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A96713 The quaking prophets two wayes proved false prophets, upon their own grounds laid down in an aiery [sic] whimsical answer to three queries ... vvith a discovery of their jugling the people out of their understanding ... also how Christ lighteneth every man that cometh into the world ... With a brief answer to three queries, sent by the Quakers to the author. / By T. Winterton. Winterton, Thomas.; Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662. Answer to three queries coming out of a dark mind, from a blind understanding. 1655 (1655) Wing W3093; ESTC R186760 13,306 16

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THE QVAKING PROPHETS Two wayes proved FALSE PROPHETS VPON Their own Grounds laid down in an aiery whimsical Answer to three Queries FIRST They are proved false in that they have not that Spirit that they themselves say is the Spirit of a true Prophet SECONDLY They are proved false in that they have not onely discovered to have in them the ground of all those abominations the which they say are Notes Characters and Signes of false Prophets but that in visible appearance some of those Fruits already sprung up in them VVith a Discovery of their jugling the People out of their Understanding whereby they are not onely made uncapable to try the Truth of what they declare to them but fitted to do whatsoever they command them Also how Christ lighteneth every man that cometh into the world a sentence continually in their mouthes and how and from whence mens actions arise in so plain a method that every one may apprehend and feel them daily working in them With a brief Answer to three Queries sent by the Quakers to the Author By T. WINTERTON London Printed by ROBERT WOOD 1655. To the READER Courteous Reader I Have presented to thy view this small Treatise wherein I have proved the Quaking Prophets false upon their own grounds whether I have or no I leave it to thy impartial judgment And forasmuch as thou mayst think it high presumption for so weak and unable a person to ingage against such a Sect when so many able learned men the sons of the Churches have 〈◊〉 off with loss I confess the Objection is of weight enough to have kept me silent had I not known the grounds on which these Rabbies opposed them on were as unsound as the Quakers were so as they but clash their errors together And a new Opinion that doth but equally defend it self alwayes gets ground and upon this score I am confident they have gained a multitude Howsoever I have put forth my firstborn * The which I have begoten upon their own grounds in whomly dress but if this were all I should be glad I fear there may be many faults the which I see not I have cause enough to be jealous in that I have seldome read a piece that hath bin wholly empty of mistakes and though this is no excuse for me yet it casteth a shadow of incouragement to crave so much favour of thee as to except the Will for the Deed it being the first fault to the which the greatest Tyrant in the world will contribute mercy especially where the mind is upright Howsoever I thought my self the fitter for this work in regard I have formerly trod these wayes of imagination bare till I was as bare my self in a worldly eye so great was my desires and yet no greater then my intention good for heaven it self was not more choice to me then the true worship of the pure God the which I imagined I had attained to and in that back of imagination I transported all my hopes for many years and through many dangers till at length I began to question my security in her whereupon making a through search I found her fit for nought but to set me ashore where I left his and returned with my adventure the which amounted to no less then a sad remembrance that I was deceived Howsoever my love and desires are still as strong and my spirit as free to serve the Lord whensoever he shall be pleased to set my feet upon a sure ground till then I wait and till then I think it better to sit still then rise and fall for I am resolved that imagination shall no more deceive me Howsoever I would be loath to change my condition with those that assume an infallible spirit or something in them above Nature the which they cannot demonstrate to a natural capacity because if they were disabled and nothing left them but what they had of this it might prove a tedious work to find in the world a lesser thing then they T. W. To the QVAKERS I Having heard some certain passages in your Exercise in White-cross street the which I desire to have had cleared but understanding you were too wise to dispute I have refted satisfied till of late there came to my hand certain Queries sent by you to the Anabaptists and conceiving you so righteous that you will give no more then you will take I have sent you three Queries 1. If there be false Prophets in the world as you say whether there be not certain notes characters and sights to know a true Prophet from a false and what that is and whether for any to affirm and declare that he is immediatly sent from the Lord and that he speaks by the spirit from the mouth of the Lord and what he speaks is infallibly true and yet can give no other testimony but his own word and his Associats whether this be not rather a character of a false Prophet then a true but if a true then whether every one may not be a true Prophet that will 2 Whether there be any light in man but what is seated in the understanding and whether the understanding receiveth not its light from the information of the sence and whether any information but what is from thence is not meerly imaginary 3 Whether it be necessary to believe any that shall say they have something in them above Nature or supernatural unless they can demonstrate something in them that cannot be found in a naturall person and whether there be any greater note of one truly spiritual or having something in them above Nature then so to love Christ and the Gospel as freely to lay down his life for the truth of it And whether many Jesuits of late at Tyburn have not done this and whether there be not an opposition between you and the Church of Rome T. W. An Answer to three Queries coming out of a dark mind from a blind understanding propounded by Thomas Winterton to us called Quakers 1. Query IN this Query thou askest whether there be a certain note character or sign to know the true Prophets from the false and what that is and whether for any to affirm and declare that he is sent immediate from the Lord and that he speakes by the spirit from the mouth of the Lord and what he thus speakes is infallibly true and yet can give no other testimony but his own words and his associats whether this be not rather the character of a false Prophet then a true but if a true then whether every one that will may not be a true Prophet Answ Yea there is a note a character and a sign by which the true Prophet from the false may be known and they are read by the spirit of the Lord which comprehendeth the ground from which each doth spring which spirit was and is in the true Prophet which is Christ Jesus And is is written and if any man have not this