with it So That in This Particular my Adversary has streyn'd a poynt of Modesty His next slip is a Lewd one All Men have their Sins to answer for and without Repentance no flesh shall be saved I have here made a Pullique Confession and as Publiquely Declar'd a Penitence and Shame so far as I am Guilty Now what can be a greater Scandal to Religion or a greater Affront to Christianity then for a Profess'd Minister of the Gospel to turn the Confession of a Penitent into Libells The most Necessary Duties of a Christian into Reproches ☞ and to make Repentance it self shameful and Ridiculous And This is the Disingenuous Dealing of Mr. Bagshaw which if it were not menaged with a large Proportion of Simplicity were indeed Unpardonable he would not otherwise have argued as if the speaking of Truth were a Discredit to my Testimony I suppose it needless to desire the Readers Notice that in his 7 th Page he resolves not to Defend himself and Page 9. he sayes he has done it without saying any thing of Himself Between [H] E. B. Pag. 7. 8. But My Lord how careless soever I am of securing my own Fame yet in zeal to the Publick Honour and Faith of our Nation I must take leave to say this that for any to dedicate a Book to ●our Lordship who are by your place the great Conservator of our Laws and in it presume to break that very Law which His Majesty hath appeared to be most tender of and that so openly as to revive the mention of our War under the Title of Rebellion to call the Lords and Commons then assembled in Parliament a Company of Schismaticks and Rebels and with them to asperse the whole City of London who either never intentionally forfeited or else have Nobly redeemed the mistake of their Loyalty This my Lord is an insolence of so infectious a Nature that if your Lordship doth not suppress it men who love their Honours above their Lives will not think themselves fairly dealt with For I must leave it to your Lordship to judge how little security we may expect from any of our old Laws and how little Obedience can justly be exacted unto the New ones if in the fa●●of the wo●ld and with 〈◊〉 Lordships Privity ●ay under your Protection our la●e Magna Charta can be in the very Terms and Design of it so apparently violated If Mr. Bagshaw were as Zealous for the Honour of the Publique R. L'S as he is Careless of securing his own Fame This Nation would not afford a better Subject or Pa●riote ' Bare him but his Mistakes He writes my Lord Chancellour The Great Conservatour of our Laws by his Place That 's his Errour For the Chancellour is the Conservatour of the King's Conscience and the great Moderatour of the Positive and Li●eral Rigour of the Law according to the more Favourable Dictate of Pi●us Equity This for his Instruction Betwixt Zeal and Ignorance in a Sawcy Menacing fashion he does as good as tell my Lord that He had best do Justice upon L'Estrange for if he does not there are men of Honour and so forth My Crime it seems is the Dedication of a Bo●k in Contempt of the Act of Oblivion I Call the Late Warr a Rebellion he sayes 'T is right I do so and the Rebels Names are Excepted in the Act it self He will have it too that I call the Lords and Commons Assem●led in Parliament a Company of Schismaticks and Rebels Herein Memento Pag. 65. 250. is Mr. Bagshaw which is a Miracle as good as his Profession that is exceeding Careless of his Fame for I say no such thing Our LEGIONS of the Reformation say I were raised by CERTAIN Rebellious Lords and Commons That SOME such there were Mem. Pag. 65. the very Act Allows In Page 250. I cannot find what he means unless my calling of The Covenant a Rebellious League and in That Expression I suppose This Parliament will warrant me The Gentleman brands me next for Aspersing the whole City of London My Words are that the Faction was Seconded by the City of London which Expression refers to a Powerful and Leading Party in it which
and Prophaneness more then in all other Reformed Churches Doth not the Root of These Disorders proceed from the Bishops and their adherents We have chosen rather to subjoyn by way of Appendix Ibid. Pag. 68. and Historical Narration of those bitter fruits Pride Rebellions Treason Unthankefulness c. which have Issued from Episcopacy while it hath stood under the continued influences of Sovereign Goodness Here 's Presbyterian Gratitude for his Majefties Declaration from Breda See now a seasonable and Modest Quaere Covenanters Plea Pag. 52. Whether the Lords and Commons of England assembled in Parliament have not a power to make a new Oath and impose it upon the People unless the King first consent Now see Gelaspies D●spute against the English Popish Ceremonies a Book formerly condemn'd by the Secret Counsel in Scotland to be burnt by the Hand of the Common Hang-man and now lately Published by Philip Chetwynd In his Epistle to the R●form'd Churches Thus. Pag. 9. 1. Be not deceived to think that they who so eagerly press this Course of Conformity have any such end as Gods Glory or the Good of his Church and profit of Religion 2. Let not the pretence of Peace and Unity cool your fervour Pag. 11. or make you spare to oppose your selves unto those Idle and Idolized Ceremonies against which we dispute 3. If once you yield to these English Ceremonies think not that thereafter you can keep your selves back fr●m any greater evils Pag. 16. or grosser corruptions which they draw after them Ibid. Pag. 20. 4. Among the Laws of Solon there was one which pronounced him defamed and unhonest who in a Civil uproar among the Citizens sitteth still a Looker on and Neuter much more deserve they to be so accompted of who s●un to m●ddle with any controversie which disquieteth the Church wher●as they should labour to win the Adv●rsaries of the Truth and if they prove obstinate to defend and propugne the Truth against th●m Pag. 245. 5. Whensoever you may omit that which Princes enjoyn without violating the Law of Charity you are not holden to obey them for the Majesty of Princely Authority Pag. 266. 6. The Lawfulness of our conforming unto the Ceremonies in question can be no way warranted by any Ordinance of the Supream Magistrate or any Power which he hath in things Spiritual or Ecclesiastical Here 's first the very Intention of Authority uncharitably D●fam'd Secondly the People Animated to Disobedience In the Third place Here 's a Jelousie injected of more Mischeives to follow Fourthly Not only Argument but Violen●e it self not obscurely Encouraged Fifthly Here 's the King's Prerogative render'd dependent upon the Good Pleasure of his People And Lastly here 's an Absolute denyal of his Majestie 's Supreme Authority The same Things over again are Mainteyned in The Old Non-conf●rmist The Tryal of the English Lyturgy Mr. Crofton 's Pamphlets The Interest of England The Presbyterian Accompt from the Savoy Their Petition for Peace and Their Two Pap●rs of Proposals Mr. Bagshaw 's Treatises and final●y Where not See next Mr. Watson's Word of Comfort of but the other day Now saith he because the Church of God appears in his Cause and loseth Blood in his Quarrel Pag. 8. therefore God is in the midst of Her This was Calculated for Corbet and Berkstead c. Take h●ed of Idolatry yea and of Superstition too Pag. 28. which is a Bridge leading ov●r to it Superstition is an intermixing our fancies and inv●ntions with Divine Institutions 't is an Affront offer'd to God as if he were not wise enough to appoint the manner of his own Worship Is not God upon the Threshold of his Temple ready to fly Pag. 30. Are not the Shadows of the Evening Stretch●d ou● And may we not fear the Sun-setting of the Gospel And again The Lord may let his Church be a while under Hatches Pag. 39. to Punish her security and to awak●n her out of her slumbering fits yet surely the storm will not continue long What can This Gentleman mean here now by Superstition but the Rites of the Church What by the Sun-setting of the Gospel but the Approaching settlement of Conformity And what by the short continuance of the Storm but the speedy Subversion of The Present Authority And in Truth their Pulpits do Generally speak the same Language Christians says Mr. Jenkins some five weeks since you do not know what God has Reserv'd to be done For you and BY you only wait the Lord's Leisure David had Sauls life in his Power but far be it from him he would not say to lift up his hand against the Lord 's Anointed but to anticipate God's time Who knows but the Lord may smite him or he may descend into the Battle and fall by the Edge of the Sword Look behind ye and ye must All confesse that God has relieved ye in your distresses when ye have most desponded In short he might as well have said to his Congregation Remember the last Turn and Rely upon Another Nor is This any Uncharitable Glosse upon his Meaning who may very well be suspected to be no great Friend to the Son having Publiquely absolv'd the Nation of the Bloud of the Father Observe now in the Last Place how Bold the Presse is with the King's Cause and Authority When as a part of the Legislative Power resides in the Two Houses Interest of Eng. Pag. 49. as also a Power to redresse Grievances and to call into Question all Ministers of State and Justice and all Subjects of whatsoever degree in case of Delinquency it might be thought that a Part of the Supreme Power doth reside in them though they have not the honorary Title Here is Coordination asserted which is Destructive of the King 's Imperial Title Hear now the Publishers of the Speeches of some of the late King's Judges viz. Harrison Carew c. In his Praeface to the Reader He calls them the Servants of Christ and Publishes the Story as he sayes that men may see what it is to have an Interest in Christ ☞ in a dying hour and to be faithful to his Cause If These People Suffered for God's Cause by what Authority did They Act that put them to Death Pag. 11. Mr. Carew could have Escap'd he sayes but would not knowing how much the Name and Glory of God was concern'd in his Faithful Witness to the Cause of Christ for which he was in Bonds In another Place a Letter is pretended to be written to a Christian Friend by Mr. Justice Cook I look upon it as the most Noble and High Act of Justice Pag. 41. that our Story can Parallel and so far as I had a hand in it never any one Action in all my life comes to my mind with lesse Regret or Trouble of Conscience then that does for the Bloud must ly upon Him meaning the King or upon the Parliament More of This Stuffe there is but it would be too tedious Proceed now to the Narrative of John James If there hath been any undue Combination against this poor man Praeface if for some Reason of State rather then for any real Guilt on his part he was made an Example if his Judgment and Conscience rather then any Just Crime were the cause of his Condemnation as he so often declared if su●mitting to a Tryal by the Word of God he was judged contrary thereto the Lord in his due time will Manifest and his Bloud will most certainly be required c. And again He was Tryed in so high a Court Pag. 36. there being sev●ral Judg●s before him and four of the King's Counsellours besides the Atturny and Solicitour General pleading against him to take away his Life and a Jewry of Knights and Gentlemen all of the same spirit thirsting after his Bloud c. Take now for a Close the Miserable Madness of another Pamphlet against the King's Proclamation Prohibiting Conven●icles Oh it is sad to Consider that the Proclamation of a poor Worm should not only Command mens persons Loud Call Pag. 16. ●ut their very Spirits also If any King or Powers dare off●r to intrench on men's Consciences to their utmost Peril be it and if men give way to their Usurped Authorities to their uttermost Perils be it also No Governours nor Rulers have any more Power as from God to give Laws in matters of Religion or to Rule over mens Consciences then they have to sit in Gods Throne in Heaven Ibid. Pag. 17. or to pluck him from his Throne Stand up for your Meetings and holy Services let Men and Powers Decree never so Contrary Ibid. I might Insist upon divers other Seditious Pamphlets but let This Suffice Here is the Sacred Government of the Church Vilify'd the Rulers of it Revil'd the People Animated and Enflam'd against the Magistrate Here is the Prerogative of his Most Gratious Majesty not onely question'd but Disclaim'd his Indulgence Trampled upon and the Execrable Murtherers of his Royal Father Sainted Let the World now Determine Whether it be not highly N●c●ssary that These Bold and Pestilent Defamations should be either Punished or Confuted FINIS