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A14367 The ouerthrow of the iustification of workes and of the vain doctrin of the merits of men with the true affection of the iustification of faith and of the good workes that procead or come of the same, and in what respect our good workes are crouned or rewarded of God settte foorth dialoge wise by John Veron VĂ©ron, John, d. 1563. 1561 (1561) STC 24685; ESTC S112540 57,442 173

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the same sorte he that by the gyfte of God hathe obtayned the health of his soule and by his grace doethe the thinges that belonge to the preseruation of the same shall we saye that he doeth deserue any rewarde at Goddes handes because that he is made suche by his gyfte and doeth now through his helpe ayde and assistaunce kepe the same grace for his owne profytte and commoditye eyther by earnest beliefe or by vnfaygned loue or by assured hope or by well doynge and patience in aduersitye trouble Obiecti ∣ on 9 DYDI. Yet God doeth crowne suche PHILA God in deede doeth croune in them his giftes Aunswer whiche are theyr good workes so that all thinges remaine safe and sounde to the glorie of the grace of God Nowe where all thinges oughte to be attributed vnto the grace of God what is lefte for the merites of men For where grace is there is no place left for merite if we do consider a right the nature propertie of merite But let our good workes be examined after the streightnes of Gods iudgement who is so ignorant The imperfectiō of oure workes of mans imperfection that will not acknowledge that we ought rather to feare punishement for the defautes that be in them than loke for any reward or boaste I can not tell of what merites Is it for naught thinke ye the the holy Prophete doth lykene our righteousnes to so filthy a thinge Esa 64. that any man will abhorre to loke on it Obiect 10 DYDI. But this saye they ought to be vnderstanded of the righteousnes of the flesh I mean of the man that is not yet iustified PHILA Sainct Augustin in his bokes of confessions Aunswer doeth crye out that it ought to be vnderstanded of the righteousnesse of the Christians I meane of those that he alredy graffed in Christ where he sayeth Nae vniuersae iustitie nostre Augu. li. 9. confessionū si remota misercordia iudicetur That is Wo be to all our righteousnes if it be iudged mercy beainge taken awaye or set asyde What manner of merite is that whiche can not abyde the censure of Gods iudgement nor be deliuered from condemnation but thorough mercy onely withoute all doubt better it is for vs to confesse our sinnes with the Publicane Aug. de S. virg ca. 42. than to glorie boast bragge of our merites with the Pharisee Such are our merites that the cōfession acknowledging of our sinnes ought to be preferred before the nūbring of thē Bernard doeth not in this poynte disagree from saincte Augustine For these are his woordes Sed quid potest esse ōnis iustitia nostra coram deo None iuxta prophetam velut pānus menstruate reputabitur Bernardus in sermone pefesto omnium sanctorum 1. et si districte iudicetur intusta inuenietur omnis iustitia nostra et minus habens Quid ergo depeccatis erit quando 〈◊〉 quidem per se poterit respondere iustitia Propterea enixe cum propheta clamantes non intres in iudicium cum seruo tuo o domine nam non iustificabitur in conspectu tuo omnis viuens tota humilitate ad misericordiam recurtamus que fola potest saluare animas nostras That is to saye But what can al our righteousnes be before god Shall it not according to the prophette Esa 64. be coumpted as a fylthye bloudi cloute And if it be streightlye iudged shal not al oure righteousnesse bee sounde vnryghteouse and hauynge lesse than it oughte to haue What shall then become of our syns if our righteousnesse Psal 143. canne not aunswer by it selfe Therefore cryinge earnestlye wyth the prophete Enter not in to iudgemente o Lorde wyth thy seruaunte for in thy syght no man liuinge shall be iustifyed let vs with al humility haue oure recourse vnto mercye whiche alone is able to saue our soules But go to al these golde sayings being laied a side let vs compare the inestimable glorye of lyfe euerlastinge The inestimable glorye of life euerlasting doth cut of all merites and of endelesse felicitye not onelye with oure good works be they neuer so glorious and exelent but also with the afflictions troubles persecutions and aduersities that we do here suffer for Christs sake what shall we finde in them that is able too counterpease the vnspeakeable ioyes that are laied vp for the electe and chosen of God For thus sayeth sainte Paule Rom. 8. I coumpt that the afflictions of this presente tyme are not worthye of the glorye whiche shall be shewed vnto vs. EVTRA. Nowe one thing doe I learne by that whiche hathe bene spoken of the merites of our owne workes And that is this Sith that God in geuing vs vnto life euerlasting doeth not respect or regard the dignitie of our good workes howe can the doctrine of them stande which do appoint degrees of ioye and felicitie in heauē affirming that we shal there excel one an other in glorye This is most sure that we obtayn heauēly felicitye by the mere mercy of god And therefore this diuersitye or difference of rewards must depend or hange of the mercy of God and not of oure owne workes Wherupon they grounde thē selues that do appoynte diuersityes or degrees of glorye in the life to come PHILA We see that they whiche mayntaine the contrarye do ground them selues vpon this that we do by oure good workes deserue life euerlastinge as they saye ex condigno or accordingely Which thing if we wold graunt then withoute all controuersye God shoulde seeme vnrighteouse if he shoulde not geue greater rewardes to those that haue laboured merited and deserued more than the other But let vs come to the scriptures Math. 20. Fyrste a penye is equaly geuen to those that laboured in the vineyarde although some of them came at thre of the clocke some at nyne and some at eleuen and when they began to murmure the father of the houshoulde stopped their mouthes sayinge that he did iustelye Secondlye the Apostell affyrmeth 1. Cor. 15. that God shall be all in all And when our sauiour Iesus Christ speaketh of the rewarde of the righteouse The righteouse sayeth he shall shyne as the sunne in the sighte of God Mat. 13. But there is no greater lyghte than the light of the sunne and no manne shall enter in to the kingdome of heauen excepte he be righteous They shal then haue al the light or brightnesse of the sun that is lyke or equall glorye Again our sauiour Iesus Christ reasoning with the Saducees of the resurrectiō doth say Luc. 20. that we shal be like vnto the Aūgels neither goeth he any farther or appointeth any degrees Besides this that there be diuers and sondrye differences betwixte the Sayntes here in this life that cometh by the reason of the fleshe that they carye aboute and the more or lesse that they be addicted vnto it the more or lesse they doe profytte in the