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according_a to_o the_o goodness_n &_o wickedness_n of_o the_o person_n we_o be_v teach_v the_o contrary_a of_o god_n though_o the_o roman_a emperor_n in_o paul_n time_n be_v a_o lion_n devour_v many_o 2._o tim._n 4.17_o yet_o he_o teach_v submission_n unto_o the_o authority_n even_o of_o such_o rom._n 13.1_o 2._o etc._n etc._n though_o annas_n &_o caiaphas_n &_o other_o wicked_a priest_n &_o scribe_n &_o pharisee_n be_v wolf_n devour_a widow_n house_n pollute_v the_o sanctuary_n &_o wrest_v the_o law_n john_n 18._o matt._n 23._o yet_o we_o be_v teach_v to_o acknowledge_v the_o authority_n of_o such_o matt._n 8.4_o act._n 23.5_o 2._o though_o wicked_a ruler_n be_v not_o to_o be_v obey_v in_o their_o unlawful_a commandment_n and_o therefore_o the_o servant_n of_o saul_n do_v well_o not_o to_o execute_v his_o bloody_a commandment_n 1._o sam._n 22.17_o wherein_o
one_o minister_n or_o elder_a great_a authority_n than_o another_o but_o their_o question_n be_v determine_v by_o most_o voice_n and_o they_o be_v all_o mutual_o &_o equal_o subject_a unto_o one_o another_o in_o the_o lord_n iu_o this_o government_n of_o church_n by_o class_n do_v not_o deprive_v particular_a church_n &_o congregation_n of_o their_o liberty_n &_o power_n but_o serve_v to_o direct_v &_o strengthen_v they_o in_o the_o right_a use_n &_o exercise_v of_o their_o power_n for_o example_n when_o a_o particular_a church_n with_o their_o elder_n or_o the_o great_a part_n of_o they_o agree_v together_o to_o choose_v a_o minister_n that_o be_v offensive_a or_o unfit_a for_o they_o if_o the_o classis_fw-la upon_o due_a consideration_n of_o the_o matter_n do_v disannul_v their_o election_n &_o hinder_v their_o proceed_n yet_o do_v they_o not_o hereby_o deprive_v they_o of_o their_o liberty_n nor_o take_v from_o they_o their_o privilege_n of_o election_n forasmuch_o as_o they_o do_v 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in_o his_o auestation_n of_o church-gov_a p._n 118._o &_o 178._o church_n plea._n p._n 94._o embrace_v synod_n and_o great_o to_o approve_v of_o the_o benefit_n that_o come_v by_o they_o but_o herein_o be_v the_o point_n of_o difference_n that_o they_o do_v limit_n &_o confine_v all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n within_o the_o bound_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n though_o they_o acknowledge_v synod_n to_o be_v lawful_a expedient_a and_o necessary_a yet_o this_o they_o hold_v to_o be_v only_o in_o regard_n of_o counsel_n &_o advise_v for_o provocation_n direction_n &_o countenance_n but_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v they_o to_o have_v any_o authority_n to_o give_v sentence_n for_o the_o decision_n of_o cause_n they_o do_v not_o allow_v class_n or_o synod_n to_o use_v any_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n or_o censure_n in_o judge_v the_o controversy_n that_o arise_v in_o particular_a congregation_n they_o maintain_v that_o etc._n that_o church_n plea._n pref_o mr_n dau._n reply_n p._n 229_o etc._n etc._n every_o particular_a congregation_n be_v independent_a not_o stand_v under_o any_o other_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o this_o opposition_n of_o class_n &_o synod_n be_v make_v special_o by_o the_o 9_o the_o h._n barrow_n discov_n p._n 190._o 191._o apol._n of_o brown_n pos_fw-la 9_o brownist_n and_o by_o they_o have_v the_o minister_n of_o england_n be_v reproach_v for_o the_o respect_n which_o they_o have_v unto_o synod_n after_o they_o mr_n jacob_n in_o his_o writing_n often_o allow_v they_o for_o counsel_n 33_o counsel_n necess_n of_o reform_v p._n 31_o 32_o 33_o yet_o deny_v the_o power_n &_o authority_n which_o we_o asscribe_v unto_o they_o and_o in_o that_o book_n which_o be_v entitle_v english_a puritanisme_n etc._n puritanisme_n chap._n 2._o art_n 3.6_o etc._n etc._n this_o their_o opinion_n be_v most_o plain_o &_o peremptory_o propound_v and_o now_o also_o mr_n davenp_n though_o he_o 226_o he_o apolog._n repl._n p._n 226_o allow_v a_o combination_n of_o particular_a church_n in_o class_n and_o synod_n and_o such_o a_o consociation_n of_o they_o as_o be_v between_o equal_n and_o be_v by_o way_n of_o counsel_n or_o brotherly_a direction_n yet_o he_o say_v 229._o say_v ibid._n p._n 229._o that_o their_o authority_n be_v not_o a_o prerogative_n of_o jurisdiction_n but_o of_o estimation_n &_o reverence_n rather_o because_o god_n ordinance_n have_v limit_v the_o former_a viz._n jurisdiction_n to_o particular_a church_n as_o his_o delegate_n in_o their_o own_o matter_n &_o it_o be_v not_o in_o their_o power_n to_o alienate_v it_o from_o themselves_o but_o the_o latter_a viz._n estimation_n &_o reverence_n be_v due_a to_o class_n consist_v of_o grave_n learned_a prudent_a and_o faithful_a man_n for_o their_o excellent_a personal_a gift_n in_o which_o respect_n their_o judgement_n be_v to_o be_v much_o value_v &_o receyve_v with_o due_a regard_n but_o if_o any_o do_v asscribe_v unto_o class_n a_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n over_o particular_a church_n and_o that_o in_o thing_n which_o he_o call_v proper_a unto_o themselves_o this_o he_o say_v 230._o say_v ibid._n p._n 230._o be_v to_o subject_v particular_a church_n under_o a_o undue_a power_n this_o he_o call_v a_o usurp_a power_n now_o then_o behold_v what_o this_o estimation_n &_o reverence_n be_v which_o mr_n dau._n allow_v to_o classical_a assembly_n or_o synod_n viz._n not_o so_o much_o power_n as_o be_v allow_v to_o any_o one_o man_n though_o it_o be_v the_o most_o ignorant_a and_o offensive_a that_o be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n for_o when_o a_o controversy_n arise_v about_o the_o election_n of_o a_o minister_n the_o one_o half_a of_o the_o congregation_n give_v voice_n for_o he_o another_o half_a except_v against_o he_o as_o unsound_a in_o doctrine_n &_o unfit_a for_o they_o if_o a_o whole_a classical_a assembly_n of_o minister_n &_o elder_n depute_v from_o all_o the_o church_n round_o about_o do_v also_o 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repl_n p._n 47._o he_o pretend_v mr_n cartwr_n his_o authority_n to_o prove_v that_o other_o church_n have_v no_o power_n of_o hinder_v a_o faulty_a election_n but_o by_o admonition_n which_o power_n every_o christian_a have_v in_o another_o for_o his_o good_a the_o special_a or_o only_a remedy_n which_o the_o opposite_n fly_v unto_o in_o such_o case_n be_v the_o help_n of_o the_o magistrate_n but_o hereby_o the_o importance_n of_o this_o question_n and_o the_o danger_n of_o despise_v synod_n may_v appear_v though_o they_o hold_v that_o christ_n have_v not_o subject_v any_o church_n or_o congregation_n of_o he_o to_o any_o other_o superior_a ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n then_o unto_o that_o which_o be_v within_o itself_o etc._n etc._n yet_o they_o hold_v 3_o hold_v engl._n purit_fw-la cap._n 2._o §_o 6._o &_o 3_o that_o if_o in_o the_o choice_n of_o minister_n any_o particular_a church_n shall_v err_v that_o none_o upon_o the_o earth_n but_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n have_v power_n to_o control_n or_o correct_v the_o same_o for_o it_o etc._n etc._n that_o in_o such_o case_n other_o be_v to_o leave_v their_o soul_n to_o the_o immediate_a judgement_n of_o christ_n and_o their_o body_n to_o the_o sword_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n etc._n etc._n but_o this_o help_n &_o remedy_n be_v weak_a &_o insufficient_a &_o that_o many_o way_n for_o i._o the_o church_n of_o christ_n do_v sometime_o remain_v under_o heathenish_a magistrate_n that_o either_o regard_v not_o the_o cause_n of_o the_o church_n &_o refuse_v to_o judge_v their_o controversy_n as_o paul_n &_o gallio_n john_n 18.31_o act._n 18.14_o 15._o or_o else_o seek_v whole_o to_o root_v out_o the_o same_o ii_o the_o church_n be_v sometime_o disperse_v &_o sojourn_v in_o the_o country_n of_o popish_a prince_n and_o magistrate_n as_o the_o church_n which_o at_o this_o day_n live_v under_o the_o cross_n in_o brabant_n &_o flanders_n &_o sundry_a other_o place_n where_o they_o keep_v themselves_o as_o secret_a
live_v to_o this_o only_a true_a form_n or_o else_o to_o betake_v themselves_o unto_o some_o church_n so_o form_v as_o they_o tender_v their_o spiritual_a safety_n &_o comfortable_a assurance_n in_o christ_n but_o we_o on_o the_o contrary_a side_n though_o we_o hold_v that_o class_n and_o synod_n be_v most_o necessary_a and_o profitable_a for_o the_o well_o be_v of_o the_o church_n be_v also_o prescribe_v unto_o we_o by_o divine_a ordinance_n 2._o see_v voet._n desp_n caus_n pap._n p._n 65_o 2._o yet_o do_v we_o not_o hold_v that_o the_o essence_n &_o be_v of_o the_o church_n do_v consist_v in_o this_o much_o less_o in_o that_o form_n of_o government_n commend_v by_o they_o if_o a_o particular_a church_n of_o god_n shall_v sojourn_v among_o the_o indian_n or_o among_o heretic_n where_o it_o can_v not_o obtain_v fellowship_n with_o other_o church_n out_o of_o itself_o or_o if_o by_o violence_n or_o other_o unavoidable_a inconvenience_n any_o church_n shall_v be_v hinder_v from_o enjoy_v this_o benefit_n of_o combination_n with_o other_o church_n in_o classical_a government_n yet_o do_v we_o acknowledge_v that_o notwithstanding_o this_o want_n such_o a_o church_n may_v still_o subsist_v &_o be_v repute_v a_o true_a church_n and_o yet_o so_o that_o we_o hold_v every_o church_n bind_v to_o seek_v this_o dependency_n &_o union_n with_o other_o church_n as_o god_n shall_v give_v opportunity_n &_o mean_n and_o can_v without_o sin_n neglect_v the_o same_o to_o this_o place_n belong_v the_o answer_n unto_o two_o of_o those_o question_n which_o mr_n can_v 33._o can_v church_n plea._n p._n 33._o propound_v upon_o another_o occasion_n i._o can._n whither_o it_o be_v jure_fw-la divino_fw-la that_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n of_o many_o church_n be_v necessary_o bind_v to_o determine_v by_o joint_a authority_n the_o case_n of_o many_o particular_a congregation_n or_o whither_o it_o be_v a_o thing_n arbitrary_a &_o leave_v unto_o every_o man_n liberty_n answ._n that_o the_o combination_n of_o church_n in_o class_n &_o synod_n for_o judge_v &_o determine_v the_o case_n of_o many_o particular_a church_n by_o joint_a authority_n be_v a_o divine_a ordinance_n and_o appoint_a jure_fw-la divino_fw-la be_v that_o which_o i_o maintain_v &_o labour_n to_o prove_v in_o this_o dispute_n &_o in_o the_o follow_a argument_n as_o it_o be_v not_o a_o thing_n arbitrary_a and_o leave_v unto_o every_o man_n liberty_n whether_o he_o shall_v join_v himself_o as_o a_o member_n unto_o a_o particular_a church_n if_o he_o have_v mean_n and_o opportunity_n to_o do_v it_o so_o it_o be_v not_o a_o thing_n arbitrary_a nor_o leave_v in_o the_o liberty_n of_o particular_a church_n whether_o they_o shall_v combine_v themselves_o into_o class_n &_o synod_n for_o their_o spiritual_a government_n if_o they_o have_v opportunity_n all_o that_o neglect_n to_o do_v it_o sin_n against_o the_o communion_n of_o saint_n &_o walk_v not_o as_o become_v the_o member_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n rom._n 12.5_o 1._o cor._n 12.25_o eph._n 4.16_o i._o can._n whither_o all_o such_o case_n and_o controversy_n as_o be_v decide_v by_o many_o minister_n combine_v into_o class_n &_o synod_n must_v so_o stand_v as_o that_o particular_a congregation_n may_v not_o if_o they_o think_v fit_a reject_v the_o same_o and_o practice_v otherwise_o then_o have_v be_v there_o determine_v by_o joint_a authority_n answ._n man_n be_v bind_v to_o stand_v unto_o the_o judgement_n of_o class_n &_o synod_n so_o far_o as_o their_o determination_n be_v find_v agreeable_a unto_o the_o word_n &_o no_o further_o act._n 4.19_o but_o if_o any_o particular_a church_n reject_v their_o sentence_n &_o determination_n be_v consonant_n unto_o the_o scripture_n than_o that_o church_n commit_v double_a sin_n once_o for_o transgress_v against_o the_o write_a word_n of_o god_n and_o again_o for_o despise_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n and_o contemn_v the_o joint_a authority_n of_o such_o as_o be_v meet_v together_o in_o his_o name_n particular_a church_n be_v so_o to_o respect_n and_o stand_v unto_o the_o determination_n of_o classical_a or_o provincial_n synod_n even_o as_o particular_a man_n and_o member_n of_o a_o church_n be_v bind_v to_o stand_v unto_o the_o sentence_n of_o that_o church_n where_o they_o be_v member_n viz._n according_a to_o the_o truth_n and_o will_n of_o god_n and_o not_o otherwise_o chap._n ii_o the_o first_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o word_n of_o the_o law_n deut._n 17_o 8-12_a the_o first_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n deliver_v by_o moses_n of_o old_a unto_o israel_n where_o the_o people_n of_o god_n in_o particular_a congregation_n be_v teach_v to_o bring_v their_o hard_a &_o difficult_a controversy_n as_o well_o ecclesiastical_a as_o civil_a unto_o a_o superior_a judicatory_a unto_o the_o priest_n the_o levite_n or_o unto_o the_o judge_n in_o those_o day_n according_a to_o the_o quality_n of_o the_o cause_n for_o the_o decide_n thereof_o deut._n 17_o 8-12_a this_o order_n be_v also_o reestablish_v in_o the_o day_n of_o jehoshaphat_n who_o place_v and_o settle_v in_o jerusalem_n a_o ecclesiastical_a synedrion_fw-mi or_o senate_n for_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o lord_n over_o which_o amariah_n be_v precedent_n &_o these_o be_v to_o receive_v the_o complaint_n and_o to_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o their_o brethren_n that_o come_v up_o unto_o they_o from_o other_o city_n &_o place_n of_o their_o habitation_n even_o as_o there_o be_v also_o a_o civil_a synedrion_fw-mi for_o the_o affair_n of_o the_o king_n over_o which_o zebadiah_n be_v precedent_n 2._o chron._n 19_o 8-11_a this_o form_n of_o government_n be_v commend_v unto_o we_o of_o david_n as_o the_o praise_n of_o jerusalem_n when_o he_o point_v out_o distinct_o these_o two_o kind_n of_o senate_n 122._o senate_n see_v jun._n annot._n on_o psal_n 122._o ecclesiastical_a and_o civil_a throne_n of_o judgement_n and_o throne_n of_o the_o house_n of_o david_n whereunto_o the_o tribe_n even_o the_o tribe_n of_o the_o lord_n do_v go_v up_o psa_fw-la 122.4.5_o as_o paul_n once_o rejoice_v in_o the_o spirit_n to_o see_v the_o order_n of_o the_o colossian_n col._n 2.5_o so_o david_n consider_v the_o beauty_n of_o this_o order_n declare_v the_o same_o to_o be_v one_o special_a cause_n of_o his_o spiritual_a gladness_n &_o joy_n in_o the_o lord_n witness_v in_o that_o psalm_n hereby_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o assembly_n &_o synagogue_n of_o israel_n be_v not_o independent_a but_o stand_v under_o a_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o they_o have_v no_o single_a uncompounded_a policy_n all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n be_v not_o limit_v unto_o particular_a congregation_n now_o let_v we_o see_v what_o our_o opposite_n say_v to_o this_o i._o can._n 44._o can._n church_n plea._n p._n 43_o 44._o he_o seek_v to_o strengthen_v the_o authority_n of_o class_n &_o synod_n by_o the_o jewish_a polity_n &_o government_n now_o the_o papist_n to_o establish_v the_o sea_n of_o rome_n use_v the_o same_o argument_n and_o the_o truth_n be_v if_z mr_n paget_n intend_v to_o dispute_v this_o way_n they_o will_v carry_v it_o quite_o away_o from_o he_o but_o i_o think_v he_o will_v hereafter_o be_v more_o considerate_a and_o speak_v no_o further_o of_o that_o manner_n and_o form_n of_o church_n government_n see_v he_o know_v the_o most_o learned_a on_o our_o side_n do_v condemn_v the_o papist_n for_o it_o viz._n 4._o viz._n animadv_n contr_n 1._o l._n 3._o c._n 4._o junius_n 2._o junius_n inst_z l._n 4._o c_o 6._o sect_n 2._o calvin_n 614._o calvin_n ag._n whitg_n l._n 2._o p._n 614._o cartwright_n 1._o cartwright_n contr._n 4._o qu._n 1._o d._n whitaker_n &_o other_o answ._n mr_n ainsworth_n before_o he_o speak_v much_o in_o like_a manner_n to_o this_o purpose_n he_o say_v 15.16_o say_v animadv_n p._n 15.16_o it_o be_v a_o main_a pillar_n of_o popery_n to_o proportion_v the_o church_n now_o in_o the_o outward_a polity_n to_o israel_n the_o rhemist_n will_v have_v 23.2_o have_v rhem._n annot_fw-mi on_o mat._n 23.2_o the_o see_v of_o rome_n in_o the_o new_a law_n to_o be_v answerable_a to_o the_o chair_n of_o moses_n cardinal_n bellarmine_n 1_o bellarmine_n de_fw-fr rom._n pout_v l._n 4._o c._n 1_o make_v his_o first_o argument_n for_o the_o pope_n judge_v of_o controversy_n from_o the_o priest_n &_o judge_n that_o be_v appoint_v in_o the_o law_n deut._n 17._o etc._n etc._n and_o there_o also_o he_o allege_v three_o of_o the_o same_o witness_n against_o argue_v from_o the_o jewish_a policy_n which_o here_o mr_n can_n cit_v again_o mr_n davenp_n plead_v to_o the_o same_o effect_n say_v 254._o say_v apol._n repl_n p._n 254._o the_o text_n which_o bellarmine_n allege_v for_o the_o power_n of_o council_n in_o make_v law_n be_v the_o same_o which_o the_o answerer_n sometime_o harp_v upon_o in_o this_o case_n but_o junius_n clear_o show_v that_o they_o
rome_n so_o both_o do_v grant_v liberty_n of_o appeal_v unto_o synod_n yea_o and_o all_o the_o argument_n general_o both_o of_o greek_n and_o latin_n direct_v against_o the_o appeal_n make_v unto_o the_o pope_n do_v yet_o reserve_v a_o liberty_n of_o appeal_n unto_o synod_n this_o may_v be_v observe_v from_o d._n whit._n in_o his_o etc._n his_o de_fw-fr pont._n rom._n qu._n 4._o p._n 4_o 6._o &_o 48â—_n etc._n etc._n large_a &_o ample_a defence_n of_o the_o argument_n of_o nilus_n the_o learned_a bishop_n of_o thessalonica_n as_o he_o call_v he_o and_o in_o his_o maintain_n of_o the_o argument_n of_o the_o latin_n also_o and_o now_o if_o these_o appeal_n be_v grant_v then_o be_v the_o question_n clear_o grant_v and_o full_o yield_v unto_o i_o then_o be_v not_o all_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n limit_v to_o a_o particular_a church_n then_o be_v not_o church_n independent_a then_o be_v there_o a_o superior_a ecclesiastical_a power_n to_o judge_v the_o controversy_n of_o particular_a congregation_n out_o of_o themselves_o last_o though_o mr_n can_n can_v endure_v that_o we_o shall_v seek_v to_o strengthen_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n from_o the_o policy_n of_o the_o jew_n yet_o if_o he_o will_v open_v his_o eye_n he_o may_v see_v beside_o those_o above_o note_v other_o also_o argue_v in_o like_a manner_n the_o ancient_a father_n have_v often_o argue_v from_o the_o judicial_a ordinance_n deliver_v by_o moses_n unto_o israel_n yea_o they_o have_v often_o allege_v this_o very_a place_n in_o special_a deut._n 17._o to_o show_v thereby_o the_o practice_n of_o christian_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n cyprian_n 192._o cyprian_n lib._n 1._o epist_n 8._o ad_fw-la plebem_fw-la p._n 94_o epist_n ad_fw-la pompon_n de_fw-fr virginibus_fw-la p._n 170._o &_o epist_n ad_fw-la rogat_fw-la p._n 192._o cit_v it_o often_o and_o the_o like_a may_v be_v observe_v in_o other_o writing_n of_o the_o father_n among_o late_a writer_n the_o light_n of_o this_o age_n vrsinus_n 806.807_o vrsinus_n tom._n 1._o in_o expl._n catech_v p._n 295_o &_o tom._n 3._o judic._n de_fw-fr disc_n eccl._n p._n 806.807_o plead_v from_o deut._n 17._o to_o show_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n for_o the_o excommunication_n of_o obstinate_a sinner_n mr_n cartwright_n 192._o cartwright_n first_o reply_v to_o d._n whitg_n p._n 192._o to_o show_v what_o authority_n minister_n and_o ecclesiastical_a governor_n have_v now_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n for_o the_o govern_n of_o the_o church_n argue_v from_o the_o jewish_a policy_n and_o from_o that_o ecclesiastical_a synedrion_n describe_v 2._o chron._n 19.8_o 11._o which_o have_v power_n to_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o particular_a synagogue_n dudley_n fenner_n speak_v of_o the_o presbytery_n in_o general_a as_o it_o contain_v under_o it_o both_o class_n and_o synod_n as_o well_o as_o the_o eldership_n of_o particular_a church_n to_o show_v the_o authority_n and_o use_n thereof_o among_o other_o place_n take_v from_o the_o jewish_a policy_n 276.277_o policy_n 8._o theol._n lib._n 7._o c._n 7._o p._n 276.277_o allege_v this_o also_o deut._n 17.9_o with_o 2._o chron._n 19.8_o 11._o zepperus_n to_o show_v a_o divine_a warrant_n for_o the_o government_n of_o church_n by_o synod_n 709._o synod_n polit._n eccles_n l._n 3._o c._n 8._o p._n 707._o &_o 709._o allege_v these_o same_o place_n of_o scripture_n deut._n 17.8_o 2._o chron._n 19.8_o ruardus_fw-la acronius_n in_o like_a manner_n in_o his_o treatise_n 13._o treatise_n cap._n 7._o with_o c._n 13._o of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n &_o the_o government_n thereof_o to_o teach_v how_o the_o more_o weighty_a controversy_n be_v to_o be_v bring_v from_o synagogue_n and_o from_o particular_a congregation_n unto_o great_a assembly_n he_o allege_v out_o of_o the_o judicial_a law_n of_o moses_n this_o special_a place_n deut._n 17.8_o etc._n etc._n to_o omit_v many_o other_o how_o be_v it_o that_o mr_n can_v do_v so_o much_o forget_v the_o practice_n of_o his_o own_o sect_n be_v it_o not_o their_o manner_n frequent_o to_o allege_v the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o jewish_a policy_n to_o strengthen_v and_o confirm_v that_o power_n of_o the_o church_n and_o that_o order_n of_o government_n that_o be_v maintain_v and_o practise_v by_o they_o of_o the_o separation_n their_o confession_n and_o apology_n be_v full_a of_o such_o reason_n but_o instead_o of_o the_o rest_n consider_v we_o at_o this_o time_n the_o writing_n of_o h._n barrow_n who_o to_o prove_v the_o duty_n of_o the_o church_n 1._o church_n h._n barr._n disc_n p._n 1._o allege_v this_o place_n deut._n 17.8_o etc._n etc._n to_o prove_v the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n in_o drive_v away_o and_o keep_v out_o the_o profane_a &_o open_a unworthy_a from_o the_o table_n of_o the_o lord_n allege_v at_o once_o 17._o once_o ibid._n p._n 17._o the_o whole_a book_n of_o deuteronomy_n and_o if_o the_o whole_a book_n than_o this_o 17._o chap._n also_o that_o be_v contain_v therein_o what_o unreasonable_a man_n be_v 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then_o abrogate_v when_o they_o seek_v relief_n by_o appeal_n unto_o a_o superior_a judicatory_a this_o be_v indeed_o a_o injury_n &_o a_o misery_n to_o prince_n &_o people_n to_o high_a and_o low_a to_o be_v bring_v into_o great_a bondage_n under_o christ_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n than_o other_o be_v under_o moses_n in_o the_o old_a these_o thing_n be_v due_o consider_v it_o may_v hereby_o also_o appear_v how_o vain_a that_o be_v which_z mr_n dau._n except_v concern_v appeal_n or_o the_o bring_n of_o cause_n unto_o class_n touch_v that_o which_o i_o have_v say_v upon_o another_o occasion_n from_o deut._n 17.8_o with_o 1.12_o &_o 2._o chron._n 19.8.9_o 10._o he_o except_v as_o follow_v i._o dav_n 215_o dav_n apol._n repl._n p._n 215_o the_o pretend_a reason_n etc._n etc._n will_v not_o help_v he_o in_o the_o case_n question_v unless_o he_o can_v prove_v i._o that_o the_o class_n be_v of_o the_o same_o use_n by_o divine_a institution_n for_o the_o help_n of_o pastor_n which_o have_v the_o assistance_n of_o their_o eldership_n whereof_o that_o judicatory_a be_v for_o the_o help_n of_o moses_n etc._n etc._n answ._n i._o observe_v how_o mr_n dau._n being_n a_o accuser_n and_o a_o advocate_n of_o accuser_n instead_o of_o bring_v any_o proof_n to_o justify_v the_o accusation_n call_v upon_o i_o for_o proof_n of_o that_o establish_a order_n of_o government_n so_o long_o enjoy_v in_o these_o country_n ii_o see_v it_o appear_v that_o the_o order_n of_o ecclesiastical_a government_n prescribe_v deut._n 17._o &_o 2._o chron._n 19_o be_v for_o the_o substance_n of_o it_o no_o part_n of_o the_o ceremonial_a law_n but_o of_o common_a and_o perpetual_a equity_n and_o that_o the_o power_n of_o class_n for_o the_o receive_n of_o appeal_n &_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o particular_a church_n be_v include_v therein_o it_o be_v thence_o also_o manifest_a that_o the_o power_n &_o authority_n exercise_v by_o class_n &_o synod_n be_v therefore_o of_o divine_a institution_n for_o the_o same_o use_n from_o the_o same_o ground_n of_o holy_a scripture_n iii_o what_o reason_n have_v he_o in_o describe_v the_o use_n of_o class_n to_o mention_v this_o only_a that_o they_o be_v for_o the_o help_n of_o pastor_n see_v both_o they_o &_o those_o judicatories_n deut._n 17.2_o chron._n 19_o be_v for_o the_o help_n &_o benefit_n of_o every_o member_n of_o the_o synagogue_n then_o and_o the_o church_n now_o as_o well_o as_o for_o the_o help_n of_o pastor_n iu._n what_o reason_n have_v he_o also_o in_o speak_v of_o pastor_n now_o to_o add_v these_o word_n which_o have_v the_o assistance_n of_o their_o eldership_n see_v in_o the_o synagogue_n ancient_o their_o pastor_n &_o teacher_n have_v the_o assistance_n of_o a_o eldership_n and_o ruler_n of_o the_o synagogue_n as_o well_o as_o now_o i._o dav_n it_o be_v to_o be_v prove_v ii_o that_o the_o cause_n in_o question_n which_o
he_o carry_v from_o the_o consistory_n to_o the_o classis_fw-la be_v of_o the_o same_o nature_n with_o those_o cause_n between_o blood_n &_o blood_n between_o law_n &_o commandment_n statute_n &_o judgement_n which_o be_v defer_v to_o the_o levite_n the_o priest_n etc._n etc._n answ._n i._o it_o be_v here_o also_o to_o be_v note_v how_o instead_o of_o disprove_v that_o which_o i_o say_v and_o instead_o of_o show_v any_o dissimilitude_n of_o the_o question_n bring_v unto_o the_o classis_fw-la from_o those_o bring_v unto_o the_o judicatories_n deut._n 17.2_o chron._n 19_o he_o leave_v his_o accusation_n without_o proof_n ii_o as_o for_o the_o proof_n he_o require_v it_o be_v most_o plain_a and_o evident_a from_o the_o place_n allege_v for_o in_o they_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o about_o whatsoever_o cause_n there_o be_v any_o strife_n or_o contention_n in_o israel_n it_o may_v be_v bring_v unto_o the_o judicatories_n there_o mention_v all_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n all_o matter_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v to_o be_v bring_v unto_o the_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n over_o which_o amariah_n be_v precedent_n all_o civil_a affair_n all_o matter_n of_o the_o king_n be_v to_o be_v bring_v unto_o the_o civil_a judgement_n over_o which_o zebadiah_n be_v precedent_n 2._o chron._n 19.11_o and_o what_o controversy_n can_v there_o be_v in_o any_o church_n or_o estate_n that_o may_v not_o be_v reduce_v to_o one_o of_o these_o junius_n in_o his_o exposition_n of_o these_o place_n 11._o place_n anal._n expl._n &_o annot_n on_o deut._n 17.8_o &_o 2._o chron._n 19.8_o 11._o plain_o distinguish_v these_o cause_n &_o question_n on_o this_o manner_n again_o whereas_o 2._o chron._n 19_o vers_fw-la 10._o there_o be_v express_v and_o general_a mention_n of_o any_o cause_n whatsoever_o about_o which_o there_o may_v be_v controversy_n between_o law_n &_o commandment_n statute_n &_o judgement_n i_o will_v demand_v of_o mr_n dau._n what_o cause_n can_v be_v except_v or_o exempt_v from_o these_o judicatories_n be_v there_o ever_o any_o controversy_n or_o any_o contention_n in_o any_o church_n which_o have_v not_o reference_n to_o some_o law_n or_o commandment_n and_o see_v mr_n dau._n himself_n in_o these_o dispute_n pretend_v the_o law_n and_o commandment_n against_o we_o do_v not_o these_o question_n therefore_o be_v of_o such_o nature_n belong_v unto_o such_o judicatories_n see_v judicatory_n be_v therefore_o original_o institute_v to_o take_v away_o strife_n &_o dissension_n as_o in_o civil_a cause_n deut._n 1.12_o so_o also_o in_o ecclesiastical_a deut._n 17.2_o chron._n 19_o and_o withal_o see_v the_o cause_n in_o question_n etc._n etc._n have_v be_v special_a mean_n and_o cause_n of_o discord_n among_o we_o why_o shall_v not_o these_o matter_n be_v bring_v unto_o these_o judicatories_n for_o trial_n and_o judgement_n as_o well_o as_o other_o and_o therefore_o whether_o those_o scripture_n above_o mention_v have_v be_v by_o i_o misapply_v or_o not_o i_o leave_v to_o the_o consideration_n of_o they_o that_o be_v able_a to_o judge_v chap._n iii_o the_o second_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n matth._n 18_o 15-20_a the_o second_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o that_o rule_n of_o discipline_n deliver_v by_o christ_n unto_o his_o disciple_n for_o the_o government_n of_o his_o church_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n mat._n 18.15_o 16_o 17_o 18_o 19_o 20._o from_o this_o rule_n we_o may_v reason_v divers_a way_n and_o chief_o thus_o if_o this_o rule_n of_o christ_n be_v the_o same_o that_o be_v prescribe_v unto_o israel_n of_o old_a and_o be_v translate_v from_o the_o jew_n synagogue_n unto_o the_o christian_a church_n then_o be_v not_o these_o church_n independent_a then_o be_v they_o not_o single_a uncompounded_a policy_n then_o be_v not_o all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n limit_v within_o the_o compass_n of_o particular_a congregation_n then_o can_v appeal_n unto_o superior_a judicatories_n be_v just_o deny_v but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a therefore_o the_o second_o also_o the_o assumption_n of_o this_o argument_n be_v deny_v by_o many_o kind_n of_o opposite_n h._n barrow_n cry_v out_o against_o it_o 76._o it_o refut_o of_o giff._n p._n 76._o be_v it_o likely_a or_o possible_a that_o our_o saviour_n christ_n will_v fetch_v his_o pattern_n for_o the_o elder_n of_o his_o church_n &_o the_o execution_n of_o these_o high_a judgement_n from_o that_o corrupt_a degenerate_a synedrion_n of_o the_o jew_n which_o by_o the_o institution_n of_o god_n be_v mere_o civil_a and_o not_o ordain_v for_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a as_o appear_v exod._n 18._o num._n 11._o deut._n 1._o the_o priest_n bear_v the_o charge_n &_o have_v the_o decide_n of_o all_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n num._n 18._o deut._n 17._o but_o this_o council_n of_o they_o be_v now_o mix_v of_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o people_n and_o the_o priest_n &_o handle_v all_o cause_n both_o civil_a &_o ecclesiastical_a indifferent_o matt._n 26.3_o act._n 4.5_o how_o 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magistrate_n upon_o the_o party_n reprove_v if_o he_o wilful_o refuse_v to_o hearken_v etc._n etc._n numb_a 15.30_o 31._o deut._n 17.12_o mr_n ainsworth_n agree_v with_o he_o in_o this_o point_n &_o say_v 440._o say_v h._n ain_n commun_n of_o s._n c._n 22._o p._n 440._o god_n command_v this_o duty_n in_o his_o law_n plain_o to_o rebuke_v our_o neighbour_n leu._n 19.17_o that_o so_o upon_o warning_n and_o sight_n of_o his_o sin_n he_o may_v bring_v his_o sacrifice_n &_o reconcile_v himself_o unto_o the_o lord_n who_o he_o have_v offend_v levit._fw-la 4_o 23-28_a which_o if_o he_o regard_v not_o but_o shall_v do_v aught_o with_o a_o high_a hand_n he_o then_o be_v say_v to_o blaspheme_v the_o lord_n and_o must_v be_v cut_v off_o from_o among_o his_o people_n numb_a 15.30_o 31._o because_o he_o despise_v the_o word_n of_o the_o lord_n etc._n etc._n again_o he_o write_v 121._o write_v animadv_n p._n 120._o 121._o that_o private_a man_n forgive_v not_o sin_n in_o israel_n so_o absolute_o 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hereunto_o and_o to_o show_v how_o they_o be_v mistake_v about_o the_o rule_n of_o admonition_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n in_o teach_v that_o man_n be_v bind_v upon_o admonition_n to_o bring_v a_o offering_n &_o so_o bind_v that_o if_o they_o wilful_o refuse_v or_o regard_v not_o to_o do_v it_o they_o be_v to_o die_v or_o to_o be_v cut_v off_o from_o among_o their_o people_n we_o be_v to_o observe_v that_o god_n do_v not_o lay_v such_o a_o bond_n of_o necessity_n upon_o his_o people_n and_o this_o appear_v by_o these_o consideration_n i._n the_o vehebi_fw-la the_o vehebi_fw-la word_n of_o the_o text_n levit._n 4_o 23-28_a be_v right_o translate_v do_v not_o infer_v such_o a_o bond_n whereas_o the_o word_n be_v common_o translate_v than_o he_o shall_v bring_v his_o offering_n etc._n etc._n they_o shall_v rather_o have_v be_v thus_o translate_v and_o or_o if_o he_o will_v bring_v his_o offering_n etc._n etc._n or_o thus_o than_o he_o may_v bring_v his_o offering_n etc._n etc._n and_o so_o the_o word_n be_v conditional_a and_o not_o imperative_fw-it there_o be_v no_o absolute_a commandment_n to_o bring_v a_o sacrifice_n but_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n in_o that_o place_n be_v that_o if_o they_o will_v bring_v a_o sacrifice_n for_o their_o sin_n than_o they_o must_v do_v it_o in_o such_o manner_n as_o be_v there_o prescribe_v and_o there_o be_v a_o double_a reason_n for_o this_o translation_n i._o the_o particle_n vau_n be_v 44._o be_v vau_fw-fr omnium_fw-la aliarum_fw-la conjunctionum_fw-la significationem_fw-la assumere_fw-la potest_fw-la etc._n etc._n aliquando_fw-la conditionem_fw-la includit_fw-la cevall_n &_o bertr_n in_o galeed_n p._n 44._o often_o and_o very_o convenient_o expound_v conditional_o by_o if_o or_o and_o if_o as_o numb_a 5.13_o 14._o &_o 12.14_o deut._n 24.1_o 3._o exod._n 4.23_o so_o the_o principal_a interpreter_n do_v sundry_a time_n translate_v the_o same_o the_o chaldee_n paraphra_v both_o onkelos_n and_o jonathan_n as_o also_o the_o greek_a version_n in_o num._n 12.14_o so_o the_o ancient_a arabic_a version_n of_o rabbi_n saadias_n as_o also_o that_o edition_n of_o the_o chaldee_n print_v at_o constantinople_n in_o exod._n 4.23_o so_o tremellius_n and_o junius_n in_o gen._n 18.30_o levit._fw-la 26.40_o numb_a 12.14_o so_o our_o english_a translation_n in_o exod._n 4.23_o levit._fw-la 26.40_o numb_a 12.14_o deut._n 24.3_o and_o to_o omit_v a_o multitude_n of_o other_o interpreter_n mr_n ainsworth_n himself_n do_v sometime_o so_o translate_v the_o same_o as_o in_o those_o place_n before_o specify_v exo._n 4.23_o leu._n 26.40_o numb_a 12.14_o and_o further_a 26.40_o further_a annot._n on_o leu._n 26.40_o note_n that_o so_o it_o ought_v elsewhere_o to_o be_v translate_v as_o in_o mal._n 1.2_o &_o 3.8_o ii_o suppose_v that_o the_o conjunction_n or_o particle_n vau_fw-mi be_v not_o conditional_a in_o this_o place_n yet_o the_o word_n turn_v into_o the_o future_a tense_n by_o vau_fw-fr hippuc_fw-fr according_a to_o the_o hebrew_n speech_n as_o other_o simple_a 117._o simple_a see_v galeed_n p._n 117._o verb_n future_a do_v not_o always_o necessary_o imply_v a_o commandment_n but_o rather_o a_o permission_n though_o sometime_o they_o import_v a_o absolute_a commandment_n as_o in_o the_o decalogue_n yet_o sometime_o they_o be_v use_v to_o signify_v what_o we_o may_v do_v and_o what_o we_o be_v permit_v to_o do_v this_o be_v common_o observe_v by_o translatour_n who_o in_o their_o translation_n of_o the_o very_a same_o form_n of_o the_o future_a verb_n do_v sometime_o express_v it_o by_o a_o command_a phrase_n thou_o shall_v do_v sometime_o by_o a_o phrase_n of_o permission_n thou_o may_v do_v for_o example_n in_o our_o english_a translation_n gen._n 2.16_o leu._n 11.21_o 22._o deut._n 12.15_o 20_o &_o 20.19_o &_o 23.20_o 24_o 25._o &_o 24.2_o thou_o may_v eat_v thou_o may_v lend_v thou_o may_v eat_v grape_n thou_o may_v pluck_v she_o may_v go_v etc._n etc._n thus_o be_v many_o of_o these_o place_n translate_v by_o mr_n ainsw_n himself_o and_o thus_o in_o like_a manner_n may_v this_o place_n leu._n 4.23_o 28._o be_v fit_o translate_v then_o he_o may_v bring_v his_o offering_n etc._n etc._n and_o be_v so_o interpret_v there_o be_v no_o such_o bond_n of_o necessity_n contain_v therein_o ii_o as_o the_o word_n and_o form_n of_o speech_n in_o the_o text_n do_v admit_v this_o interpretation_n so_o the_o matter_n itself_o &_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o ordinance_n do_v determine_v it_o &_o constrain_v we_o to_o entertain_v this_o translation_n which_o show_v it_o to_o be_v a_o permission_n because_o otherwise_o it_o have_v be_v impossible_a ever_o to_o observe_v it_o in_o israel_n the_o sin_n speak_v of_o in_o leu._n 4.2_o 27._o be_v for_o the_o general_a nature_n of_o they_o all_o manner_n of_o sin_n great_a or_o small_a except_o presumptuous_a sin_n the_o word_n of_o the_o text_n be_v if_o
in_o confound_a law_n and_o order_n by_o translate_n the_o word_n leges_fw-la order_n when_o he_o shall_v have_v translate_v it_o law_n according_a to_o the_o right_n and_o proper_a signification_n thereof_o if_o he_o have_v dislike_v mr_n f._n for_o use_v the_o word_n leges_fw-la or_o law_n and_o will_v correct_v it_o by_o put_v in_o the_o word_n order_n this_o be_v more_o than_o a_o exact_a and_o faithful_a translator_n may_v do_v he_o shall_v rather_o have_v translate_v the_o word_n true_o according_a to_o the_o right_a signification_n and_o then_o have_v give_v warning_n to_o the_o reader_n touch_v the_o fault_n of_o mr_n fenner_n in_o the_o ill_a confound_v of_o law_n and_o order_n and_o put_v one_o for_o the_o other_o after_o these_o unfaithful_a omission_n and_o mistranslation_n mr_n dau._n have_v not_o be_v afraid_a to_o say_v confident_o of_o himself_o thus_o have_v i_o faithful_o translate_v the_o word_n of_o this_o eminent_a light_n in_o his_o time_n mr_n dudley_n fenner_n who_o be_v join_v with_o mr_n cartwright_n etc._n etc._n to_o his_o commendation_n of_o he_o i_o do_v willing_o assent_v he_o be_v indeed_o a_o eminent_a light_n and_o why_o then_o have_v mr_n dau._n go_v about_o to_o obscure_v his_o light_n by_o deprave_v his_o testimony_n and_o labour_v to_o put_v this_o bright-burning_a candle_n under_o a_o bushel_n that_o man_n shall_v not_o see_v his_o light_n whether_o he_o make_v strong_o for_o he_o or_o against_o i_o let_v other_o judge_n iii_o moreover_o after_o these_o omission_n and_o mistranslation_n come_v we_o to_o consider_v his_o miscollection_n from_o he_o which_o without_o any_o just_a deduction_n or_o inference_n upon_o the_o lame_a and_o imperfect_a recital_n of_o his_o word_n he_o thus_o propound_v ibiden_v propound_v ibiden_v the_o reader_n may_v see_v how_o he_o leave_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o the_o particular_a church_n etc._n etc._n how_o untrue_a this_o be_v it_o may_v appear_v i._o by_o mr_n f._n his_o allege_v those_o 276._o those_o s._n theo._n l._n 7._o p._n 276._o scripture_n deut._n 17.9_o with_o 2._o chron._n 19.8_o 11._o matt._n 18.18_o 1._o tim._n 4.14_o to_o show_v what_o authority_n there_o be_v in_o a_o classis_fw-la or_o synod_n comprehend_v by_o he_o under_o that_o general_a definition_n of_o a_o presbytery_n as_o well_o as_o the_o eldership_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n thereby_o he_o confess_v that_o there_o be_v a_o power_n of_o judgement_n censure_n and_o jurisdiction_n in_o synod_n because_o those_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n speak_v of_o such_o jurisdiction_n and_o judgement_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n or_o ordination_n etc._n etc._n ii_o though_o mr_n f._n speak_v of_o excommunication_n and_o absolution_n from_o it_o say_v that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v do_v in_o the_o assembly_n by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n which_o last_o word_n mr_n d._n for_o special_a observation_n cause_v to_o be_v print_v in_o great_a capital_a letter_n yet_o this_o do_v not_o prove_v that_o he_o leave_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o the_o particular_a church_n see_v in_o the_o same_o 277_o same_o pa._n 277_o place_n speak_v of_o ecclesiastical_a judgement_n administer_v by_o the_o synod_n or_o presbytery_n in_o decide_v of_o doubt_n he_o say_v also_o etsi_fw-la authoritas_fw-la communis_fw-la sit_fw-la ministris_fw-la tamen_fw-la &_o sententiam_fw-la dicendi_fw-la &_o eam_fw-la exponendi_fw-la maxima_fw-la facienda_fw-la potestas_fw-la that_o be_v though_o the_o authority_n be_v common_a yet_o the_o great_a power_n of_o give_v sentence_n and_o declare_v it_o be_v to_o be_v yield_v unto_o the_o minister_n therefore_o do_v he_o not_o leave_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n iii_o mr_n f._n a_o little_a after_o again_o speak_v of_o ecclesiastical_a judgement_n and_o censure_n and_o still_o of_o administer_a they_o by_o the_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n or_o presbytery_n which_o contain_v the_o synod_n as_o well_o as_o a_o particular_a eldership_n he_o say_v of_o they_o ibiden_v they_o ibiden_v in_o quibus_fw-la per_fw-la omnes_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la summa_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la potestas_fw-la presbyterio_n demandata_fw-la est_fw-la that_o be_v in_o which_o throughout_o all_o church_n the_o high_a or_o chief_a ecclesiastical_a authority_n be_v commit_v to_o the_o presbytery_n and_o hereby_o also_o it_o appear_v that_o he_o do_v not_o leave_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n but_o these_o passage_n mr_n d._n omit_v when_o he_o translate_v other_o part_n of_o the_o same_o period_n he_o think_v it_o not_o to_o be_v for_o his_o advantage_n to_o have_v his_o reader_n take_v knowledge_n of_o they_o iv_o whereas_o mr_n f._n require_v that_o in_o matter_n of_o great_a moment_n after_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o fore-consultation_n of_o the_o presbytery_n comprehend_v both_o classis_fw-la and_o particular_a eldership_n their_o counsel_n be_v tell_v unto_o the_o church_n that_o thing_n ordinary_o be_v thus_o perform_v in_o these_o reform_a church_n viz._n after_o that_o in_o the_o classical_a assembly_n of_o minister_n and_o elder_n it_o have_v be_v find_v just_a and_o requisite_a that_o any_o person_n shall_v be_v excommunicate_v or_o any_o minister_n call_v these_o censure_n and_o election_n be_v then_o first_o solemn_o propound_v unto_o the_o particular_a church_n who_o these_o thing_n special_o concern_v and_o so_o accomplish_v with_o their_o consent_n and_o not_o otherwise_o if_o the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o church_n dissent_n and_o allow_v not_o the_o excommunication_n or_o election_n then_o for_o the_o avoid_n of_o strife_n the_o matter_n be_v again_o refer_v ad_fw-la majorem_fw-la senatum_fw-la unto_o a_o great_a ecclesiastical_a senate_n classis_fw-la or_o synod_n to_o judge_v thereof_o and_o to_o compose_v the_o dissension_n v._o mr_n f._n in_o the_o same_o chapter_n 279._o chapter_n pag._n 278_o 279._o show_v from_o the_o scripture_n that_o in_o these_o presbyterial_a assembly_n there_o ought_v to_o be_v a_o mutual_a office_n perform_v in_o the_o same_o in_o special_a manner_n towards_o one_o another_o not_o only_o for_o counsel_n but_o also_o for_o the_o censure_n of_o such_o as_o be_v member_n of_o those_o assembly_n and_o this_o be_v also_o agreeable_a to_o the_o order_n prescribe_v both_o in_o the_o 43._o the_o kercken-ordeninge_a art_n 43._o nationall_n synod_n at_o dort_n and_o in_o divers_a other_o for_o the_o censure_n of_o such_o fault_n as_o be_v commit_v in_o those_o meeting_n or_o by_o contempt_n of_o the_o admonition_n of_o inferior_a assembly_n hereby_o also_o it_o appear_v that_o he_o allow_v a_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n in_o synod_n and_o class_n and_o do_v not_o limit_v all_o jurisdiction_n unto_o a_o particular_a church_n vi_o after_o mr_n f._n have_v speak_v in_o general_a both_o of_o the_o presbytery_n of_o one_o and_o of_o many_o church_n joint_o together_o than_o he_o come_v to_o speak_v of_o each_o of_o they_o several_o and_o there_o again_o speak_v of_o the_o presbytery_n of_o many_o church_n that_o be_v of_o class_n and_o synod_n he_o say_v 280._o say_v s._n theol._n l._n 7._o p._n 280._o hic_fw-la autem_fw-la leges_fw-la ecclesiasticae_fw-la condendae_fw-la sunt_fw-la here_o be_v ecclesiastical_a law_n to_o be_v make_v this_o be_v a_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n more_o than_o of_o admonition_n or_o counsel_n this_o mr_n d._n pass_v over_o also_o it_o be_v no_o policy_n for_o he_o to_o draw_v collection_n from_o such_o testimony_n vii_o that_o one_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n which_o mr_n f._n oft_o 281._o oft_o ibid._n p._n 280_o 281._o allege_v 2._o cor._n 8.19_o 23._o not_o to_o speak_v of_o other_o allege_v with_o it_o be_v a_o evidence_n of_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n it_o be_v there_o specify_v that_o the_o brother_n who_o be_v choose_v to_o be_v a_o messenger_n of_o the_o church_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d elect_v by_o saffrage_n now_o this_o election_n be_v a_o act_n of_o authority_n exercise_v by_o sundry_a church_n in_o one_o business_n touch_v one_o person_n and_o hence_o it_o appear_v that_o a_o combination_n of_o church_n may_v exercise_v jurisdiction_n together_o touch_v such_o as_o be_v no_o peculiar_a member_n of_o one_o particular_a church_n and_o if_o such_o election_n may_v be_v make_v by_o many_o church_n then_o may_v censure_n be_v decree_v by_o many_o church_n together_o as_o occasion_n require_v last_o mr_n f._n have_v speak_v of_o the_o first_o part_n of_o ecclesiastical_a polity_n touch_v such_o as_o administer_v the_o same_o both_o by_o a_o simple_a and_o compound_a office_n in_o the_o presbytery_n both_o of_o one_o or_o more_o church_n in_o synod_n or_o general_n council_n he_o come_v at_o last_o to_o speak_v of_o the_o duty_n of_o the_o saint_n other_o member_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v not_o promote_v unto_o any_o ecclesiastical_a office_n and_o 282._o and_o
decision_n of_o such_o cause_n as_o can_v be_v so_o well_o end_v among_o themselves_o v._o lest_o any_o shall_v object_v that_o in_o all_o these_o deputation_n the_o judgement_n of_o controversy_n be_v refer_v unto_o such_o officer_n or_o member_n of_o the_o church_n as_o be_v within_o the_o same_o congregation_n and_o that_o they_o do_v not_o submit_v their_o cause_n to_o the_o determination_n of_o any_o other_o judge_n out_o of_o themselves_o it_o be_v therefore_o further_o to_o be_v observe_v that_o there_o be_v a_o order_n agree_v upon_o by_o the_o english_a church_n at_o frankford_n that_o in_o the_o time_n of_o their_o contention_n 41.48_o contention_n ibid._n p._n 37.38_o &_o 41.48_o the_o matter_n shall_v be_v determine_v by_o these_o five_o notable_a learned_a man_n which_o be_v of_o other_o church_n to_o weet_v calvin_n musculus_fw-la martyr_n bullinger_n &_o viret_n this_o agreement_n be_v put_v in_o writing_n to_o that_o all_o give_v their_o consent_n this_o day_n be_v 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at_o frankford_n for_o whereas_o g._n johnson_n in_o a_o peculiar_a 21-73_a peculiar_a disc_n of_o troub_v in_o the_o banish_v english_a church_n at_o amsterd_n p._n 21-73_a treatise_n which_o he_o write_v against_o his_o brother_n franc._n johnson_n and_o that_o church_n of_o the_o brownist_n whereof_o he_o be_v pastor_n have_v compare_v the_o trouble_n of_o these_o two_o church_n together_o in_o the_o first_o part_n of_o this_o treatise_n which_o be_v entitle_v the_o agreement_n between_o the_o banish_a english_a church_n at_o frankford_n in_o q._n mary_n day_n and_o some_o trouble_n in_o the_o banish_a english_a church_n at_o amsterdam_n in_o q._n elizabeth_n day_n he_o bring_v more_o than_o a_o 100_o several_a instance_n to_o show_v that_o where_o any_o disorder_n scandal_n or_o offence_n be_v in_o the_o english_a church_n at_o frankford_n the_o like_a evil_n scandal_n and_o offence_n be_v also_o to_o be_v find_v and_o observe_v in_o the_o english_a church_n of_o the_o separatist_n in_o amsterdam_n and_o in_o the_o second_o part_n of_o this_o treatise_n entitle_v 73-93_a entitle_v ibid._n p._n 73-93_a difference_n between_o the_o pastor_n elder_n &_o people_n in_o the_o trouble_n at_o frankford_n in_o q._n mary_n day_n and_o the_o pastor_n elder_n and_o people_n in_o the_o trouble_n at_o amsterdam_n in_o q._n elizabeth_n day_n he_o bring_v more_o than_o 20_o several_a instance_n to_o show_v that_o the_o english_a church_n of_o the_o separation_n be_v worse_a than_o the_o other_o and_o that_o where_o divers_a good_a order_n and_o practice_n be_v in_o the_o english_a church_n at_o frankford_n the_o same_o be_v want_v in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o brownist_n at_o amsterdam_n and_o in_o particular_a let_v this_o be_v observe_v that_o concern_v the_o english_a church_n at_o frankford_n g._n johnson_n 74._o johnson_n p._n 74._o allege_v that_o there_o be_v agreement_n among_o they_o that_o the_o matter_n shall_v be_v decide_v by_o learned_a man_n but_o concern_v those_o at_o amsterdam_n he_o say_v these_o differ_v far_o from_o they_o herein_o they_o will_v not_o consent_v hereunto_o they_o will_v not_o be_v persuade_v or_o entreat_v to_o let_v the_o reform_a church_n hear_v try_v judge_n and_o end_v the_o controversy_n between_o they_o and_o we_o for_o proof_n hereof_o he_o note_v in_o his_o margin_n this_o be_v witness_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o dutch_a preacher_n give_v to_o the_o pastor_n father_n now_o instead_o of_o plead_v from_o the_o order_n of_o that_o church_n at_o frankford_n it_o have_v be_v fit_a for_o mr_n can_n to_o have_v take_v warning_n from_o these_o unparallelled_a offence_n of_o his_o predecessor_n not_o to_o maintain_v the_o like_a disorder_n or_o else_o to_o have_v answer_v these_o parallel_n and_o censure_n of_o g._n johnson_n and_o so_o to_o have_v remove_v if_o he_o can_v the_o scandal_n and_o blame_n which_o have_v so_o long_o lie_v upon_o his_o fellow_n for_o not_o answer_v this_o book_n have_v consider_v the_o particular_a testimony_n of_o nonconformist_n and_o how_o they_o have_v be_v pervert_v by_o mr_n can_n in_o apply_v they_o against_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n it_o shall_v not_o be_v amiss_o to_o add_v yet_o further_o a_o threefold_a testimony_n to_o manifest_v this_o point_n more_o clear_o and_o full_o and_o so_o to_o conclude_v this_o section_n namely_o by_o the_o petition_n of_o nonconformist_n to_o qu._n elizabeth_n and_o to_o the_o parliament_n the_o opposition_n of_o the_o prelate_n to_o the_o nonconformist_n &_o the_o scorn_n of_o the_o brownist_n against_o nonconformist_n first_o when_o as_o the_o minister_n have_v make_v request_n unto_o q._n elizabeth_n for_o reformation_n of_o thing_n amiss_o show_v how_o controversy_n may_v be_v compound_v they_o say_v 3._o say_v petit._n to_o the_o q._n most_o excellent_a maj._n p._n 3._o that_o a_o free_a nationall_n or_o provincial_n council_n at_o home_n be_v much_o to_o be_v wish_v etc._n etc._n and_o in_o a_o treatise_n annex_v thereunto_o entitle_v opinion_n of_o such_o as_o sue_v for_o reformation_n among_o other_o thing_n which_o they_o hold_v &_o sue_v for_o this_o be_v one_o 57_o one_o ibid._n §_o 19_o p_o 57_o that_o if_o any_o dissension_n grow_v or_o cause_v of_o grievance_n be_v give_v in_o any_o particular_a church_n by_o the_o minister_n or_o officer_n the_o party_n grieve_v may_v appeal_v to_o a_o particular_a synod_n from_o the_o particular_a synod_n to_o a_o provincial_n synod_n from_o a_o provincial_n synod_n to_o a_o nationall_n synod_n which_o synod_n shall_v be_v appoint_v at_o set_a time_n the_o more_o particular_a the_o synod_n be_v the_o more_o often_o for_o the_o time_n to_o be_v moderate_v by_o some_o fit_a man_n changeable_o by_o election_n that_o may_v write_v speak_v and_o pray_v in_o the_o behalf_n and_o at_o the_o direction_n of_o the_o rest_n etc._n etc._n and_o a_o little_a after_o again_o 21._o again_o §_o 21._o they_o do_v profess_v and_o protest_v that_o they_o can_v and_o will_v avow_v this_o reformation_n which_o they_o desire_v to_o be_v most_o agreeable_a to_o the_o scripture_n to_o have_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o best_a &_o most_o learned_a man_n that_o have_v be_v since_o the_o apostle_n etc._n etc._n if_o mr_n ca._n will_v not_o wink_v with_o his_o eye_n he_o may_v here_o see_v what_o reformation_n have_v be_v seek_v and_o hold_v needful_a and_o that_o jure_fw-la divino_fw-la in_o like_a manner_n mr_n travers_n testify_v of_o these_o conference_n or_o class_n &_o synod_n 1617._o synod_n eccles_n disc_n p._n 98._o with_o p_o 103._o 104._o reprin_n 1617._o that_o nothing_o can_v be_v more_o profitable_a than_o these_o assembly_n be_v so_o use_v as_o they_o be_v appoint_v to_o be_v use_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o use_v by_o other_o pure_a and_o better_a reform_a church_n etc._n etc._n and_o conclude_v that_o his_o treatise_n of_o discipline_n with_o a_o humble_a supplication_n unto_o qu._n elizabeth_n of_o happy_a memory_n for_o 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which_o a_o intelligent_a reader_n may_v not_o easy_o satisfy_v himself_o from_o what_o have_v be_v say_v already_o in_o the_o forego_n treatise_n yet_o lest_o mr_n c._n shall_v plead_v there_o be_v aught_o leave_v untouched_a that_o with_o any_o show_n of_o reason_n require_v a_o answer_n &_o for_o their_o help_n to_o who_o such_o direction_n may_v be_v useful_a i_o have_v here_o brief_o note_v what_o he_o have_v say_v and_o to_o what_o purpose_n the_o reason_n or_o objection_n which_o in_o this_o latter_a part_n of_o his_o book_n he_o assay_v to_o answer_v be_v 1._o concern_v the_o evil_a consequent_n of_o independency_n 2._o the_o ancient_a exercise_n of_o the_o power_n use_v in_o synodall_n combination_n 3._o the_o liberty_n &_o freedom_n hence_o arise_v unto_o church_n &_o the_o member_n thereof_o 4._o the_o determination_n of_o synod_n and_o consent_n of_o reform_a church_n in_o this_o matter_n 5._o the_o author_n allege_v the_o former_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n where_o he_o be_v minister_n in_o the_o sixth_o place_n he_o mention_v some_o objection_n of_o which_o he_o 100_o he_o church_n pl._n p._n 100_o say_v he_o will_v not_o stand_v to_o make_v any_o particular_a answer_n thereto_o but_o refer_v we_o in_o general_a to_o the_o writing_n of_o other_o which_o whosoever_o shall_v compare_v with_o the_o author_n word_n against_o which_o they_o be_v apply_v and_o due_o weigh_v the_o several_a circumstance_n on_o both_o side_n may_v easy_o discern_v that_o this_o his_o general_a answer_n needs_o no_o reply_n in_o the_o end_n lest_o we_o shall_v doubt_v with_o what_o affection_n all_o the_o rest_n be_v write_v he_o grace_v his_o book_n with_o this_o conclusion_n and_o disire_v it_o may_v be_v note_v when_o out_o of_o the_o abundance_n of_o his_o charity_n he_o say_v mr_n paget_n will_v fain_o have_v the_o classical_a discipline_n advance_v that_o he_o by_o it_o may_v have_v worldly_a credit_n also_o these_o be_v his_o last_o word_n usher_v with_o other_o 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produce_v such_o evidence_n by_o the_o occasional_a mention_v of_o those_o two_o place_n deut._n 17._o &_o act._n 15._o which_o he_o have_v also_o undertake_v to_o answer_v come_v we_o now_o to_o the_o particular_n the_o first_o pretend_v reason_n be_v set_v down_o by_o mr_n c._n in_o these_o word_n if_o particular_a congregation_n shall_v not_o stand_v under_o any_o other_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o manifold_a disorder_n confusion_n and_o dissipation_n of_o church_n will_v follow_v thus_o he_o pervert_v the_o author_n word_n which_o be_v not_o set_v down_o by_o way_n of_o argument_n but_o mere_o as_o a_o declaration_n of_o his_o judgement_n touch_v the_o benefit_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n against_o the_o contrary_a accusation_n of_o his_o opposite_n his_o word_n be_v these_o pref._n these_o answ_n to_o w._n b._n pref._n that_o single_a uncompounded_a policy_n as_o mr_n jacob_n call_v it_o whereby_o particular_a congregation_n be_v make_v to_o be_v 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man_n of_o sin_n with_o these_o testimony_n of_o ancient_a father_n mr_n can_n allege_v for_o his_o opinion_n that_o some_o counsel_n have_v grant_v so_o much_o and_o christian_a emperor_n by_o their_o law_n confirm_v it_o two_o of_o these_o viz._n the_o council_n of_o nice_a &_o constantinople_n he_o allege_v at_o large_a and_o specifyes_n no_o canon_n which_o he_o intend_v for_o this_o purpose_n and_o as_o for_o the_o 3_o council_n of_o carthage_n whereat_o augustine_n be_v present_a i_o have_v show_v 223._o show_v pa._n 223._o before_o that_o it_o make_v direct_o for_o we_o that_o 22_o canon_n which_o he_o allege_v viz._n 868._o viz._n magdeb._n cent._n 4._o c._n 9_o col_fw-fr 868._o that_o no_o clerk_n be_v or_o dain_v without_o examination_n by_o bishop_n and_o testimony_n of_o the_o people_n impeach_v not_o the_o authority_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n but_o confirm_v the_o order_n establish_v by_o they_o and_o that_o christian_a emperor_n have_v by_o their_o law_n confirm_v the_o 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testimony_n of_o reform_a church_n from_o ancient_a time_n they_o come_v back_o to_o the_o late_a time_n of_o reformation_n and_o say_v 91._o say_v ch._n pl._n p._n 91._o touch_v reform_a church_n if_o we_o may_v take_v the_o confession_n of_o their_o faith_n for_o testimony_n then_o sure_o we_o have_v their_o consent_n also_o with_o we_o the_o church_n consent_v with_o they_o as_o they_o vain_o imagine_v be_v these_o according_a to_o their_o order_n in_o allege_v of_o they_o the_o bohemian_a church_n church_n under_o the_o palsgrave_n the_o helvetian_a church_n the_o french_a church_n church_n of_o the_o auspurge_n confession_n of_o the_o low-countries_n of_o nasovia_n but_o the_o truth_n be_v both_o these_o and_o other_o reform_a church_n do_v condemn_v my_o oppisite_n in_o allow_v of_o synod_n to_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o particular_a congregation_n the_o confession_n of_o the_o bohemian_a church_n say_v they_o have_v these_o word_n 14._o word_n harm_n conf._n c._n 14._o the_o 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give_v by_o the_o priest_n of_o the_o church_n as_o they_o call_v he_o to_o this_o end_n they_o allege_v those_o place_n joh._n 20.23_o &_o luk._n 10.16_o their_o meaning_n be_v declare_v more_o full_o before_o where_o they_o 1612._o they_o harmo_n confess_v art_n 5._o de_fw-la poenit._fw-la p._n 241._o edit_n 1612._o teach_v that_o the_o penitent_a be_v to_o come_v unto_o the_o priest_n and_o to_o confess_v their_o sin_n unto_o god_n before_o he_o etc._n etc._n and_o to_o desire_v absolution_n of_o he_o by_o the_o key_n of_o the_o church_n that_o they_o may_v obtain_v remission_n of_o sin_n by_o such_o a_o ministry_n so_o institute_v of_o christ._n this_o order_n seem_v to_o agree_v with_o that_o form_n of_o absolution_n describe_v and_o appoint_v in_o the_o english_a book_n of_o common_a prayer_n at_o the_o visitation_n of_o the_o sick_a 11._o it_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o picard_n so_o call_v in_o bohemia_n and_o moravia_n in_o the_o 219._o the_o p._n 219._o preface_n to_o the_o forementioned_a confession_n of_o their_o faith_n that_o their_o father_n have_v appeal_v unto_o a_o synod_n etc._n etc._n where_o if_o any_o thing_n shall_v be_v find_v dissonant_n from_o the_o scripture_n they_o be_v willing_a from_o the_o heart_n and_o love_o to_o be_v subject_a and_o obedient_a to_o the_o censure_n and_o appointment_n of_o the_o synod_n in_o all_o thing_n this_o show_v their_o dissent_n from_o mr_n can_n and_o his_o people_n iii_o the_o combination_n of_o the_o christian_a and_o orthodox_n church_n in_o bohemia_n and_o moravia_n call_v by_o themselves_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o brethren_n in_o bohemia_n do_v give_v a_o clear_a testimony_n unto_o the_o truth_n touch_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n for_o the_o government_n of_o particular_a church_n and_o judgement_n of_o their_o cause_n by_o a_o superior_a ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o as_o appear_v in_o the_o book_n of_o their_o discipline_n where_o they_o 38._o they_o ratio_fw-la discip_n ordinisq_fw-la ecc._n in_o unitate_fw-la frat_fw-la bohem._n c._n 2._o p._n 33.34_o &_o 38._o profess_v that_o for_o weighty_a cause_n in_o provide_v for_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o whole_a unity_n or_o some_o diocese_n therein_o they_o use_v to_o hold_v synod_n either_o general_n or_o particular_a etc._n etc._n they_o allege_v these_o 5_o end_n to_o confirm_v brotherly_a love_n and_o concord_n to_o strengthen_v they_o in_o the_o work_n of_o the_o lord_n to_o preserve_v the_o vigour_n of_o discipline_n to_o exclude_v scandalous_a person_n out_o of_o the_o number_n of_o their_o minister_n etc._n etc._n to_o ordain_v minister_n etc._n etc._n and_o for_o the_o 41._o the_o ib._n p._n 41._o examination_n of_o minister_n before_o they_o be_v confirm_v the_o exercise_n of_o this_o authority_n be_v also_o declare_v in_o their_o etc._n their_o ib._n cap._n 6._o p._n 87_o 88_o etc._n etc._n visitation_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v in_o their_o unity_n or_o consociation_n this_o example_n of_o these_o brethren_n of_o the_o unity_n be_v so_o much_o the_o more_o to_o be_v regard_v of_o we_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o singular_a providence_n &_o blessing_n of_o god_n in_o preserve_v they_o to_o this_o day_n in_o the_o midst_n of_o so_o many_o persecution_n as_o they_o have_v endure_v be_v more_o ancient_a than_o other_o reform_a church_n have_v continue_v from_o the_o day_n of_o john_n husse_n and_o be_v holpen_v by_o the_o waldenses_n that_o be_v scatter_v into_o those_o part_n so_o that_o they_o 3._o they_o ib._n pref_o p._n 2_o 3._o be_v increase_v to_o almost_o 200_o little_a congregation_n in_o bohemia_n &_o moravia_n about_o the_o year_n 1500_o before_o the_o time_n of_o luther_n their_o piety_n love_n concord_n and_o zeal_n of_o religion_n notwithstanding_o some_o imperfection_n appear_v by_o their_o order_n to_o be_v very_o great_a in_o special_a their_o care_n of_o sanctify_v the_o
sabbath_n bestow_v it_o whole_o in_o divine_a and_o religious_a exercise_n resort_v 73._o resort_v ib._n cap._n 3._o p._n 54._o &_o 72_o 73._o four_o time_n a_o day_n to_o the_o public_a assembly_n of_o god_n worship_n even_o in_o the_o winter_n time_n and_o in_o summer_n five_o time_n a_o day_n etc._n etc._n the_o bond_n of_o that_o perfection_n which_o they_o seek_v for_o and_o have_v in_o some_o measure_n attain_v unto_o seem_v to_o be_v their_o combination_n in_o synod_n and_o that_o unity_n therein_o whereupon_o they_o be_v denominate_v their_o government_n and_o the_o fruit_n thereof_o have_v be_v such_o that_o many_o of_o the_o special_a light_n of_o christendom_n since_o the_o time_n of_o reformation_n have_v admit_v and_o commend_v the_o same_o and_o sundry_a of_o they_o have_v wish_v for_o the_o like_a discipline_n and_o order_n in_o the_o church_n where_o they_o live_v as_o appear_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o luther_n melancthon_n bucer_n pet._n paulus_n vergerius_n beza_n zanchius_n olevian_n vrsinus_n chytraeus_n pet._n martyr_n calvin_n polanus_fw-la bucholcerus_n which_o testimony_n be_v 106-122_a be_v p._n 106-122_a affix_v unto_o the_o end_n of_o that_o book_n of_o their_o discipline_n yea_o the_o print_n of_o this_o book_n of_o their_o discipline_n according_a to_o their_o common_a order_n in_o such_o case_n be_v not_o do_v without_o the_o 16._o the_o pref._n p._n 8._o &_o 16._o authority_n of_o a_o synod_n &_o namely_o of_o that_o which_o be_v celebrate_v at_o lessna_n in_o poland_n anno_fw-la 1632._o they_o being_n by_o the_o present_a trouble_n disperse_v abroad_o into_o those_o part_n unto_o that_o which_o he_o have_v allege_v out_o of_o the_o bohemian_a confession_n mr_n can_v say_v the_o church_n under_o the_o palsgrave_n likewise_o consent_v and_o to_o this_o end_n he_o cit_v their_o public_a catechism_n in_o the_o end_n of_o part_n 2._o for_o answer_v hereunto_o 1._o if_o these_o church_n consent_n unto_o that_o which_o the_o bohemian_a 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