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A10609	A remonstrance: or plaine detection of some of the faults and hideous sores of such sillie syllogismes and impertinent allegations, as out of sundrie factious pamphlets and rhapsodies, are cobled vp together in a booke, entituled, A demonstration of discipline wherein also, the true state of the controuersie of most of the points in variance, is (by the way) declared.	Sutcliffe, Matthew, 1550?-1629, attributed name.	1590 (1590)	STC 20881; ESTC S115774	171,783	224

charge wherewith they are credited or Officials for the offices they beare are most Christian names else why doe themselues so often call their Tetrarches Church officers a name not founde in Scripture neither discipline in their sense nor classis nor prouincial or nationall Synode As for the pillar the Minor leaneth vpon to proue their offices and practise to be deriued from Antichrist it is weake and vnstable viz. All founded vpon the Canon lawe is grounded vpon a dunghill Some dunghill scholler made this Minor to diminish and detract from the authorized Canons of the Church vnder the odious name of the Popes lawe For the Canon lawe which is reteined with vs is nothing but the olde Canons of the Primitiue Church and such other approoued Iudicials in matters Ecclesiasticall as be neither contrarie to the prerogatiue royall nor to the lawes and statutes of the Realme and which had bene vsed before the making of that acte of Parliament 25. H. 8. are therefore since by diuerse actes in K. Ed. 6. daies and in her Maiesties honoured with the name of the kings Ecclesiastical lawes and the Ecclesiasticall lawes of this Realme and they are in like sorte vsed in the Ecclesiasticall Consistories of most of the reformed Churches in Germanie as they are here who doe as litle esteeme the Pope as we can doe Neither are some of those which were set downe by the Popes authoritie therefore vsed of vs as binding this Realme in respect of the ordeiner any more then Italy Fraunce or Spaine be said to acknowledge the authoritie of the Romane emperours ouer them for vsing the ciuill lawes For we doe therefore onely practise them because they concurre with the former statute enacting them and being set downe by good aduise are found equal and profitable Those who disdaine them in respect of the author doe shewe therein as witlesse curiositie as if they would vrge vs to abandon all printing because it was deuised first at Harlem by a Papist or ceasse to defende our selues with gunnes for that a Monke inuented them But if the matter retained displease them as not conuenient nor according to rules of equitie let all the wisest of them take all the seuerall cases propounded throughout that lawe and giue diuerse or cleane contrarie decisions to that which is there giuen and they shall thereby easily finde themselues either ridiculous absurde or vniust lawgiuers The most of them are such as haue happened may happen in Church gouernment If they can finde the decision of them in the worde of God directly we will then abandon all other Canons and onely followe theirs The Church may not be without lawes in externall gouernment and to referre all to the gouernours will were a steppe to all tyrannie and insolencie As for the slaunder to call Christian Magistrates or once to compare them to maisters of the stewes they being the Ecclesiasticall lawes of this Realme is a more filthie and beastly phrase of speech Aconitum spunia Cerberi then Cerberus the hound of hell could spewe But we are too wel acquainted with these fowle blasphemous mouthes it is but sutable to the opinion they cary of the supreme Christian Magistrates and of their lawes Ecclesiasticall or Common The 4. Demonstration They that being inferiors doe tyrannize ouer their superiors Demonstration ought not to rule the Church but such as they doe tyrannize ouer the ministers to whom they are inferiours by the Canon lawe ergo they ought not to rule the Church This is not the issue in question Remonstrance for we say not that they are to rule the Church but are ministers of iustice according to the ordinances of the Church The Maior is not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 yet true so long as they doe tyrannize ouer their superiours they ought not to rule the Church To the Minor therefore They who execute their office with correspondence to their dutie and according to lawes doe not tyrannize neither are they in place of iustice inferiour but are inferiour 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in respect of the dignitie of the office of the ministerie But this office of ministerie doth not alwaies worthie the person aboue euery calling though not so sacred else should euery ministers person be aboue any Lorde or the Prince himselfe that chiefly dealeth but in matters of this life Besides surrogatus sapit naturam surrogantis If then the bishop who doth appoint them be aboue an ordinarie minister then are they also In place of iustice a meane Gentleman is superiour to a Duke conuented and so is a poore Constable in matters of his office by reason of them who giue the authoritie and whose persons they beare But thus we turne it home againe vpon themselues They that being inferiours doe gouerne the superiours according to their owne will Retortion without any direction of lawes they doe proudly tyrannize and consequently neither are to rule the Church nor in the Church But your Lay elders being of inferiour calling as your selues confesse to your Pastors and Doctors and much more to the whole Congregation doe gouerne them euen to the displacing or censuring them according to their owne wils and discretions without all direction of lawes which is tyrannie and their platformes doe abrogate all lawes but of their owne making which are not yet framed and in deede experience teacheth that their Consistories will not willingly tie themselues to any set lawes in their gouernment which maketh their decrees concerning diuers persons where the matter neuerthelesse is the selfe same to be so diuers and contrarie ergo Your laie elders doe proudly tyrannize and so neither are to rule the Church nor in the Church The 5. Demonstration They who liue by the faults of men are not fit to rule the Church Demonstration But all Chancellors Officials Commissaries doe so Ergo To the Maior It is very false if it bee meant per accidens to liue by faults Remonstrance as here it must needs be for in this sort doe all iudges iudiciall officers and ministers hauing fees liue by the wrong that the one partie doth to the other So the clerkes of the crowne of gaole deliuerie and of peace doe liue by the pleas against traitors murderers felons and other malefactors c. and yet lawfull in the common weale why not the like in the Church Nemo militat proprijs stipendijs To the Minor O rash and temerarious iudgement What art thou that iudgest an other mans seruant you may remember Horace saying Mendax infamia terret Quem nisimendosum mendacem They do not liue but by honest fees though they grew by occasion of faults as the least part of them in deed doth if any doe and therefore the Minor very false and slaunderous The matters whereupon their fees doe rise are either beneficiall tending to the title and maintenance of the ministerie or testamentarie tending to the performance of the deads will or

as he sayeth beeing a Presbyteriall man and further if there were nothing else by as good reason may our Bishops meddle in ciuill iurisdiction Retortion being Ecclesiasticall men as your prophane Laye elders intermeddle with Ecclesiasticall iurisdiction being ciuill men or Lay men Is not this a good and lawful conuersion Some ciuill Magistrate lawfully is an Ecclesiastical person and gouernour ergo some Ecclesiasticall person and gouernour lawfully is a ciuill Magistrate or if some may be so what prerogatiue for one is there more then for some other But stay a while the Demonstrator meaneth to skirmish with him selfe with ob and so The 1. Obiection Cyprian saith Demonstration lib. 1. epist 3. ad Cornelium Neither haue heresies and schismes risen of any other occasions then that the Priest of God is not obeied nor one Priest for the time nor one Iudge in steede of Christ thought vpon c. Answere This place is alledged for the Pope but it serueth for euery Bishop This place is else-where in Cyprian making for the superioritie of Bishops Remonstrance with reply Lib. 4. ep 9. But this answere cutteth their owne throate If for euery bishop ergo it serueth for the superioritie of our bishops which Cyprian in writing being a bishop and superiour ouer others would neither in him selfe nor other bishops of whom he also speaketh condemne The 2. Obiection The authoritie of the Archbishop preserueth vnitie Demonstration Answere Cyprian li. 4. ep 9. saith vnitie is preserued by the agreement of Bishops that is Ministers He speaketh of the vnitie of the Catholike Church Remonstrance with reply Lib. 1. ep 3. Bishops with Cyprian are not ordinarie Ministers you may not take these in signification 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 all one But admitte it were so as it is not so in Cyprian Doeth this reason holde being the very like Vnitie is preserued by concorde and amitie of burgesses or commons of a Towne ergo not by the Magistrate or peaceable Maior of the Towne no more doth that It is preserued by bishops ergo not by Archbishops The 3. Obiection It compoundeth controuersies that would growe to many heades Demonstration Answere Cyprian saith lib. 1. ep 13. the companie of Elders is the glew of mutual concorde Demon. citeth 13. ca. 1. li. whereas there are but 12. editi Basil that if any be author of heresie the other should helpe Cyprian vseth in the former allegation lib. 1. ep 3. glutine sacerdotum The Church is framed and made fast with the glewe of priestes And also li. 3. ep 13. Corpus sacerdotum concordiae mutuae glutine the bodie of the priest If the word were Elders Remonstrance with replie the helpe of Elders meaning the Priestes lieth not as a barre to exclude the helping hands of bishops who are in degree higher then the priestes or of the Archbishop who is highest of them all for if concord of mindes make them to agree superioritie of order will with-hold them from disagreeing The 4. Obiection Ierom vpon Titus 1. saith that in the beginning a Bishop and a Priest Demonstration meaning a teaching Elder were all one but when one said I am of Paul I am of Apollos it was decreed one should beare rule ouer all the rest Answere From the beginning it was not so Tertullian contra That is true whatsoeuer is first c. and Hierom ibidem saith that this auctoritie was by custome and not by Gods institution If it had bene the best way to take away diuisions the Apostles in whose time controuersies did arise would haue taken the same order This is called preuarication or collusion Remonstrance with reply Epist ad Euagr. to oppose your selues a litle gentler and make the obiection weaker to fortifie your selues He that will make a rod for himselfe will make it of feathers If you would haue alledged out of Hierome the Epistle ad Euagr. would haue fitted your turne better where S. Hierome saith It was not onely decreed but decreed in all the worlde that one of the priestes being chosen should be set ouer or aboue all the rest this then you confesse was so but from the beginning it was not so Our Sauiour speaketh of matter of diuorce This text is brauely applied and that of Tertullian for matter of doctrine to a manner of discipline is in the like sorte applied But to the point of the argument Because S. Hierom is made to puritanize with you and this allegation is the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to kill vs withall not to withstand Hierome but to vnderstand Hierome the best expounder of himselfe we plainely graunt that Bishop and Priest were once for a short time all one donec Ecclesia reciperet complemētum as Ambrose saith till the church were brought to a perfection so once there were no Deacons which yet derogateth nothing from them But yet not so all one that by the institution of God they were to continue all one and might not be changed or that in the Apostles time they were not foorthwith changed sith in the Apostles time I am of Paul I am of Cephas was the occasion of the change and that for rooting out of schisme and composing of strifes as in sending from Antioch to Ierusalem was the verie chiefe ende and purpose of the change and finally the decree of all the worlde for the ratifying of a standing superioritie was the approbation of the change as Hierome thinketh who being but a Priest or Minister himselfe though there he laboureth to debase the Bishop as much as he could yet by the pregnant light is forced to confesse such a decree though in truth it be not likely any such generall decree was positiuely made through all the worde otherwise then the imitation of such Churches by a secrete and vniuersall consent as the Apostles had planted and such a decree we will graunt Me thinketh I heare one of you reason as strongly thus In the beginning Kings were Priestes Absurditie of the obiection kingdome and priesthood were ioined in one ergo Kings and Priests must so remaine and continue all one Or in the beginning such was their simplicitie Great Lords sonnes Iacob and his children kept their fathers sheepe ergo Noble mens children must keepe their fathers sheepe for in the beginning yong sheepheards and yong princes were but all one Or thus In the beginning there were no 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Elders for the first mention of them is but in the 11. of the Actes ergo there neuer ought any Presbyteri viz. Ministers to haue bene ordeined The 5. Obiection Caluin sayth the Apostles had one amongst them to gouerne the rest The Answere That was for order to propound matters to gather voyces as the speaker of the Parliament not for Superioritie This answere would be better iustified then with bare wordes Remonstrance with replie Doe the fathers or Caluin thinke Iames was but chosen chiefe for one meeting