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A44083 Ruin to ruin, after misery to misery being the distressed, and ruined, and perishing state of the loyal and faithful seamen of England, and wherein is laid down : I. their ruined state in several particulars, II. that it is like to be three or four years more before they are paid, except an extraordinary supply be raised, and appropriated for them, III. that as many ships, and thousands and ten thousands of men have five or six years pay due, if they are not timely paid, it is like to be eight or nine years between their beginning to earn their money and their being paid, IV. a proposal humbly offered how they may be paid off, all by May next, without borrowing one penny of money, V. several reasons for their being justly and honestly paid, VI. an humble proposal for the advantage of a million or two in a year to the nation in a few years, and lastly, an humble supplication for the taking off some part of the act of Parliament concerning the poor miserable seamens paying 6d the month out of their wages / all humbly represented by ... William Hodges. Hodges, William, Sir, 1645?-1714. 1699 (1699) Wing H2332; ESTC R5551 37,766 44

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a Ship of 300 Men be ordered to be Paid at Portsmouth or Chatham fourteen Days hence it may be it is ten days before the Money and Commissioners get down Now suppose these 300 Men Officers and all Gost the King but 2 s. a day apiece victuals and Wages that is One Pound a Man for ten Days is 300 l. Now suppose an Order is sent down to Clear them off to Morrow and give every Man 5 s. to Travel to London is 75 l. And pay them at the ten Days end the King will save 225 l. in a Ship besides travelling Charges and they that Live in London also save abundance of Money in their being forced to Run Threescore Miles after their Just Debts But I have often admired at the Reason of putting His Majesty to extraordinary needless Charge to carry away so many Hundred Thousands of Pounds from London to those two miserable Places Chatham and Portsmouth and now I think of Chatham Rochester and Strood makes me think of three Places Nick-named Cheat them Rot them and Starve them God grant that our Seamen and their Families be not any of them left to be Ruined there but it is very strange that a little Town or two should have more Friends to get the Ships paid off last there than the City of London should to get them to be paid here How Kissing goeth by Favour I know not but now to have done with that having almost tired my self with Writing and yet lest a great part unwritten that I should or might have written will come to propose something I promised for the Nations advantage to some Millions of Money in a few Years and it is this Suppose the Distilling Trade for Brandy do take up in one Year about One hundred Thousand Quarters of Malt and now suppose at 30 Shillings the Quarter that is One hundred and fifty Thousand Pound which by the way is a prodigious Quantity of Corn I was a going to say wasted but I will say Distilled out for Idle Tipple that our Forefathers heard not so much as the Name of and it is no wonder Corn hath been so exceeding dear and so many Poor ready to perish if there be near so much of it turn'd into Fire and Vapour that it may be hath killed more Men and Women these late Years in England than the Sword and it fireth the very Souls of many out of their Bodies by degrees if not presently as several have been but by degrees I have known many both Man and Women have shorten'd their Lives many Years by drinking so much of such fiery Drink to dry up their very Livers or Lungs and neither fear of Death or any Wisdom Sence or Reason can take off Mankind from what their Lust and Appetites are set upon and if there were an open Trade to France if we should but send a Million a Year of our Large Money for their Brandy and Wine it would be the way to Begger us in a very few Years therefore if we must have so much Brandy in England I would humbly propose That there might be a Law made to have our Hedge rows in every Field by Act of Parliament obliged in seven or eight Years time to have an Apple-Tree in every Thirty Foot of Hedges and there might be several Millions of Apple-Trees planted in eight Years time the Kernels of Appels now would the first two or three Years produce Nurseries of Trees enough and they in about ten or twelve years might come to bear Fruit and being as I said planted in the Hedg-rows need not take up an Acre of Land for 40 Millions of Trees and if the Trees comes to bear would preserve our Corn from being burnt up I mean into Brandy and it is our English Syder will make almost as good Brandy as the French and if this Plantation were but Established it would Pay its own Charge of the Planting ten times over quickly and if it was once taken up it would never be laid down again for Apples are for Meat and Drink to several poor Families in the Country and at last the very wood of the Trees if Forty Years Old would be worth for Firing when they have done Bearing Fruit five times the Charge of Planting and as I said we need not lose an Acre of Land and if any would propose the Planting of Oaks after the same manner one in every 30 Foot of Hedge-rows Acorns are cheap enough and if every twenty Foot had an Apple-tree and every twenty Foot an Oak planted the timber of one and the Fruit of the other would make the next age Rejoice and have Cause to Bless God for the Care of this which makes me think of the Old Motto He that delights to Plant and Set Makes after Ages in his Debt Now if after-Ages will be in debt to this for several new Follies and Miseries and cheating Tricks it is pitty But they should be in debt to us for several good Laws and indeed good Improvements and God grant they may be in debt to us for some good good Reformation that so Iniquity may not be our Ruin and now having writ out all my Book and made my Charge almost double what I designed by Printing so much in several Cases more than I designed and yet I could not well avoid it being only guided by the good will and Pleasure of God but wanting a wiser Head to let my Notions pass through and being always afraid to leave out my own honest Design to take in other Mens Wit so that if I should suffer for any part of it I could with a good Conscience bless God I have written every Word in the sincerity of my Heart in Love to God and to His Majesty and the Parliament and the Nation for I am not of the Number of those sensless Wretches that would Fire the House to destroy the Rats and Mice neither long for Slavery because the King and the Nation and the Seamen have been so dreadfully Cheated since we had our Liberty but I am of the honest Bishops Mind who had some Brains in his Head when they told him The Presbyterians were worse than the Papists No said he That is false For said he The Presbyterians would pull my Lawn Sleeves off but the Papist would pull off my Skin And this I would leave as a Memorandum for all those who grumble against this Government and would long for the Garlick and Onions of Egypt I mean for a Popish King that as the Presbyterian Ministers and People did Plot and contrive to bring in King Chales II. and lost some thousands of their Lives for him before-hand and yet when he came to the Crown he would not Trust one of them unto the day of his Death but hated them and ruined them and their Religion tho he was called a Protestant and had been in Covenant with God and that People yet he broke through all Oaths that he took to them and through all Bonds of Love or Gratitude and how much more dreadfully would a Popish King Ruin all the Protestant Religion and People in England if he were in Power And now to have done I Humbly beg Pardon of God and of his Majesty King William and of the Two most Honourable Houses for all that is amiss in this or me and that God would be the Protection of me and mine in and thro Christ for time and all Eternity and now to the Father Son and Holy Spirit Three Persons and one Holy Glorious and only Wise God be the Everlasting Praises Amen So prays he who is His Most Gracious Majesty King William's Loyal and Faithful Subject and the Parliament and Nations humble Servant while Feb. the 4th 1698 9. William Hodges By reason of the Author 's great distance from the Press there is some small Errata's as Page 3. Lady-Day for May-day And page 25. Prophesying instead of Professing The Reader is desired to Correct them or any other with his Pen. And the Author being not Born for himself is willing to present every new Member of the House of Commons with two Books one about the Seamens Ruin and the other Proposals for their Incouragement But not knowing which they are will leave the Books with Mr. Applesby their Door-keeper for those that please to call for them FINIS
leave all to the Serious Consideration of His Gratious Majesty and the two most Honourable Houses and lay my self at their Feet humbly begging Fardon for whatever is amiss in this or me and either in doing or Suffering shall still subscribe my self to be His Majesty's Most Humble and Hearty and Loving Servant to Command Hermitage-Bridge Jan. 1699. William Hodges Ruin to Ruin AFTER MISERY to MISERY Or the afflicted distressed impoverished and Ruined State of many Thousands and ten Thousands of the poor and miserable Seamen their perishing Wives Widows Children or Relations Sheweth THat as the Greatness of the Loyal and faithful Seamens Miseries were thrown on them after they had beaten the French so the Providence of God called me to represent the same from Year to Year in part to the two most honourable Houses of Parliament and their Honours having raised Money for them for their Relief and made two Acts of Parliament entituled For their Relief I was in hopes I should have had no more occasion to represent their being ruined but their Case being so exceeding miserable still as to their Pay I cannot as a Christian or an Englishman with Love to His Majesty and my Native Country and satisfaction of Conscience let their Distress be any longer hidden especially considering that as the Honourable Houses raised great Sums and entitled an Act or two as if it had been to pay them off it may be some will suppose that the Seamen are Paid and there being many Honourable new Members of Parliament which it may be never heard of the Dreadful Ruin of those poor Wretches I do humbly presume to represent the same in all Humility Truth and Faithfullness and if any will say they are most part paid it is against the proof of all the Ships Books at the Pay-Office at Michaelmas 1697. And if we reckon but 340 Thousand pound more for the rest of the Year and I will prove by the several Ships Books that there are several Ships have not been paid off this 4 or 5 Years and I will prove by a List of about two hundred Ships put up for Recalls at Broadstreet in August 1697. That there is above an Hundred of them not Recalled and the List shews how many Years those miserable Payments are unpaid as for Example the Tiger●Prize from the 1st of October 1692 which is six Years last October and abundance more of above six Years standing and the Suffolk St. Andrew and about 40 Ships more never paid off their Recalls since the 1st of October or thereabouts in the Year 1693 which is above five Years unpaid and that I may make the Ruinousness of the Pay to be plain to any one thar can but tell their Fingers and Thumbs to appear how much worse and dreadful Ruinous it will be if extraordinary Care be not taken to Pay them with Speed Honour and Honesty and this I would repesent as beforesaid admitting as is certainly true that the mony due at October 1697 and the additional pay arising before the 1st of October 1698. to be 22 hundred Thousand Pound and suppose there was paid between the 1st of October 1697 and the 1st of October 1698 in that Year five hundred and twenty five Thousand Pound that is but one quarter and will be 4 Years in Paying that is as many Years as I have Fingers on my Right-Hand But now suppose there be now in 4 Years more but two hundred Thousand Pound the Year following Pay it will be near Three Millions of Money in all and at Five hundred Thousand Pound the Year will be above 4 Years more before the Fleet will be paid clear off and if we consider how dreadful it will be for those many Thousands and Ten Thousands who have pay due five or six Years already to stay three or four Years more before they are paid that will make it up eight or nine Years But it may be some will say That if the first paid it may be but one with another about five Years and let the rest stand as several Ships Books will testifie of late and indeed for eleven Ships kept in Pay at Portsmouth that have between three and four hundred thousand Pound due for Wages and if there be but Five hundred Thousand Pound the year paid these Ships will take up great part of one Years Money and what must Pay the rest of the twenty Ships at Plimouth besides Chatham and besides all that are in the Rivers or at Sea how miserable must their Cases be and how miserable those many times ten Thousands of the Old Pay on the Recalls which none knows when they will be so much as pretended to be paid and it may be some will say What do I mean to be pretended to be paid to that I will shew them some Years in which the pretended Payments fell dreadful short and I do not write as many do out of Fancy or Prejudice what I cannot prove but I will prove what I write of the Ruin of the Seamens Pay by the several Ships Books if his Majesty pleases and it shall not cost him Two-pence and as to Pretended Payments the first was in the Year of our Lord 1692 That blessed Year that we did Beat the French but wiserable have the Dreadful Ruins been since for their Paying was stopped for several Months and the Ships not Recall'd for Payment as they bad been of other Years soon after the coming on from paying on Board But however in October 1692 about the Sitting of the Parliament there was a brave Show put up at the Pay-Office of 166 Ships to be Paid but after some Flourish therein the waiting of some Thousands and ten Thousands Weekly and Monthly for their Pay there was no' above one Quarter of them paid all the Year as I did humbly Represent to the two most Honourable Houses of Parliament in Print the next Year and gave away about 500 Printed Accounts to them freely but Sold not any one about the Town and the Honourable Houses were pleased to Order a great Relief the next Year in their Payment although there were abundance of other Miserie 's thrown on them of which I Represented about twenty several Sorts and also represented how and by what several Methods His Majesty and the Nation was Cheated in many Cases which I supposed if prevented would have saved above a Hundred Thousand Pounds the Year and gave away four Sheets apiece in Print to great part of the Honourable Members of both Houses but Sold none for I hid from the Seamen their miserable Miseries in the Lump that as they knew them singly so they might groan and Mourn singly without Disturbance But their Ruins increasing I humbly Presumed to Represent their Miserable Cases to the Honourable Houses in the Year of Our Lord 1695 and gave away 500 Books of four Sheets each to the Members of both Houses wherein there were Thirty several Miseries Represented and I gave the Honourable Members