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A new dialogue between some body and no body, or, The Observator observed
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L'Estrange, Roger, Sir, 1616-1704.
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his own Indictment most furiously and crys if the Iuâ—y be Loyal and Honest they must find him not guilty S. He has opened his Case most learnedly and made very Oafes of the Indicters But has he heard yet of the Protestant Observator how 'scapes he with him N. O Sir he took him to be Comus and Momus revived S. Hard words what was that Comus and Momus N. It was a Iest and Earnest that for some time brish'd the Cobwebs from his back with a Crabstick But he is cruel mad at little Harry and his Popish Latine that troubles him too that he is not able to make Converts S. He lacks some of his Popish Miracles that can convert all Protestants to Hereticks Traytors and Rebels N. They have ill luck their new Powder-Plot against the Prince of Orange or the Earl of St. Paul or both is discovered and now are they angry with God Almighty for preventing it S. God bless His Majesty from this sort of People who on every hand thus wickedly endeavour the overthrow of all honest Protestants What is that Earl of St. Paul N. He is an Hugonite for which he was forceed some time since to leave his Native Country his Life being obnoxious to the French Tories where he had no hope of benefit of a Grand Iury. S. O happy England where great Men are not suffered to be Tyrants nor the poor oppressed where the Laws are open the King just and Iurors not over-awed by Greatness But what says the Tories Printer N. I hear he is preferred to attend on the Dutchess of P. into France But did you see Le'Strange's Godly Sayings S. No and yet I see most things that come out and they are so many I am fain to keep a Catalogue of them N. They are Printed in the 76 Observator who justifies him and by these notable Sayings of his proves his quarrel is not to the dissent but to the Sedition Some-body O wonderful I thought he had been endeavouring by some thousands of railing Paragraphs to be pick'd up through his Writings to prove the dissent a Sedition And I am sure more than an hundred times he calls the Dissenters not only Seditious but Villains Traytors and Plotters What are Presbyterians but Dissenters and Presbytery but a Dissent from the Church of England in some particulars of Church Government and yet this Presbytery he tells you Numb 72. Is a Monster with 20000 Plots in the Belly of it spawning them from Generation to Generation Plots against the King People and all Mankind and yet he quarrels not with the dissent Good-Man but when he makes the Dissent to be all one with the Sedition I cannot see into his distinction But what are his Sayings in their behalf N. He says Numb 69. That Dr. Gouge though a Dissenter was acommon Blessing and did good to all Men to the atmost of his power And Num. 74. That at least 9 parts in 10 throughout the whole Party of Dissenters are People of good Intentions and would never joyn in a Rebtllion And now you have the Iliades in a Nut-shell S. Are these all a little very little Book of Good and Godly Sayings of Mr. Le'Strange's and these he thinks shall attone for his Voluminous Railing Rhapsodies against Dissenters But I cannot but admire at this second part of his Sayings That 9 parts of 10 thorough out the whole Party of Dissenters are People of good Intentions and would never joyn in a Rebellion Tho this be a very great truth yet methinks 't is very strange out of his black Mouth But does not this argue the Man of a great deal of Impudence and Wickedness to condemn all Dissenters from the Church of England for Rebels Factious and Seditious Bouâ—efues when you see he knows in his Conscience 9 parts of 10 are otherwise God would have spared Sodom could he have found but Ten Righteous Persons in it but Le'Strange will not spare the Dissenters but would destroy them as he has endeavoured to do their Reputation though he believes but a Tenth part of them Wicked or Rebellious N. The Wind is veering about 't is time to record his good Sayings Towzer is converted into a Spaniel S. No you mistake the Man he is the same still he can as soon live without eating as without railing for in Numb 77. the Strange Observator falls to his Old Vomit and under the Notion of enumerating all the flagitious Crimes of a company of Traytors and Villains disowned by all but themselves brands the 9 parts of the 10 honest Dissenters with their Mark and what ever any one says in the justification of the honest Dissonters he presently crys out So said so did their Predecessors with His Late Majesty N. He has a good Memory but I thought the Act of Oblivion had been a Statute that was not thus to be broken S. What cares a Tory for Laws or Statutes so he may gain his Point that is making Protestant Dissenters odious He forgets His Royal Majesties most Gracious Declaration from Breda which His Majesty hath made good and Confirmed by Act of Parliament in which he expresly says Let all Our Subjects how faulty soever rely upon the Word of a King solemnly given by this present Declaration that no Crime whatsoever Committed against Us or Our Royal Father before the Publication of this shall ever rise in Iudgment or be brought in question against any of them to the least indamagement of them either in their Lives Liberties or Estates or as far forth as lyes in our power so much as to the prejudice of their Reputations or Mark of Distinction from the rest of Our best Subjects We Desiring and Ordaining That henceforth all Noâ—es of Discord Separation and Difference of Parties be utterly abolished among all Our Subjects c. And a little after he says We do declare a Liberty to tender Consciences and that no Man shall be Disquieted or called in question for Difference of Opinion in Matters of Religion which do not disturb the Peace of the Kingdom Upon which I shall only make one or two Queries I. Whether the Observator in making distinctions and in his Dayly or Weekly abusing the Dissenting Protestants and calling them by so many evil names and especially by rakeing up all the most horrid Crimes of a Select Party and throwing them upon the Presbyterians and the whole body of Dissenters who live peaceably and under the Protection of the King's Laws be not an acting quite contrary to the mind of His Majesty in this Declaration and to the great disturbance of His Majesties Subjects II. Whether the Observator does not act against his own Conscience in endeavouring to make the whole body of Dissenters to seem Factious and Rebellious and to render them Odious and Formidable to His Majesty and to the rest of His Majesties Leige Subjects when he has declared that Nine Parts of Ten of them he believes to be honest and peaceable III. Whether after
this any ought to believe that this Observator writes for the Honour of his King or in the behalf of the Church or that rather notwithstanding his Protestations to the contrary we ought not to think him the hireling of the Popish Faction in Masquerade London Printed for El. Smith 1681. Numb 5. A New DIALOGUE BETWEEN Somebody Nobody OR THE Observator and Heraclitus OBSERVED Monday December 19. 1681. No-body STand off keep your distance Some-body What 's the matter now are you afraid of Heraclitus's Pocket Flailes N. Ay marry am I for according to his character a True Protestant in the Modern sence or weak disputants furnish themselves with those knock-down Arguments that none can withstand them S. I see you are still troubled with the Proceedings of the Old Baily will you never forget them N. Forget them no not so soon that will eternally vex the Torys you know they are men of Memory they will remember things long before they had a being S. They are full of Revenge and Malice too if like Heraclitus who tells you Numb 46. That those Hat Wavers in the Old Baily don't deserve to wear their Heads N. 'T is well he is not a Law-Maker for then you and a great many more had been hang'd before now There be Tory Necklaces which are more fatal than Protestant Flailes S. Yes they have Irish Oaths too would decently do the Jobb if Heraclitus or the worshipful Observator were of the Iury. N. They are two Weekly Enemies will you never leave pelting at them S. Not till they leave lying and sland'ring N. And that I 'll assure you they cannot do till they leave scribling But they are Hellishly angry with Pug for averring That Iuries are judges of a Witnesses credibility S. Ay and because he cannot confute him with Arguments would reach him with a pocket Flail if he could He calls laying down the very words of the Statute a wresting it N. But he wrests it to say Iurys are Judges of the Witnesses Credibility when the L C I tells you to the contrary S. Would Her have them to be at once Men without Sence and Reason But since my L C I says to the Iury the Witnesses are intended primâ facie credible unless you of your own knowledge know the contrary the Iury may judg then by their own knowledge of the Witnesses Credibility and then no doubt the Iury may very well justifie their Ignoramus N. But Mr. Observator Numb 77. proves them credible Witnesses and makes it an Arraignment of a Parliament to believe the contrary since Mr. Dugdale was particularly recommended by the House of Commons Novemb. 2. 1680. to His Majesty to take him into His Royal Care c. and so likewise Mr. Turbervile and Mr. Iohn Macnamarra S. What an Argument is here Because they once were credible Witnesses therefore there is no possibility for them afterwards to become otherwise Because the Weather Dragon on Bow sometimes turned his Snout towards the Tower therefore he can never after that turn it towards Westminster Because there was once a time Mr. D. had not a Clap therefore Mr. D. afterwards cannot get a Clap to spoil his Evidence Because once upon a time there was a Poet that wrote an Elegy on the Usurper O. C. therefore the same Poet cannot prove Loyal and write Absolon and Achitophel or because one fidled once to Cromwel the said man afterwards cannot turn Tory and Observator Tempora mutantur And because some persons at some time Swear truly and sincerely therefore the same persons may not be tamper'd with and prevail'd upon at some other time to be Perjur'd Certainly the Learned Observator would have all men to be as much out of their Sences as he is out in his Arguments to draw Conclusions that they who will not believe these men for credible Witnesses whom the Parliament once represented for such arraign the Parliament Sure he thinks all the world fools to be thus ridiculously impos'd upon N. Nay 't is a meer Popish Design this of uncrediting the Witnesses for under the colour of asserting the innocency of Protestants which the Observator will not believe they do all that is possible to advantage the cause and to puzzle the discovery of the Papists Numb 77. S. How zealous is this good man for the discovery of the Popish Plot and what care he takes it may not be stifled by the innocency of the Protestants according to his Rule the best way to find out the Popish Plot is to swear a Presbyterian Plot upon the Government and Le'Strange N Her tells you Num. 46. Ingratitude and dulness will be for ever Characteristicks of Whiggism Ingrateful the Whigs are not to believe the Witnesses that swore against the Papists and dull that will not understand the Observators Arguments to prove them credible S. If Ingratitude and Dulness be the Whigs character Lying and Perjury seems to be as greatmarks of Torism If the Tories have all the Wit let the Whigs be content with their dul honesty so they have Sence enough to defend themselves from their adversaries rage and malice N. The Observator is a most prying man diligent in his Vocation he 'll meet with you for it S. Not in Moor-fields nor at Madam Creswels He is a diligent Observator indeed Dick Ianeway cannot tell the world in his Intelligence of a Bawds being Convicted but he makes his Observations upon it and chews it as if he lov'd Bawdry and still remembers his old haunts and what he could have done Mark some more of Roger's Pious Sayings or Apothegms 'T is an unknown deal of mony that good Woman has got by the way of True Protestant Concupiscence Numb 78. What a sweet breath he has she was no Bawd then for a Tory. Mark his next Godly Sentence Moor fields stands in so pleasant an Air and there 's the finest walk for Meditation from a Wench to a Sacrament ibid. You may perceive what Meditations this man used to have he speaks so feelingly N. He cares not what he says against the Whigs he would have no body talk baudy jeer nor play the fool or Buffoon but himself S. I know he complains foully Num. 78. What a thing it is to see one Gospelling it in the Pulpit one day and Buffooning it in a Comus and Momus another To see the same person acting Christ upon his Throne to his Congregation in a Conventicle and Mimic on the Stage to the Multitude in a Libellous Courant To see a Teacher of the Gentiles go recking from the Stews to the Holy Table and at the same time declaiming against Sensuality and Prophaneness Are not these good and Pious Sayings N. It would do well to collect them for the assentors sayings but where 's the hurt of all this S. None at all But he secretly would wound the Dissenting Ministers as guilty of this some of which he supposes write the Protestant Observator and the Courant But we know the man