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prison_n in_o the_o excommunication_n of_o the_o incestuous_a corinthian_a where_o both_o the_o elder_n and_o brethren_n concur_v the_o sentence_n may_v well_o be_v deliver_v in_o term_n that_o express_v a_o act_n of_o high_a authority_n to_o deliver_v unto_o satan_n but_o where_o the_o church_n be_v call_v to_o act_v against_o their_o elder_n who_o corrupt_v they_o with_o false_a doctrine_n there_o the_o apostle_n require_v the_o church_n to_o mark_v they_o and_o avoid_v they_o rom._n 16._o 17_o 18._o which_o may_v express_v a_o act_n of_o liberty_n and_o judicial_a power_n but_o not_o of_o authority_n chap._n 4._o touch_v the_o seven_o contradiction_n and_o eight_o the_o seven_o contradiction_n be_v thus_o gather_v 7._o it_o be_v a_o sacrilegious_a breach_n of_o order_n that_o commissary_n and_o chancellor_n want_v the_o key_n of_o order_n no_o minister_n have_v be_v invest_v with_o jurisdiction_n yea_o and_o more_o than_o ministerial_a authority_n above_o those_o elder_n who_o 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