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A05364 A consultation what faith and religion is best to be imbraced. Written in Latin by the R. Father Leonard Lessius, Professour in Diuinity, of the Society of Iesus. And translated into English by W.I. Lessius, Leonardus, 1554-1623.; Wright, William, 1563-1639. 1618 (1618) STC 15517; ESTC S105037 99,482 276

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Apostles or their sucessours to gouerne the people And therfore it is cleere that the Church of Christ is not with them The III. Reason From the defect of their Mission THE third reason is because these Religions were brought in by them that were sent by no lawfull authority but came of themselues and for this cause are they and their Authors worthily to be suspected of errour least perhaps they proue to be wolues and seducers For that no man may preach in the Church vnlesse he be sent by lawfull authority according to that of the Apostle How shall they preach Rom. 10. vnlesse they be sent otherwise there should soone arise a great confusion in the Church for that euery one might take vpon him the office of preaching and gouerning the Church and sow abroad what errors he listed And if in a temporall Common wealth humane Policy no man may intrude himselfe and take vpō him the office of a magistrate to gouerne the people in temporall things only pertaining to this life but that he must first be appointed therunto by the Prince How much lesse then in the Church and spirituall kingdone of Christ may any man assume vnto himselfe the office of Pastour to gouerne the people in those things which belong to eternall saluation but he that is ordained and appointed therunto by the supreme rector of the Church and Prince of Holyes For that confusion in gouerment of the Church is much more to be auoided thē in Policy when as the one threatens destruction to the soule the other only losse of goods and fortune Againe Ioan 10. he that entreth not by the dore into the theepfold but climbeth vp some other way is a theefe and robber saith our Lord. But he that taketh to himselfe the office of a Pastour in the Church without lawfull Mission and Auchority he entreth not in at the dore but climbeth vp some other way as the holy Fathers do commonly expound the place and is manifest of it selfe For what is it to enter in at the dore but to enter by the lawfull way and by lawfull authority The dore is the ordinary way and made of purpose wherby to enter into the sheepfold and wherby is designed that authority by which the Ministers of the Church are to be admitted into the sheepfold of Christ to gouerne and feed his sheepe Furthermore our Lord saith in S. Iohns Ghospell Ioan. 7. he that speaketh of himselfe seeketh his owne glory but he that seketh the glory of him that sent him he is faithfull and in him there is no iniustice By which words we are warned not to belieue them who are not lawfully sent but come of themselues because they seeke their owne glory and therfore they do not speake for truth but for their owne praise and comodity and thither do they direct all their doctrine And finally the Apostle in the Epistle to the Hebrews doth account this mission so necessary that he doth require the same in our Sauiour Christ saying Neyther doth any man take the honour to himselfe but he that is called of God as Aaron Hebr. 5. So Christ also did not glorify himselfe that he might be made a High Priest but he that spake to him My Sonne art thou this day haue I begotten thee Wherby our Sauiour did so often inculcate to the Iewes his mission to wit that he came not of himselfe but was sent of his Father and confirmeth the same many wayes From whence it is cleerly deduced that Luther Caluin and the rest of these new Doctours are not to be heard but their doctrine altogeather to be shunned because it is manifest that they were not sent by any lawfull authority but came of themselues It is also manifest that they vsurped vnto themselues the offices of magistrates and Pastors the Authority of reforming the Church It is manifest I say that they came not in at the dore and by the lawfull way but cl●mbed ouer some other way into the sheepfold and therfore according to our Sauiours iudgment and sentence they are to be accompted for theeues and robbers Perhaps they will say that they were sent of Christ immediatly as in old tyme the Prophets were sent by God in an extraordinary manner to reforme the people and as the Apostles were sent by Christ our Sauiour to cōuert the world and as S. Paul after the Ascension of our Lord who was not sent of men nor yet receiued the Ghospell from men but immediatly frō God himselfe To this I answere first it is not inough to say and stoutly to affirme but it must be proued and conuinced to be true least it may seeme to the people ordinary pastors to reiect them as deceauers for a lawfull cause as the Prophets and Apostles did not only say that they were sent of God but shewed the same also abundantly by heauenly signes Secondly all Archeretikes and false Prophets throughout euery age haue affirmed the same to wit that they were sent of God from him receaued their Authority And therfore eyther we must receaue them all or none For why should I for example sake rather belieue that Caluin was sent of God then Luther or Menno or Munzer Arius or any other Archeretike when as he can produce no greater signes or testimonies for his mission then they Thirdly if Caluin were sent of God then Luther was not sent of God and so likewise to the contray Because if two men do prophesy cōtrary things and that the one doth condemne the others prophesy and doctrine of errour and heresy the one doth so destroy the others religion and therfore if they were both sent of God it seemes that the spirit of God doth oppugne deny and ouerthrow it selfe destroying by one what he had built by another But amongst the Prophets truly sent by God there hath alwaies bin a principal vnity and consent in doctrine Fourthly if Luther or Caluin were set of God to reforme the Church I demaund then what tyme and in what place God gaue them this Office what words did he vse vnto them cyther internall or externall In what manner did he declare vnto them the chiefe heads and points of this Reformation what order and manner did he prescribe them How or in what forme did he appeare vnto them Externally in a visible shape as he did to S. Paul or internally by imaginary vision in some extasis as he did to the Prophets to S. Iohn Euangelist in the Apocalyps For that he is wont to obserue al these things with those whome he sendeth And the Prophets themselues presently in the beginning of their preaching did explicate and declare all these things to the people that they might vnderstand of whome they were sent or what comman̄dement was giuen vnto them to performe as out of the Prophesyes of Isay Ieremy Ezechiel Daniel and others is manifest that they were all wont to premit these things first of all And
Author then was it secret therfore cannot be the religiō of Christ which is a wayes apparent manifest And whatsoeuer in this discourse hath byn said and proued concerning Lutheran religion yow must vnderstand to haue byn said and proued also of Caluinisme and Anabaptisme for that the selfe same nouelty and reasons belong to all three but that for perspicuityes sake and not often to repeat with tediousnes all three names we haue only nominated one Therfore do I conclude with the words of S. Hierome Hier. Dial. contra Lucifer in fine who writeth thus That I way set thee downe briefly and playnely any opinion Thou must saith hee remayne in that Church which was founded by the Apostles and continueth vntil this very day And if by chance thou shouldest he are those that be called Christians to be named of some other and net of Iesus Christ to u it of the Marcionites Valentiniās Montanistes c. know thou certainly that that is not the Church of Christ but the Synagogue of Antichrist for that because they were institued afterward they do demonstrate themselnes to be those whome the Apostle foretould c. Nor let them flatter themselues if out of certaine places of Scripture they do seemete affirme that with they say for that the Diuell did also alleagde Scripture for his purpose and the force of Scripture doth not consist in reading but in vnderstanding So S. Hierome Nouelty therfore is a signe of heresy fortould by the Apostle denomination is a signe of nouelty and the vsurping of Scripture is common to the Diuell himselfe and all heresyes The II. Reason Taken from the defect of Succession ANOTHER reason why these religions are not to be allowed of is The want of succession for that they want an orderly and continuall Succession of Ministers in the Church from the Apostles which succession is necessary that any Religion or Church should be deemed Apostolicall for without the same it cannot be continued with the Apostolike So as the Ancient Fathers for the most part teach that they who say they haue the true Church of Christ with them must bring forth the succession of their Bishops and reduce the same vpwards to some one of the Apostles by an orderly continuation which if they cannot do it is an easy matter to conuince them that the true Church of Christ is not with them For so Optatus Mileuitanus in his second booke against Parmenian when he would conuince the Donatistes that they had not the true Church with them said Shew forth the origen or beginning of your sea yow that wildaime the Holy Church to your selues And Tertullian in his prescriptions againg heretiks saith Let heretikes shew forth the origen of their Churches let them recount the order of their Bishops succeeding from the beginning that he who was the first should haue some Apostle or Apostolike man for his Author and predecessour c. The same argument do the rest of the Fathers commonly vse as (a) lib 3. cap ● Irenaeus (b) hoeresi 27. Epiphanius (c) cont Lucifer Hieronymus S. (d) cap. 4. cont Epist Fundam Augustine and others Now it is well knowne that neyther Lutherans Caluinistes nor Ana baptistes can with any the least colour do the same For to whome I pray you did Luther who for the most part was the Author and first parent of these new religions succeed Whose Chayre and authority did he occupy who before him was the prelate of the Luther an religion as also before Caluin and Zwinglius who was their predeceslour And if none can be assigned it is cleere that they want that succession which the Ancient Holy Fathers do require that any Church should be ioined with that of the Apostles Againe Want of Ordination they do not only want succession of Chayre and authority but euen the ordination of degrees descending from the Apostles For that there was alwayes requisite a double power in the Ministers of the Church both of them by an orderly continuation deriued from the Apostles as before we haue shewed in the 7. Consideration to wit Power of Order by which Sacrifice is offered and Sacraments are made to sanctify the faithfull and Power of Iurisdiction by which the authority of gouerning and feeding the Church with the word of God is giuen c. But these new religions can reduce neither of them to the Apostles Not the power of Iurisdiction because they want succession as before we haue said nor yet the Power of Ordinatiō or Order for who ordained Luther or Caluin a Bishop of their Church And if they say that order is not needfull they do contradict all antiquity and the perpetuall vse of the Church For neuer yet was there Bishop in the Church so as he had authority to exercise all Bishoply functions but that he was ordained by some other Bishop to whome by the Constitution of the Apostles themselues must be adioined two other bishops as is expressely commaunded in the first Canon of the Apostles fourth of the Nicene Councel as also insinuated by S. Paul writing to Timothy a Bishop 1. Tim. 4. and warning him thus Do not neglect the grace which is in thee which grace is giuen thee by prophesy with imposition of the hands of Priesthood that is to say of those Bishops who togeather with the Bishop that doth ordaine do lay their hands vpon him that is ordained as the Ancient Fathers do expound it By which it is cleere and euident that the Lutherans and Caluinists haue neither of these forsaid powers from the Apostles nor can they deriue the same from the Apostles and consequently in that they do not descend from them they haue not the true religion and Church with them For that the true Church according to both powers ought to be deriued and to haue continued with them from the Apostles as we haue shewed before seing that all power spirituall ought to be deriued from Christ through the Apostles and their successours by a continuall and orderly succession and communication to other ministers of the Church as the corporall life of man is deriued by certaine meanes through a continuall succession from our first parent Adam to the last For euen as in the old Testament there were no priests except those that descended from the Tribe of Leui thorough Aaron so in the new there are no priests or Bishops except those that descend in degree of Order and power of Iurisdiction from Christ the chiefe Priest through the Apostles and their successours And therfore as the Sinagogue could not be without priests descending by a continuall succession from Aaron so the Church of Christ cannot be without Priests or Bishops descending by the same continuall succession from the Apostles and their successours But the Congregation of Lutherans and Caluinistes had neuer any such ministers had neuer any Bishops-lawfully ordayned amongst them descending in power of Iurisdiction from the
disciple of his but he was in danger to haue byn strangled himself by that diuel Cochlaeus in actis Lutheri en 1523. as witnesseth Fredericus Staphilus who was present at the act And at another time he would haue raysed to life one that was drowned in the riuer of Alba but in vayne In like manner Caluin attempted to raise one to life who by his perswasiō feigned himselfe dead but with that successe that of aliue man he became dead indeed for that by the iust iudgment of God when as Caluin came to raise him he was found without life The whole story wherof with all particulers is at large recounted by M. Hierome Bolsecke in vita Caluini cap. 23. Wherfore seing neither true nor feigned miracles do succeed with them they endeauour to take quite away from the Catholike Church this most strong rocke and firmament of miracles which altogeather conuinceth the vnderstanding of man but with no shew of probability at all as we haue shewed As those therfore who pondering and weighing well the miracles of our Sauiour and his Apostles with a quiet and humble mynd setting aside all hatred other euill affections could not doubt but that their doctrine proceeded from God euen so now they that without hatred passiō of mynd consider well of the miracles that haue byn wrought in the Catholike Church by holy men in all ages both aliue and dead cannot doubt but that their Doctrine and Religion proceedeth from God and that the Church wherunto they adhere is the true Church of God V. CONSIDERATION From the Conuersion of Nations by the imbracers of Catholicke Religion THAT Religion is esteemed to be the true and consequently to be imbraced wherunto alwayes Nations haue byn conuerted For that our Lord hath often promised in Scripture this conuersion of Nations Psal 1. 21. Ose 1. matth marc Luc. vltimo to the true faith and worship of God which promise must be fulfilled But the Religion wherunto Nations in all ages haue byn and now in this our age also are conuerted is the Catholike and Roman Religion Ergo there can be no doubt but that this is the true Religion of Christ Now then that Religion wherunto these nations haue alwayes being and are conuerted is the Catholike and Roman Religion is most manifest by that which hath byn done aswell in this our age as in former before For that in this our age there haue byn infinite and dayly still are conuerted in the East Indies in Iapone and in the vast Kingdome of China besides in many Ilands of the Indian seas All these passe from their Gentility to the Catholike Religion are vnited to the Roman Church and this by Religious mens indeauours sent thither by authority from the Pope In the last or fourtenth Age one only S. Vincent surnamed Ferrerius of the order of S. Dominicke conuerted to the Catholike faith fiue and twenty thousand partly Iewes and partly Saracens as testifieth S. Antoninus a famous Writer of that age 3. p. Histor tit 23. cap. 8. § 4. In the 13. Age were conuerted very many to the Catholik faith in-the Kingdome of Tartary by two Friars of S. Dominickes order being sent thither from the Pope the Emperour of Tartary himselfe whome they cal the Great Cam desiring the same as wryteth Paulus Venetus whose help and endeauour the said Emperour vsed in effecting of this busines In the 12. Age the people of Nor why were conuerted vnto the Romā Faith by * This Adrian was an Englishman and called Nicolas Break-speare before he was aslūpted to the Apostolik Sea Adrian the fourth before he was Pope as writeth Platina in the life of Pope Alexander the fourth In the 11. Age were the Hungarians for the most part conuerted and Bishops ordayned and appointed there by the Pope of Rome at the request of their King Stephē after wards a Saint that was newly conuerted to the said Roman faith as wryte the Centuriators of Magdeburge Cent. 11. cap. 2. In the 10. Age were many prouinces conuerted to the Roman faith by the endeauours of Henry the first Emperour Adalbert and Methodius Archbishops of Bohemia and Morauia as testify the Centuriators aboue mentioned cent 10. cap. 2. In the 9. Age were the VVandalls Bulgarians Sclauonians Polonians with those of Denmarke and Morauia conuerted to the faith and vnited to the Roman Church Centur. 9. cap. 2. In the 8. Age was conuerted a great part of Germany to the Roman faith by S. Boniface sent thither for that purpose from Pope Gregory the second Cent. 8. cap. 2. In the 7. Age were conuerted those of Franconia or Franke-County by S. Kilian sent thither from the Pope of Rome also Cent. 7. cap. 2. In the 6. Age were the Englishmen conuerted to the Roman faith by Monkes sent thither for that purpose from S. Gregory the Great Cent. 6. cap. 2. Finally those of Brabant Flaunders Holland Frizeland VVestphalia France and other adioyning Nations by whome were they conuerted Were they not conuerted by disciples of the Roman Church to wit S. Seruatius S. Eloy S. Rumwold S. Amandus S. Vedastus S. Leuin S. Remigius S. VVillebrord S. Swibert S. VVulfrane and others who all were most addicted to the Roman Church By which it is manifest that all Nations which haue byn conuerted from Paganisme or Iudaisme to Christ for these thousand yeares last past were conuerted to the Catholike Roman faith and vnited and incorporated to the Roman Church This is also confirmed besides other tokens to haue byn the Roman faith and Religion by Priests by altars by worship of holy Reliques Images by pilgrimages by Inuocatiō of Saintes by Monasteryes by Monkes by Obedience to the Pope and by very many other things proper to Catholike Religian which were in vse among all Nations after their Couuersion vntill of ●ake they were take away and abolished in some places by these new vpstart Religions What man is there that maturely considering these things can any way doubt but that Catholike Religion is the true For that in her he seeth fullfilled Gods diuine promise of the cōuersion of Nations To her do fly so many people so many remote Nations so many most porent Kingdomes forsaking their Idolatry abandoning the impurity of life reiecting the multitude of wiues forgetting their barbarous sauage manners banishing all former liberty of life and as it were to become tame and tractable vnder the yoke of Christ sweetly to tast of the feare of God to comforme themselues to all modesty of life and last of al to be inflamed with the contempt of temporall things and loue of celestiall How is it possible that that Religion should be false and impious which doth worke such wonderfull mutation in the harts of barbarous people To conclude how can it possible be t●●t the Diuine Frouidence should permital these Nations so many yeares to be deceyued when as they haue forsaken their Idolatry so hartily imbraced verity and
vnited themselues to the Church of Christ and now to force them as it were into other abhominable errors and new Idolatry and that by such who were accompted and accepted of all men for lawfull Ministers of the Church and were famous for sanctity of life wisdom miracles God for bid that euer we should so thinke of his Diuine goodnes and prouidence which he vseth for mans saluation Furthermore to Lutheranisme Caluinisme or Anabapt●sme there was neuer heard of any conuersion of Nations or Pagan Kingdomes but only a defection of some few who professing the name of Christ and weary of their ancient Religion and discipline did follow the liberty of their lust nouelty which is a manifest argument of heresy For that heresy is nothing els but a corruption of Catholike doctrine and a defection or falling away from ancient Christian Religion only retayning the name of a Christian ●●esides the study of hereticall teachers is not to conuert Ethnicks but peruert Christians which Tertullian excellently describeth in his booke of Prescriptions Of administration of the word saith he what shall I say Seing that their busines is not to conuert Ethnicks but to peruert ours Christians They do take more glory to bring to ruine those that stand fast then to help those vp that are fallen because that this their endeauour comes not from their owne building but from the destruction of truth They digge vp ours to build vp theirs So as it commeth to passe that they worke the downfall of standing edifices more easily then the building of decayed ruines VI. CONSIDERATION From the Name Catholike from the thinge it selfe signed or marked with this Name FVRTHERMORE that Religion is to be esteemed for the true Religion which hath alwayes byn accompted called Catholike according to that of the Apostolicall creed Credo Sanctam Ecclesiam Catholicam I beleeue the holy Catholik Church But the Roman Church of all other Churches is only called the Catholick and her followers Catholikes Ergo only the Roman Religion is the true Religiō of Christ That the Roman Church is and alwayes hath byn only called Catholick is manifest First by the very vse custome of so calling her receyued throughout the world so as oftentymes the heretikes themselues in their wrytings do call her Catholike and her followers Catholiks neyther did any Sect whatsoeuer deserue that name For neuer were the Marcionites Montanistes Donatists Pelagians Vigilantians Waldenses Lutherans Caluinists or Anabaptistes called Catholikes or their doctrine Catholike Only the Roman Church with the people adhering vnto her is called the Catholike and the Religion faith doctrine of this Church is called the Catholike Religion the Catholikefaith the Catholike doctrine and her followers Catholikes Secondly Catholike is extended to all Nations because Catholike is the same that Vniuersall most largely extending it selfe to all And such is the Roman Religion for that it being dilated and spread ouerall the world doth extend it selfe to all nations and Kingdomes For that there is no Kingdome nor Nation vnknowne to vs which eyther doth not or somtymes did or doth not now begin to imbrace this religiō Nay now adayes the professiō of this our religion is almost publike amongst all Nations to wit amongst those of Iaponia China India Persia Tartariae Turky Africa Brasile Peru Mexico c. For that in all these places are found Catholikes Churches Altars Images of Christ and of Saintes Masse is there celebrated our Sacraments are there administred holydayes and fasting dayes are there kept and finally the Roman religion is there publikely obserued Who can then doubt but that this is the true way of saluation to all which our Sauiour would haue taught preached and proposed to all nations which he would haue to increase and fructify in all Kingdomes in due tyme and season and which he doth stil conserue by some meanes or other in euery place ordayning that Catholikes be so dispersed throughout the whole world that by them Infidels may come to the knowledge of true Religion Moreouer this Catholike Religion doth extend it selfe to al tymes It extendeth it selfe to all tymes euen frō the Apostles For that there can be no age from that tyme assigned wherin this Religion did not florish In all ages hath Masse byn celebrated both for the liue and dead feastes solemnized fastes obserued Monasticall vowes made Saints worshipped their reliques honoured and such other like proper ensignes of our religion haue byn in vse and practice as is manifest out of the writers of all tymes On the contrary side No sect euer called Catholick let vs looke vpon all other sectes and we shall neuer find that any one of them was euer called Catholike nor their followers Catholikes as we haue said but that euery one tooke their names of their first Authors as the Simonians Valentinians Pelagians Lutherans No sect euer spread ouer the world Caluinists c. No sect was euer spread ouer the world When Catholike Religion began once to appeare in short tyme it was spread ouer the whole world and began to increase and fructify almost in all Kingdomes Rom. 1● Colōss 1. as S. Paul affirmeth But Lutheranisme Caluinisme and Anabaptisme now after 70. or 80. yeares are yet confined to certayne strayt corners do rather daily decay by eyther going into other sects or els returning to Catholike Religion then any way increase For that none of them hath continued from the Apostles tymes but all sprung vp and inuented within these 70. or 80. yeares last past and therfore neyther in regard of tyme place nor otherwise can they be called Catholike Againe I say that Catholike Religion is one and the selfe same euery where But these religions are exceeding different amongst themselues and disagreeing in their chiefe heads and members one damning another to the pit of hell of heresy how therfore can they be called Catholike VII CONSIDERATION From Succession FVRTHER MORE that Religion is to be accompted the true whose ministers do all descend from the Apostles and are eyther the Apostles successors or haue receiued their order and authority from their sucessours For by this reason it will appeare manifest that that Religion and Church which doth honour imbrace a religion so descended to be Apostolicall Ergo c. Now that all Ministers of the Catholike Religion whether we consider the power of their order or Iuris diction haue descended from the Apostles it is cleere For that all inferiour ministers especialy Priests Deacons Subdeacons receiue their order from Bishops Bishops also haue their order from other Bishops and these likewise againe from others and so futhermore vpwards to the Apostles who receiued this power immediatly from Christ As all men therfore according to their vitall and naturall power do by a long course of genealogy descend from our first Parent Adam so do all ministers of the Catholike Church according to their supernaturall power by a longe