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A30637 Vindiciæ pædo-baptismi, or, A confirmation of an argument lately emitted for infants baptism in a letter to a reverend divine of the Church of England / by R.B. ... Burthogge, Richard, 1638?-ca. 1700. 1685 (1685) Wing B6157A; ESTC R40304 32,736 88

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says he falsely represents my words and makes me say Pag. 3. That it is Probable those that would not suffer little Children to come to Christ were of his Perswasion Is not this an honest Disputant or rather a cunning sophister I said some it may be of your Perswasion And it may be is but happily and that at most is but a Possibility and he hath made Probability of it in a word hath made a Serious matter of what was only intended for a Divertive one But of this I doubt not but I shall hear again and be Rhimed for it In the mean time I will Ask him one hard Question viz. Where it is that I do say as he says I do to this purpose that 't is Probable c. sure he can never find it but where he finds that Mahomet's Tomb at Mecca to use his own Expression Pag. 5. is said to hang by Geometry or that the Licians suffered none to propose a New Law but at his Peril Pag. 5. and that is no where but either in his own Common-Place-Book or to speak in his own most Civil Language within his own Pericranium and there Magnetism and Geometry Serious and Pleasant Licians and Locrians Scotus and Sotus are all one and not so much as Mensa as a Table between them I have ended with the Reflexions which he makes as to the Harmony of my Argument the which you see are so rarely Proper and so Judicious that you may well believe though he say it himself Pag. 64. That his Reader will find namely in his Book somewhat of Brain as well as Tongue and somewhat of his Brain you have already had upon the Harmony of the Argument Now you shall have somewhat too of his Tongue upon the Novelty of it And upon this Head First He Gravely Informs me that Innovators hear not well among the Judicious P. 4. As if Anabaptists were not Innovators but all for Antiquity and the good Old way Secondly He is again at his Tales that the Licians he should have said the Locrians suffered none to Propose a New Law but at his own Peril P. 5. as if Arguments were Lawes or that Infants Baptisme were not setled by ours In fine He Adds and you may think from Pure love that the Church of England by all means He is much Concerned for Her and all other the Assertors and advocates of Infants Baptism on the Old Foundations are more concerned in one Passage than He P. 5. As if all of all orders were fast asleep and all like to be lost unless a Goose a Second time should save the Capitol You see Sir his Extraordinary Courtesie for the Church of England as well as for other the Advocates and Assertors of Infants Baptism But I hope this Church and those other Advocates and Assertors of Infants Baptism will not for all that be Wheedled into a Mistake You may be sure his Courtesie is but Polyphemus ' s Now indeed He fights against one but know he hath a Reserve for all you now must look to your Old Foundations He is Principally P. 5. at Present at least only concerned about the new one Mark that at Present at least This Church no more then others hath no entire security from him It is not a Peace but only a Cessation he grants He is at Present only concerned about the new one But time may come for the old ones too And Really he is Provided already if such a time shall come For as you had it before in his Letter He hath a very Large Discourse which he had before Compiled in which he doth Consider and give Answer to all the most Material Arguments which are usually Insisted on for Justification of the Practice of Infants Baptism c. The Church of England it seems for all his Kindness to her and all other the Advocates and Assertors of Infants Baptism though now he claws them might have heard of him sooner Ay and have felt him too before this but that unluckily for my self but luckily enough for this Church and for those other Advocates and Assertors I did come in his way and now the Cry is Novelty Novelty Truly I think it very needless and I could wish that others thought so too to Vindicate my self from his Extravegancies upon his Topick and to tell you That the Title Page of my Book on which he principally grounds Them as it went from me was nakedly this An Argument for Infants-Baptism deduced from the Analogy of Faith and Harmony of the Scriptures And what is added if any Imputation can be laid to it of Gaudiness or Ostentation it must be Put on the Book-seller as the Occasioner of it I acknowledge it is said that the Method is wholly New and that it certainly is but it is not said as this Disputer doth Report it That the Argument is wholly New Method and Matter are very different things and in the very Title where it is noted that the Method is wholly New it is said of the Grounds and these are Matter not that they are wholly New but that they are not commonly Observed Implying that they may have been and are by some Observed though Happily not by every Body And who will say they were And when I say the Argument as I do manage it hath little Authority 't is manifest I speak not of the Argument as to the matter and grounds of it but as to the Method and Form of Managing of it I say not the Argument Simply but the Argument as I do Manage it the Method of Management is mine and is New but the Grounds on which it is Bottomed are not New but are as Old as the Church and as the Bible In fine to Alter Schemes is not to Innovate Articles Schemes are but Dispositions of Matter and may be exceeding various and often are even where the Matter for the main is the same But what if the Argument were New and all as New as the Method Would it to a Man of Conscience a Seeker of Light a Lover of Truth go the less in Value but for That if it is Good It is not Antiquity any more than Novelty It is Verity only that ought to be considered by Conscience and indeed that is for as old Arguments are not Entertained by it only because they are old So new ones are not Rejected only because they are new Dies diem docet but I may not so much Imitate the weakness of my Adversary as to fall a Common Placing and therefore I say no more as to this Thus Sir I have Followed my Adversary in his Prosecution of his two Topicks Harmony and Novelty and have considered his Reflections and now should very gladly dismiss a Subject so unpleasant and so little to Edification but that in a charge he makes upon me both in his Epistle to the Reader and in other places there is another Instance of his Falshood Malice and Calumny Proper fruits of that Distemper
Reward given to Abraham for his Believing How else was it that his Faith was Accounted unto him for Righteousness for though the Reward was Infinitely much Superior to any Desert of his Faith and was a Thing that God in Justice was no ways Oblig'd to make yet a Reward it was and a Reward in the very Idea and Notion of it is of and For something A Reward it was but a Reward of Grace not of Debt God gave it as a Gratuity for what Abraham did but Abraham could not have Demanded it as his due or a Debt After this He tells me P. 129. that all that follows to the close namely in my last Letter from P. 169. to the End is but strife about words In which he finds not any thing but what doth Nauseate But you Sir will find a Vindication in it of that But incerted in my Paraphrase and also a Demonstration in it that ye in Genesis 17. 10. even from his own Concessions cannot be understood of Abraham and that his Seed which is in verse the 9 th but must be meant of Abraham Ishmael and the Rest of the Then Present Family and Consequently that Circumcision was not then Enjoyned on the Seed as it stands in the 9 th verse for the Believing Gentiles but only on the Natural Family which was the Main thing to be Proved I do not know I have omitted any thing of Moment for his Scoffs Jears Gibes c. are of none among his Reflections no nor any thing in His Last Letter that is to the purpose Except a Sophister will think I should consider his Logick P. 120. and because Stierius and Sanderson and indeed other Logicians Generally do say and he must be a very Mean One that doth not know so much that Members of a Division must be Opposite Meaning not properly that they must be Enemies but that they must not Interfere and be Coincident That therefore it must be concluded That All Distinction is Opposition that Disparates are Opposites and that God Abraham and his Seed cou'd not be Distinct Partys if they were not Opposites and even Enemies to one Another But if any think so I Leave him to the Care of this Apothecary and to Hellebore You may be pleas'd to see what I have said in my Argument P. 153 c. as to This. Upon the whole Sir you cannot but Observe how Little Reason there is to Trust my Adversary in Citations and how much cause I have to make you and All his Readers this Request that you never believe that I Affirm or deny any thing which he hereafter though with never so much Confidence shall Report I do unless you first consult my own Writings and see it there And I would also desire of Him that seeing he is so much given to mistake my Meaning He would never Report my sence But in mine own Terms and That is but a fair Request In fine I am not much Afflicted that my Adversary gave me this Occasion of Writing again on this Subject I know that Truth Like silver will appear the Brighter for being Burnished The more He presses this Controversy the more the Subject of it will come in Discourse and Discourse in Time will Ripen and Mellow Notions in the Minds of Men which At First seem hard and Harsh Nor will his Pious Frauds His Rayling upon Arguments instead of Answering of them His unsober Reflecting on His Adversary instead of Arguing with him His Base Hints or his Direct Scurrillitics which Even now Dis-serve his cause with Wise and Good-men Uphold it Long with any These are mean Unmanly and Unchristian Methods and Let him Note it never used but in Extremity and when a Case is Deplor'd which His being I hold it time to End this Trouble From Sir Your Faithfull Friend and Servant R. B Bowdon July 4. 1684 BOOKS Printed for and Sold by Tho. Simmons at the Prince's Arms in Ludgate-street THe History of the Old Testament methodized according to the order and series of Time wherein the several things therein mentioned were transacted In which the difficult Phrases are paraphrased the seeming Contradictions reconciled the Rites and Customs of the Jews opened and explained to which is annexed a short History of the Jewish Affairs from the End of the Old Testament to the Birth of our Saviour and a Map also added of Canaan and the adjacent Countries very useful for the understanding of the whole History by S. Cradock B.D. fol. The Lives of sundry Eminent Persons in this latter Age in Two Parts First Of Divines viz. Mr. Hugh Broughton Mr. R. Boid Dr. Twist Mr. Tho. Wilson Dr. Sam. Bolton Mr. Richard Vines Mr. Richard Blacherhy Mr. Ralph Robinson Mr. John Janeway Mr. John Machia Dr. Sam. Winter Mr. Thomas Tregas Mr. Rich. Mathew Mr. John Allein Dr. Staunton Mr. Samuel Fairclough Mr. Thomas Wadsworth Mr. O. Stochton Mr. T. Gouge To which are Added some Remarkable Passages in the Lives and Deaths of divers Eminent Divines in the Church of Scotland viz. Mr. John Scringer Mr. Robert Blair Mr And. Stewart Mr. John Weleb Mr. Hugh Kennedy Mr. Robert Brute Mr. Davidson and Mr. Patrick Simpson Together with an Account of several Providences strange and Extraordinary Secondly Of Nobility and Gentry of both Sexes viz. Mr. Philip Sidney Sir Charles Coot Mr. John Lamot Sir Nath. Barnadiston Mr. John Rowe Sir Matthew Hale Mrs. Mary Hunter Lady Alice Lucy Lady Mary Vere Mrs. Kath. Clark Countess of Warwick Mrs. Margaret Baxter Lady Armine Lady Langham and Countess of Suffolk By S. Clark sometime Pastor of Bennet Finek London to which is Added the Life of the Author fol. The New Testament of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ with Annotations Containing First An Interpretation of all difficult Phrases and words Secondly Parallel Scriptures both as to Matter and Words to which is Annexed the Harmony of the Gospels By Samuel Clark I. f. 4 to Church History of the Government of Bishops and their Councils abreviated including the Chief Part of the Government of Christian Princes and Popes and a True Account of the most Troubling Controversies and Heresies till the Reformation By Richard Baxter a Hater of False History in 4 to A Treatise of Episcopacy confuting by Scriptur-Reasons and the Churches Testimony that sort of Diocesian Churches Prelacy and Government which casteth out the Primitive Church Species Episcopacy Ministry and Discipline and Confound the Christian World by Corruption Usurpation Schism and Persecution meditated in the Year 1640. when the c. Oath was imposed written 1671. and lastly published 1680. by the importunity of our Superiors who demand the Reasons of our Non-Conformity By Rich. Baxter in 4 to Forgetfulness of God the great Plague of Mans Heart and Consideration of the Principal Means to cure it By W. D. M.A. once Fellow of King's Colledge Cambridge in Octavo Londinum Triumphans or An Historical Account of the grand influence the Actions of the City of London haue had upon the Affairs of the Nation for many Ages past shewing the Antiquity Honour Glory and Renown of this Famous City the grounds of the Rights Priviledges and Franchises the Foundation of the Charter the improbability of its Forfeiture or Seisure the Power and Strength of the Citizens and the several Contests that have been betwixt the Magistracy and Commonalty Collected from the most Authentick Authors and illustrated with variety of Remarks worthy of the perusal of every Citizen By W. Gouge Gent. 8● The Samaritan shewing that many unnecessary Impositions are not the Oyle that must heal the Church together with the way or means to do it by a Country Gent. who goes to Common Prayer and not to Meetings in Octavo The Plea for Children of Believing Parents for their interest in Abraham's Covenant their right to Church-Man ship with their Parents and consequently their Title to Baptism The cause of Publishing this Discourse after so many Learned men have laboured in this province is declared in the preface to the Reader by Giles Freeman in Octavo Peaceable resolution of Crioscience touching our present Imposition wherein Loyalty and Obedience are proposed and setled upon their true foundation in Scripture Reason and the Constitution of this Kingdom against all Resistance of the present Power and for compliance with the Laws so far as may be in order to Union with a draught in specimen of a Bill for Accomodation in Octavo Moral prognostications 1 what shall befall the Church on Earth till their concord by the restitution of their primitive Purity Simplicity Charity 2. How that Restitution is like to be made if ever and what shall besall them henceforth unto the End in the Golden Age of Love written by Richard Baxten when by the King's Commission we in vain Treated for Concord 1661. and now publisht in 1680. FINIS