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A10973 Two dialogues, or conferences (about an old question lately renued, and by the schismaticall company, both by printed pamphlets, and otherwise to the disturbance of the Churches quiet, and of peaceable minds, very hotly pursued.) Concerning kneeling in the very act of receiuing the sacramental bread and wine, in the Supper of the Lord The former betweene two ministers of the word, the one refractarie, and depriued; the other not so. The latter betweene an humorous schismatike and a setled professor. Rogers, Thomas, d. 1616. 1608 (1608) STC 21241; ESTC S116109 75,976 132

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and_o receive_v the_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o wine_n in_o the_o holy_a communion_n be_v if_o it_o be_v orderly_o take_v and_o decent_o do_v be_v from_o god_n and_o his_o word_n albeit_o therefore_o neither_o nature_n enjoin_v we_o to_o kneel_v no_o more_o then_o to_o sit_v or_o stand_v when_o we_o eat_v and_o drink_v nor_o the_o word_n or_o holy_a scripture_n to_o kneel_v no_o more_o then_o to_o stand_v or_o sit_v when_o we_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n yet_o as_o our_o common_a eat_n and_o drink_v according_a to_o the_o laudable_a custom_n of_o our_o country_n where_o we_o live_v be_v from_o nature_n though_o institute_v by_o man_n or_o make_v usual_a by_o custom_n even_o so_o our_o kneel_v in_o eat_v and_o drink_v the_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o wine_n in_o the_o holy_a communion_n be_v from_o the_o word_n of_o god_n original_o though_o institute_v by_o man_n inasmuch_o as_o god_n be_v the_o fountain_n of_o all_o decent_a order_n in_o his_o church_n as_o after_o god_n nature_n be_v the_o author_n of_o all_o civility_n &_o good_a manner_n among_o man_n in_o the_o world_n think_v not_o then_o how_o kneel_v at_o the_o communion_n be_v by_o institution_n of_o man_n or_o mere_o from_o man_n not_o require_v by_o the_o word_n for_o both_o man_n appoint_v and_o god_n approve_v and_o by_o authority_n from_o god_n man_n appoint_v and_o by_o the_o ministry_n of_o man_n god_n approve_v our_o kneel_v and_o so_o our_o say_a kneel_v be_v not_o so_o much_o the_o institution_n of_o man_n as_o of_o god_n and_o require_v in_o his_o word_n so_o that_o in_o kneel_v though_o sometime_o and_o some_o people_n may_v yet_o always_o and_o all_o person_n do_v not_o sin_n yea_o all_o communicant_n if_o otherwise_o they_o offend_v not_o do_v serve_v and_o please_v god_n by_o kneel_v sect_n 2._o whether_o kneel_v be_v use_v without_o all_o respect_n of_o reverence_n unto_o god_n in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n schis_n if_o it_o be_v by_o institution_n it_o must_v be_v either_o in_o 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