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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A95332	Truth and peace honestly pleaded, and rightly sought for: or, A loyall subjects advice. Usefull to [brace] confirm convince calme condemne honest ignorant passionate malicious [brace] men. By A true lover of God and King Charles.	True lover of God and King Charles.	1642 (1642)	Wing T3150; Thomason E128_14; ESTC R22293	37,857	46

the State And it may be the Kings forces running lately with so strong bias so eagerly at Banbury Warwicke Coventry c. esteemed most opposite indeed to the Papist though perhaps not otherwise direct to the first or maine mark for the present of these Malignants may judicate and argue without any sophistry a present complication of the disease and the duplicity of the designe and danger or if not a present essence of a double disease yet a dangerous maladie now in being alreadie but breaking out into a symptome more to be taken heed of then the very disease and depending on it But they object our Religion is on the other hand more indangered by Brownisme Anabaptisme c. suppose this true and that these should get strength nay prevail with the Parliament which it is charged to promote upon as likely as strong and even the same grounds as it is to affect the change of the Monarchy yet as we said of we know not what new form of government supposing ridiculously the Parliament did introduce it it were easily dissolvible so obscure Brownisme or Anabaptisme were much more easily mastered and redressed then most politick potent all over bearing Papistry likely to be backed with forreigne force which I think none will say is to be feared from those other scarce known weak poore Sects whose obscurity and paucity hides rather and exempts from animadversion and would the Parliament attempt this though we might justly refuse to dispute with those that denie principles in this kingdoms policie calling still in question the wisdom Justice and honour of Parliaments could it ever effect it without the peoples concurring Papistry so increased at home so countenanced might if it doth not already with their good friends help in Ireland and elsewhere hope to force entrance How foolish then is it for the people to fear that which can never take effect unlesse it self will have it so I fall unawares upon the same answer here used before touching the supposed change of the State because the false grounds they would seem to go on here and there seeming the same and if the whole kingdom or people will have it so there is no opposing But hath not the Parliament taken a voluntarie Oath besides so many publique Protestations and other obligations to us the Scots and the States of the Low Countreys for the maintenance of the Protestant Religion which they are too wise and just needlesly to have done and so should they do otherwise to incurre most justly universall falling of or rather falling on them had they had any intent ever to have done as these would seeme to fear to direct us here also from looking at the true fear and danger nay to draw us with our own hands to pull it on us we may superadde that the voluntary oaths of such a multitude as the Parliament on whom no suspition at all can fasten of inclining to that religion which takes upon it to dispence with oaths and equivocations and thereby with the Law of God Nature and Nations which intended to advance it will by Gods justice advance the ruine of it are better security then our Malignants have or can give us on the other side the Antithesis in each part inquired into duely as the subject well deserves But these men would here also take benefit of their own wrong according to their usuall method it may appear what correspondence or good intelligence the maine dangers of our Religion and State still hold mutually or how they resemble Necessity of the State nay of the very preservation of it self whereof these Objectors are manifestly the authors may justly and too evidently doth compell the Parliament to the letling of Religion though the end of policy and however first in esteeme and intention yet not so in the time of execution alwayes after the ordering of politick affairs and in such desperate times as these not to do this were but a sacrifice without salt a foolish superstition like that of the Jews who would rather sit still and so suffer themselves to be cut in pieces by the capitall enemies of their State and Religion contrary to David who in necessitie spared not the very Shewbread who maliciously invaded them purposely at such a time then arme or fight upon such necessitie on their Sabbath Which they complain the Parliament will not now do which should it now one ruine might involve both Church and State both at once yet hath it not altogether even such times notwithstanding left it self without some testimony of their good intentions herein as particular Acts or Orders of theirs do shew to the world but the attempts and facts of the Malignants evident to all men apologize too well for the Parliament in this point without any words from any man if we weigh the desperate estate of publicke affaires well in these times caused by the malice of these Monsters which times forcing us for a while to content our selves with an implicite or generall faith as touching the ordering reforming or setling of other particulars concerning Religion which cannot for the said necessarie reasons and the like be yet effected yet we have besides many other inducements obvious enough to confirm such implicite faith this also that of such ordering and setling these matters as is to be wished there is farre greater hope and presumption caeteris paribus from those Divines that preach and cry down the temporall greatnesse pride riches avarice c. of the Clergy and so all their own hopes and pretensions that way and consequently from the Parliament which we see countenanceth such men then from the contrary side that professing likewise in a speciall manner and degree mortification contempt and renouncing of the world and of the glory greatnesse and pomp of it humility and the like as minding heavenly matters and things above as principles of the Doctrine and Religion they presse upon us yet are not ashamed to appear to the world invested through various mysteries of iniquitie with so great a share of whatsoever the most worldly men whose highest contemplations ascend not to the Moon compose their Trinity of as may enable these men thus crucified and dead to the world by their own earthly power greatnesse authoritie not to insist on that kind which they have in our times attempted to render in some points or cases at least independent of the crown and absolute and which earthly greatnesse rather then the Parliament shall question or regulate they will question and condemne the Parliament and advance a Civill Warre or forreigne invasion to the evident danger of a generall ruine and abomination of desolation of their Countrey nay Church it self which these hypocrites would seem to stand for as may enable them I say by their own temporall potency which in the hand of such men becomes more dreadfull then any spirituall power they exercise sufficiently to keep in awfull silence if not to bring into a kind of

Inquisition such as most heretically shall not captivate and subdue their understanding and reason under so strong a faith as to beleeve that these chief ones who ought to be most eminent of all in practising the said principles of renouncing the world humility mortification c. which they recommend command and enjoyn as Leaders and Captains for all that should follow them on so difficult services can yet practice and pursue I say so ardently so desperately the clean contrary so as if they would have others quit the world onely that themselves might seise it and yet thus by their deeds drawing into suspition doubt misptision with multitudes of men nay even confuting their Doctrine not be a maine cause of the miseries and calamities of the world whilest deluges of sinne and wickednesse and pernicious consequences breake in at this so great an overture of the faith thus discountenanced and discredited and even called in question will not many incline rather to beleeve that this practice this doctrine so destructive one to the other is sowing their feilds with mingled seed wearing a garment mingled with woollen and linnen so forbidden in the Mosaike Law That such a ridiculous unsuitablenes between such profession doctrine such practise and deeds is rather a mockery of the world Will they not like one Cicero speaks of wonder cur aruspex videns risum teneret Though the Mahumetan sect be grosse and carnall and the Mahumetans themselves exceeding devout in their kinds and superstitious having their Church-men in great reverence diverse of them rich and profuse otherwise in works they conceive any way pious and charitable and though otherwise the Nation very covetous yet I thinke it will not be easie to shew that their chiefe Church men in generall in any temporall greatnesse or riches doe not much rather resemble the mendicant Orders among the Papists did they hold themselves to their Rules then the Papisticall or our Prelates and chiefe Clergy-men who yet professe themselves Leaders in so spirituall so heavenly and sublime so world-renouncing a way faith and doctrine It is true the Turkish Muphty or chiefe Priest is by the grand Turke partly to please the people in shew and shadow greatly honoured not perhaps without a competency in revenue but I take it hereabouts their devotion of any note this way ends As for any temporall greatnesse and riches the Mosaicall Clergie might have wee are taught these were rather grosse and sensible Types then any thing else of the spirituall eminency graces endowments and power that ought to shine in the sublime and heavenly Antitype whence their true authoritie with the people and reverence and even veneration to their doctrine places and persons must flow conserved encreased by ever constant and invincible rejections of the least not necessary temporall matter if pressed on them as an high dishonour or affront offered to discredit them a bribe to corrupt them in the execution of their Embassage a baite to entrap them and frustrate the service they are sent about a temptation of pernicious consequence nay of what the State may adjudge and assigne the Clergie as necessary if it might be a voluntary and absolute declining of part even of that for I doubt not but the State would appoint such a proportion as might to duely mortified and spirituall men afford matter for the honour of such a refusall would undoubtedly adde such authoritie and reverent regard to them and their doctrine that men seeing they seek them not theirs nor will admit more of the world then what is meerely necessary for them for the discharge of their places you shall discover a new world Men by such courses which will bring on doctrine proportionable will be so moved that cutting off each in his proportion greatly even their own superfluous vanities much more their sins what our spirituall men may so have refused with infinite more by others thus cut off may be distributed among the poore besides the benefit of such examples and doctrine extending even to these and so universall charitie reducing all to a blessed kinde if not of paritie yet of proportion leaving the least in a tolerable mediocritie a golden age or primitive times may rise againe in the world But the way to this heaven is first to goe by the gates of hell as through the Parliament the Kingdome is made at by the true malignants so through or under colour of a pretended malignant partie that seduceth or ruleth the Parliament the Parliament or authoritie and dignitie thereof is attaqued but sure this is propounded as an article of saith and to weake reason past comprehension how it can well be but how ever they are misbeleevers and hereticks that pertinaciously reject an article of faith and with force to be proceeded against yet force being found oft none of the best wayes to extinguish heresie but rather the canker spreaded and exasperated by rude handling many have not and will not be deterred from advancing such as these plaine or stronger oppositions if any of this malignant partie propound any thing as in all great assemblies some must breake the matter and begin and the house consent to the proposition it is now the act of the whole house if any propound or speake things that seeme to others offensive or to deserve animadversion and yet the house or major part punish it not they by such connivence for these men may be allowed to question still principles that the Parliament would doe dishonorably and yet come short of their malicious intents make it also this way their owne and so not these censors or any els but the Parliament as above appeared is to judge of the Parliament but such censors themselves are to be condemned by the Parliament for thus presuming or assuming to themselves the supreame power to judge besides particular charges and articles against such were to be offered to the House the accusers and witnesses to be produced and forth-comming that if they make not good their charges the parties unjustly molested and accused might have condigne reparations upon them and the House it selfe satisfaction the publique service thus causelesly interrupted and the integritie of the House called in question and the like appertaining to cases of this nature Such charges have been promised long since should suddenly appeare against the accused Members of the Parliament and by them as Justice earnestly required but appeare not all this while not so much as to the people abroad though this were not the right way which they so strive to incense against the Parliament but rather warre in stead of them and seeing so many of the very Members of the Houses of Parliament are their enemies falling off from them unjustly if none such still remaine among them were things appearing unjustifiable there said or done if it might stand with the libertie and power of Parliament not to have libertie of speech it might easily be made appeare in particular to