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A06390	A dialogue between custom and veritie concerning the vse and abuse of dauncing and minstrelsie	Lovell, Thomas.	1581 (1581)	STC 16860; ESTC S109641	21,954	68

of Christe we Christians be and with his spirit lead The flesh we ougth to crucyfy and vnto sinne be dead For if that raging lusts doo rule and in vs mortall reign Though plesant hear a while it séem it wil be to our paine Vain pleasures of the world doo passe but their reward is sure Luk. 16 2● Which is the second death in hel for euer to indure Custome Sith dauncing is so daungerous and of sinne such a sinck Of minstrells which doo cause the same I would hear what you think Veritie Musick mislike I not at all musicions may play In time and measure if it be gainst them nothing I say But minstrelles which go comonly about from town to town Wheron their calling for to build haue but a sandy ground With vs the law of man dooth not their kinde of life maintain In sacred scripture dooth therof no proof at all remain If neither law of man nor God dooth minstrels life vpholde That it is built on sandy ground to say I may be bolde Custome A thing is quickly said but not so soon by reason prooued Prooue that you say and then I graunt minstrels should be remooued Veritie Anno Eli●abeth 14. They are accounted vagarant roges by act of Parliament What reason why they should not then like Roges to Iaile be sent The Roges doo lead an idle life moste minstrels doo the same The Roges doo beg from house to house moste minstrels vse that game Though clenly they doo cloke the same vnder pretence of sport Yet cunningly they money craue all men can this report In other poynts aswel as these I might them bothe compare Wherin they rightly doo agree but that I doo them spare Except they doo belong to men which are of high degree As in that act by woords set down expressly we may sée To such I think but few of these vain Pipers doo pertain To men so graue a shame it were fond Fidlers to maintain A great disgrace it were to them their cloth abrode to send Vpon the backs of them which doo their life so lewdly spend And as for those that shrowded are vnder the cloth of men Which haue not licence so to doo I may set down with pen. Their cloth cannat exempt them from the note of rogish name Which term is not of my deuise the act dooth giue the same Therfore if they doo think this name to sharp and hard to be Vpon the Statutemakers let the blame light not on me Custome The lawes of this our Realm I sée the minstrels vse deny Whether the woord of God forbid the same I pray you try Veritie The woord of God wil not allow men any trade to vse Ephe But that which good and honest is the euil we must refuse Moste minstrels by vngodly meanes there maintenaunce obtain What euil a peny to possesse to doo wil they refrain Their instruments if you respect they vse them to intise Wilde youth olde age which should be graue oftimes to practise vice Therby they call yung men maides togither on an heap In wanton and lasciuious daunce vnchristianly to leap On Saboth dayes which God cōmaūds vs holyly to kéep To hear and read and search his woord his honor for to séek 〈◊〉 5● 1 Euen then doo we dishonor him then doo we our own wil Then moste we practise wicked woorks which God forbiddeth still The minstrels with their Mermaides sound doo so bewitch lewd youth That they prefer the deuilish daunce before the wholsom trueth From minstrels which doo cause such evil to Church they wil not come To learn the Catachisme of true Religion the some But out of Church at Tabrets sound bothe olde and yung haue run In haste before the reading of Gods woord hath quite béen doon This to be true I dare affirm for I them not ● doo knowe Why minstrels then should be denayd Good cause there is I trowe Their singing if you doo regard it is to be abhord It is against the sacred woord and Scripture of the Lord. As fountain at one place saith Iames bothe water salt and swéet Ia. 3.10 11 Dooth not send foorth for natures course denyeth that to be méet So godly blessing to proceed and deuilish blasphemy Out of one mouth in no wise ought this sinne dooth God deny But this doo minstrels clene forget some Godly songs they haue Some wicked Ballads and vnméet as companies doo craue For filthies they haue filthy songs for bandes lasciuious times For honest good for sober graue songs so they watch their times Among the loouers of the trueth Ditties of trueth they sing Among the Papists such as of their godlesse legend spring And as with mouth they thus apply them selues to euery kinde Of men to doo the same by déeds they be not far behinde With modest men they modest be with sober they be graue With lewd and naughtie companie they also play the knaue For he that cannot give and iest vngodly scof and trump Is thought vnméet to play with pipe on Tabret or to thump The minstrels doo with instruments with longs or els wish iest Maintain them selues but as they vse of these naught is the best Sith then the mean is nought wherby they doo their liues maintain The woord of God dooth not allow that such vse should remain Custome Though thou thy saying hast confirmd and minstrels vse doo seem Against the woord of God to be yet many men doo déem That by their godly songs ther dooth much porfit oft arise For some by them instructed are how to be godly wise And sōe from that which minstrels sing a great deale more wil beare Then when of godly Preachers they a learned sermon heare Therfore if you doo stil deny the singing I may say You are an enemie to that which teacheth the right way But all men ought that to estéem with might and main vpholde Which teacheth good therfore I think to sing they may be bolde Veritie Where one by minstrels godly songs dooth learn an honest race To run ten times so many learn to practise sinne a pace Be wicked songs which they doo vse for such they practise more And we are apter vnto sinne then vnto vertues lore Again what office to instruct haue they not publikely In Church they are not of the woord calld to the ministrie Ne doo they vse the order of priuate instruction Where by all men eche other teach Christes true religion For that is fréely to be doon without respect of gain But gain remooue and to instruct the minstrels take no pain Sith publique office they haue none instruction to vse And priuate order as it should be they séem to refuse And seeing many more by them are hurt then taught aright Directly I conclude in them men should not so delight If I should graunt that many be therby instructed wel Yet that they should stil practise it ●ark 1.24 d 5. 7 I may it thus refel The

A DIALOGVE between Custom and Veritie concerning the vse and abuse of Dauncing and Minstrelsie Rom. 13.12.13.14 The night is past and the daie is at hand let vs therfore cast away the workes of Darkenes and let vs put on the armour of light so that we walke honestly as in the day not in gluttony and drunkennes neither in chambering and wantonnes nor in strife and enuyng but put ye on the Lord Iesus Christe and take no thought for the flesh to fulfil the lusts of it Imprinted at London at the long Shop adioyning vnto Saint Mildreds Church in the Pultrie by Iohn Allde To the godly and faithful Ministers of Christe and Prechers of the Gospel Maister Robert Crovvley and Maister Thomas Brasbridge grace and peace from God the Father through Christe Iesus our Lord be multiplied THe benefits which God hath mercyfully powred vpon vs moste vile wretched sinners are multitude innumerable in value inestimable so that the slender capacitie of our weake wits is not able throughly to comprehend them Much lesse the féeble voyce of our stambring tongs woorthyly to declare them Among which manyfolde and rich graces this is to be reconed of gretest price that he hath blessed vs with the comfortable wrood and glad tidings of our eternall saluatiō fréely purchased vnto vs by his welbelooued sonne our onely saueour Christe Iesus and hath by the princely authoritie of his woorthy Minister our moste gracioꝰ Quéen brought in again established and these thrée and twentie yéeres continued the same God graunt that long it may abide florish and fructifie amōg vs for all which his vnspekable blessings he requireth nothing of vs but that we cheerfully take the cup of saluation and giue harty thanks vnto our loouing Lord and yeeld dutiful obedience vnto the diuine precepts of our gracious God But alas who truely performeth these Is he a grateful receiuer which cōtemp●uously reiecteth such a bounteful gift Dooth he performe loyall obedience which stubburnly rebelleth against his Lords lawful commaundement Is not the comfortable message of our happy reconciliation vnto God onely by Christe Iesꝰ despitefully contēned of many Doo not the moste parte rebelliously in déed resist the perfect law of the Lord And how then can we be laid dutifully to render vnto our heauenly father that which in respect of his great bountefulnes he may rightly chalenge As truely as the Lord liueth vnthankful ingratitude is abbomination vnto the Lord and stubburn rebellion as the sinne of withcraft Why then doo we not dayly and hourely euen euery moment tremble and quake for feare lest his heuy vengeance terrible wrath fall vpon vs disobedient children for these and the like sinnes which wée haue vngodly committed But the holy Scriptur●e conteine a large volume and the whole law cōsisteth of many precepts so that perfectly to draw foorth and in liuely colours to expresse the manifolds and gréeuous offences which we moste wickedly haue cōmitted against the testimonies of the highest dooth require a longer discourse then I purpose to prefix or set before this short treatise Yet that we may partely beholde the euil fauored deformities filthy staines that abound euen among them that account them selues moste handsome and beawtiful let vs look as it were by a glimpse into the cleere mirrour of the p●●re woord of the Lord. The almightie Iehoua spake vnto his seruāt Moyses and gaue him this commaundement to deliuer vnto the childrē of Israel Kéep ye my Saboths Exo. 31 14. for it is a signe between me and you in your generations that ye may knowe that I the Lord doo sanctifie you Ye shall therfore kéepe the Saboth for it is holy vnto you He that defileth it shall dye the death c. Héer are two forcible reasons added to the cōmaundement to mooue the people of Israell diligently to obserue the Saboth First for that it is a sure signe of their sanctification that they being defiled by the lothsome flithynes of sinne are sanctified by the Lord and made plesant in his sight Secondaryly for that they which pollute the holy Saboth shall suerly dye These ought to be sufficiēt to cause men to kéep holy the Saboth day either for profit in respect of all worldly things incomparable or for death not withstanding all mans deuises ineuitable But wherin consisteth the right vse of the Saboth and what is it truely to keep holy the Saboth day If we wil as we ought vse and obserue it according to that exquisit order which the Lord hath prescribed in his Sacred woord we must not doo the thing that pleaseth our selues we must not speak our owne woords 56. 2. we must not doo after our owne imagination neither seek our owne wil 58. 13. we must keep our selues that we doo no euil in the Lords holy day But it is not inough to eschew euil but we must also doo good Therfore in halowing the Lords day of rest we must holde greatly of the things that pleaseth the Lord and kéep his couenaunt Esay 56 we must stick to the Lord to serue him to looue his name to be his seruāts to fulfil his couenāt to giue him the honor Now if this straight line be laid to our crooked liues and this iust rule to our vnruly behaueour oh how far out of square shall we be found For when doo we more practise our vain pleasures Whē doo we more after our owne wicked immagination When doo we more séek our owne froward wil When doo we more speak our owne filthy corrupt woords When doo we exercise more euil then on the Lords day As for other dayes euery man in his vocation if he haue any naturall care to maintain him self and his familie wil apply his worldly businesse he wil not let a char But the holy Saboth is so vnholyly spent as if it were consecrated to the abhominable idole of fleshly pleasure rather then to the true seruice of the almighty God for if there be any match made for the triall of any mastrie or méeting for meriment as they terme it either betwéen town town or neighbour neighbour or if there be any kéeping ales either for the maintenance of the Church or for some that are fallen into decay When must these be tried or doon but vpon the Saboth day If any go about with a pewter or rather pilfering game because by offering a shewe of profit it priuily robbeth men when must it be played but vpon the Sabaoth day And who more to be blamed for this then such Iustices vnder whose licence they doo it is this the way for Magistrates to showe them selues men fearing God to giue men licences wheby they may rebelliously break Gods cōmaundements them selues ●xod 18.21 Chro. 19.7 and be wicked instruments to cause others to doo the same Let such knowe that the Lord shall iustly lay to their charge that their hands haue béen chéef in this trespasse Moreouer wheras many Minstrels