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w._n have_v be_v their_o prompter_n have_v evade_v the_o apostle_n objurgation_n for_o neglect_n of_o discipline_v he_o and_o have_v say_v it_o be_v not_o fit_a for_o we_o who_o live_v with_o he_o to_o censure_v he_o some_o body_n else_o more_o remote_a who_o may_v be_v presume_v more_o impartial_a shall_v have_v take_v he_o in_o hand_n and_o belike_o the_o same_o reason_n will_v as_o well_o persuade_v justice_n of_o peace_n that_o it_o be_v not_o fit_a for_o they_o to_o take_v cognizance_n of_o offence_n among_o their_o neighbour_n they_o be_v fit_a to_o minister_v justice_n to_o those_o who_o be_v remote_a from_o they_o not_o to_o they_o who_o cohabite_v with_o they_o in_o the_o same_o hundred_o or_o parish_n and_o yet_o though_o mr._n w._n talk_v thus_o considerate_o as_o he_o say_v himself_o p._n 103._o yet_o a_o while_n ago_o he_o seem_v to_o have_v a_o better_a mind_n to_o exercise_v discipline_n among_o his_o neighbour_n if_o the_o state_n will_v enough_o assist_v he_o therein_o 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and_o other_o pretend_v ignorance_n of_o such_o a_o ordinance_n and_o wonder_v when_o it_o be_v show_v they_o and_o well_o they_o may_v that_o they_o shall_v no_o more_o regard_v the_o affair_n of_o the_o church_n other_o have_v pretend_v it_o be_v but_o a_o ordinance_n and_o therefore_o not_o valid_a after_o the_o dissolution_n of_o the_o parliament_n who_o make_v it_o and_o yet_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n have_v sue_v for_o their_o tithe_n upon_o a_o ordinance_n build_v upon_o the_o same_o authority_n to_o the_o latter_a part_n i_o return_v cyprian_n answer_v epist._n 55._o ad_fw-la cornelium_n quod_fw-la si_fw-la ita_fw-la res_fw-la est_fw-la frater_fw-la charissime_fw-la ut_fw-la nequissimorum_fw-la timeatur_fw-la audacia_fw-la &_o quod_fw-la mali_fw-la jure_fw-la atque_fw-la aequitate_fw-la non_fw-la possunt_fw-la temeritate_fw-la ac_fw-la desperatione_n perficiant_fw-la actum_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-la episcopatus_fw-la vigore_fw-la &_o de_fw-fr ecclesiae_fw-la gubernandae_fw-la sublimi_fw-la ac_fw-la divinâ_fw-la potestate_fw-la nec_fw-la christiani_n ultrâ_fw-la aut_fw-la durare_fw-la aut_fw-la esse_fw-la jam_fw-la possumus_fw-la si_fw-la ad_fw-la hoc_fw-la ventum_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la perditorum_fw-la minas_fw-la atque_fw-la infidias_fw-la pertimescamus_fw-la and_o after_o non_fw-la id_fw-la circo_fw-la frater_fw-la charissime_fw-la relinquenda_fw-la est_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la disciplina_fw-la aut_fw-la sacerdotalis_fw-la solvenda_fw-la censura_fw-la quoniam_fw-la convitijs_fw-la infestamuâ—_n aut_fw-la terroribus_fw-la quatimur_fw-la etc._n etc._n §._o 5._o to_o his_o four_o i_o answer_v it_o be_v most_o of_o it_o answer_v in_o what_o be_v late_o mention_v whereby_o it_o appear_v if_o minister_n be_v not_o the_o great_a hinderer_n of_o church_n order_n they_o may_v see_v that_o presbyterated_a church_n have_v power_n from_o the_o state_n authoritative_o to_o send_v for_o offender_n yea_o to_o give_v oath_n if_o need_v require_v but_o as_o long_o as_o 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scripture_n word_n but_o be_v use_v by_o the_o church_n to_o signify_v all_o that_o just_a ecclesiastical_a severity_n which_o over_o and_o beside_o admonition_n be_v to_o be_v use_v towards_o a_o wicked_a brother_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o church_n behaviour_n towards_o he_o for_o the_o reclaim_n of_o he_o and_o free_v the_o church_n from_o the_o pollution_n of_o his_o intimate_a society_n for_o this_o description_n do_v agree_v to_o the_o text_n before_o mention_v as_o be_v manifest_a and_o therefore_o if_o excommunication_n do_v signify_v what_o be_v the_o sense_n of_o those_o text_n we_o shall_v not_o in_o the_o description_n aforesaid_a misconceive_v the_o importance_n of_o it_o that_o it_o be_v a_o part_n of_o ecclesiastical_a severity_n not_o one_o doubt_n all_o the_o text_n mention_v do_v evince_v that_o that_o it_o be_v all_o that_o ecclesiastical_a severity_n the_o church_n and_o member_n thereof_o do_v make_v use_n of_o beside_o admonition_n will_v not_o i_o think_v be_v question_v because_o so_o general_o author_n do_v make_v admonition_n and_o excommunication_n the_o only_a dividend_n member_n of_o church_n censure_n in_o general_a and_o because_o also_o neither_o the_o text_n quote_v nor_o any_o other_o do_v give_v ground_n for_o add_v a_o three_o part_n of_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n distinct_a from_o these_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o description_n also_o be_v so_o plain_a in_o the_o text_n that_o i_o shall_v not_o insist_v upon_o any_o of_o the_o particular_n thereof_o viz._n that_o the_o object_n of_o excommunication_n be_v a_o wicked_a brother_n that_o it_o be_v inflict_v by_o the_o church_n and_o the_o member_n thereof_o and_o that_o for_o the_o end_v mention_v it_o be_v employ_v in_o just_a ecclesiastical_a severity_n that_o it_o be_v do_v according_a to_o the_o appointment_n of_o jesus_n christ_n 2._o excommunication_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o a_o suspension_n of_o a_o person_n at_o present_a from_o personal_a privilege_n &_o not_o a_o cuttig_fw-mi he_o off_o simple_o from_o the_o church_n but_o as_o i_o say_v a_o suspend_v he_o from_o the_o privilege_n which_o as_o a_o orderly_a church-member_n he_o may_v rightful_o enjoy_v mr._n w._n render_v extra_fw-la communionem_fw-la ejectio_fw-la a_o ejection_n out_o of_o the_o common_a union_n p._n 15._o but_o though_o some_o excommunicate_a person_n be_v to_o be_v deal_v with_o in_o some_o eminent_a respect_n as_o if_o they_o be_v cut_v off_o from_o and_o be_v none_o of_o the_o church_n in_o reference_n whereto_o it_o be_v ordinary_a for_o divine_n to_o speak_v of_o they_o as_o cut_v off_o yet_o they_o be_v not_o simple_o cut_v off_o from_o all_o union_n with_o the_o church_n thereby_o nor_o be_v so_o to_o he_o repute_v which_o may_v be_v evince_v from_o the_o forementioned_a scripture_n for_o 1._o he_o that_o be_v most_o excommunicate_a according_a to_o those_o scripture_n be_v to_o be_v but_o as_o a_o heathen_a therefore_o not_o a_o heathen_a simile_n quâ_fw-la simile_n non_fw-la est_fw-la idem_fw-la now_o if_o he_o be_v simple_o cut_v off_o he_o shall_v be_v a_o heathen_a and_o not_o only_o as_o a_o heathen_a 2._o some_o excommunicate_a be_v to_o be_v account_v as_o brethren_n 2_o thess_n 3.15_o therefore_o they_o be_v not_o repute_v no_o church-member_n 3._o the_o pastor_n be_v to_o have_v a_o pastoral_a care_n over_o the_o excommunicate_a and_o they_o and_o other_o church_n member_n be_v still_o to_o admonish_v he_o as_o a_o brother_n 4._o he_o be_v only_o as_o a_o sick_a person_n under_o cure_n and_o church_n remedy_n in_o order_n to_o his_o recovery_n 1_o cor._n 5.5_o mat._n 18.15_o 1_o tim._n 1.20_o now_o there_o be_v no_o physick_v of_o a_o member_n simple_o cut_v off_o 5._o he_o be_v oblige_v to_o hear_v the_o word_n as_o a_o church-member_n and_o to_o receive_v admonition_n in_o public_a and_o private_a for_o he_o be_v tie_v by_o virtue_n of_o the_o baptismal_a covenant_n he_o have_v profess_o enter_v into_o to_o exercise_v himself_o in_o all_o the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n he_o have_v opportunity_n for_o as_o he_o have_v for_o hear_v the_o word_n as_o well_o as_o a_o heathen_a with_o hope_n of_o receive_v good_a thereby_o and_o for_o some_o other_o ordinance_n it_o be_v say_v that_o he_o lose_v at_o present_a possessionem_fw-la rather_o than_o jus_o as_o mr_n rutherford_n express_v it_o and_o explain_v it_o by_o the_o similitude_n of_o a_o man_n have_v three_o house_n who_o be_v for_o some_o offence_n confine_v to_o some_o one_o of_o they_o and_o sequester_v from_o the_o other_o so_o as_o he_o may_v not_o make_v use_n of_o they_o 6._o if_o he_o be_v make_v no_o church-member_n by_o excommunication_n he_o shall_v upon_o his_o repentance_n be_v rebaptise_v and_o so_o the_o donatist_n rebaptise_v those_o who_o come_v into_o their_o society_n which_o be_v reasonable_a enough_o upon_o supposition_n that_o they_o be_v before_o no_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n as_o mr._n w._n speak_v pag._n 22._o 23._o and_o passim_fw-la alibi_fw-la but_o the_o excommunicate_a when_o readmit_v be_v not_o to_o be_v rebaptise_v therefore_o they_o be_v not_o repute_v simple_o no_o church-member_n while_o they_o be_v excommunicate_a 7._o all_o say_v they_o be_v cut_v off_o but_o conditional_o if_o they_o do_v not_o repent_v therefore_o they_o be_v not_o cut_v off_o till_o that_o condition_n be_v fulfil_v which_o can_v be_v before_o their_o death_n for_o aught_o we_o know_v the_o sin_n against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n or_o the_o sin_n unto_o death_n i_o suppose_v can_v hardly_o if_o at_o all_o be_v know_v to_o be_v commit_v by_o any_o individual_a person_n so_o as_o that_o the_o church_n shall_v conclude_v he_o absolute_o irrecoverable_a to_o say_v a_o person_n be_v cut_v off_o conditional_o include_v he_o be_v not_o simple_o and_o absolute_o cut_v off_o while_o that_o condition_n of_o his_o final_a impenitency_n be_v not_o existent_a and_o accomplish_a doctor_n ricard_n field_n of_o the_o church_n lib._n 1._o ch_n 13_o 14_o 15._o show_n how_o those_o three_o sort_n of_o man_n who_o go_v out_o of_o the_o church_n viz._n schismatic_n heretic_n and_o notorious_o wicked_a person_n who_o be_v excommunicate_a do_v yet_o all_o of_o they_o remain_v still_o part_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o concern_v the_o last_o of_o they_o he_o thus_o speak_v ch_n 15._o excommunication_n do_v not_o whole_o cut_v off_o the_o excommunicate_a from_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o god_n for_o they_o may_v and_o often_o do_v retain_v the_o entire_a procession_n of_o save_a truth_n together_o with_o the_o character_n of_o baptism_n which_o be_v the_o mark_n of_o christianity_n and_o so_o far_o forth_o notwithstanding_o their_o disobedience_n still_o acknowledge_v they_o to_o be_v their_o lawful_a pastor_n and_o guide_n by_o who_o sentence_n they_o be_v excommunicate_a that_o they_o will_v rather_o endure_v and_o suffer_v any_o thing_n then_o schismatical_o join_v themselves_o to_o
i_o reproath_n and_o shame_n for_o i_o have_v keep_v thy_o way_n 23_o crown_v prince_n '_o against_o i_o sit_v and_o speak_v but_o on_o thy_o law_n i_o think_v 24_o certain_a delight_n in_o these_o i_o take_v and_o from_o they_o counsel_v seek_v chap._n iu._n §._o 1._o to_o my_o first_o syllogism_n at_o numb_a 21._o of_o the_o copy_n of_o my_o m_n s._n he_o answer_v p._n 33._o 1_o by_o quarrel_v with_o my_o conclusion_n and_o that_o in_o two_o respect_n beside_o his_o exception_n against_o the_o phrase_n full_o excommunicate_a which_o have_v be_v resel_v above_o 1_o that_o there_o be_v leave_v out_o of_o it_o they_o express_v their_o desire_n to_o receive_v and_o offer_v themselves_o but_o how_o vain_a be_v this_o cavil_n express_v the_o desire_n he_o have_v to_o receive_v any_o evasion_n that_o offer_v itself_o for_o 1._o will_v he_o grant_v we_o may_v suspend_v they_o who_o do_v not_o profess_v their_o desire_n to_o receive_v and_o do_v not_o offer_v themselves_o if_o so_o then_o 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their_o sense_n of_o excommunication_n and_o be_v this_o a_o tautology_n some_o baptize_v person_n not_o keep_v from_o all_o public_a ordinance_n may_v be_v suspend_v from_o the_o lord_n supper_n my_o own_o judgement_n concern_v full_a excommunication_n have_v be_v show_v before_o in_o the_o last_o chapter_n but_o what_o a_o pitiful_a business_n be_v this_o that_o mr._n w._n so_o much_o quarrel_n at_o the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n and_o sometime_o say_v i_o say_v what_o he_o hold_v himself_o in_o it_o and_o yet_o he_o will_v never_o rectify_v the_o same_o in_o a_o line_n or_o two_o though_o desire_v as_o i_o be_o inform_v so_o to_o do_v if_o it_o please_v he_o not_o that_o we_o may_v have_v be_v agree_v on_o that_o before_o we_o proceed_v to_o dispute_v upon_o it_o but_o he_o seem_v to_o imitate_v the_o crafty_a gunner_n who_o will_v always_o say_v he_o aim_v at_o that_o which_o he_o hit_v but_o will_v never_o agree_v before_o he_o shoot_v what_o shall_v be_v the_o mark_n he_o will_v shoot_v at_o thus_o much_o concern_v the_o conclusion_n of_o my_o syllogism_n now_o he_o come_v to_o the_o premise_n §._o 2._o the_o major_a he_o say_v p._n 35._o he_o grant_v with_o my_o elucidation_n thereof_o in_o such_o general_a term_n as_o they_o stand_v yet_o after_o he_o bethink_v himself_o and_o will_v as_o he_o seem_v to_o i_o grant_v it_o upon_o condition_n that_o the_o grant_n of_o it_o may_v do_v no_o hurt_n to_o his_o own_o opinion_n whether_o this_o be_v not_o the_o sense_n of_o his_o p._n 36_o 37_o 38._o let_v the_o reader_n judge_v who_o will_v peruse_v the_o same_o the_o proof_n of_o my_o minor_n which_o the_o reader_n may_v receive_v if_o he_o please_v to_o turn_v back_o to_o the_o copy_n of_o my_o paper_n m_o s._n at_o numb_a 24._o mr_n w._n set_v down_o in_o his_o p._n 39_o and_o give_v we_o word_n upon_o it_o p._n 40_o 41_o 42_o 43._o without_o distinguish_v upon_o or_o deny_v any_o proposition_n therein_o he_o talk_v much_o of_o accademicall_a dispute_n be_v it_o know_v to_o he_o i_o be_o not_o ignorant_a of_o the_o method_n of_o disputation_n use_v in_o both_o our_o university_n but_o if_o the_o respondent_fw-la as_o he_o here_o make_v himself_o shall_v in_o stead_n of_o give_v a_o short_a answer_n as_o he_o ought_v by_o deny_v or_o distinguish_v upon_o the_o term_n of_o either_o proposition_n run_v out_o into_o such_o extravagancy_n as_o he_o here_o do_v he_o will_v and_o that_o most_o deserve_o be_v hiss_v out_o of_o the_o school_n he_o rap_v again_o at_o the_o distinction_n of_o great_a and_o lesser_a full_o and_o not_o full_o excommunicate_a but_o impotent_o without_o any_o proof_n offer_v against_o the_o same_o and_o then_o lest_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n former_o use_v shall_v give_v any_o countenance_n to_o the_o distinction_n he_o endeavour_v to_o clear_v the_o church_n of_o england_n who_o manifest_o use_v that_o distinction_n but_o the_o great_a fault_n be_v that_o it_o be_v now_o use_v by_o we_o &_o what_o in_o they_o he_o excuse_v in_o we_o presbyterian_o be_v a_o crime_n he_o can_v hardly_o find_v term_n of_o aggravation_n and_o disgrace_n bad_a enough_o to_o put_v upon_o it_o §._o 3._o let_v we_o then_o first_o see_v what_o be_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n herein_o and_o then_o how_o mr_n w._n take_v we_o off_o from_o plead_v that_o and_o i_o shall_v give_v my_o reply_n thereto_o and_o first_o let_v we_o observe_v what_o be_v require_v by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n former_o in_o reference_n to_o the_o manifestation_n of_o the_o knowleledge_n of_o such_o as_o be_v to_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o communion_n and_o their_o understanding_n own_v of_o the_o christian_a faith_n in_o the_o order_n for_o confirmation_n it_o be_v think_v good_a that_o none_o be_v confirm_v but_o such_o as_o can_v say_v the_o article_n of_o the_o creed_n the_o lord_n prayer_n &_o ten_o commandment_n and_o can_v answer_v to_o such_o question_n of_o the_o catechism_n as_o 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the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o reference_n to_o the_o degree_n of_o excommunication_n and_o special_o in_o reference_n to_o suspension_n the_o neglect_n whereof_o he_o out_o of_o mr._n p._n charge_v we_o with_o mr._n w._n proceed_v to_o carp_v at_o may_n be_v in_o my_o syllogism_n when_o as_o yet_o may_v be_v be_v in_o the_o position_n i_o oppose_v and_o the_o question_n be_v whether_o such_o case_n may_v occur_v not_o whether_o they_o do_v occur_v wherein_o the_o person_n speak_v of_o may_v be_v suspend_v as_o appear_v in_o my_o m_n s._n at_o numb_a 6.17_o but_o our_o doctor_n resolutissimus_fw-la &_o absolutissimus_fw-la descend_v not_o so_o low_a as_o to_o observe_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n he_o have_v rather_o it_o seem_v be_v show_v his_o logic_n to_o his_o weak_a conscience_n for_o who_o satisfaction_n his_o title_n page_n design_v his_o book_n and_o tell_v they_o p._n 43_o 44._o which_o be_v the_o subject_n and_o the_o predicat_o in_o the_o proposition_n and_o the_o medius_fw-la terminus_fw-la in_o the_o syllogism_n they_o will_v it_o may_v be_v applaud_v their_o doctor_n with_o a_o egregiam_fw-la veró_n laudem_fw-la but_o if_o any_o of_o his_o weak_a conscience_n meet_v with_o these_o line_n i_o be_o of_o opinion_n they_o will_v not_o so_o far_o admire_v those_o logical_a term_n as_o to_o refuse_v the_o plain_a and_o wholesome_a provision_n i_o now_o offer_v they_o to_o share_v with_o i_o in_o the_o psaim_v 119._o part_n 4._o d._n 25_o down_n on_o the_o dust_n my_o sad_a soul_n stay_v let_v thy_o truth_n life_n afford_v 26_o declare_v to_o thou_o i_o have_v my_o way_n thou_o hear_v teach_v i_o thy_o word_n 27_o disclose_v thy_o precopts-way_n to_o i_o thy_o wondrous_a work_n i_o will_v tell_v 28_o deep_a grief_n my_o soul_n melt_v strengthen_v i_o after_o thy_o word_n right_o well_o 29_o drive_v lie_v way_n from_o i_o thy_o law_n grant_v to_o i_o gracious_o 30_o due_o i_o choose_v thy_o truth_n and_o see_v thy_o judgement_n with_o my_o eye_n 31_o dearly_n thy_o witness_v truth_n i_o hold_v from_o shame_n lord_n i_o discharge_v 32_o daily_a in_o thy_o way_n run_v i_o will_v if_o thou_o my_o heart_n enlarge_v chap._n v._n §._o 1._o the_o confirmation_n of_o the_o major_a proposition_n in_o my_o second_o syllogism_n at_o numb_a 25._o in_o my_o m_n s._n mr._n w._n repeat_v in_o his_o p._n 44._o where_o he_o have_v such_o jejune_n and_o lanquid_a exception_n against_o some_o explication_n be_v insert_v in_o parenthesis_n and_o so_o separate_v from_o the_o syllogism_n itself_o that_o i_o judge_v it_o needless_a to_o make_v any_o defence_n against_o they_o there_o be_v none_o i_o think_v who_o manage_v a_o dispute_n in_o writing_n who_o do_v not_o use_v the_o like_a although_o its_o true_a in_o disputation_n face_n to_o face_n there_o be_v less_o need_n of_o they_o any_o mistake_n which_o may_v occur_v about_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o term_n be_v soon_o rectify_v by_o explication_n thereof_o the_o like_a frivolous_a complaint_n he_o make_v of_o some_o various_a equipollent_a phrase_n use_v viz._n visible_o unbeliever_n and_o such_o as_o aught_o to_o be_v judge_v and_o take_v to_o be_v unbeliever_n when_o as_o i_o have_v express_o signify_v the_o equipollency_n of_o they_o numb_a 25._o the_o proposition_n i_o be_v to_o prove_v be_v those_o who_o by_o word_n open_o renounce_v the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n be_v visible_o such_o to_o who_o the_o lord_n will_v not_o according_a to_o the_o revelation_n of_o his_o will_n in_o his_o word_n have_v the_o lord_n supper_n administer_v now_o my_o conclusion_n in_o the_o syllogism_n i_o bring_v to_o prove_v this_o be_v those_o who_o by_o word_n open_o renounce_v the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n be_v visible_o such_o to_o who_o according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n the_o lord_n supper_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v administer_v a_o ordinary_a reader_n i_o think_v will_v see_v no_o difference_n betwixt_o they_o to_o who_o according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n the_o lord_n supper_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v administer_v and_z they_o to_o who_o the_o lord_n will_v not_o according_a to_o the_o revelation_n of_o his_o will_n in_o his_o word_n have_v the_o lord_n supper_n administer_v but_o mr._n w._n that_o he_o may_v seem_v to_o see_v further_o into_o a_o millstone_n than_o another_o can_v do_v have_v spy_v the_o disagreement_n he_o be_v belike_o at_o a_o great_a want_n for_o exception_n who_o take_v up_o these_o and_o consider_v his_o necessity_n he_o may_v be_v better_o excuse_v it_o be_v better_a to_o pick_v straw_n than_o to_o do_v just_a nothing_o but_o at_o last_o he_o have_v unbutton_v his_o eye_n and_o can_v perceive_v some_o strength_n in_o my_o proof_n when_o it_o have_v be_v he_o think_v behold_v to_o he_o for_o a_o better_a dress_n p._n 46._o where_o he_o thus_o form_n it_o those_o who_o be_v visible_o unbeliever_n be_v visible_o such_o to_o who_o the_o lord_n supper_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v administer_v but_o those_o who_o by_o word_n open_o renounce_v the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n be_v visible_o unbeliever_n ergo_fw-la those_o who_o by_o word_n open_o renounce_v the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n be_v visible_o such_o to_o who_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v administer_v §_o 2._o well_o now_o he_o have_v the_o honour_n as_o he_o speak_v to_o be_v opponent_n himself_o i_o hope_v he_o will_v be_v more_o civil_a in_o his_o answer_n and_o not_o be_v captious_a against_o his_o own_o creature_n wherein_o now_o say_v he_o p._n 47._o do_v this_o argument_n advance_v your_o pretension_n or_o disparage_v we_o and_o then_o explain_v that_o question_n or_o show_v that_o he_o be_v not_o at_o a_o want_n of_o other_o artificial_a word_n to_o say_v the_o same_o thing_n again_o as_o pompous_o he_o add_v what_o evidence_n do_v it_o artificial_o and_o intrinsical_o give_v for_o you_o or_o against_o we_o my_o conclusion_n be_v those_o who_o by_o word_n open_o renounce_v the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n be_v visible_o such_o to_o who_o according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n the_o lord_n supper_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v administer_v the_o conclusion_n he_o have_v make_v for_o i_o be_v those_o who_o by_o word_n open_o renounce_v the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n be_v visible_o such_o to_o who_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v administer_v let_v the_o reader_n judge_v what_o material_a difference_n there_o be_v betwixt_o they_o yet_o he_o grant_v the_o latter_a when_o he_o quarrel_v the_o former_a but_o then_o as_o bethink_v himself_o that_o the_o argument_n be_v i_o though_o the_o dress_v be_v his_o he_o will_v now_o have_v another_o thrust_n at_o it_o and_o deny_v the_o minor_a yet_o not_o absolute_o but_o with_o distinction_n now_o he_o attempt_v to_o play_v the_o part_n of_o a_o
etc._n etc._n notorious_o such_o may_v profess_v his_o earnest_a desire_n to_o receive_v and_o yet_o that_o make_v he_o not_o no_o whoremonger_n and_o no_o drunkard_n 2._o then_o also_o the_o church_n may_v look_v for_o no_o further_a satisfaction_n in_o order_n to_o restore_v of_o a_o excommunicate_a than_o his_o verbal_a profession_n of_o earnest_a desire_n to_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n for_o that_o which_o shall_v prevent_v their_o excommunicate_v of_o he_o must_v be_v avaylable_a to_o restore_v he_o but_o the_o church_n in_o many_o age_n have_v require_v particular_a confession_n of_o notorious_a sin_n and_o express_v profession_n of_o repentance_n for_o they_o and_o not_o only_a profession_n of_o earnest_a desire_n to_o receive_v as_o antecedent_o necessary_a to_o the_o absolution_n of_o a_o excommunicate_a in_o analogy_n to_o that_o levit._fw-la 5.4_o 5_o 6._o where_o he_o who_o be_v to_o bring_v his_o trespass_n offer_v for_o a_o false_a oath_n though_o through_o ignorance_n 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w._n further_o add_v as_o for_o your_o full_o and_o not_o full_o excommunicate_a we_o look_v not_o on_o they_o as_o considerable_a in_o this_o present_a controversy_n they_o be_v your_o own_o miserable_a shift_n etc._n etc._n what_o be_v the_o conclusion_n ergo_fw-la my_o fore_n mention_v reason_n be_v not_o sound_a wonderful_a hap_n he_o have_v if_o he_o can_v draw_v this_o inference_n from_o such_o premise_n this_o distinction_n of_o excommunication_n have_v be_v prove_v before_o at_o chap._n 3_o and_o i_o wonder_v not_o if_o he_o will_v so_o fain_o shift_v it_o out_o of_o his_o way_n if_o he_o can_v it_o so_o full_o enervate_v the_o reason_n of_o his_o champion_n mr._n timson_n and_o show_v his_o miscarriage_n in_o the_o very_o state_v of_o the_o question_n if_o that_o three_o chap._n aforesaid_a stand_v good_a particular_o the_o six_o §_o that_o excommunicate_n be_v church-member_n and_o be_v not_o by_o excommunication_n cut_v off_o from_o all_o ordinance_n although_o accidental_o 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to_o be_v baptize_v without_o any_o more_o ado_n or_o the_o drunken_a christian_n to_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o assembly_n while_o drink_v or_o the_o excommunicate_a have_v actual_a right_n to_o the_o lord_n supper_n while_o excommunicate_a 2._o and_o that_o all_o excommuncation_n turn_v our_o of_o church-membership_a mr._n humphreys_n hole_v rejoynd_v p._n 155._o where_o he_o say_v suspension_n be_v null_a withot_v dismembership_n to_o what_o purpose_n then_o shall_v mr._n timson_n hae_fw-la add_v not_o excommunicate_a but_o to_o instruct_v we_o in_o this_o lessoâ—_n that_o to_o receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n be_v the_o actual_a right_n and_o duty_n of_o all_o church_n member_n at_o year_n who_o be_v not_o no_o church_n member_n this_o be_v the_o warrior_n who_o herald_n mr._n w._n be_v please_v to_o mâ—â—e_v himself_o and_o he_o once_o and_o again_o provoke_v i_o to_o grapple_v with_o he_o but_o if_o i_o have_v make_v good_a this_o one_o argument_n against_o mr._n w._n there_o be_v 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the_o people_n in_o case_n of_o the_o negligence_n of_o their_o guide_n and_o when_o the_o people_n follow_v the_o injunction_n of_o their_o officer_n herein_o as_o be_v thereby_o and_o therewith_o satisfy_v concern_v the_o obstinate_a wickedness_n of_o such_o particular_a offender_n they_o do_v close_o therewith_o not_o mere_o because_o the_o govern_n church_n require_v this_o for_o then_o they_o shall_v be_v bind_v so_o to_o withdraw_v from_o any_o who_o their_o leader_n may_v warn_v they_o to_o avoid_v but_o especial_o because_o they_o be_v satisfy_v in_o their_o opinion_n of_o the_o integrity_n and_o ability_n of_o their_o guide_n or_o by_o their_o personal_a knowledge_n of_o the_o party_n censure_v or_o by_o some_o other_o way_n that_o these_o particular_a person_n who_o they_o be_v warn_v to_o avoid_v be_v such_o as_o the_o scripture_n command_v they_o to_o withdraw_v their_o foresay_a intimate_a and_o encourage_v communion_n from_o 3._o the_o officer_n and_o people_n of_o the_o church_n conjunct_o be_v to_o withdraw_v communion_n from_o some_o offender_n for_o to_o they_o as_o together_o the_o direction_n for_o this_o purpose_n be_v prescribe_v 1_o cor._n 5.1_o 2_o 4_o 5_o 7_o 13._o when_o the_o church_n be_v meet_v together_o whether_o it_o refer_v to_o any_o parricular_a congregation_n meet_v among_o the_o corinthian_n or_o to_o a_o classical_a meeting_n of_o sundry_a congregation_n come_v to_o one_o pass_v as_o to_o the_o present_a point_n for_o in_o a_o classical_a church-meeting_n there_o be_v as_o there_o be_v in_o that_o synod_n act_v 15.2_o 22_o 23_o beside_o the_o minister_n other_o of_o the_o brethren_n delegate_n from_o the_o rest_n and_o therefore_o representative_n of_o their_o whole_a congregation_n respective_o &_o with_o respect_n to_o the_o transaction_n of_o a_o withdraw_n by_o these_o excommunication_n be_v thus_o describe_v as_o aretius_n have_v it_o problem_n theol._n de_fw-fr excommunicatione_n excommunicatio_fw-la est_fw-la alicujus_fw-la prosessi_fw-it religionem_fw-la nostam_fw-la à _fw-la consortio_fw-la fidelium_fw-la in_fw-la sacris_fw-la &_o prophanis_fw-la rebus_fw-la exclusio_fw-la facta_fw-la in_o nomine_fw-la &_o virtute_fw-la christi_fw-la per_fw-la ordinarios_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la ministros_fw-la consentiente_fw-la reliquâ_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la &_o facta_fw-la emendandi_fw-la peccatoris_fw-la causa_fw-la &_o ad_fw-la liberandum_fw-la à _fw-la contagione_fw-la peccati_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la and_o thus_o in_o cyprian_n time_n it_o be_v manifest_a great_a respect_n be_v