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A19569 A triall of our church-forsakers. Or A meditation tending to still the passions of unquiet Brownists, upon Heb.10.25 Wherein is iustified, against them, that the blessed Church of England 1 Is a true Church. 2 Hath a true ministry. 3 Hath a true worship. By Robert Abbot ... Abbot, Robert, 1588?-1662? 1639 (1639) STC 60; ESTC S100380 140,135 286

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was come home to God command Iudah to serve the God of Israel Did not Iosiah cause and make his people to stand to his covenant to serve even to serve the Lord our God Is it not lawfull for good Princes in reforming to follow these examples may not they binde their people some way by oath bond subscription or taking and giving hands for better performance of duties of religion why may not our good Princes follow those old patternes in reforming They say because it is not found in the new testament Bee it so yet it is found in the old testament and not condemned in the new nor any other order prescribed in such a case Surely seeing in this new devised way they will bee tried by none but the new testament they shall be cast at this bar in their own courses Let them give but one text to prove any man called or ordained to a Pastours office in the church by a company of private men alone and I shall give them another text to prove any thing they please I can yet reade of none but Apostles Evangelists and the eldership that made ministers there If they can shew no text I am sure they have no such Pastours as they ought but I am sure we have true kings who have power in reforming to compell wicked people to be better then they are because they beare not the sword for nought Yea but say they lastly put case they entred upon necessarie knowledge that they made a covenant in receiving the word and sacraments that they were voluntarily or forced yet lawfull professours when they stated a visible church yet they were many of them baptized when they were the seed of them that were not members of the visible church Conceive it thus If a man be a member of the visible church then his children have a right to baptisme before they actually professe the faith by vertue of that promise I will be thy God and the God of thy seede But if hee bee not a member of a visible church as a Iew Turke or Pagan then have they no right to it before they actually confesse as the Eunuch did Now the Brownists keeping a great coile about the jointing of members into a church as if it were all one to be jointed into the body of Christ coapted and fitted to our head Christ for life and salvation and to bee a member of the visible church in outward communion and fellowship of Christ for the outward priviledges of the church they have I say espied among many others this one crime in the Dutch and French churches that they baptize the seede of them that are no members of the visible church much more when they looke upon us whom they account not members of a true visible church must they quarrell if all bee of his mind if our first reformers be not members of a true visible church and yet their children are baptized before they are of yeares to professe their owne faith SECT 9. A question by the way about baptizing Bastards of impenitent Christians I Confesse I never yet talked with any Brownist about this particular yet because I finde too many conscious people hanging after forraigne novelties and gazing upon with admiration the membring and dismembring in visible churches who when they heare of Christians lawfully begotten children denied baptisme beginne to wonder that christians bastards should be admitted Therefore to cleare both as God shall in able I shall labour to satisfie others as I have done some in this question whether bastards are baptizable while their mothers are in their sinnes of adultery or fornication and whether men ought not to stay their baptisme untill they be reconciled to God in open church which is publickely scandalized by her fact and from which she hath dismembred her selfe by her misdeed In this I finde two questions inwrapt in one whether bastards are baptizable and whether men ought not to stay such baptisme till the harlot bee reconciled to God and this be done in the open church scandalized from which by her fact she hath cut herselfe off by her sinne I shall first labour to state these questions and then the cases will more easily appeare The estate of the first may be thus set By bastards such children are meant as come not into the world by lawfull acts of marriage and by baptizable is meant such as have a right to the sacrament of baptisme in the church And the question is not whether bastards in generall are baptizable for so it is certaine that all are not as the bastards of Iewes Turkes and Pagans who have no right to baptisme but by personall confession But the question is whether the bastards of the professours at large in a christian church which is in covenant with God for the outward priviledge of the church at least have right to baptisme of these the inquiry is because in the second part of this question is spoken of the mothers reconciling to God in the open church offended The state of the second question must be laid by considering two things 1 The persons enquired of· 2 The duty of these persons The persons enquired of are Men and it is too generall a terme For it cannot meane any men of that assembly where such a bastard is presented for they have no authority knowne to mee from scriptures to meddle in any censure ecclesiasticall These onely are to meddle heere who are sent and inspired with delegated service and mininistery from Christ either immediately or mediately Neither can it meane the Pastors and deputed teachers of that assembly for they have but a dependent authority according to the lawes of Eutaxy and good order in the church Presbiters under Bishops Bishops under Synods Synods under Councels and Councels under the word of Christ in plaine scriptures Our highest appeale is to our head Christ Iesus For if ordinary Pastours had such independent power in such cases thinke whether it would not set up a Pope in every parish especially considering that wee have neither precept nor president in all the new testament of such power given to any assembly or Presbiter that ever I could yet finde By men ther●fore wee must understand the publick governours of that church that is the King Prince state Bishop and convocation by their lawes ecclesiasticall for the good of the church The question enquires of those in respect of order decree and command and of these in respect of Canons and executions accordingly Thus I take up the minde of the question or else I know not what it would have Next consider in the question the duty of these persons whether they ought to stay bastards from baptisme By this two things may bee meant denying baptisme but no man would utterly exclude such and suspending baptisme and of this is the question for it makes a double limitation first till the harlot be reconciled to God In this
his church as well as the master of a family may command his steward to order his whole family that the private worship in his family be not dishonoured This ads both to the glory and strength of a church to the glory of it when kings are nourcing fathers and to the strength of it when the power of a king is the churches for the suppressing of vice and maintenance of vertue But then say they they may enjoine their owne inventions in stead of Gods will I answer that the inventions of men are of two sorts of things contrary to the word of Christ as worshipping of images invocation of saints forbidding marriage and meats as these things which directly pollute persons or times or the like These are impious and it these are enjoined christians must patiently suffer and lovingly mourne till in the day of Judgment God fanne away the chaffe But there are others which in their owne nature are indifferent neither commanded nor forbidden by God and of which Christ saith hee that is not against us is with us In these the christian magistrate hath a power for order and uniformity For if Godly persons may bring up customes in the times of Gods worship as the Jewes did their Purim and if Christians may order what garments women may weare when they come to church which Paul after allowed why may not the christian magistrate for the peace of his whole body But then say they this makes things arbitrary and indifferent to become necessary This is true but you must conceive that a thing may bee said to bee necessary two waies necessary in it selfe and necessary in the outward submission to the use of it In it selfe a thing indifferent cannot bee made necessary It is alwaies as it is by nature and conscience informed must so judge it yet in the outward use for the peace of the Church it may upon command become necessary After the death of Christ till the destruction of the temple abstaining from things strangled and bloud circumcision legall vowes and purifyings were indifferent in themselves for else the Apostles would not have used them so yet for the peace of some churches they were judged necessary to be yeelded in love and so may it bee in other things yet the indifferent nature of things is not taken away but the necessary use prescribed for the peace of the church upon better grounds then that wee should suffer our selves to be unsetled from royall power But againe say they then kings may require such things as swarve from some holy patternes wee have in the scriptures and so by granting this governement wee shall bee ill to helpe I say howsoever they use it wee must grant what God hath given as they are all the keepers of both the tables If they use it well thou must obey in the Lord If ill thy prayers and teares must be thy weapons and thy body must suffer his penalties and it is praise worthy for thee to suffer not in a supposed good cause but in a good cause without controversie which is not the case of sufferers in these dayes of peace and the Gospel so farre as I know but for in●oynements swar●ing from patternes I finde this in scriptures that Godly men have swarved from patternes not seconded by a perpetuall law which might seeme to bind stron●ly The Jewes sate at the passover in Christs t●me or rather lay leaning though the first gesture was standing or walking and godly men and women communicate in the morning and in a Church though the first patterne was otherwise yea th●s is plaine that Gods ceremonies might in some cases be dispensed withall without sinne much more may men bee unlosed from patternes which are not the examples of a law binding so I know it will be said that the examples of Gods people commended by the holy Ghost are every whit of as great ●orce as a command It is true if they be examples of a rule otherwise they shew things lawfull but not things necessary Solomon indeede sayes walke in the way of good men and keepe the waies of the righteous But good men and righteous men are so with respect to Gods law after which they walke otherwise they are not so though b●ng so good they may give a patterne of that which is lawfull but not necessary My conclusion is this that the Chur●h hath power to governe it se● by particular lawes in matters of substance and by g●neral in the outward carriage of order comlinesse and edification And when a king as head of governement under Christ puts in ●his authority and power for seeing things carried within the churches of his kingdome according to these rules hee is a prime officer under Christ by Christs owne promise and appointment whatsoever Brownists can say against it If they wil stil stand against it for few of them are found so humble as to search and yeeld they cannot but know this that in breaking the lawes of men that are not against Christ they sinne against conscience And as magistrates are incouraged to bee great helps to religion by obedience so by the contrary they are provoked to trouble This therefore is a sure rule that a Christian that will not study to be quiet in respect of the laws of men what possible he can is a singular burthen to the Church in which he lives SECT 11. Brownists fourth exception against us about the members of our Church WEe are now come from the Brownists meaning by a true Church and their entrance into and head of a true church to the members of a true church Heere they take on amaine that the true members of a true Church ought to be saints by calling whereas ours are a mixture of good and bad penitent and impenitent to the pollution of the whole body and that therefore we are not a true church But this still discovers strange weaknesse For put case a man had never a good finger nor hand never a good toe nor foote never a haire on head or beard or if he have all his members yet he hath the palsie in one the goute in another blindenesse in another deafenesse in another botches in another numnesse and deadnesse in another is hee therefore no true man Surely hee is a true man still though a miserable one So is it in a visible church many members may bee weake and many wicked as well as some truely gracious and yet in the whole body a true church still Peter and Iohn met with a beggar at the gate of the temple called Beautifull who was faine to be carried because he was lame from his mothers wombe and yet the holy Ghost calls him a certaine man and Paul met with an Apostolicall Church in Corinth which was worse in many members then that poore cripple was and yet hee called it a true church of God for the God of truth
teaching them to observe what ever I have commanded and I am with you alwaies to the end of the world The promise is as the charge to the Apostles and their successours and not to the people in businesse that concernes them not Againe I will give thee the keyes of the kingdome of heaven saith Christ to Peter in the name of the rest and therefore makes good his word to them all he sent them inspired them and then said whose sinnes ye remit or retaine shall be remitted or retained It would be strange after this commission to heare of a power of governing in the people especially seeing for the executing of it Christ gave officers to his church and not to his church power to make them hee gave them to his church to bee in Christs stead to direct and rule by his word and not to bee directed and ruled by it Therefore if any thing be out of order he blameth them not the people I contended with the Rulers and nobles saith Nehemiah and to the Angels of churches speakes Christ sharpely for things amisse And for the people Christ would not have them rule but to be subject to magistrates and spirituall overseers This I am confident of that there cannot one precept or practise be given that the people should or did rule in the church but under their guides and teachers except Corah and his accomplices who were swallowed up in wrath As for that text tell the church and that other of the incestuous person we shall meete with them in their proper places In the meane time know that the sonne of man hath left his house and given authority to his servants for edification not for destruction and not to his house which is the church The people are still called sheep brethren houshold of faith spouse and children but their teachers are knowne by the name of Elders Overseers and Fathers on whom the governement lies But say the Brownists the saints are answereable to the kings of old who are to have power ecclesiasticall in their hands Indeed they are so called but not in respect of any outward power over others more then before but of inward power to rule by the annointing of Christ over their own pride and corruption This they will not doe and so speake evill of them in authority and advance themselves above the pitch which God hath given there It is a brave thing to rule and who would not doe so But if they were Davids weaned childe they would rather bee subject by doing and suffering then lift up themselves to high places of governement from whence they may fall to their shame and sorrow Lastly whereas they put into the end of their assembling not onely the exercise of governement whereof they have none and preaching prayer sacraments which are good indeed if done by right persons and in right manner but prophecying too surely herein they walke not with a right foote according to the truth of the scriptures They make prophecying an act of some private persons whereby as the spirit moves them they put in in publicke their verdicts with their Pastours and Doctours about the sence doctrine and application of the scriptures propounded but how Christs word makes this good to them I cannot see nor ever shall Indeed the Apostle speakes of prophecying but as of an office of some persons then not of an ordinary gift now He saith let the prophets speake two or three and I am sure that prophets have an office to prophecy Hee saith also prophecying is a speaking to men to exhortation edification and comfort and I pray what can the highest gift of preaching doe more If they may preach why may they not administer the sacraments seeing both goe together They cannot say that to preach is an act of office and to prophecy is an act out of office For where the Apostle speakes expressely of prophecying according to the proportion of faith hee doth speak as plainly of offices as of gifts If therefore they will prophecy let them shew their calling to that office and then vent their gifts Doe they doe it by vertue of their generall or speciall calling They deny any speciall calling and wee denie that they doe it by vertue of the generall calling of a christian because that gives not the office How much better were it for them to follow the word of Christ no man taketh this honour to himselfe but he that is called of God as Aaron then by jumbling ordinary and extraordinary gifts and offices together to utter things for want of knowledge wisedome reading and doctrine unworthy of the great God of assemblies Thus have I considered the foure parcels of which the Brownists make up a true visible None of which singly nor all jointly can make our blessed church not to be so because they are made up of divers falshoods already discovered Let us now take better view out of Gods word what a true visible church is that in it we may see our owne A true visible churth is men called and united in the profession of the truth according to the scriptures This is alwaies where there is a true visible church either planted or continued or restored If it be nationall it is a company of people professing truth in an whole land as the churches of Iudea Samaria and Galile with those of Asia If it be Parochial it is a company of people professing the truth in a towne or parish as in those where the Apostles ordained elders in every church If it be domesticall it is a company professing the truth in a family as in Philemons house and others It is true that the truth may bee more purely professed in one church then in another more purely in Smyrna and Philadelphia which were praised and lesse purely in Ephesus Sardis and Laodicea which were dispraised It is true also that some churches may be in infancy and so lesse perfect as that in Creta where Titus was left to redresse things amisse and those churches of the Gentiles which must not bee troubled for feare of a rent and some of riper age as that at Ierusalem where Iames was Bishop and the Apostles held a councel and so had a more setled forme of governement and that of Philippi which had their Bishops and Deacons But if they joine to professe the truth of Christ they are true visible churches First they ramble as sheep without a shepheard without God without Christ Christ makes himselfe knowne unto them by the preaching of the word They assemble as those that professe to seeke salvation that way some more closely some more loosely They publickely submit to the word of God and Sacraments and calling on the name of the Lord. These persons thus professing make up a true visible church either in a kingdome city town or
inflicted for parents sinnes Though the baptisme of children of believers is not to remunerate them for their parents righreousnesse but a blessing upon them for Gods promise sake to believers yet to deprive infants of it meerely for parents sake is a punishment for parents sinnes Thirdly they say that the Prophet Ezekiel speaks of actuall sinnes of great ones and not of little childrens sinnes and when they have sayd thus they confesse it is not to the purpose heere Yet consider this point Can any man be guilty of the personal sinne of another with whom onely there is communion of suffering and not of sinning God forbid and yet such is the case of infants from us Lastly they aske what danger is it if bastards should bee unbaptized till they are of yeares I answer there are dangers more then one The danger of injustice at large in withholding a right from them yea may I not call it sacriledge The danger of the neglect of this ordinance which is the ordinary way of God for entrance into the visible church And the danger of elevating baptisme above the mind of Christ who will have grace offered to all entring christians in it yea and given by way of promise and covenant which shall not faile to the receivers Lastly they yet finde another reason against Objection 7 them that though the parents of bastards have greatly sinned yet we ought to judge charitably of them and of their children I lay it downe otherwise thus They who at least in the judgement of charity are christians ought not to have their children kept from baptisme but the parents of bastards in a christian church are at least in the judgement of charity christians for otherwise they were rebaptizable therefore their children ought not to be kept from baptisme Now take their answer They say the judgement of charity ought alwaies to be according to truth This is true of truth probably presumed But what doe they assume that whoremongers and harlots cannot bee judged such while they are in their sinnes which make them unbelievers But say I pray Is their sin properly against faith or manners Is the bad working or idlenesse of faith in this sinne against manners of such power as utterly to roote out their doctrinall faith which yet is sufficient to intitle their children to baptisme If they answer but these demands well they shall see their owne errours Thus have I taken in by the way a view of th●s question which ●s not an every day doubt and is usefull ●or the quieting of many godly persons in this particular and my conclusion is this That in the reforming of our visible church which consisted of visible christians before though much out of order wee their seed in their right and so in a right of our owne were more purely baptized and so made true members of our true visible church whatsoever Brownists plead to the contrary For as bastards of christian parents have a right to bee baptized into their parents christianity so much more had wee into ours Our predecessours had a state whereof they repented and so have these of which they should If neither of them repented as they should yet were both of them true christians and so both their posterities were rightly baptized and made true members of a true visible church i● not for such governement as Brownists dreame of yet to be governed as members of Gods house for conviction or conversion to life SECT 10. Brownists third exception against us about the head of our Church WEe having now done what the Brownists do mean by a true church and the falsitie of it and with the entrance into it wee are now come unto their third exception taken from the head of a true visible church They finde from time to time our kings to interpose their authority over every particular assembly in our church for the keeping of them in pious and peaceable wayes according to the lawes of God and our church and common-wealth and because they fansie no visible churches but particular congregations which must bee fully furnished from Christ with power of governing themselves and they doe perceive withall that the supreame authority of a king over churches doth according to kingly duty hinder their erecting of new waies and tie them up to observe the laudable customes of the church therefore as if they willingly subscribed to the speech of Gallio that wicked deputy of Achaia If it were a matter of wrong or wicked lewdnesse O yee Iewes reason would that I should beare with you but if it be a question of words and names and of your law looke yee to it for I will be no judge of such matters they cry out wee have no head but Christ he shall rule over us we will wait upon him onely but you have another head and that is the king whose lawes you follow for government of the church and upon whom ye do depend for building or pulling downe whatsoever Christs law saith Now to pricke and open this blister consider 1 That Christ is the head of the catholicke Church 2 That Christ is the head of particular Churches 3 That Christ is the head of our church 4 That the headship of the king doth not hinder but helpe this and that according to Christs word That Christ is the head of the catholicke church no christian will deny or if hee doe he will bee convinced by scriptures which teach him to bee the head of the body even his church He hath in him most perfectly whatsoever may be for the life and salvation of his church He hath all things subjected to him for the behoofe of his church He takes up all debates suites quarrels and controversies betwixt God and his church as a counsellour advocate yea husband for his wife Hee is the Prince of our salvation the proper fountaine of all spiriruall life and governement No head is such an head as hee is Politicall heads give the influence of civill favour Oeconomicall heads of houshold and wedlocke favours but this all-sufficient spirituall head of saying favours spiritual blessings in heavenly things This therefore is certaine that thousands in this catholicke church doe runne into folly rebellion and blasphemy Into folly because they doe things without the generall or particular direction of Christ Christ is not in all their counsels Into rebellion because they doe things against the direction of Christ let Christ say what he will they will do what they list Into blasphemy because they think not Christs counsel worth the while s● long as they can shift without it it is good when they are sicke but if well it is but as Elias to Ahab a troubler of Israel These may be in the catholicke church they are not of it because Christ is not their head by infusion of grace Secondly it is true also that he is the head of particular churches and visible assemblies Therefore
of substance and in matters of circumstance In matters of substance it hath power to governe it selfe by ordering concerning the Word Sacraments and Prayer so as to make them most comfortable concerning Church Offices from time to time and duties of charity concerning the Churches censures publike assemblies and oversight that all these bee done to the honour of Christ and advancement of religion In matters of Circumstances it hath power to ordaine some outward rites and ceremonies for the outward carriage of Gods worship In the Church of Antioch there was a question a-about Circumcision an uselesse because dying ceremony then The Apostles Elders and brethren at Ierusalem by their consent and to encourage them in grace consulted about it and delivered their judgement as a rule for the Church to follow They disanulled the ceremony of Circumcision in those Churches troubled and establish others for a time as abstaining from meate offered to Idoles and bloud which yet in themselves were but things indifferent For meate commendeth us not to God for neither if we eate are we the better neither if we eate not are wee the worse Againe in the Church of Corinth there was a custome which grew to a publicke order in the Church of covering and uncovering to signifie the headship and soveraignty of the man and the subjection of the woman This was countenanced by the Apostle for the peace of the Church and other otders established Yea when he purposely treateth of acts of ordinary and extraordinary worship hee gives them rules for the government and outward carriage of them let all things bee done to edyfyng and let all things be done decently and in order Thus in matters of substance hath Christ made his Church able to governe it selfe by particular rules and in matters of circumstance by generall rules of edification order and decency Secondly he hath also made Kings prime officers to advance this governement in their places That hee hath made them Church-officers must be thus taken up Not strictly as Ministers who have the highest hand under Christ in the Word Sacraments and keyes of censures Ecclesiasticall but largely as those that are to care for good order about them The offices of ruling and governing which Paul speakes of cannot be proved not to belong to them They are Ministers for our good and our good is not chiefely civil I hope but spirituall The Apostle would have us pray for them that we may not onely live in civill honesty but in Godlinesse to bee countenanced and established by them Surely being members of Church they cannot but be chiefe ones too as being Christs Lieftenants who according to his promise are to bee nursing fathers and their queenes nurcing mothers who have their authority breasts and duggs to reach the neede of all under them to cherish and feede the Church of Christ according to his rules It is true they are servants to the Church and all good Kings doe so acknowledge themselves but not to be equals or subjects to the members of the Church but to make their prime authority serviceable to the advancement of the Gospel for the salvation of Christs people Hence is it that God hath given them a sword that when they oversee the waies of the Church within their reach they may maintaine the rights of it and by a coactive and coercive power suppresse the opposites for without this they cannot be the ministers of God for our good But say the Brownists wherein stands this office of Kings in the Church and over the members of it I answer first in calling of assemblies both civill and sacred The two silver Trumpets wer given to Moses the magistrate and least we should looke upon him as some extraordinary person we see that right maintained by Ioshua David Solomon Iehoshaphat Hezekiah and Iosiah Secondly in abolishing false worship and establishing true as we see in Asa Iosiah Hezikiah Thirdly in looking to the ministry both that it bee sound and good as Solomon who thereupon deposed Abiathar and put Sadock in his roome as hee performed other acts of justice by royall authority and Iehosaphat who sent his princes to see that the Priests and Levites did teach the law of God in their cities and that the ministery bee maintained according to the honours that God hath bestowed upon them as Solomon Hezekiah Iosiah and Nehemiah Fourthly in causing the people to serve the Lord as Hezekiah and compelling all that were round in Israel formerly professing Gods religion to seeke the Lord as Iosiah and Asa Their people were in the house of God committed to their charge and they will see them to live according to the order set by God Lastly in appointing consistories for the well ordering of the people as Iehoshaphat who set over the Levites and Priests and chiefe of the families of Israel for the judgement and cause of the Lord at Ierusalem All this is true say they of the Jewish kings who were types of Christ but wee reade of no such officers in the new testament These men are liberall in making types of Christs kingdome but I wonder whence they will prove it what word of Christ will they bring for it It is true that in some things some of the kings of Iudah were types of Christ as Salomon in his name and building the the temple and David in his troubles and victories and as hee was a king and a prophet but that all the kings of Iudah were types in their governements over the church and state even Saul himselfe when God made him head of the tribes cannot bee proved for Gods truth And whereas they talke of no such officers in the new testament Say it bee so there were no christian Magistrates while those scriptures were in writing and Christ knew them to be sufficiently instructed in the old This is a sure rule that what is warranted in the old testament and not contradicted in the old or new may as the warrant goes either by precept for things necessary or paterne for things lawfull goe for currant still But seeing the new testament saith that wee must pray for kings that by their authority wee may live in godlinesse as by those that are over us for our good spirituall and temporall surely they have warrant enough to use their power over all their people to advance godlinesse and the good of religion as well as justice But say they it is for Christ not for kings to appoint orders about his worship This is true for substantiall orders for these thas are in the will of Christ may not be altered but for matters of circumstance which concerne time place and outward forme not determined kings are bound as supreame members of the church over which they are to use christian consistories to order them so as may agree to the condition of
servant therefore neither the Apostles nor their successors must as Lords rule over the flocke of Christ or over one another Stay heere Christ affoords no such conclusion Hee is pleased to oppose not Kings and Bishops which are in excellent subordination either to other but Gentiles and Christians and he doth not abolish magistracy from Christianity for then his Apostles were ill schollars who taught that higher powers are ordained of God and that they must be obeyed by all under them neither would he abolish an inequality of ministery in the Church for hee himselfe I hope had superiority over his disciples ye cal me master and Lord and ye say well for so I am yea and hee himselfe made first Apostles secondly Prophets thirdly teachers which implies an order degree and subordination either to other neither doth hee heere forbid that his disciples should bee utterly excluded from dealing in any matter of right in the Common wealth for then they could easily have replied Lord wee desire not to meddle in secular affaires but to have superiority over one another in the Church But hee labours to prevent the wicked customes of heathen kings in Christian Common-wealthes and Churches that is their ruling by their owne lusts and wills and their ruling for their owne ends without respect to the peoples goods This is to play the Lords to domineere over the people as if they were their vassals and themselves had all Lordship paramount that could bee imagined Now can any man not soaked in malice or prejudice say that our Bishops rule thus like heathens with force and crueltie when they governe according to the lawes and Canons of Church and Common-wealth Is not this to rule with the consent of the people in the lawes of the Common-wealth and with the consent of the presbyterie in the Canons of the Church Yea but now for the exercise of this governement of the Church it is say the Brownists fearefully abused by the Bishops in three particulars 1 In shouldering out such officers in the Church as Christ hath ordained 2 In imposing oathes upon good men to accuse themselves 3 And in base usage of the high censure of excommunication Put case all these were true were this a sufficient cause of separation was Christ no master when his purse-bearer betrayed him and the rest of his servants runne away from him Is his ●eamelesse coate to bee rent in sunder because some of those about him have cast some spots upon it Because they may if they will accuse themselves will they therefore accuse Christ as if his bounty in our Church were not worth the injoyment Because one thing is not well used in the punishment of vice shall all things be neglected and spu●ned at that are amongst us for the maintenance of vertue yea shall the holy spirit of God assistant in the meanes of salvation amongst us be belyed as if all the grace they have gotten amongst us were no grace till they had discarded us as some of them doe But let us take a viewe of the particulars and see whether it be so or no and how far First they say that Bishops justle out Christs officers out of the Church And who are these They tell us first of Elders lay governing Elders who should have power in the censures of the church and all matters of order Indeed they had wont to tell us of these much But since Master Smith once of their Church hath pulled downe that tottering wall by proving that there can bee but one sort of Elders proved from the scripture that is Pastours whose governing duty is to feede the flocke of God and that the Apostle to Timothy doth not import a distribution of officers but commendation of severall workes in one office teaching that Elders are to be honoured for two workes well-ruling and laborious teaching as he proves by severall texts compared And since they weigh that a true Church may stand without them because otherwise the first Church of Christians from the death of Christ till these supposed Elders are ordained were not a true Church And especially since they have brought in their new parish discipline whereby all power of governement is in the whole congregation they are not backeward to confesse that a true Church may be without them and that they doe not much stand upon that exception against us as once a Pastour of that Church confessed to mee Therefore neede not I use more words about that But yet they claime their Doctours and Deacons which they say the Bishops have banished out of the Church Indeed wee reade of Doctors to teach the word of God and if in every congregation if maintenance were answerable there were one in whom were the word of knowledge and another in whom were the word of wisdome if these gifts meete not in one man wee would not mislike it But that this must be so as a distinct office and officer in the church this we deny For teaching and preaching may meete in the same officer whether Pastour of charge or Doctour of the chaire Christ went about teaching and preaching the Gospel Paul and Barnabas continued teaching and preaching Timothy must teach and preach And these the Apostle doth not make severall offices he disjoines them not but couples them together Pastors and teachers to signifie that though they bee divers gifts yet they may be and are often coupled in one man And for Deacons which is a name given to ministers and to Christ himselfe wee reade indeed of certaine men not called Deacons there whose worke was to minister to the necessity of the saints that the Apostles be not driven to leave the word of God and serve tables but have not we such who take care for the poore that the worke of the Lord by us be not hindred Are not our Church-wardens and overseers the same for substance of office if they would be also alwaies the same for conscience But say they wee have not the Deacons of Christ I am sure we have Deacons for the assistance of the worke of the ministery who serve it for a better degree if they perofrme it wisely But that Deacons should be such brethren who doe alwaies attend the businesse of the poore and not belong to ministeriall order is without ground mark their qualification which needed not for such a worke men full of the holy Ghost mark their ordination which was with imposition of hands a ceremony ministerial marke their practise Stephen preached and Philip preached and baptized too marke their description they must be proved and found fit and if they performe their office well they shall purchase to themselves a good degree to ascend higher to be Presbyters yea and to be Bishops also And are not our Deacons such were they not yet can wee not bee denied to be a true Church seeing after the
and spread forth his hands toward heaven did hee corrupt the worship of God because Moses commanded it not If Princes hold their people faithfully to them to serve God and the King this is commanded them as the Law is committed to them but if Ioshuah doe it by setting up a stone in Shechem if Asa doe it by an oath and if Nehemiah doe it by subscription who hath required it Is Moses unfaithfull Are not these things permitted to them and us To remember Gods benefits is commanded but for Mordecai and the Iewes to doe it by the Feast of Purim who hath required it was it not onely permitted So it is with us wee have precepts and permissions under generall rules In conscience to the precepts wee preach and heare the word wee administer and receive the Sacrament wee pray both publikely and privately But in conscience to the permission we heare and preach from the Pulpit or from none with one in a gowne or cloake in white or in blacke wee receive standing sitting or kneeling we pray standing lying or sitting as necessity and order is put upon us by God and our superiours and as the worship of God may bee best advanced And what hurt is heere But say they these permissions are put upon us by peremptory Lawes contrary to our Christian liberty By a Law indeed they are bound to them with us but not contrary to Christian liberty for then Titus was in vaine left in Creta to set in order things that are wanting if Christians in the outward carriage of things might doe what they list Therefore I wish them brotherly to consider something concerning ceremonies and something concerning Christian liberty Ceremonies may be considered two wayes Before a Law hath bound this or that way and After the bond of a Law Before they may have not onely variety but contrariety and yet not displease God One eateth another eateth not yet God receiveth both one esteemeth one day above another another esteemeth every day alike yet if they bee charitable and fully perswaded in their own hearts God is not displeased But when a Law hath passed upon them those things that are permissions in themselves are precepts in their use as when the Church decreed the abstaining from stranguled and bloud so long as was convenient for the Churches of the Iewes As God loves that we should keepe the unity of the spirit in the bond of peace in one faith so Paul joyes when hee beholds the order among the Colossians that all their things were done in love So long as wee are free wee are like the daughters of Zelophehad who so they kept within their owne tribe might marry whom they pleased so wee may looke which way we please and settle according to our pleasure But when the law of expediency is put upon us wee must say all things are lawfull but all things are not expedient When the law of Charity is put upon us wee must say if meate make my brother to offend I will eate no flesh while the world standeth And when the law of loyalty is put upon us we must say thou O Christian king art worth ten thousand of us the scandall of thee swallowes up the scandall of ten thousand persons therefore wee must doe as Ioab number the people no sinne in it selfe though we see inconveniences that may fall upon it Next concerning Christian liberty it doth not make us lawlesse for then were it vaine for any Church whatsoever to determine what is fit for ceremonies to bee done by them for then every one might flye to Christian liberty and say I will doe what I list my Christian liberty shall beare me out And how unfit this were every religious soule c●n judge but it is a liberty that frees our consciences from inward bondage that we be not brought under the dominion of any thing I eate fish or flesh as is appointed but I am brought under the dominion of neither I weare white or blacke I stand or sit or kneele but I am brought under the dominion of none of them In my conscience my Christian liberty hath set me free but in my practise I am bound in these things to expediency charity or loyalty for the establishing of good order in the Church or in the cōmon-weale If they would but duely consider these two things they would never talk of permissions turned into lawes to prejudice Christian liberty Yea Christian wisedome would learne them too that religious worship is called by the name of outward ceremonies used in them as God calls praying b●wing of the knees and swearing lifting up our hands not because these are commanded duties in such acts of worship but because God permits and loves our well carriage in his worship according to generall rules though we have no particular precepts Yea but say they our ceremonies are typicall and Iewish ceremonies which hurt our worship They meane as I conceive they are teaching ceremonies not ceremonies of meere order but significant to put us in minde of duty I am sorry that this should be accounted a fault If they did not signifie how could they edifie Were they types and shadowes of the mysteries of the Gospell invented by men indeed Christ were ill advised not to ordaine them But being onely mo●al documents and monitors of some duties I wonder where their guilt lies If I had an hundred boxes in my house for my uses and some few of them had a marke upon them to direct me where my mony lay that I might be carefull of that doth this savour of want of naturall wisedome So neither doth it taste of want of spirituall wisedome to set a marke upon some few ceremonies to put me in minde of my duty to Christ What are these say they but images set up to our selves for religious use What to worship to adore God in or by No but to reminde us of what we ought to doe And this was the practise of the Church in all ages Abraham put his servants hand under his thigh in swearing surely to signifie his subjection to him in that businesse about the promised seede Moses set up an Altar when Amaleck was overthrowne and called it Iehovah Nissi to signifie that the Lord was their banner The two tribes and a halfe built an altar not to distinguish their borders but to signifie that they were Gods people and that they had all one God to whom they and their posterity must sacrifice upon his owne altar Samuel set up a stone when the Philistims were discomforted and called it Eben-Ezer to signifie that the Lord helped them When Christ the truth was come hee used humane significant ceremonies as the feast of dedication sitting at the Passeover a signe of rest the water pots of the jewish purifications the custome of embalming beside other formalities of
appointed Surely the freedome of spirit stands not so much in freedome of words and in intention of zeale As a servant that delivers his masters message in his masters words may doe it with a free spirit So may a man pray when he takes to himselfe words and not coines them himself The best prayers are those that are delivered in Gods words and are our spirits stinted because we tye our selves to Gods words As Gods Spirit is not stinted when it speakes unto us by the Scriptures read so nor our spirits when wee speake feelingly to God by read Prayers Put case one man pray with a thousand that have large spirits will they say that their spirits are stinted because they are tyed up for the time being to his spirit so nor when wee pray with others Prayers Have wee a spirit better than the Disciples of Christ and doe wee know what will stint them better than Christ yet Christ gave them the Lords Prayer not onely to say after that manner when hee taught the Doctrine of Prayer but also to say when hee taught them the practice of Prayer But say they hath not God given every good Christian a spirit of supplication by which they have a faculty and power to pray The Disciples I hope were good Christians yet they say to Christ teach us to pray Yet know that there is a double power to pray An inward power by which the heart moves and goes out of it selfe after God Christ grace and salvation This power all good Christians have by the spirit of adoption whereby they cry Abba Father An outward power whereby they are able distinctly and judiciously to expresse the motions and desires of their hearts This power all have not and therefore have neede still to have further helpe and direction as our Saviour did helpe his Disciples But surely they may say the Lords Prayer is not a forme of Prayer taught his Disciples or us It is short and imperfect it hath no such glory in it as some other I may think● it though Christs word be say and none are tyed to this forme of Prayer alone Let all this stand till it be removed It is true it is short and in that is seene the glorious wisdome of Christ but it is most perfect We must pray all manner of Prayers Supplications intercessions and giving of thankes yet all these are comprehended in it Againe there is infinitely more glory in it then in all Prayers made by men If all Prayers be made they have their graynes of weight from hence It briefly comprehends them all and hath the best authority in the world The wisdome of God the son of God the beloved of God made it and expressed it with his tongue in such blessed order as men Angels cannot devise the like It is true that Christ saith say it but there is a saying with the mind and heart as well as with the tongue For there are two parts of Prayer the soule of Prayer when it is presented with understanding heart and spirit and the body of Prayer to helpe our fervencie as when we bowe our knees lift up our hearts with our hands and our eyes are lift up to God and our bones say Lord who is like unto thee and our tongues are the pennes of ready writers Yet hath not Christ tyed us unto this prayer only Christ himselfe hath other prayers beside this and the Apostles many together with the Church and godly particulars Yet by reason of the perfection of it both in matter order and words by reason of the sufficiency of it to supply all wants and by reason of our forgetfulnesse to aske all or halfe it is a sure and comforting way what ever wee pray to use it alwaies with judgement and understanding But say some of them it is of so large extent that wee cannot comprehend it It is true that it is of large extent and therefore we must labor for strength of judgmēt and memory to put it up from the heart that we may not tumble it over as the manner of some is as if it burnt their tongues But Christs lookes not that we should conceive of every thing in it every time wee use it As there are few prayers wee can make but are of larger extent then wee presently conceive as when we say the Lord san●tifie your sickenesse unto you the Lord blesse you the Lord give you grace there are more things comprehended then presently meant● so in the Lords prayer and therefore wee must have docible hearts to understād it better better and we must have wisedom according to our apprehension to apply it to severall occasions But say they this or any other stinted prayer are the very cut-throates of devotion and coolers of affections Indeed they are so to wicked hearts Children must bee pleased with novelties and wicked men loath Gods continued favours though it bee Mannah from heaven but if set prayers wrought so of themselves would Christ ever have given a set forme to his disciples Certainely they will be no enemies to devotion if Christians bee zealous and carefull in using them For the constant practise of the saints in scriptures commends them unto us in prescribed Psalmes and formes of blessing And such is the inequalitie of gifts dispensed by Christ unto his people that to some a prescribed forme is necessary when he hath not given them gifts of knowledge and utterance to expresse their desires in any comely way To others necessary too who are able fitly and fully to doe it in private yet are not so faced and tongued that they can doe it with confidence in publicke to all it is excellently usefull that they may not onely have helpe of their owne spirits but of the publick spirit of God working in his church to advance them forward to heaven It is a world of pittie that men that have some great gifts as they thinke should contemn them that have them not though haply they have others better then they To have a gift of expressing our desires in fit order matter and words is a comely ornament yet may it and doth often fall upon an hypocrite it is not of the essence of a saveable Christian● but to say wee know not what to pray for as we ought but the spirit helpes me publickly and privately with groanes and sighes that cannot be expressed to say thus I say and to feele the truth of it too is a note of a good Christian and can fall upon none but a childe of the kingdome of heaven But say they put case that others may be helped by set formes of prayer yet is there no reason that a Minister or Presbyter that hath gifts should bee tied to a forme of words Neither is he alwaies but that he should bee tied to common solemne praier as with us there is
exhort one another Oh that wee could alwayes walk in the presence of this duty and suffer the words of exhortation too The wicked will call one upon another to goe to hell why should not we to get one another towards heaven But how our forsakers will answer it to God I know not who cast themselves out of our assemblies in folly before they are cast out in justice and forgoe this whetstone of exhortation for a blunt sticke of their owne devising This I am sure they might be exhorted with us and learne to exhort others better from us then they doe to leade poore soules into the wayes of discord distraction and strife I have but one thing to thinke upon this text more and that is Pauls motive and inforcement so much the more because ye see the day approaching men complaine much of dayes and times but I am sure the worse they are the more had they neede to keepe the communion of Saints both publicke and private Evill dayes will come fast enough no man had neede to pull them upon himselfe If hee doe there is the day comming which will pay to the purpose without a pardon for all his sinnes and indiscretions All other dayes are our dayes in which wee eate drinke marrie give in marriage work play pray and heare and the like but this is the day with GODS marke upon it when all shall bee awaked and gathered before their JUDGE The thought of this day should sharpen us to love assemblies and call others to them because they are the ordinances of CHRIST the JUDGE On this day there will bee fulnesse of feares and terrours Fearefull sights of an universall fire throne and JUDGE fearefull yellings and cryings of desperate men fearefull accusations from heaven earth and consciences and the fearefullest sentence that ever yet passed Goe yee cursed Therefore had wee neede all our lives to get something to comfort us against that time for it is an evill time to the wicked On that day will there bee an expectation of comfort or discomfort for ever and ever upon all that wee have done either in our assemblies or out of them On that day wee shall heare such accounts as wee have never heard as how wee have willfully sinned in every secret In the secret of our understanding will affections judgements consciences corners woods and denns How many assemblies wee have neglected How many wee have prophaned in being no better How many in our power wee have not exhorted How many have exhorted us and wee have not answered and followed On that day shall I bee judged if I have taught you to acknowledge our CHURCH a true CHURCH our MINISTERY a true MINISTERY and our WORSHIP a true WORSHIP against my judgement and conscience according to the rule of CHRIST so farre as I am come yea and I shall bee cast also And on that day shall our forsakers escape scotfree shall they not passe a strickt triall and examination Have yee had a care to keepe a Christian state to CHRISTS honour Have yee loved publicke assemblies to that end and use Have yee not forsaken the assemblies of CHRISTS people for no just cause Is not that a true church which professeth the name of Christ according to his word whereto it submits as the rule of the religion it hath Is not that a true Church which enters covenant with mee as all the Christians in the World by entring into my schoole by Baptisme Is not that a true Church which acknowledgeth mee onely head for supreame rule and under mee my liefetenants and chiefe officers to governe according to my lawes general and speciall Is not that a true Church which rejoyceth in good members yet dare not forbid wicked hypocrites from the outward priviledges of my feast because I have commanded her that good and bad should bee called Is not that a true Church which hath the power of governement in best and wisest when I never commanded that whole assemblies should ever have an independent power to doe according to voyces which cannot but bee the authour of schisme Is not that a true Church which doth exercise governement according to my patternes and rules ins●rting things in order ordaining teachers and casting out unworthy beasts as information and conviction could bee justly had Have you forsaken such a Church to set up a Church of your owne devising which hath never beene from my time downeward to ordaine Pastours and Doctours that are not able to divide the word of God aright to cast out or keepe in according to the voyces of two or three men or women which may out of selfe-conceit and pretence of my word presume to bee a Church contrary to my will What Ministery have you forsaken A ministery that hath beene honoured by the bloud of blessed martyrs that are no wooden Priests but whose breath hath blowne away Romish tyranny idolatrie superstitions and falsities which dishonoured mee and my offices a ministery that hath gained soules from heathenisme and prophanenesse in their turnes and moved by my blessing effectually to serve the living and true God even to thousands and millions What worship have you forsaken a worship of praying and receiving of Sacraments with my word with petitions supplications intercessions and giving of thankes to my father in my name Have yee forsaken such a worship and all because every one that goe before in worship have not their tongues at liberty to say what they list but are helped by the publicke spirit of my Church so as they may with one heart and mouth at one time when I have no where commanded the contrary Oh let this Terrour of the Lord perswade men A thousand yeares with Christ are but as one day for the Iudge standeth at the doore and when hee doth come thinke what praise and honour ye shall get by disturbing a Church where is a true Ministery and worship by disheartning of Gods tender people from his service under pretence of his word when for none of your fancies you can produce one precept of Christ The most you pretend are obscure places which by the diligentest searchers of scriptures have beene and are diversly expounded and therefore no sure footing or some obscure examples without lawes which yet if they were never so pregnant prove but the lawfulnesse not the necessitie of such practises And will you hazard the peace of a Christian Church the comfort of your consciences the liberty of your goods and bodies upon so sandy a foundation Oh thinke upon that day and take wiser mens advice then your selves that have not beene carried with rashnesse puffed with pride in love with a conceit of selfe-government or pricked with envies emulations jealousies just punishments and see whether such men will warrant your courses upon the price of their soules in that day And if all candor bee not banished if hatred to an English Priest a Bishops creature as some body is termed