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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A47144	A Farther account of the great divisions among the Quakers in Pensilvania, &c. as appears by another of their books lately come over from thence, intituled, Some reasons and causes of the late separation, that hath come to pass at Philadelphia, betwixt us, called by some of the seperate meeting, and others that meet apart from us : more particularly opened, to vindicate and clear us and our testimony in that repsect, viz. : that the seperation lieth at their door, and they, and not we, are justly chargeable with it : with an apology for the present publication of these things.	Budd, Thomas, 1648-1699.; Furnis, Henry.; Keith, George, 1639?-1716.	1693 (1693)	Wing K166; ESTC R16901	19,794	24

Adjourned than hath been at many Monthly Meetings here that have been approved And a 4th Reason was That the matter of Difference being a matter of Doctrine and betwixt Friends of the Ministry a Monthly Meeting could not be proper Judges of it To this it was answered That the Difference being a matter of Fact and not a matter of Doctrine that could be called in Question by any Judicious Christian and the Accusation being made to the Monthly Meeting they were proper Judges of it and if the Difference had been a matter of Doctrine we did and do assert That the Monthly Meeting to wit consisting of a considerable Number of Friends of the Ministry and other Judicious Friends were proper Jueges of it but to lodge the Judgment wholly in Friends of the Ministry and to deny all other Friends to have a share in the Judgment even when the Difference is in a Matter of Doctrine we judge is an Encroachment upon our Christian Liberty and savours too much of the Church of Rome as also that other case pressed too indiscreetly at the Quarterly Meeting when some that were known to be Parties against G. K. did require of him his Submission to the Judgment of the Meeting he answered as we judge soberly and Christianly That he would submit to the Judgment of the Spirit of Truth in Friends but to give an absolute Submission he could not to any Society of Men whatsoever for absolute Submission implyeth absolute Infallibility that no Society of Men pretendeth unto but the Church of Rome and therefore to introduce it among us would be Rank Popery at which some prejudiced against G. K. were greatly dissatisfied and one took out his Pocket Book and writ down some words of G. K. to that effect before he had finished the full Sentence which we judge was very unfair as well as unusual But whereas some from this would infer as if G. K. denied any positive Power of Judgment to a true Church or Meeting of true Christians met together in the Name of Christ where he is present in the midst of them G. K. gave no Ground for any such inference for he doth readily grant That a true Christian Assembly hath a positive Power of Judgment when met together in his Name and that he is present in the midst of them and is felt and witnessed to guide them in true Judgment But we all know that it is possible at times that Partiality ond Prejudice and Annimosities may prevail in Meetings that may pretend to meet in the Name of Christ and also to have him present in the midst of them and yet where such things prevail Christ is not in the midst known to give true Judgment or to guide Men to give it as Friends Letter to us from London expresly declareth And therefore we judge That no absolute Submission should be required of any Member to the Judgment of that Society he belongeth unto in a matter of Truth or Christian Doctrine or wherein the Conscience is concerned for it is time enough to submit to the Judgment of Brethren when a Man hath heard it and has brought it to the Ballance and Test of that which giveth true Judgment in every Particular that is in a quallified Frame to understand it even as Christ said As I hear I judge John 5.30 And if any be stiff and Refractory to the true Judgment of the Christian Society he belongeth unto they may freely proceed to put into Practice Gospel Discipline against him without requiring his Submission as it is in Worldly Judicatories But if any say At least it was yielded in the Quarterly Meeting that the Adjourned Meeting in the School-house was a true Meeting but an Appeal was made from that Monthly Meeting to the Quarterly Meeting and the Quarterly Meeting offering to give a new Judgment in the Case and in order thereto ordered G. K. to withdraw he refusing so to do hindered that no Judgment could be given But to this it was and is answered That there could be no Appeal from that Monthly Meeting to the Quarterly Meeting because most of the Quarterly Meeting did consist of the Friends that gave the Judgment at the Monthly Meeting and such as were over were but a few in comparison except some Country Friends that did not care to meddle in that matter and so to appeal from the Monthly Meeting to the Quarterly Meeting was in effect but to appeal from the Monthly Meeting to a small part or Number of Persons in the Quarterly Meeting the most of which and the most leading Men were known to be prejudiced against G. K. and Parties against him and G. K. did offer very fairly in naming Seven or Eight Persons that we know were his opposite Parties and had been mainly Instrumental at former Meetings about a Year ago and at the time of the Year●y Meeting to hinder Justice to be done and true Judgment to be past concerning bringing W. S. to Conviction and Condemnation of his Error That if they would go out he would go out also but they who were his manifest opposite Parties and had manifestly appeared from time to time to excuse and defend VV S. and blame G. K. for his sound Christian Doctrin that he hath Preached among us refusing to go sorth we are satisfied G. K. did well not to go forth so as to submit to the Judgment of these Men who had sufficiently shown their Partiality against him and some of which had unjustly accused him as can be well proved Besides things being duly considered there was no reason that G. K. should have gone sorth either at that Meeting or any other for G. K. was no otherwise concerned in that Difference with W. S. and T. F. than all faithful Friends and the whole Meeting ought to have been concerned to wit to defend one of the greatest Principles of the Christian Faith viz. That the Man Christ Jesus who was Crucified did rise from the Dead and is now in being And that Faith in him is necessary to make Men true Christians And therefore not G. K. alone nor principally but Christ himself and all his faithful Followers are concerned in the same and in none of these Meetings was any Charge of any Trespass proved against G. K. nor so much as brought under the Consideration of the Body of the Meeting only one or two particular Persons falsly accused him but the thing was never brought to any due Tryal And here let it be noted That both the Meeting of Friends of the Ministry at R. E.'s refusing to answer G. K's Complaint against the dishonour done to Christ Jesus that W. S. was guilty of so as to bring him to any Conviction or Condemnation of his Error and also the Meetings at the House of S. C. and A. M. at the time of the Yearly Metting wholly neglecting to bring the said W. S. to Conviction and Condemnation of his Error altho' at the last of six Meetings it