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A47140 An exact narrative of the proceedings at Turners-Hall, the 11th of the month called June, 1696 together with the disputes and speeches there, between G. Keith and other Quakers, differing from him in some religious principles / the whole published and revised by Goerge Keith ; with an appendix containing some new passages to prove his opponents guilty of gross errors and self-contradictions. Keith, George, 1639?-1716.; Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723.; Penn, William, 1644-1718.; Ellwood, Thomas, 1639-1713. 1696 (1696) Wing K161; ESTC R14328 86,182 64

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is no diference between them and me I will cite a passage or two out of a Manuscript from Pensilvania it is a thing that will satisfy your Consciences as much as any thing I brought the Manuscripts they were read at the yearly Meeting at London 1694. and something was objected to the hand and it was asked at Samuel Jennings my Adversary whether it was the hand of that man and he said he believed it was and you will find it is matter of Doctrine at the bottom for which they have Excommunicated me however they would cloak it Let them retract their Errors and I will forgive them my Excommunication See the Book called Light and Life pag. 41. See what is here said by G. Whitehead That there is not an outward coming of Christ to Judg the Quick and Dead What I prove from G. Whitehead is proved from W. Penn for W. Penn has Authorized his Book therefore it is the proof of them both Here is the place Moreover Christ said The Son of Man shall come in the Glory of his Father with his Angels c. Matt. 16.27 28. Luke 9.26 27 Now what is that Glory of the Father in which his coming is is it visible to the Carnal Eye And when was that coming to be Is it now to be looked for outwardly But farther we do acknowledg the several comings of Christ according to the Scriptures both that in the Flesh and that in the Spirit which is manifest in several degrees as there is a growing from Glory to Glory But three comings of Christ not only that in the Flesh at Jerusalem and that in the Spirit but also another coming in the Flesh yet to be expected we do not read of but a second coming without sin unto Salvation which in the Apostles days was looked for And as concerning that noted place 1 Thes 4.17 brougt by W. B. to prove Christs coming without us to judgment G. W. denyeth it to be meant of his Personal coming and useth a Sophism to contradict it and wrest it to his inward coming whereas all the stress of his Sophism lies in that We We that remain but the true Sense of these words is those Saints those Believers that shall be living at that day shall not prevent them that dyed in Christ before It is an enallage personae frequent in Scripture putting we for they live that or James therewith bless we God and Curse men Now all these proofs he has Allegorized to Christ within he has allegorized away his Birth his Death Resurrection and Ascension and coming to Judgment and so we have nothing from Scripture to prove Christ's Death to be of any benefit to us and we have no Argument to prove he came in the Flesh And so all the proofs against Jews and Philosophers he has Allegorized away Thus you have had a proof from G. Whitehead and W. Penn. Now if you will adjourn the Meeting to some other time or continue it a while longer I am content And I hope I have proved that I am not Petulant and that I have had just cause to accuse them of these Errors I was presented by a Grand jury at Philadelgpia and the Presentment would have been Prosecuted if the Government had not been changed and I had been accused for endeavouring to alter the Government which is Capital by their Law and they would have found me guilty of Death had they not been turned out of the Government tho I was innocent And when I objected against the Jury they would not suffer one of the Jury to be cast Now it I had been guilty of any Trespass and Offence against K. William and Q. Mary the King is alive and God bless him do you think that Governour Fletcher put into the Government by King William and Queen Mary that was the Governor there if he had found me guilty of High Treason he would have passed me but he ordered them to let fall the Indictment Then the Company desired G. Keith to proceed if he had any more proofs against G. Whitehead G. Keith Yes I have Says G. Whitehead to R. Gordon Dost thou look for Christ's coming again to appear outwardly in a bodily Existence If thou dost thou mayest look until thy Eyes drop out before thou wilt see such an Appearance of him Now see how G. Whitehead has excused this he says He did not mean it of Christ's coming to Judgment but he meant it thus because R. Gordon would needs have it that Salvation was delayed till Christ's outward coming I am apt to think he abuses R. Gordon not that I would vindicate R. Gordon in every thing for I think he did overcharge the Quakers in some things at that time but now I do not accuse or acquit him But I say he says he only opposed that false Notion of R. Gordon as if the Saints remained under their Pollution till the Resurrection from the Dead Can you think so He was a Protestant and no Protestant will say any such thing We say we are saved by hope I say in a Scripture sense we may expect that great Salvation then even from all charge of Sin tho not from any stain of Sin Not that the sense of Pardon is not made manifest before that day but that in that day all that have Repented and Believed he will clear them before God Angels and Men. The Devil will be ready to accuse them in that day but Christ will then clear them It will be a great solemn Assize and there will be a solemn Acquitment to all that have sincere Repented of their sins and believed in the Lord Jesus Christ Quaker Let the passage be read out G. Keith If we had not had these oppositions we might have saved an Hour I will read the passage Dost thou look for Christ as the Son of Mary to appear outwardly in a bodily Existence to save thee according to thy words p. 30. If thou doest thou mayest look until thy Eyes drop out befor thou will see such an appearance of him Ye see these are plain and express words agianst Christ's outward coming The Scripture saith we are saved by hope and hope that is seen is not hope our great Salvation in the full accomplishment of it is at the Resurrection and Christs last coming then will be the great Discharge and Acquitment according to 2 Tim. 1.18 and 2 Tim. 4.16 The Lord grant that we may find mercy in that day and that our sins may not be laid to our charge And Acts 3.19 it is said Repent and be Converted that your sins may be blotted out when the times of refreshment shall come c. The word is very well Translated when the times of Reanimation shall come the Greek is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Quaker I desire to be heard a word G. Keith I have not done yet I beg of you I shall be but short I had said I had upward of six Manuscripts What