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act_n of_o a_o man_n own_o will_n or_o can_v cut_v he_o off_o from_o membership_n but_o that_o which_o deserve_v a_o cut_n off_o by_o censure_n and_o for_o which_o the_o church_n shall_v cut_v he_o off_o by_o censure_n if_o she_o do_v her_o duty_n this_o be_v plain_a because_o when_o a_o man_n be_v once_o in_o the_o church_n he_o can_v be_v out_v till_o god_n out_o he_o god_n do_v not_o out_o he_o till_o some_o rule_n or_o appointment_n of_o he_o in_o his_o word_n do_v out_o he_o but_o there_o be_v no_o rule_n that_o appoint_v any_o man_n to_o be_v put_v out_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n or_o make_v as_o a_o heathen_a and_o publican_n but_o for_o and_o upon_o such_o wickedness_n of_o his_o as_o be_v censurable_a by_o the_o church_n and_o in_o that_o case_n the_o rule_n do_v appoint_v and_o enjoin_v the_o church_n to_o censure_v he_o or_o to_o put_v he_o away_o from_o among_o they_o by_o censure_n mat._n 18.17_o 1_o cor._n 5.5_o 13._o when_o some_o divine_n do_v so_o speak_v as_o if_o person_n may_v be_v break_v off_o from_o the_o church_n without_o a_o formal_a censure_n in_o some_o extraordinary_a case_n the_o meaning_n be_v not_o that_o a_o man_n do_v by_o his_o own_o wickedness_n be_v it_o never_o so_o notorious_a immediate_o so_o become_v felo_fw-la de_fw-la se_fw-la or_o vn-member_n himself_o as_o that_o the_o church_n have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o he_o to_o censure_v he_o yes_o she_o may_v and_o aught_o to_o censure_v he_o for_o his_o wickedness_n and_o apostasy_n and_o so_o if_o a_o church-member_n turn_n turk_n or_o papist_n the_o church_n to_o which_o he_o belong_v aught_o to_o lay_v he_o under_o censure_n for_o it_o and_o for_o such_o a_o one_o to_o be_v a_o member_n till_o censure_v i._n e._n a_o rot_a member_n fit_a to_o be_v cut_v off_o be_v no_o contradiction_n nor_o absurdity_n see_v mr._n cotton_v holiness_n of_o church-member_n pag._n 15._o 5.11_o and_o do_v all_o church_n in_o the_o world_n do_v their_o duty_n there_o shall_v no_o man_n live_v that_o ever_o be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o church_n yet_o in_o be_v be_v look_v upon_o as_o a_o non-member_n but_o he_o that_o be_v so_o censure_v on_o excommunicate_v at_o least_o unless_o some_o extraordinary_a and_o rare_a circumstance_n of_o a_o case_n do_v render_v the_o church_n cognizance_n thereof_o impossible_a but_o the_o meaning_n only_o be_v that_o where_o man_n have_v palpable_o and_o notorious_o lose_v the_o essential_o of_o christianity_n and_o a_o church_n through_o the_o sinful_a want_n or_o neglect_v of_o discipline_n never_o look_v after_o they_o only_o by_o her_o doctrine_n declare_v against_o such_o but_o haply_o continue_v in_o that_o neglect_n from_o age_n to_o age_n there_o the_o notoriousness_n of_o the_o case_n and_o the_o evidence_n of_o the_o rule_n do_v supply_v the_o defect_n of_o a_o judicial_a sentence_n and_o the_o church_n doctrinal_a declaration_n may_v be_v look_v at_o as_o a_o implicit_a excommunication_n and_o hence_o other_o church_n may_v just_o carry_v towards_o such_o as_o non-member_n and_o hence_o also_o in_o the_o day_n of_o the_o reformation_n of_o such_o church_n after_o deep_a and_o long-continued_a corruption_n such_o person_n may_v be_v set_v by_o without_o a_o formal_a censure_n but_o what_o be_v all_o this_o to_o the_o child_n of_o our_o church_n who_o be_v admit_v in_o minority_n in_o stead_n of_o notorious_a wickedness_n and_o apostasy_n when_o grow_v up_o do_v in_o some_o measure_n own_o the_o god_n and_o covenant_n of_o their_o father_n and_o be_v neither_o cast_n out_o nor_o deserve_v so_o to_o be_v who_o no_o rule_n in_o all_o the_o scripture_n appoint_v to_o be_v put_v out_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o hence_o tâ—ey_n stand_v and_o continue_v regular_a i._n e._n according_a to_o the_o appointment_n and_o allowance_n of_o the_o rule_n member_n of_o it_o be_v neither_o excommunicate_a nor_o by_o rule_n to_o be_v excommunicate_v where_o shall_v we_o find_v either_o scripture_n or_o sound_a reason_n to_o 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preface_n to_o mr._n shepard_n treatise_n of_o church-membership_a of_o child_n late_o publish_a but_o if_o any_o do_v affirm_v there_o be_v another_o way_n it_o lie_v on_o they_o to_o show_v and_o prove_v it_o let_v we_o now_o consider_v whether_o that_o be_v do_v by_o all_o that_o be_v here_o further_o say_v preface_n when_o whitgift_n say_v that_o papist_n and_o atheist_n may_v still_o remain_v member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n mr._n parker_n tell_v he_o that_o even_o a_o veritius_fw-la will_v condemn_v he_o and_o it_o be_v no_o new_a doctrine_n in_o the_o school_n to_o say_v that_o a_o heretical_a apostate_n be_v no_o more_o a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n than_o a_o wound_n a_o sâ—re_n a_o brand_n be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o man_n as_o eâ—ery_o one_o know_v that_o be_v mediocritèr_fw-la doctus_fw-la in_o scholasiiâ—al_a divinity_n therefore_o we_o conclude_v that_o church-member_n may_v become_v no_o member_n by_o their_o own_o defection_n ans._n sure_o he_o that_o be_v but_o mediâ—critèr_fw-la doctus_fw-la in_o scholastical_a or_o chemical_a divinity_n may_v easy_o know_v that_o here_o be_v the_o show_n of_o a_o argument_n or_o of_o authority_n of_o writer_n witâ—_n out_o the_o substance_n of_o either_o for_o when_o our_o divine_n against_o the_o papist_n do_v so_o often_o over_o say_v that_o wicked_a or_o unregenerate_a person_n be_v but_o equivocal_o or_o improper_o member_n of_o the_o church_n as_o nail_n haâ—r_n sore_n and_o superfluous_a hu_o â—urs_n or_o as_o a_o wooden_a leg._n a_o glass_n eye_n etc._n etc._n be_v member_n of_o the_o live_a body_n of_o a_o man_n they_o mean_v it_o proper_o with_o reference_n to_o the_o invisible_a mystical_a church_n or_o to_o the_o visible_a church_n consider_v in_o its_o internal_a spiritual_a live_a state_n 1113._o not_o with_o reference_n to_o man_n external_a stand_n or_o membership_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n nor_o do_v they_o ever_o dream_v that_o man_n be_v by_o the_o want_n of_o internal_a gracious_a qualification_n cut_v off_o from_o membership_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n without_o any_o church-censure_n it_o be_v well_o know_v that_o they_o reckon_v hypocrite_n and_o secret_o unregenerate_a person_n as_o well_o as_o heretical_a apostate_n or_o the_o openly-wicked_n to_o be_v but_o equivocaliy_v of_o the_o church_n viz._n in_o comparison_n and_o contradistinction_n to_o the_o true_a and_o live_a member_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n â—nd_v as_o â—aul_v diâ—tinguishes_n between_o israel_n and_o they_o that_o be_v of_o israel_n rom._n 9.6_o and_o say_v he_o be_v not_o a_o jew_n i._n e._n not_o a_o jew_n indeed_o and_o accept_v in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n who_o be_v â—ut_v outward_o â—nâ—_n rom._n 2.28_o 29._o but_o will_v you_o therefore_o say_v that_o a_o close_a hypocrite_n unâ—eâ—bers_v himself_o and_o fâ—lls_v out_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n without_o
not_o use_v man_n may_v be_v look_v at_o as_o non-member_n though_o the_o church_n do_v neglect_v to_o pass_v a_o formal_a censure_n wherein_o we_o shall_v not_o trouble_v ourselves_o with_o be_v their_o opponent_n it_o suffice_v we_o that_o in_o church_n regular_o use_v discipline_n there_o be_v no_o ordinary_a way_n whereby_o offender_n lose_v church-membership_a but_o by_o excommunication_n and_o that_o none_o can_v lose_v it_o while_o they_o live_v that_o be_v not_o guilty_a of_o such_o evil_a as_o be_v censurable_a or_o be_v matter_n of_o excommunication_n which_o the_o person_n in_o question_n be_v not_o another_o testimony_n here_o allege_v be_v from_o mr._n cotton_n in_o his_o way_n of_o the_o church_n p._n 9_o where_o he_o say_v that_o many_o in_o church_n have_v cut_v themselves_o off_o ans._n have_v the_o whole_a sentence_n be_v set_v down_o every_o reader_n will_v have_v see_v the_o impertinency_n of_o the_o allegation_n as_o to_o the_o person_n and_o case_n in_o question_n mr._n cotton_v wordâ—_n be_v these_o many_o in_o other_o church_n have_v â—ut_v themselves_o off_o from_o the_o covenant_n by_o their_o notorious_a wickedness_n and_o profaneness_n and_o withal_o in_o the_o same_o place_n he_o add_v that_o arelapsed_a church_n with_o all_o the_o member_n of_o it_o be_v bind_v to_o renew_v their_o covenant_n in_o order_n to_o reformation_n which_o show_v that_o they_o be_v not_o whole_o cut_v off_o before_o though_o their_o membership_n be_v but_o by_o be_v bear_v in_o the_o church_n and_o baptize_v for_o of_o that_o he_o there_o speak_v we_o doubt_v not_o but_o among_o the_o member_n of_o such_o relapsed_a church_n may_v be_v find_v many_o much_o more_o degenerate_a then_o those_o describe_v in_o the_o synod_n five_o preposition_n much_o less_o therefore_o be_v those_o discovenant_v but_o be_v in_o covenant_n be_v bind_v to_o renew_v it_o in_o order_n to_o full_a communion_n the_o next_o testimony_n here_o produce_v be_v from_o those_o word_n in_o the_o discourse_n of_o church-covenant_n pag._n 17._o viz._n that_o if_o man_n have_v not_o promise_v and_o also_o perform_v in_o some_o measure_n of_o truth_n the_o duty_n of_o faith_n and_o obedience_n unto_o god_n they_o have_v not_o take_v hold_v of_o the_o covenant_n but_o have_v discovenant_v themselves_o notwithstanding_o all_o the_o promise_n of_o god_n unto_o their_o father_n and_o other_o thus_o though_o god_n promise_v abraham_n to_o be_v a_o god_n to_o he_o and_o to_o his_o seed_n in_o their_o generation_n genes_n 17_o 7._o yet_o the_o ishmaelite_n and_o edomite_n descend_v from_o abraham_n be_v discovenant_v by_o not_o promise_v nor_o perform_v those_o duty_n of_o faith_n and_o obedience_n which_o god_n require_v on_o the_o people_n part_n now_o if_o this_o say_v the_o apologist_n be_v truth_n in_o the_o year_n 1639._o as_o it_o then_o have_v the_o approbation_n of_o the_o elders_n hereabout_o we_o see_v no_o reason_n why_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v truth_n in_o the_o year_n 1662._o for_o veritas_fw-la in_o omnem_fw-la partem_fw-la svi_fw-la semper_fw-la eadem_fw-la eâ—t_fw-la either_o this_o be_v a_o mistake_n then_o or_o else_o it_o be_v a_o truth_n at_o this_o day_n ans._n let_v the_o word_n here_o cite_v be_v candid_o interpret_v and_o they_o contain_v nothing_o repugnant_a to_o the_o present_a doctrine_n of_o the_o synod_n for_o it_o be_v true_a that_o if_o man_n do_v not_o promise_v or_o do_v not_o perform_v in_o some_o measure_n yea_o in_o some_o measure_n of_o truth_n i._n e._n visible_o and_o in_o charitable_a and_o ecclesiastical_a reputation_n the_o duty_n of_o faith_n and_o obedience_n into_o god_n they_o do_v discovendat_fw-la themselves_o i._n e._n they_o do_v it_o meritorious_o and_o do_v what_o lie_v in_o they_o â—n_a thâ—â—_n part_v to_o destroy_v their_o membership_n and_o â—hey_n so_o do_v it_o as_o will_v infer_v the_o absolute_a loss_n of_o their_o membership_n viz._n either_o by_o formal_a excommunication_n if_o you_o speak_v of_o particular_a person_n and_o if_o the_o church_n do_v her_o duty_n or_o by_o the_o lorâ—s_v give_v they_o a_o bill_n of_o divorce_n if_o you_o speak_v of_o whole_a body_n of_o people_n as_o here_o the_o ishâ—â—celâ—â—s_n 〈◊〉_d a_o eâ—ountes_n be_v speak_v of_o but_o what_o be_v all_o this_o to_o the_o child_n of_o our_o church_n describe_v in_o the_o synodâ—_n five_o proposition_n who_o do_v promise_n and_o do_v in_o some_o â—easure_n though_o not_o in_o so_o full_a a_o measure_n as_o be_v to_o be_v desire_v perform_v the_o duty_n of_o faith_n and_o obedience_n this_o may_v be_v true_a in_o 1639._o and_o in_o 1662._o also_o and_o yet_o our_o assertion_n may_v be_v true_a and_o you_o false_a notwithstanding_o let_v our_o child_n appear_v to_o be_v such_o as_o the_o edoâ—ates_n and_o ishmaelite_n be_v or_o let_v they_o appear_v to_o be_v such_o as_o do_v in_o no_o measure_n yea_o i._o â—_o no_o measure_n of_o truth_n i._n e._n as_o to_o church-visibility_a or_o charitable_a hope_n for_o 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the_o synod_n describe_v or_o to_o more_o than_o so_o vid._n bucer_n de_fw-fr regno_fw-la christi_fw-la lib._n 1._o cap._n 2._o pag._n 14._o and_o in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o john_n in_o a_o excellent_a discourse_n concern_v infant_n baptism_n among_o many_o other_o useful_a passage_n he_o have_v these_o follow_v sunt_fw-la quidem_fw-la saâ—e_v inter_fw-la pueros_fw-la reprobi_fw-la etc._n etc._n there_o be_v indeed_o often_o among_o child_n some_o that_o be_v reprobate_n but_o while_o that_o do_v not_o appear_v to_o we_o we_o ought_v nevertheless_o to_o reckon_v they_o among_o the_o people_n of_o god_n and_o we_o shall_v time_n enough_o cast_v they_o out_o when_o by_o their_o evil_a fruit_n they_o shall_v open_o show_v we_o what_o they_o be_v bucer_n in_o joh._n fol._n 43._o and_o in_o another_o place_n quantum_fw-la equidem_fw-la assequi_fw-la possum_fw-la etc._n etc._n as_o far_o as_o i_o can_v gather_v say_v he_o the_o
invention_n why_o shall_v this_o be_v affirm_v and_o not_o prove_v for_o as_o for_o the_o person_n speak_v of_o they_o be_v not_o first_o admit_v when_o adult_n but_o before_o they_o be_v adult_n even_o in_o their_o infancy_n or_o minority_n and_o now_o be_v adult_n and_o yet_o never_o cut_v off_o or_o cast_v out_o from_o their_o church-relation_n if_o by_o sin_n they_o deserve_v church-censure_n and_o yet_o it_o be_v not_o apply_v to_o they_o but_o that_o in_o respect_n thereof_o they_o be_v let_v alone_o be_v they_o not_o then_o under_o that_o judgement_n hos._n 4_o of_o be_v â—eâ—_n alone_o in_o their_o wickedness_n and_o do_v not_o this_o neglect_v make_v way_n for_o irreligion_n and_o apostasy_n in_o church_n no_o churchway_n be_v use_v towards_o these_o for_o prevent_v thereof_o for_o we_o do_v not_o see_v any_o ground_n to_o think_v that_o the_o use_n of_o church_n discipline_n towards_o such_o be_v a_o humane_a invention_n for_o these_o particular_n to_o we_o do_v seem_v 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the_o reverend_a author_n will_v not_o grant_v this_o and_o yet_o he_o do_v not_o consent_n to_o the_o other_o but_o except_v against_o the_o proof_n of_o it_o for_o say_v he_o though_o this_o proposition_n seem_v to_o they_o plain_o yet_o it_o seem_v not_o sufficient_o clear_v by_o their_o proof_n 1._o from_o 1_o cor._n 11.28_o 29._o where_o it_o be_v require_v that_o such_o as_o come_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v able_a to_o examine_v themselves_o and_o discern_v the_o lord_n body_n else_o they_o will_v eat_v and_o drink_v unworthy_o and_o eat_v and_o drink_v judgement_n to_o themselves_o when_o they_o partake_v of_o this_o ordinance_n but_o this_o ability_n be_v too_o ofâ—â—n_o see_v to_o be_v want_v in_o the_o child_n of_o the_o covenant_n that_o grow_v up_o to_o year_n pag._n 16_o 17._o to_o this_o argument_n the_o reply_n of_o the_o reverend_a author_n be_v by_o way_n of_o concession_n and_o of_o exception_n his_o concession_n be_v two_o 1._o that_o the_o want_n of_o such_o 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than_o the_o servant_n since_o in_o the_o cafe_z allege_v the_o servant_n may_v trade_v under_o the_o freeman_n as_o well_o as_o the_o child_n may_v we_o suppose_v none_o will_v say_v this_o and_o therefore_o in_o this_o the_o comparison_n do_v not_o suit_v the_o case_n in_o hand_n the_o order_n and_o privilege_n of_o corporation_n be_v various_a according_a to_o the_o tenor_n of_o their_o several_a charter_n but_o what_o the_o charter_n of_o the_o church_n be_v we_o know_v viz._n that_o in_o gen._n 17._o it_o take_v in_o child_n into_o the_o church_n with_o their_o parent_n and_o do_v not_o allow_v they_o to_o be_v put_v out_o till_o censurable_a iniquity_n do_v appear_v 2._o if_o in_o some_o corporation_n one_o that_o be_v freeborn_a do_v lose_v his_o privilege_n when_o he_o become_v adult_n if_o he_o do_v not_o then_o enter_v personal_o into_o the_o engagement_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o certain_a that_o it_o be_v so_o in_o all_o sure_o no_o such_o thing_n be_v say_v of_o paul_n who_o 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