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be_v hold_v &_o they_o be_v they_o which_o be_v special_o grieve_v with_o he_o who_o yet_o for_o fear_n of_o his_o pride_n and_o tyranny_n dare_v not_o themselves_o alone_o accuse_v he_o as_o it_o be_v there_o signify_v the_o point_n be_v we_o see_v here_o at_o antioch_n the_o church_n that_o be_v the_o people_n concurrence_n and_o consent_n with_o other_o bishop_n and_o teacher_n near_o adjoin_v in_o the_o excommunication_n &_o deposition_n of_o one_o and_o in_o ordain_v to_o themselves_o another_o bishop_n after_o this_o again_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a decree_v nicen_n council_n nicen_n that_o the_o people_n shall_v choose_v their_o minister_n as_o appear_v where_o they_o say_v 330._o anno._n 330._o if_o any_o church_n minister_n die_v let_v one_o of_o the_o church_n succeed_v in_o his_o place_n so_o that_o he_o seem_v fit_a and_o be_v choose_v of_o the_o people_n and_o the_o bishop_n consent_n and_o confirm_v the_o people_n election_n 1.6_o election_n socrat._n 1.6_o this_o order_n be_v write_v by_o this_o council_n 1.9_o theodoret._n 1.9_o namely_o to_o the_o alexandrian_a church_n because_o of_o a_o particular_a occasion_n but_o it_o serve_v as_o a_o rule_n general_o for_o all_o place_n as_o the_o council_n be_v general_a which_o do_v plain_o appear_v by_o that_o which_o afterward_o the_o council_n of_o constantinople_n do_v in_o 9_o in_o theodores_fw-la â_o 9_o observe_v this_o nicen_n ordinance_n as_o a_o order_n belong_v to_o they_o about_o the_o year_n 420._o the_o four_o council_n of_o carthage_n decree_v thus_o 420._o thus_o council_n cartha_n 4_o cân_n 22_o au_n câc_fw-la 420._o eâââââpus_fw-la sine_fw-la concilio_n clericorum_fw-la suârum_fw-la cleâââs_fw-la non_fw-la ordinet_fw-la ita_fw-la ut_fw-la civium_fw-la assensum_fw-la &_o âââventiam_fw-la &_o testimonium_fw-la quarat_fw-la let_v ãâã_d a_o bishop_n ordain_v any_o clergyman_n wichout_v a_o assembly_n of_o his_o clergy_n so_o that_o let_v he_o ââeke_v the_o people_n consent_n and_o connivance_n and_o mimonie_n this_o canon_n will_v have_v minister_n make_v in_o no_o wise_a without_o the_o people_n consent_n contentment_n &_o testimony_n of_o their_o worthiness_n here_o d._n downame_n with_o little_a show_n but_o with_o great_a falsehood_n turn_v this_o word_n et_fw-la and_o into_o or_n say_v assent_n or_o connivance_n where_o he_o shall_v say_v assent_n and_o connivance_n as_o 24.25_o as_o pag_n 24.25_o before_o i_o brief_o touch_v whereby_o he_o will_v make_v the_o council_n seem_v to_o mean_v that_o either_o of_o these_o be_v sufficient_a in_o the_o make_n of_o minister_n &_o that_o their_o assent_n be_v not_o simple_o necessary_a but_o if_o they_o do_v connive_v or_o hold_v their_o peace_n the_o council_n be_v content_a and_o require_v no_o more_o but_o both_o the_o present_a word_n and_o all_o circumstance_n of_o these_o time_n do_v plain_o declare_v that_o the_o council_n here_o require_v in_o make_v minister_n the_o people_n express_a consent_n and_o testimony_n also_o of_o their_o worthiness_n as_o before_o i_o note_v of_o these_o time_n calvin_n say_v thus_o 4.4.10_o thus_o instiâ_n 4.4.10_o come_v parochin_n no_o ut_fw-la presbyter_n destinabantur_fw-la tunc_fw-la loci_fw-la multitudinem_fw-la nominatim_fw-la consentire_fw-la oportuit_fw-la when_o new_a presbyter_n be_v appoint_v to_o the_o parish_n than_o the_o people_n of_o the_o place_n must_v consent_v express_o this_o with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o council_n of_o carthage_n be_v confirm_v in_o the_o general_a council_n of_o constantinople_n hold_v in_o trullo_n about_o the_o year_n of_o christ_n 682._o 682._o conâll_n constantinop_n aâ_n 682._o wherefore_o so_o long_o &_o long_a also_o we_o may_v well_o think_v particular_a congregation_n keep_v their_o spiritual_a right_n and_o power_n in_o this_o behalf_n which_o calvin_n say_v be_v such_o that_o though_o the_o governor_n sometime_o do_v of_o themselves_o first_o choose_v and_o then_o bring_v the_o matter_n to_o the_o people_n yet_o 4.1â_n yet_o instie_n 4_o 4.1â_n they_o the_o people_n be_v not_o bind_v to_o those_o foreiudgement_n and_o when_o the_o church_n be_v deprive_v of_o this_o her_o right_n it_o be_v by_o he_o call_v impia_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la spoliatie_fw-mi quoties_fw-la alicui_fw-la popule_n ingeritur_fw-la episcopus_fw-la quem_fw-la non_fw-la petierit_fw-la aut_fw-la saltem_fw-la liberâ_fw-la voce_fw-la approbarit_fw-la it_o be_v a_o ungodly_a rob_n of_o the_o church_n so_o often_o as_o a_o pastor_n be_v putupon_o any_o people_n who_o they_o havenot_v desire_v or_o at_o least_o approve_a by_o free_a voice_n i_o grant_v by_o this_o time_n many_o great_a preparation_n be_v make_v to_o bring_v in_o that_o antichristian_a apostasy_n and_o tyranny_n which_o afterward_o follow_v and_o overflow_v every_o where_n howbeit_o yet_o thus_o long_o the_o church_n even_o by_o public_a law_n retain_v their_o life_n at_o least_o wise_a that_o injury_n and_o violence_n &_o spiritual_a robbery_n &_o tyranny_n which_o afterward_o prevayl_v against_o they_o as_o yet_o be_v not_o general_a it_o be_v to_o no_o purpose_n here_o to_o inquire_v when_o or_o by_o who_o this_o wrong_n first_o enter_v i_o mean_v this_o withhold_v from_o the_o people_n of_o god_n their_o free_a consent_n in_o spiritual_a government_n it_o be_v sufficient_a that_o we_o see_v this_o their_o freedom_n to_o be_v apostolical_a also_o to_o be_v teach_v and_o observe_v in_o the_o christian_a church_n next_o succeed_v the_o apostle_n yea_o even_o till_o after_o the_o time_n that_o antichrist_n begin_v the_o desolation_n of_o abhominarion_n which_o since_o have_v be_v everywhere_o set_v up_o &_o with_o strong_a hand_n maintain_v also_o that_o we_o see_v the_o most_o undoubted_a instrument_n of_o god_n in_o these_o late_a time_n so_o clear_o to_o avouch_v this_o most_o singular_a mean_n of_o overthrow_v antichrist_n and_o so_o earnest_o to_o defend_v it_o as_o they_o do_v viz._n as_o if_o without_o it_o there_o be_v neither_o any_o way_n to_o repel_v he_o at_o first_o nor_o security_n afterward_o for_o we_o to_o stand_v long_o against_o his_o uncessant_a endeavour_n labour_v still_o to_o return_v and_o tyrannize_v over_o our_o soul_n again_o this_o i_o say_v be_v sufficient_a for_o our_o present_a purpose_n at_o this_o time_n and_o in_o this_o place_n which_o also_o be_v well_o consider_v can_v not_o but_o cause_v every_o honest_a man_n to_o mourn_v and_o sigh_v before_o the_o lord_n behold_v this_o foundation_n of_o piety_n and_o godly_a life_n to_o be_v so_o despise_v yea_o so_o malign_v and_o resist_v as_o by_o many_o it_o be_v now_o among_o ourselves_o where_o the_o gospel_n be_v and_o have_v be_v entertain_v thanks_n be_v to_o god_n these_o many_o year_n fron_n which_o most_o just_a cause_n of_o grief_n it_o proceed_v also_o necessary_o that_o we_o can_v but_o open_v our_o mouth_n as_o we_o do_v to_o bear_v witness_n in_o the_o behalf_n of_o this_o cause_n of_o christ_n be_v also_o the_o only_a true_a and_o assure_a mean_n which_o do_v most_o near_o concern_v we_o as_o we_o well_o understand_v in_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o salvation_n of_o our_o soul_n and_o so_o much_o touch_v this_o point_n only_o this_o moreovet_n for_o a_o conclusion_n i_o desire_v may_v be_v hoere_n note_v the_o ground_n whereof_o i_o take_v out_o of_o our_o adversary_n namely_o whatsoever_o the_o whole_a church_n militant_a ever_o since_o the_o apostle_n have_v hold_v and_o be_v not_o institute_v by_o council_n but_o have_v be_v always_o retain_v that_o be_v most_o right_o believe_v to_o be_v deliver_v by_o the_o apostle_n the_o whole_a church_n militant_a over_o since_o the_o apostle_n have_v hold_v the_o people_n consent_n in_o then_o own_o church_n government_n &_o it_o be_v nor_o institute_v by_o council_n but_o it_o bathe_v be_v always_o retain_v therefore_o the_o people_n consent_n in_o their_o own_o church_n government_n be_v most_o right_o believe_v to_o be_v deliver_v and_o ordain_v by_o the_o apostle_n the_o first_o proposition_n be_v our_o adversary_n 258._o adversary_n pârpââ_n govern_v pag._n 258._o d._n bilson_n and_o â _o d._n downame_n do_v much_o magnify_v it_o out_o of_o 4_o of_o serm_n pag._n 56._o 57_o defen_n 4_o austin_n and_o we_o acknowledge_v it_o to_o be_v true_a the_o assumption_n be_v prove_v here_o before_o in_o this_o 5._o chapter_n so_o full_o and_o plentiful_o as_o any_o thing_n can_v be_v by_o humane_a record_n and_o testimony_n for_o we_o have_v none_o extant_a better_o they_o these_o at_o least_o by_o these_o it_o be_v prove_v so_o full_o as_o our_o adversary_n do_v intend_v in_o the_o proposition_n wherefore_o the_o conclusion_n be_v most_o certain_a and_o clear_a against_o they_o viz._n that_o the_o people_n consent_n in_o their_o own_o church_n government_n be_v a_o institution_n and_o ordinance_n of_o the_o apostle_n whence_o also_o consequent_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o those_o text_n of_o scripture_n usual_o allege_v for_o proof_n of_o the_o same_o 76._o mention_v also_o pag._n 76._o and_o which_o i_o
people_n of_o every_o church_n always_o aught_o to_o have_v by_o christ_n and_o the_o apostle_n ordinance_n as_o 3.4.5_o as_o pag._n 19_o &_o chap._n 3.4.5_o before_o we_o have_v see_v nay_o to_o come_v near_o no_o proper_a and_o perfect_a diocesan_n church_n or_o large_a ever_o do_v or_o do_v admit_v the_o people_n free_a consent_n in_o their_o ordinary_a government_n universal_o and_o always_o it_o be_v so_o &_o indeed_o it_o can_v not_o be_v otherwise_o for_o where_o each_o ordinary_a congregation_n have_v their_o free_a consent_n in_o their_o ordinary_a government_n there_o certain_o each_o congregation_n be_v a_o entire_a and_o independent_a body_n politic_a spiritual_a and_o be_v endue_v with_o power_n in_o itself_o immediate_o under_o christ_n and_o so_o every_o of_o they_o be_v true_a &_o proper_a church_n so_o that_o these_o congregation_n admit_v not_o where_o they_o be_v any_o proper_a diocesan_n church_n or_o large_a neither_o do_v the_o proper_a diocesan_n church_n or_o large_a admit_v entire_a and_o independent_a ordinary_a congregation_n which_o as_o i_o say_v have_v their_o free_a consent_n in_o their_o ordinary_a government_n they_o be_v indeed_o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d such_o as_o 23.25_o as_o reas._o for_o ãâã_d form_n pag._n 23.25_o can_v stand_v together_o possible_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v likewise_o that_o which_o heretofore_o 8â_n heretofore_o ibid_fw-la pag._n 8â_n i_o have_v affirm_v and_o so_o do_v still_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n there_o be_v not_o any_o diocesan_n church_n or_o large_a to_o be_v find_v which_o point_n though_o i_o have_v in_o my_o declaration_n prove_v it_o by_o this_o and_o 6._o other_o reason_n yet_o i_o will_v here_o draw_v it_o into_o this_o syllogism_n again_o no_o church_n hold_v the_o people_n free_a consent_n in_o their_o ordinary_a government_n with_o just_a and_o decent_a order_n be_v diocesan_n or_o large_a every_o visible_a church_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n hold_v the_o people_n free_a consent_n in_o their_o ordinary_a government_n with_o just_a and_o decent_a order_n therefore_o no_o visible_a church_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v diocesan_n or_o large_a the_o first_o proposition_n be_v manifest_a of_o itself_o and_o i_o have_v show_v it_o more_o etc._n more_o pag._n 84_o 8â_n 86._o etc._n etc._n full_o before_o the_o assumption_n or_o 2._o proposition_n be_v at_o large_a prove_v &_o confirm_v in_o those_o place_n which_o be_v note_v in_o the_o margin_n before_o viz._n pag._n 19_o and_o be_v mention_v again_o particular_o pag._n 76._o to_o which_o purpose_n also_o the_o whole_a 3.4_o &_o 5._o chap._n do_v help_n where_o i_o be_o to_o add_v moreover_o that_o this_o conclusion_n be_v true_a not_o only_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n but_o also_o in_o the_o age_n follow_v a_o long_a while_n after_o that_o be_v no_o such_o diocesan_n church_n be_v find_v till_o 420._o year_n after_o christ_n yea_o till_o 680._o and_o more_o be_v pass_v which_o i_o show_v before_o in_o the_o end_n of_o the_o five_o chap._n as_o also_o i_o touch_v it_o in_o my_o declaration_n pag._n 24.25_o but_o let_v it_o be_v remember_v that_o here_o i_o speak_v precise_o of_o proper_a diocesan_n church_n and_o large_a there_o be_v therefore_o necessary_o a_o distinction_n to_o be_v make_v of_o diocesan_n church_n there_o be_v proper_a diocesan_n church_n and_o large_a &_o there_o be_v improper_a the_o proper_a diocesan_n church_n and_o large_a be_v where_o the_o people_n have_v no_o power_n free_o to_o consent_v in_o the_o affair_n of_o their_o ordinary_a church_n government_n the_o improper_a diocesan_n church_n and_o large_a be_v where_o although_o there_o be_v a_o kind_n of_o diocesan_n or_o large_a consociation_n of_o many_o ordinary_a congregation_n in_o spiritual_a government_n under_o one_o general_a presidencie_n or_o superiority_n yet_o the_o ordinary_a congregation_n have_v their_o free_a consent_n at_o least_o they_o have_v nothing_o by_o their_o spiritual_a 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faithful_a servante_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o judgement_n of_o all_o honest_a and_o sound_n christian_n from_o the_o most_o injurious_a slander_n give_v out_o by_o d._n downame_n and_o other_o adversary_n to_o our_o reproach_n among_o the_o ignorant_a as_o namely_o where_o they_o call_v we_o shismatike_n innovator_n enemy_n of_o unity_n etc._n etc._n when_o man_n shall_v perceive_v that_o we_o be_v indeed_o teach_v these_o assertion_n which_o we_o hold_v not_o to_o speak_v of_o the_o scripture_n out_o of_o zuinglius_fw-la luther_n bucer_n f._n martyr_n viret_n musculus_fw-la bullinger_n gualther_n chemnieius_n vrsinus_n junius_n danaeus_n calvin_n and_o beza_n with_o many_o other_o like_o rare_a man_n of_o god_n all_o consent_v together_o in_o the_o substance_n of_o these_o point_n as_o before_o i_o have_v show_v more_o at_o large_a than_o it_o will_v be_v a_o sufficient_a satisfaction_n to_o they_o on_o our_o behalf_n and_o our_o adversary_n shall_v find_v it_o to_o be_v well_o with_o they_o if_o they_o themselves_o can_v stand_v clear_a of_o the_o say_a crime_n of_o schism_n novelty_n enmity_n to_o unity_n peace_n and_o truth_n of_o the_o gospel_n nay_o very_o they_o can_v not_o stand_v clear_a of_o these_o crime_n last_o of_o all_o these_o our_o worthy_a attestator_n &_o teacher_n shall_v i_o hope_v likewise_o yet_o have_v so_o much_o credit_n and_o honour_n yield_v to_o they_o in_o england_n that_o their_o disciple_n shall_v not_o for_o their_o doctrine_n only_o be_v afflict_v imprison_a and_o more_o severe_o punish_v then_o those_o that_o profess_v to_o be_v the_o disciple_n of_o the_o romish_a enemy_n a_o enemy_n indeed_o not_o conceit_a both_o to_o christ_n to_o our_o king_n &_o the_o realm_n in_o which_o hope_n and_o full_a persuasion_n i_o humble_o commend_v all_o this_o that_o i_o have_v lud_n to_o god_n holy_a providence_n &_o gracious_a blessing_n &_o to_o all_o christian_n chatable_a &_o upright_o judgement_n to_o god_n only_o wise_a through_o jesus_n christ_n be_v praise_n for_o ever_o and_o ever_o amen_o a_o addition_n that_o the_o abuser_n of_o mai._n beza_n and_o mai._n calvin_n about_o mat._n 18.17_o may_v see_v their_o ill_n do_v i_o think_v good_a to_o set_v down_o here_o some_o more_o of_o their_o testimony_n a_o part_n by_o themselves_o which_o show_v plain_o that_o howsoever_o they_o seem_v sometime_o to_o speak_v not_o so_o wary_o as_o they_o may_v touch_v the_o word_n ecclesia_fw-la in_o this_o place_n calling_z it_o the_o church-senat_n or_o presbytery_n yet_o their_o true_a and_o right_a meaning_n indeed_o be_v that_o here_o ecclesia_fw-la signifi_v not_o the_o church_n senat_n only_o &_o mere_o as_o some_o obstinate_o charge_v they_o to_o mean_v they_o do_v here_o in_o this_o word_n comprehend_v also_o the_o people_n and_o their_o power_n of_o free_a consent_n in_o excommunication_n which_o be_v the_o matter_n speak_v of_o by_o christ_n in_o this_o place_n of_o math._n i_o say_v here_o in_o this_o word_n they_o include_v the_o people_n also_o &_o teach_v that_o they_o must_v be_v tell_v and_o that_o they_o must_v be_v hearken_v unto_o in_o a_o degree_n &_o in_o a_o certain_a order_n viz._n mediate_o &_o final_o they_o intend_v not_o that_o christ_n here_o commit_v this_o business_n to_o the_o presbytery_n only_o and_o absolute_o thus_o say_v beza_n upon_o this_o word_n 18.17_o word_n bez._n annotat_fw-la in_o mat._n 18.17_o doceo_fw-la aristocratiam_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la novum_fw-la institutum_fw-la dei_fw-la verbo_fw-la &_o democratiae_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la repugnans_fw-la sicut_fw-la nonnull_v ex_fw-la unicâ_fw-la voculâ_fw-la temerè_fw-la arreptâ_fw-la sunt_fw-la arbitrati_fw-la and_o present_o before_o âe_n say_v neque_fw-la verò_fw-la oligarchiam_fw-la velim_fw-la in_o âcclesiam_fw-la dei_fw-la invehi_fw-la quae_fw-la illam_fw-la tantopere_fw-la deârmavit_fw-la atque_fw-la adeò_fw-la penitùs_fw-la transformavit_fw-la also_o 16.18_o also_o in_o mat._n 16.18_o vocabulo_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la significari_fw-la civium_fw-la ânventum_fw-la nemo_fw