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say_v that_o the_o clergy_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n have_v do_v incomparable_o more_o service_n against_o popery_n from_o the_o reformatition_n to_o this_o day_n than_o all_o the_o other_o party_n among_o we_o put_v together_o and_o that_o the_o papist_n at_o this_o time_n wish_v for_o nothing_o more_o then_o to_o see_v man_n under_o a_o pretence_n of_o zeal_n against_o popery_n to_o destroy_v our_o church_n and_o while_o they_o cry_v up_o magna_fw-la charta_fw-la to_o invade_v the_o legal_a right_n thereof_o and_o thereby_o break_v the_o first_o chapter_n of_o it_o and_o from_o dispute_v the_o bishop_n presence_n in_o case_n capital_a to_o proceed_v to_o other_o and_o so_o by_o degree_n to_o alter_v the_o ancient_a constitution_n of_o our_o parliament_n which_o will_v unavoidable_o bring_v anarchy_n and_o confusion_n upon_o we_o from_o which_o as_o well_o as_o popery_n good_a lord_n deliver_v we_o the_o end_n letter_n p._n 1._o lett._n p._n 93._o lett._n p._n 3._o 118._o lett._n p._n 66._o p._n 21._o lett._n p._n 2_o 3._o lett._n p._n 5._o lett._n p._n 86._o hincmar_n epist_n de_fw-fr ordine_fw-la lalatii_fw-la council_n franc._n c._n 3._o &_o 9_o marculph_n form_n l._n 1._o c._n 25._o not._n in_o marc._n p._n 287._o council_n tolet_n 4._o c._n 75._o 5._o c._n 7._o 6._o c._n 17._o 8._o in_o praef._n 12._o c._n 1._o 17._o c._n 1._o 17._o c._n 1._o cont_n l._n tolet_n 13._o c._n 2._o rer._n aleman_n to._n 2._o cod._n leg._n antiq._n b._n 362._o arumae_fw-la de_fw-fr comitiis_fw-la â—_o 35._o c._n 4._o â—_o 98._o goldast_n bohem_n l._n 5._o c._n 1._o bonfin_fw-fr dec_fw-la 2._o l._n 1._o decret_n ladiss_fw-la p._n 12._o starovolse_a â—olon_fw-mi p._n 2â—5_n herburt_n stat._n regni_fw-la pol._n p._n 263._o adam_n brem_n de_fw-fr situ_fw-la dan._n n._n 85._o loccen_n antiq_n sâ—eco_fw-la goth._n c._n 8._o ius_n aulicum_fw-la nâ—rveg_n c._n 3._o c._n 36._o lett._n p._n 3_o 4._o stat._n merton_n c._n 9_o 20_o h._n 3._o dissert_n ad_fw-la flet._n c._n 9_o §_o 2._o soz._n hist._n l._n 1._o c._n 9_o capitul_n carol_n &_o ludov_n l._n 6._o c._n 281._o ed._n lindenb_n c._n 366._o ed._n baluz_n cod._n just._n de_fw-fr epise_v audient_fw-la l._n 1._o tit_n 4._o c._n 8._o cod._n theodos_fw-la l._n 16._o tit_n 11._o c._n 1._o greg._n nyss_n vit_fw-mi greg._n basil._n in_o ep_n socr._n l._n 7._o c._n 37._o ambros._n de_fw-fr offic._n l._n 2._o c._n 24._o aug._n ep_n 147._o in_o ps._n 118._o conc_fw-fr 24._o jac._n goth._n in_o cod_n theod._n ad_fw-la extrav_n de_fw-fr episc._n judicio_fw-la council_n sardic_n c._n 7._o balsam_n in_o can._n 4._o council_n chalced._n auth._n collatine_n 1._o tit_n 6._o novel_a 6._o c._n 2._o justin._n cod._n l._n 1._o tit_n 3._o c._n 41._o cod._n theod._n l._n 16._o tit_n 2._o n._n 38._o lindwood_n l._n 3._o de_fw-la testam_fw-la lett._n p._n 4._o lett._n p._n 68_o lett._n p._n 69._o lett._n p