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A07966 An apology of English Arminianisme or A dialogue betweene Iacobus Arminius, professour in the Vniuersity of Leyden in Holland; and Enthusiastus an English Doctour of Diuinity and a great precisian. Wherein are defended the doctrines of Arminius touching freewill, predestination, and reprobation: the said doctrines being mantained & taught by many of the most learned Protestants of England, at this present time. Written by O.N. heertofore of the Vniuersity of Oxford.; Apology of English Arminianisme. O. N., fl. 1634. 1634 (1634) STC 18333; ESTC S119849 84,307 213

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deformity in them is ascri●●●● to God as the Authour thereof And 〈◊〉 b Swingl vbi supra The Theefe coactus est ad 〈◊〉 is forced to sinne And another 〈◊〉 c Beza in his foresaid display pag. 202. God exciteth the wicked will of 〈◊〉 The●fe to kill another Where you see againe that the wickednes of the Will is ●●●ributed to God And a third sayth to ●●mit diuers others that d Calu. Instit l. 1. c. 18. sect 2 Our sinnes 〈◊〉 not on●y by Gods permission but by his decree and will He so attributing both what is Materiall and the Deformity in euery Sinne to the decree and will of God and consequently maketh God the Authour thereof Add hereto That whereas diuers of our Aduersaries do maintayne that to deliuer it in their owne words * Calu. l. 3. c. ●3 sect 6. And by M. Perkins in his Treatise of Gods free grace pag. 148. Whatsoeuer thing God doth foresee the same he doth will decree and ordayne to be done so confounding his foreknowledge and prescience with his Predestination and Decree a point aboue re●●●ted Now I conclude from these mens doctrine that God is the Authour aswell of the Deformity and Sinne in euery wicked action as of what is Materiall and Positiue therin seeing he aswell foreknoweth the one as the other Now touching the other two ●●●ners of reconciling the former 〈◊〉 if so we but truly consider what 〈◊〉 the touch of the point herein the 〈◊〉 of those Answeres will instantly lik● a clowd before the Sunne vanis● ●way Since tho●e euasions shew That God is not Authour of Sinne in himselfe which all men freely grant but they proue not that God is not the A●thour of Sinne in vs for this they touch not at all which is the difficulty only heere to be salued and in which th●● Controuersy consisteth But I will conclude this point and to shew how inexplicable or rather contradictory in it selfe it is to maintaine that God forceth causeth Sinne in man and yet is not the Authour thereof Caluin shall speake for me who is constrayned thus to acknowledg● hereof e De aeterna Dei praedest contra ●ighium pag. ●18 How God is not to be drawne into the fellowship of fault as being the Authour or allower of Transgression let vs not be ashamed to confesse our ignorance seeing it is playne that it is a secret far aboue man● vnderstanding And now hauing spoken what I hould conuenient to be said touching this foule aspersion of God being the ●uthour of Sinne how truly or vntruly 〈◊〉 against some of our owne Bre●hren the Protestants I leaue to other 〈◊〉 indifferency and impartiality to ●ensure I would Enthusiastus know whether you haue finished your discourse in your obiecting or that you will draw other Arguments eyther frō the Authority of the Auncient Do●●ours of Christ his Church or from any other Head of proofes For I am ●oath to encircle and confine your liberty within a lesser compasse then ●our self● would desire Enthusiastus Indeed Arminius it may be that I could produce some appearing Arguments eyther from reason or Authority of the Primitiue Doctours which 〈◊〉 an vndiscerning eye might at the first perhaps seeme of some force but seeing I cannot fynd any one Text in Gods Holy word to fortify the doctrine of Reprobation if your former Answeres to them be true and solid therfore I must needs conclude that all such other Arguments which might be produced would be 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 then those 〈◊〉 drawne from 〈◊〉 Writ In respect whereof I ●eer 〈◊〉 from f●r 〈◊〉 obie●●ing the burden 〈◊〉 which labour●s passed vpon you Arminius I accept of the paine ● most will 〈◊〉 and in 〈◊〉 of 〈…〉 will still perseue●d in my 〈…〉 tho● of 〈◊〉 by degr●●● to the 〈◊〉 Scripture Therefore my 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Authorities is taken 〈◊〉 the Pr●●●stants themselues 〈◊〉 of great ●●●●nency for learning 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 second and more serious reuiew 〈◊〉 a great auersion of iudgment do who●ly disau●●● and reiect th●● Doctrine 〈◊〉 Reprobation as most 〈◊〉 to 〈◊〉 Honour and Mercy The Protestants in so great 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 full in this poy●t 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 for orders sake I will alledg● 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 then the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 with vs in this doctrine 〈◊〉 as ●●●●ching the Caluinists I will begin 〈◊〉 with the Caluinists of Engla●● you● Country men First I 〈◊〉 M. 〈◊〉 thus waiting f In Apocalyps pag. 473. Seeing the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Redemption which taketh away the Sinn●s the world is an vniuersall thing it is de●anded whether the grace of this Redem●●ion ●● appertayne equally to all the poste●●ty of Adam or be restrayned to a certaine ●umbers I answere that the incredulity of ●en and ●● default of the Lambe maketh ●●is restraint Thus M. Fox D. Couell thus teacheth g In his defence of M. Hooker p. ●● 63. Surely 〈◊〉 hath a generall inclination to saue all c. And that with a conditionall Will he ●illeth all men to be saued who therefore ●●at they are not saued is not his decree ●●t their owne fault M. Hooker is no ●●sse strong in this doctrine saying h In hi● Ecclesiast Policy p. 104. ●ods generall inclination is that all men ●ight be saued M. Gibbons discourseth ●ereof in this sort i M. Gibb in his quest disputat vpon Genes quaest 2. pag. 108. Surely there was no ●●use in God either in his will or in his knowledge or decree that man should fall That the doctrine of Vniuersality ●f Grace which importeth that God af●●ardeth to euery man sufficient Grace ●or his owne Saluation is entertayned ●y diuers worthy men of your owne ●●●lation Enthusiastus is so euident that 〈◊〉 Willet taketh notice complaineth thereof in this manner k D. Willet in his Synops pa. 784. Vniuersality ●● grace seemeth much to be approued by 〈◊〉 Country men and hath 〈◊〉 gotten some ●airo●es in our Church But to come to the iudgment 〈◊〉 the learned Coluinicts of other Countries Hemingi●s that learned Caluini●●● dis●ours●th of Reprobation maintayn●● by his Aduersaries in this full man 〈◊〉 l Heming lib. de Vniuersali gratis pag. ●●● Pugnat cum verbo Deivocanti c. Th●● Doctrine fighteth with the Word of God calling and inuiting all men to repentan●● It maketh man partly sluggish partly secure and partly desperate For many are 〈◊〉 to despayre whiles by this opinion is ●uerthrowne the doctrine of Vniuersall Grace in which all are commanded by fayth to include themselues For if we respect 〈◊〉 Cause which is the Mercy of God in Christ● Grace is truly Vniuersall But if we respect the euent which dependeth vpon the fault of man it is particular Thus largly he disputeth hereof Bullinger as fully intreateth of this point saying m Vpon the Reuelat englished cap 5. fol. 79. The Lord dyed for 〈◊〉 but that all men are not made partakers of this Redemption is through their