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B20672 Truths testimony and a testimony of truths appearing in power, life, light & glory, creating, manifesting, increasing, and vindicating itself in the midst of persecution : wherein is discovered what truth is, and also a lye, who knows it and lives in it : with the authors call and conversion to the truth, his practice in it, his publishing of it, and his several tryals for the same ... : together with the particular accusations brought against him in each tryal and his answers to the same, and also the courts proceedings both by judges and juries : with an humble appeal to His Highness, Oliver, Lord Protector, as a general redress for all people / by Richard Coppin. Coppin, Richard, fl. 1646-1659. 1655 (1655) Wing C6105 74,193 93

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So Judge Nicholes without any oath made by any man against me demanded of me bail for my appearance at Oxford Assizes which was six moneths after that and would not suffer me to speak for my self but took part with my accusers Then I desired of him law and justice and told him that there being nothing upon oath proved against me there was no reason that I should stand any longer bound Said the Judge if I will have it so you shall stand bound c Answ My Lord if you will make your will a Law I cannot help that but this I know that as you use the exactness of the Law●n condemning those whom the Law condemns so you ought to use the exactness of the Law in freeing those whom the ●aw frees But the Law at this time frees me therefore I desire it No said the Judge you shall not be freed for I understand that you take upon you to preach and never stayed to take your degrees at the University you shall therefore appear at Oxford to answer to those things there And said the Judge if I would take upon me to preach I could preach as well as you and better for I was bred up to more learning then you and yet I wil not take it upon me because I was not called to it c. Answer My Lord I was called to Preach and you were not do you know what the call is if you did you would not oppose it and if it be the Lords will that I must appear at Oxford to answer things as I have done at Worcester his will be done for I remember what the Lord said unto Paul when he was bound from place to place Act. 23.11 Be of good cheer Paul said he for as thou hast testified of me in Jerusalem so must thou bear witness also at Rome and now am I not only ready to be bound but to suffer for his name and to bear witness of the Truth at Oxford as I have done at Worcester and shall have peace in all things therein knowing it to be the Lords cause for which I stand bound So giving in bayl and paying the Fees of the Court I was dismissed until the next appearance at Oxford CHAP. X. The Authors tryal at Oxford Assizes before Serjeant Green the particular accusations against him and his answers to them with the proceedings of the Court and how also the ignorance of the Jury and the malice of his Adversaries discovered VPon the tenth day of March 1652. I appeared at Oxford Assizes where Ralph Nevil of Emload and Giles Collier of Blockly in the County of Worcester preferred a Bill of Indictment against me to the Grand Jury as they said for blasphemy the Charge therein is as follows The Charge in the Indictment FIrst That I should say That Christ dyed for his own sins at well as the Peoples Secondly That there is no heaven and hell but what is in man Thirdly That everlasting life should end in this life These are the things which by them I was Indicted for as blasphemy and which by the Grand Jury were so found and returned to the Court that I was put upon the tryal thereof But before you come to the tryal I shall speak something of both Juries as of carnal natural men and so ignorant of such things as they were to enquire into concerning me for the natural man knows not the things of God neither can he because they are spiritually discerned but sure for the most part they were but carnal men therefore in such things ignorant men and against such things malitious men as hath been known being also men for the most part known to be of the Bishops and Presbyterian opinion very few of the Independents though there is but little difference between them in their opinions concerning their judgements and knowledge in such things of whom it may be said and also proved as hath appeared by their practise that they aim more at their own worldly private and self-interests then at the glory of God or good of other people and which is well known have been and gladly would be persecutors of those that live godly in Christ Jesus and that are not the same with them in their opinions as hath appeared by some of them which both I and others have already known by experience yet I love them still in the same love as I love all others and will the salvation of their souls as of all others though they may not so love me but hate me for that they never saw or heard from me And therefore it is most evident that they proceeded against me from the malice they had to me and not any thing known by me for any blasphemy there was in it for I am sure there was none neither could any be found either by the Law of God or of man as first for the Law of God I am sure it is not for there is nothing in all the Scripture writ against it however all blasphemy on Gods part is forgiven and Christ hath already answered for it in the behalf of all men And secondly for the Law of man or any late Act of Parliament made against blasphemy I am also sure that there is never a particular contained in this Bill that comes within the compass of the Act as for the first and last particulars in the Bill that Christ should die for his own sins as well as for the peoples and that everlasting life should end in this life there is no mention of it made in the Act. Then for the second that there is no heaven and hell but what is in man there is no mention made of it neither as these words are laid down and expressed in the Bill for the A●● saith If any shall avow and affirm that there is no heaven and hell then it is blasphemy according to that Act but in this Bill or in these words before mentioned there is a heaven and a hell acknowledged though not such a one as some men would have but such a one as is in man which is according to the Scripture and some mens experience yet not that any other is denyed which by others may be proved and there being in the Bill a heaven and a hell acknowledged it therefore comes not within the compass of the Act and then cannot be found guilty by the Act. Again the witnesses to the Bill do confess that these words fell in by way of dispute or conference after Sermon and were not spoke in Sermon therefore cannot be said to be avowed and affirmed as the Judge did very well make it appear in the tryal and which if the honest behaviour of the Juries had extended so far they before they had condemned it should have examined whether the words in the Bill did reach any Act of Parliament or no that made it appear to be what in the Bill it was said to be without which they ought not to have
and of which if I would have recanted preferment by some was proffered me but there was one within me which resisted and said Get thee behind me Satan I will none of it neither is it Herod with all the chief of the Priests and Scribes of the people that he had gathered together that can destroy the childe Jesus after once he is born nor could these with all their subtilty destroy that which was born in me or bring me to a recantation of what I had declared that I immediately departed out of these coasts and saw much of God in it for I went strait abroad publishing the same things with boldness both in writing and speaking in several Countreys where I was desired to come And there living in that Countrey of Barkshire where I first began to publish these things a man of eminency in the world whom the Priests knew to be zealous for them and their ways and they having not prevailed with me to write a recantation of those things I held they then prevailed with him to joyn with them in buying up as many as they could get of the foresaid books entituled Divine Teachings in which those things were published that they might spread no farther amongst the people of which books they bought to the value of about ten pounds worth having no other way to stop them and which the Priests would have had him to have burned but he was wiser then so and said that he would rather keep them for waste paper and did not know but that they might yield him his money again if the things should after come in request but however these books are again reprinted and the things therein still maintained by me being the same in me Thus we see how some men out of zeal to their own opinions and others for lucre of gain not yet knowing the truth will endeavour to binder the spreading of truth and so through ignorance and blind zeal will turn persecutors of Christ his Kingdom and the Righteousness thereof This Kingdom of Christ and all things therein as love joy peace life light heaven and salvation in Christ alone I ever since I knew it and tasted of it have not ceased to write of publish and declare in several Countreys Acts 28.30 31. both in publique and private from house to house in their Churches Streets and Market places where the Lord hath been pleased to carry me and where people desired me to come and were assembled together to hear me I never desiring to be chargeable to any to hinder any from coming into the Kingdom of the Lord which is a free Kingdom 1 Cor. 9 12 18 19. neither would I ever yield to take any outward maintenance from any upon that account of preaching for that was but Antichrists hire in Antichrists Kingdom which most men yet have appeared to live in nay the purest Churches of Independents and Anabaptists as well as Prelates and Presbyterians which though they have not all took tythes they have took money or moneys worth and so cannot say as Paul did I have coveted no mans gold Acts 20.33 silver or apparel which is all but Antichrists pay in Antichrists Kingdom to Antichrists servants whose servants all are that preach for gain or hire and not for pure love to Christ and all people John 10.8.10 and Christ saith of the hirelings that they are but Thieves and Robbers and fly when he that is free cometh and this would quickly be maniefest were but tythes and the Priests hire put down and every one have freedom to preach that could I will warrant you that those Preachers that were sent from Oxford and Cambridge would quickly fly from you leave you and preach no more to you and yet you would have more Preachers then are now for then every one that had received any thing of God would freely declare it and this would be according to the Gospel rule which saith When thou art converted strengthen thy brother and As every man hath received the gift so let them administer one to another and not one to forbid another for let one that preaches freely come into the Church or Parish of him that preaches for hire and the hireling will presently forbid the freeman saying this is my house and my Parish or Foxes hole you shall not preach here Ma●th 8 20. and though the men of the Parish to wit the Master would have him yet the servant forbids him And doth not the servant here exalt himself above the Master the Priest above the people but surely he that exalts himself shal be brought low and he that humbles himself shall be exalted and it is enough that the servant be as his Master and not above his Master though it hath been so hitherto between the people and their Ministers What is the Church but the Town-house in which the Priest the Town-servant is to do the Towns work for which he receives the Towns wages And what if the Master be willing that the servant should sit still and set another to do his work notwithstanding the servant shall still have his wages O but here is a slavish fear in the servant that if another should do his work better then him it would be to his disgrace and more then that if the master should once find that he could have his work done freely he would then hire no more and what would then become of the hireling he must pack up and be gone and so saith Christ The hireling flyeth because he is an hireling John 10.13 14. and careth not for the sheep I am the good Shepherd saith he and know my sheep and am known of mine And sure Christ never preached for hire nor any that ever he sent that ever I read of in Scripture then those that do were never sent by him but by his enemy the Devil or Man of Sin to keep up a Kingdom contrary to his and it is very likely that the Man of Sin is their Master that sent them because they so much preach up sin unpardoned which is the keeping up of his Kingdom in which they live and without which they could not live as to keep up that trade of buying and selling the Word of God for they live by telling the people of their sins Jer. 5.30 31. and some people love to have it so who live in the same Kingdom with them and that love to pay them But in the Kingdom of Christ which is a free Kingdom there is no such thing there is no sin unpardoned therefore no telling the people so neither do the people there love to have it so but there is all sin pardoned for all men past present and to come and those that are sent by Christ and that live in that Kingdom come with that message in their mouthes That all sin is pardoned and all men forgiven Dan. 9.24 sin and transgression finished and everlasting Righteousness brought in
by Christ alone and this is my message which I have to all the world and which I am to deliver freely and for which those that have not the same message to deliver do hate me and persecute me but I passed them all by and would not be partaker of their sins and he that hath kept me hitherto keeps me still that I may not do Antichrists work neither receive Antichrists wages or live by the sins of the people as some others do But some may say Did you never receive any money for preaching I answer I never received any that ever I put in my own purse but where there was money appointed for preaching and no Priest there to challenge it as his propriety that either I must dispose of it or others whom it concerned not must put it in their own purses I gave order that the poor of each Parish might have it as will be witnessed in several places Acts 20.33 34 35. and therefore can say with Paul I have coveted no mans silver or gold or apparel yet of this will I not glory but I will glory in the Lord who hath so far kept me from being a hireling in Antichrists Kingdom that he will rather make all my ways appear more for the abominating and throwing down of all such Antichristian ways of maintenance then for the setting of it up for which the Priests and all Impropriators with all that live in that and the like maintenance that knew me or had heard of me could never abide me but always persecuted me sought for my imprisonment banishment or silencing and also my life While I was thus carried forth in contending for the truth yet was I still ready to spend and be spent for the good of all people even my enemies and was more ready to give then to receive according to my ability 2 Cor. 12.15 Acts 20.35 and so still at peace in my self through all things with Christ in God that ever I undertook and went through by him in all my proceedings to this day CHAP. V. The Authors further proceedings in his dealings with men in all conditions under their several Forms and Administrations That his Doctrine never tended to draw men to any Opinion under any one Form of Worship but to press forwards to the life of God in Christ above the Whorish Religion and Vanities of the World that to l●ve in Vnity Peace and Love with all men having peace with God is the pure Religion ANd now the manner of my farther dealings in Judgement and Doctrine with men in all conditions under their several Forms Administrations or Dispensations was still a pressing of them forwards after Christ to the knowledge of the truth as it is in Jesus and not a staying of men any where or endeavouring to draw men to any Form Way Worship or Opinion from Christ neither to rail against any man of any opinion whatsoever but to speak the truth to all shewing what all those opinions of men are and what and where they themselves are while under them and how they are to forsake all and follow Christ be they Prelates Presbyterians Independents Anabaptists or whatsoever opinion else may be found out by man besides Christ all are to pass away and they are to pass them all by as by so many harlots houses Prov. 7. standing by the ways side by which poor souls are to pass before they come to their rest and into which as into so many Ale-houses or Taverns many thousand of poor souls are allured and drawn aside to eat and to drink and commit fornication with the Inhabitants thereof neglecting their journey to Canaan or Mount Sion and where for some time they take up their rest that many pass by them and get into heaven before them while they are feasting with harlots Rev. 17.14 15. the daughters of the great Whore that sits upon many waters and on the mountains of mens holiness eating bread and drinking wine until the Lord come to feast with them there and by a strong hand overcome them pull them down or bring them forth and so lead them on carrying them by all those opinions of men onely to knock at their doors as some have done before look in upon them and behold their devotion but not to go into them Prov. 7.27 lest they should be devoured by them For their house is the way to hell going down to the chambers of death Therefore let not your hearts be inclined to their ways go not astray in their pathes lest you should stay or be seduced by them But say friends come away this is not your rest arise depart for it is polluted and if you stay it will destroy you with a sore destruction Micah 2.10 This say unto them but go not in for if you go in to them the Devil will come and take you make you drunk and there cause you to stay and so make you become Devils with him or them to accuse and persecute eat devour and condemn one another or all that come not in to you and be the same with you in your opinions Therefore I advise you not to stay any where Col. 3.1 2. nor to set your minds desires and affections upon any thing below Christ in the way you are to go to Christ but still in all this your worshipping of God as you call it to press forwards to the mark Phil. 3. for the price of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus where you will then rest be at peace and be satisfied and where you will no more accuse persecute judge devour and condemn one another as you do but where you will be reconciled in love one to another and to all men though your greatest enemies And this is the advice that I give to all men in all that I say unto them to press forwards to the knowledge of the truth as it is in Jesus and I do not go about to set up any thing below the Lord Jesus nor to draw men to any opinion of things besides him but to shew them the vanity and nothingness of all the ways and opinions of men below him declaring what they are in themselves and their places shewing that they are but notions and so mens inventions shadows dying vanities tormenting pleasures things that would perish and come to an end with the using after the commandments and doctrines of men Job 14.14 yet never declared against them so as to forbid any of them that saw their life in them but bid all men to wait till their change come and not to go forth by their own strength or awake their beloved before his time Cant. 2.7 till he shall come with a strong hand and lead them forth and so place them in their own land as in himself And now having shewed them the vanity of all those things I then set before them the love of God in Christ Jesus with exhortations to love
one another as a sure testimony of their love to God for the which I have been hated and persecuted by some men of all opinions and religions whatsoever in the world whether Papists Prelates Presbyterians Independents Anabaptists Ranters Quakers and whatsoever opinion else below the truth though I love them all and am with them all and they all with me but a cloud is over them that they see me not neither know me that is they see not my life being not yet reconciled to it yet when this cloud shall be taken away from all and the Sun of Righteousness risen in all Matth 23. ● then shall they see both me and one another and have joy in each other and be at peace with all men as being all brethren of one family sons of one Father heirs of one Kingdom and so see themselves and all men dwelling together in one City or heaven God And this is pure Religion the new Jerusalem the Kingdom of the Lord and end of their journey where the wolf shall dwell with the lamb that is the wicked with the godly or men of all opinions meet and agree in one union and fellowship in the Lord Jesus And where the leopard shall lie down with the kid and the calf and the young lyon and the fatlings together and a little child to wit Christ shall lead them and the cow and the bear shall feed or all men who have been of different judgements shall be of one mind in the Lord their young ones shall lye down together all men shall bring forth their seed unto God and the lyon shall eat straw like the ox or God will tame the wildest of creatures the persecutingst and most devouringst of men or of things in men that all shall be alike in knowledge and the sucking childe shall play on the hole of the asp Isa 11. and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice den or he that is sucking at the breast and he that is weaned from the breast of his own Religion and shall not one envy another for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea that is God will so manifest himself that all men and creatures shall be in union together love one another and do unto others as they would others should do unto them this is the Law and the Prophets and this is the Kingdom of the Lord and high calling of God which all men are to press after and not to rest till they are come in to it and is no more nor no less then what I have always declared as that which I received of the Lord yet not that I Richard Coppin as a creature could at any time give to another what I my self have received or teach another what I am taught or do for another what the Lord hath done for me in that case but I onely declare what I have received of the Lord and am taught by the Lord and what the Lord may do for others when the time appointed of the Father shall come for he that gives to me as a creature must give to them as creatures Isa 2 22. and he that taught me must teach them if ever they be taught the truth therefore cease from man whose breath is in h● nostrils 1 John 2. for wherein is he to be accounted of and eye him the Lord Jesus or that anointing within you who is the salvation of all men and whom you are to hear in all things for all others besides him that go forth as Teachers of the people are but false Teachers and Seducers according to the Scripture but the Lord alone or this anointing in us is our onely Teacher and men in speaking one to another can do no more as they are men but tell one another what the Lord hath done for them as the Prophet David saith Come hear and I will tell thee what the Lord hath done for my soul and what we have seen and heard we declare unto you saith Paul which declarations of men may conform each other in something which they before have had some little experience of in themselves the Lord working with it though they did not so know it as to utter it which when it is declared to them they may then set their seals to it as truth to them there being in them the same spirit witnessing to the same things which makes them believe it For he that believes hath the witness in himself but if there be not the same spirit witnessing in him that hears as is in him that speaks they cannot believe or set seal to the truth of what is spoken any further then it agrees with their own spirits or opinions but will rather persecute it to the death and also them that shall declare it as they have done to Christ the Apostles and others since that from thence and from ●uch arises all persecutions And so having brought you thus far to shew unto you my proceedings hitherto both of my life and doctrine delivered to the world I shall go on and therein set before you a larger path of my persecution and tryals both at Worcester Oxford and at Glocester as of things considerable from the first beginning to the end as a further testimony to the truth And first of my tryal at Worcester and the proceedings thereunto CHAP. VI. The Ministers malicious proceedings against the Author in Worcestershire to bring him to a tryal His examination before several Justices and Ministers and his being bound over to Worcester Assizes how and for what THe first proceedings of the Ministers against me to bring me to a tryal at Worcester was from my preaching at Emload in Worcestershire where I was desired by some of the Eminentest men of that Parish to come and there to preach where I continued for the space of four days declaring the things which I had seen and heard of the Lord both in publique and private with the desire of the people and the consent of the said Minister of that place But the said Minister finding the people so much adhering to what I delivered and believing in it more then in what he himself usually delivered amongst them he began to be wrath and was troubled and fearing that he should lose his flock or at least the benefit he received of them he sent and caused a dispute or at least a vain jangling to be between some certain Ministers of that Countrey and my self while I was there some of whose names are as follows Eason of Batsford Collier of Blackly Nevil and others as Ministers to the people in their several Parishes but no grace could they minister to the hearers and therefore cannot be said in truth to be Ministers of Christ but of Antichrist as appeared by what they declared to the people as also by their practise for they endeavoured to prove the Law under that administration of Moses to be