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A71239	The son of perdition revealed by the brightness and light of the Son of God in his saints, and the preachers of his light within and their doctrines & principles (concerning the mysteries of God & the weighty things of salvation) vindicated and cleared ... / by the light of the Son of God in his servants Geo. Whitehead & Edw. Burroughs.	Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723.; Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662.	1661 (1661)	Wing W1962; ESTC R21454	71,956	92

but we are divided from them though among our selves in the Body of Christ of which we are members we have Unity Peace and Fellowship with the Lord and one with another CHAP. X. Concerning destroying the Whore discovering Secrets and sufferings c. NOw I come to the third Particular about destroying the Whore which J. W. saith he denyes we do his Reason is this because we were not instrumental in Banishing the Popes Nuntio's Legates and Iesuites nor have we stopt the Popes Pardons nor Indulgencies by our Preaching and he sayes when did we cause Cross and Crucifix to be pulled down and when was Bell Book and Candle Monasteries and Popish Hierarchy demolished by us then he speaks of our running up and down and railing against the Ministers of the Nation and giving them reviling Language and what we do in destroying the Whore as if we would turn people out of one way of wickedness into another as bad or worse and we delude the Whore more then any others we bid her Repent but withal teaches her to reject the Word of God and to reject Christ and disobey the Gospel c. pages 185 186 187. Answer To all this I Answer The Whore is the false Church not onely the false Church of Rome as J. W. seems onely to intimate but the Whore is all that hath the name of Church whether they be National or Congregated Churches so called that do not witness nor can prove that they are lawfully married to Christ such whomsoever are the Whore and against this Whore we are ●ent to give our testimony against her by the Spirit of the Lord in order to the converting people from her and to destroy her which we know the God of Heaven will effect by his Power in his own season but he denies this because we have not banished the Popes Nuntio's nor the Jesuites out of this Land c. By the same Rule J. W. nor none of his Fellows nor the Baptists are not themselves the True Church nor destroyers of the Whore as they pretend and while we are censured by them not to be destroyers of the Whore but one with her or worse then she by the same reason they give that we are such they themselves are proved to be as bad as they say we are For when did any of the Baptists banish any of the Popes Nuntio's Jesuites or Legates out of England and when did they stop the Popes Pardons and Indulgencies by their Preaching And when did they demolish Bell Book and Candle and Popish Hierarchy and pull down Popish Crosses and Crucifixes If these be found Reasons alleadged against us that we are not destroyers of the Whore because thereof by the self same Reasons J. W. and his Fellow Baptists are proved to be no destroyers of the Harlot the false Church but as bad as she and upholders of her Secondly But is this the way to destroy the Whore by Banishing killing and destroying the persons of the Papists and by laying violent hands on their Crosses and Monasteries c. I say no for the destruction of the Whore must be by converting and turning people from her by found Doctrine and by drawing people by True Love from errour and falshood to Truth and Righteousness and not by killing and banishing and doing violence to persons for their errours sake but it is manifest that the Baptists would destroy the Whore the Church of Rome and all that differs from them in point of Religion on this wise by killing and banishing persons and this is clearly manifest by his own words that they pretend to destroy the Whore by killing and banishing persons which is a Spirit of cruelty which lodges in their hearts against the persons of people that differs from them and it is the same spirit that is in the Whore of Rome that would bring forth the same practice if it had as great force but let me tell them this is not the way to destroy the Whore but thereby they rather prove themselves to be of the Whore bloudy and cruel that drinks the bloud of the Martyrs and Prophets 3. And whereas J. W. charges us with running up and down and railing against the Ministers of the Nation Hereby it is manifest that he takes part with the false Ministry in opposition to us and hath joyned himself to Baal and hath charged us with deluding the Whore more then any others do and if we turn any from the National way of Worship and from the Papists and if any turn from open prophanenesse to joyn with us in the way of the Lord J. W. hath concluded such to be in a worse way of wickednesse and to be more deceived in that state then if they were Papists Idolaters or common prophane Persons thus much his words signifie for though saith he we bid them repent yet we teach them to reject the Word of God and Christ himself as though Preaching Repentance were a rejecting of the Word of God and of Christ himself which is ignorance and impudency in J. W. to affirm who also doth signifie that such as turns from common Idolatry and open prophanenesse to our way are in a worse condition with us then they were before the Lord rebuke his ignorance as well as his lyes 4. And we do know that our Testimony against the false Ministry in these Nations hath not been ineffectuall but God hath blessed our endeavours and converted many from the way of Errour in Doctrine Practice and Worship to the way of Truth and Righteousnesse though J. W. reproachfully calls it running up and down railing and cursing of the Ministry which is like the rest of his work to wit falshood for we have given a blessed and a precious Testimony against unrighteous wayes and not used cursed nor railing language though we have spoken plainly and not flatteringly to them neither have we as some of J. W's Brethren and Generation have done cryed against them for the end that we might dispossesse their Persons and possesse their Places and Benefits and Tyches and Hire These things have we not done though I could mention some of the Baptists that have done it to my knowledge like Hypocrites and self-seeking persons I cannot but speak plainly seeing I am provoked to it and to lay their own wickednesse upon them and let J. W. defend such if he will and he shall hear from me again 5. Now I come to his fourth Particular about discerning of secrets which he sayes he denyes and that we do not discern the mystery of Christ his taking away the sin of the world nor the mystery and the secret of God manifest in the flesh c. These mysteries we are ignorant of though we can discern who we have deceived by that spirit of Antichrist which guides us and he speaks of some that have been mistaken in some things and thus he saith thy deceitful dealing is seen and the pride of thy heart c. page 188 189.