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A28531 The second apologie to Balthazar Tylcken treating of the eternall predestination and election of God, and of the incarnation, or becoming man and person, of Christ, and concerning the Virgin Mary / written in the yeare 1621, finished the 3. of July by Jacob Behme, also called Teutonicus Philosophus ; Englished by John Sparrow.; Zweyte Schutz-Schrift wieder Balthasar Tilken. English Böhme, Jakob, 1575-1624.; Sparrow, John, 1615-1665? 1661 (1661) Wing B3416; ESTC R14771 54,352 66

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which lyeth IN himself he bringeth his work which he is chosen to by Nature to the highest PERFECTION and can see all things into the Heart must not that be a Jewel above all the precious things of this World 19. If you should meete with any thing in my Writings that were unintelligible and too high I entreat you to Observe it and send it me in Writing and I will render it in a Childish manner 20. But since I observe you have a very sublime understanding therefore I exhort and entreat you in a right entention as it is set before God that Men would enter into such a Life and Live and Converse in the knowledge that we may be found as First-fruits in the Lord in SION 21. The Lord N. at N if you did come into acquaintance with him I entreat you to Judge of his Gifts for he is zealous and a great Seeker God give him that he may finde and I entreat you to send the Inclosed Writing to him with the soonest opportunity wherein you will do him and me a pleasure also send this with it to the Lord N or to N. that he may send it to him 22. In respect of the venomous spitefull Pasquill or Libel of the unintelligent zealous Person I have given Three and twenty sheets in answer but have kept up that Answer to this time that the Man might not be discountenanced hoping that by the Information of Good People he would somewhat become seeing and still I have forbidden it to be given abroad that if it were possible he might forsake his Malice or Malignity else if the Answer should be published he would have small cause of boasting as he supposeth to have by it in the meane time deliver this to be considered of a little by HIM 23. If he will not be thus satisfied to converse in brotherly Love let him certainly believe that where Gods Love is his Anger is also that will shew him that he will be ashamed thereof and wish that he never had begun it but if he will be quiet then may this Answer be laid up in some knowne place he may assuredly believe that I see further than he understandeth 24. For a Time openeth it self which is wonderfull which in my Writings is enough signified it certainly cometh therefore earnestnesse and sincerity is necessary to be used 25. Out of respect and for Gods honour sake I have friendly answered the knowne Person for I regard More the Children of God viz my Eternall Brethren than my Vindication or Justification for I willingly suffer-reproach for the sake of Truth and of the honour of Christ for it is the Badg or Livery of Christ I send it to your honour friendly and Commit you together with all those that Love JESVS into the Grace of Jesus Christ Dated the 3. of July 1621. Jacob Behme The INTRODUCTION To the Answer To Balthasar Tylcken's aspersing Pamphlet concerning some Points or Conclusions in the Book of the Becoming Man or Incarnation of Jesus Christ by him Opposed JACOB BEHME Warneth his Fellow-Brethren The Open fountaine in the Heart of JESVS CHRIST be our Quickening and Life and let it bring us into his Light in a Brotherly Love and Child-like Union that we may converse in his power or vertue and love and know our selves in Him 1. DEare Sirs and Brethren in Christ in what dangerous Lodging in the vale of this Earthly Tabernacle in Flesh and Bloud in the Kingdome of the Starres and Elements we lye captive in the Opposition and assaults of the Devill and in what Dangerous Wayes of the Devill in the Lusts of Flesh and Bloud we use to walke unlesse the bright Morning Starre of the Heart of Jesus Christ awaken or arise in US is not sufficiently to be spoken or written 2. How indeed the World so altogether departeth from the wayes of the Divine Light and goeth grouping in the Dark neither will they suffer themselves to be helped but doe only despise and scorne Gods Messengers which are often sent to them from God out of his Love to warne them of their ungodly wayes this we all see and know alas too much how the own self Reason from the Starres and Elements layeth and setteth it selfe against the open fountaine of the Love in the Heart of JESUS CHRIST and scorneth all that which God sets before them for a Warning and Teaching as was done in the Time of Christ and his Apostles wherein the Reason-wise Schooles not only Scorned the simplicity of the Persons that taught the Kingdome of Christ but also despised all Wonders or Miracles and held only their own dissembling Hypocriticall Reason to be true and right 3. And as it was at the Time of Noah before the Deluge or Floud also at Sodom and Gomorrha also at the time of the destruction of the Jewish people also among the Heathen before Israel was brought out of Egypt into their Land or Country when they drave them out and slew them so also it is in this present Time wherein all live in Strife or Contention and Opposition and rage and rave against God and the way of righteousnesse as Mad-men and yet alwayes Cry Here is the Church of CHRIST avoyd such a one he is Mad or Senslesse and from the Devill 4. And yet One party liveth as wickedly as the other they carry the Name of God in their Mouthes for a shew as an Oath and yet their Heart sticketh full of Gall venome or poyson and bitternesse There is no feare of God in their Hearts their Mouth is full of Cursing reproaching scandalous deriding Blasphemies there is no desire to Love and Concord or unanimity in their Hearts but Pride State Covetousnesse and vaine voluptuousnesse only that they continually list up themselves above Gods Children and to obscure and overthrow their way which they walke in the Light of God that their Teaching and Life might not be knowne and that the Devill may continue to be Chiefe Great Prince in the humane Will and Government or Dominion therefore they blaspheme scandalize and reproach the Children of God and account them for Fooles that they may remaine Covered in Obscurity 5. And that which is more horrible thus the Divine Omnipotence must be a Cloake or Mantle to hide their wickednesse wherewith they cover themselves and mix Gods Will therein as if Nothing were done without Gods Will and that all of it is only Gods purpose or predestination who from Eternity hath concluded in himselfe what shall be manifested in the Time whether it be Evill or Good 6. Whereas they yet understand nothing of God nor his Will or Substance yes they are as blinde concerning it as one that is born blinde is to the visible things of this World as is cleerly discovered and presented to view in this aspersing Pamphlet against the Book of the Becoming Man or Incarnation of Christ and in his former Pasquil or Libellous Pamphlet against the Avrora
will not cast the Pearle under your Feet know that nor under None 53. I have my knowledge and skill not from Conceit or Opinions as you have but I have a living skill or knowledge in the visibility Experience or perceptibility I need no Doctor from the Schools of this World about it for I have not learned it from them but from Gods Spirit therefore I am not afraid of your Clamour and Scorne Of a right Christian And of the Divine Wisdome the Eternall Virgin that is no Genetrix 54. DEare Sirs and Brethren in Christ I pray be Schollers of Gods Wisdome let none say of Himself I understand it we know nothing concerning God what HE is but Gods Spirit must become the knowing in US else our knowing is but Fiction a continuall Confusednesse a continuall Learning and understanding nothing in the Ground of the Center 55. What is it for me to speak much of the Wisdome out of the Scripture and could repeat the Bible without Book and understood nothing of what the Wise Men have spoken and out of what Spirit and knowledge if also I have not the same Spirit which they had HOW then shall I understand them 56. To such knowledge belongeth not Conceits and to collect together a heap or abundance of Texts to his purpose THAT no Holy Man or wise Man hath done but a living Spirit out of God can See the Mystery and converse in its own knowledge 57. Gods Spirit must be IN the Reason if Reason will see God there belongeth an humble resigned heart to it not a Scorner in Reason where Reason boasteth it self to be enlightened that is only a Sydereall or Starry Enlightening to be so sharp witted 58. If any be a Child of God then let him seek his Brother in the Love of God and then I can trust him but while he is a Scorner he hath put on the Devills Vizard and Hood and goeth about in Pride he is no Christian but a Mouth or Lip-Christian and Consufed Babel as indeed such Books of Controversie or Contention and Hypocrisie are ALL Babel 59. Let one shew another the Way of God in Love Humility and in the Fear of God as becometh the Children of God then such Contemning would not exist in the World whereby the simple Layick is seduced and totally ignorant of the Cause falleth on in reproach and Contempt against his Brother who is not of his Opinion or Sect of Religion and yet One in a Religion which without Gods Spirit and Power is but a conceit and Opinion is as blinde as the other 60. For the true Religion standeth not alone in outward Words in appearance or shew but in Living active power that one desireth from the Ground of his Heart to performe to another what he knoweth he ought to doe 61. It must come into deed else it is but a Coloured or Painted faith a Historicall Babel where Gods Spirit is not there is no Faith also no Christian but where that is there it worketh cleere works of Love he teacheth and reproveth Meekly he is not puffed up and Scornfull as my Opponent 62. He will needs write out the Ground of the divine Wisdome scorn my Explanation which I have spoken from the Center Confirm himself with the Collected Texts of Scripture despiseth that which I have Written That the Wisdom is a Virgin without Generating that she is NO Genetrix but that the Spirit of God is her Life and Generating which Revealeth or Manifesteth in her the Divine Wonder and he will set that which is better in the stead thereof 63. He saith the Wisdome suffereth and Generateth and he collecteth a heap of Texts for proof Who now is at odds with him in this Not I I say the same and he writeth but my words but understandeth not my Sense or Thoughts he is at Odds with himself 64. I speak out of the Center and he from the Substance that is Generated I understand that the Wisdome is not the Center or the Opener but Gods Spirit is that I understand thus to speak in a Similitude that as the Soul in the Body manifesteth or revealeth it self through the Essence of the Flesh and that the Flesh had not the Might or strength if there were not a living Spirit in it so also Gods Wisdome is the Out-spoken Substance where through the Power and the Spirit of God manifesteth or revealeth it self in Forms understand in Divine Forms and Shapes in the Wonders 65. It generateth or beareth indeed but it is not the Divine Principle or the Center of the Genetrix but the Mother wherein the Father Worketh 66. And therefore I call it a Virgin because it is the Modest Chastity and purity of God and carrieth no Desire backward to the Fire but its longing pleasure or Lust of Delight goeth forward with or in the Revelation or Manifestation of the Deity 67. She could generate Nothing if the Spirit of God did not work in her and therefore she is NO Genetrix but the Looking-Glasse of the Deity the Spirit of God generateth in her he is her Life she is his Chist Cabinet or Body she is the Holy Spirits Corporeity in her lye the Colours of the Vertue for she is the Out-spoken Substance which the Father comprehendeth out of the Chaos that is out of himself without besides beyond or before Nature in the Nothing and bringeth the same forth with the desire to Nature through the Eternall Nature through the first Principle through the Fire of his Might into the Second Principle in the Divine Power into the Light of the Majesty 68. It is that which the Father from Eternity in Eternity continually re-comprehendeth which the Father who is a Fire and Light introduceth into his Fire-Life to the Center of his Heart 69. She is the highest Substantiality of the Deity without her God would not be Manifested or Revealed but would be only a Will but through the Wisdome he bringeth himself into Substance so that he is Manifested or Revealed to himself 70. And therefore I call her a Virgin being she is in the Marriage with God so that she generateth without a Fire-life for in her the Light or the right Divine Life Manifesteth or Revealeth it self she is a Virgin of the Modest Chastity and purity of God and yet is in the Marriage with God 71. Thou suttle prudent School or Vniversity from the Constellation if thou didst here understand the Ground thou wouldst NEED NO Books more ALL lyeth herein the Stone of the Wise Men or Philosophers STONE lyeth in this place but first put off your rough Garment and then you will see it Of the Third Principle which is the Bride of God and how the Spirit of God is no Principle and yet is a Principle 72. NOw when I speak of the Third Principle I understand the Outward World Then saith my Opponent God hath made it through his Wisdome and proveth it by Scripture and I
suffers to be because Men only use his holy Name to Cursing and Swearing and so misuse it and in the knowledge of his Name and Will are only selfe-willed and use his Name only for a Reproach so that one brother despiseth another only for the sake of the knowledge of his Name though he should seek him in his knowledge in Love and goe before him with a holy Life 319. What now are the Christians so called better than Turks and Heathens if they live Turkish'y and more then Turkishly or Heathenishly Where is the Christian and Evangelicall Fruit 320. Every one faith It will be good when this Evill is past and gone but I tell you in true knowledge that it will not be good but worse and worse unlesse you Convert every one in himselfe and turne his Heart and Minde to Love and condescension else one people will devoure another and the Countreys will Consume Wast and Destroy Themselves and there will be such a vaine Evill World that they will not be worthy to be called Men. 321. And this they will doe themselves one among another and there will be a Generall Mixture and Confusion of People in the Strife no one part better than another till the Anger of God Satiate its sierce Wrath and the people introduce themselves into the highest perdition and misery and then thou wilt see and learne to know thy selfe what thou hast been in thy Pride when thou art Naked and wilt Seek the Lord in thy Misery and see what Evill thou hast done to thy SELFE 322. Therefore my deare Brethren Seek but the Pearle all you that entend to avoyd the Anger of God look not one upon the Life of another but upon his OWN For it is no more Disputing but either Convert or perish 323. The Time of Disputation and Babling is out you will get no further with Disputation but with the Regeneration in the Spirit of Christ you will reach and obtaine the Pearle so that you need never to Dispute More 324. Let every one be in Sincere Earnest and seek himselfe in himselfe and see what he is and Consider how to Seek his brother in Love let him but goe out from Covetousnesse and Pride and Content himselfe with food and Rayment and put his trust in God who giveth Raine and blessing 325. Indeed we take nothing along with us from this World why then doe we then contend about that which is vaine and thereby squander and loose that which is untransitory it must come to the Limit or Mark or else it will be still worse and that People which will not enter into this Limit or Mark must be quite devoured and Consumed saith the Spirit of Wonders 326. This I would not have concealed from you Deare Sirs and Brethren in Christ who reade my Writings and make use of them in consideration of my Opponent and I exhort you brotherly as also my Opponent that you would lay the Holy Scriptures upon my Writings but in the Scripture seek nothing else then the Paternall Love-Heart of JESUS CHRIST and then you will well FINDE from what Spirit I have written 327. But he that hath no minde to doe this let him leave my Writings at rest for I have written Nothing for him I have written them for my selfe without any thought how it would goe with them neither doe I know how it cometh to passe that they run so abroad for I have not run after any body with them and I wonder as much as you what the Most High doth about them 328. Yet Observe it and become seeing for the Day breaketh or dawneth if you will learne rightly to understand my Writings then you will be freed from all Contention and Strife and learne to know your selves yet indeed the Letter cannot doe it but only the Living Spirit of Christ the way is faithfully shewne you 329. Now doe what thou wilt the Harvest is neere that every one will partake of what he hath gathered into his Barne I speake from my whole Heart very Earnestly in my knowledge given Me of God and Commend my selfe into your brotherly Love into the Deare and Precious Name of JESUS CHRIST Dated the 3. July 1621. 330. Rejoyce in the LORD all Countreys and Praise him all People For his Name goeth over all Mountaines and Hills HE shooteth forth like a Sprout and goeth on in Great Wonders who will hinder it HALLELV-JAH A Postscript of the Translatour into Nether-Dutch out of the Three High-Dutch Copies and this English Translation out of a High-Dutch Copy was Compared with it Who writes thus THis Treatise was Written in Answer to Balthasar Tylcken concerning some Poynts in the Book of the Becoming Man or Incarnation of Jesus Christ This Balthasar Tylcken first wrote a reproachfull Book against Jacob Behme Concerning some Poynts in the AVRORA which Jacob Behme hath Answered in the First Apology to Balthasar Tylcken afterwards Tylcken opposed some Poynts in the Book of the Incarnation of Jesus Christ and added some Sheets as an Appendix to that Book which were sent over to Jacob Behme upon which his Answer was as is to be found in this Second Apology of His. Here follow the CONTENTS Of the SECTIONS As they were Devided by the Translatour into the Nether-Dutch I. Part. Apo to Tylcken II. Of Predestination A Letter or Preface concerning Verses 15. I. An Introduction to the Answer an Exhortation and marning from vers 1. to 18. II. What the first Principle or Dark World is How the Fire is not the first Principle He that will attaine the Spirit of the Principle must first become a Foole to the World From v. 19. to 53. III. Of a right Christian and of the Eternall Wisdome which is no Genetrixs From v. 54. to 71. IV. Of the Third Principle What the Bride of God is and how the Spirit of God is no Principle and yet is One. From vers 72 to 86. V. Why the Outward World is a Principle of its own Out of what the Angels are out of what joy Existeth The Model of this World is Eternall From vers 87. to 94. VI. How the Soul is proceeded out of all the Three Worlds Of the Might or Strength and of the Free Will of the Soul Of the drawing of the Father And what it is to beleeve above all Reason From vers 95. to 117. VII Of the grosse errour of Balthasar Tylcken concerning the Seed of Adam upon which he buildeth his Election From 118. to 126. VIII Why God hated Cain and Esau and loved Abel and Jacob and who are the lost Sinners for whose sake Christ came From 127. to 133. IX What the hardening is how the Love of God warneth Sinners Also how the Love of God is as Almighty to preserve as his Anger is to destroy From vers 134. to 143. X. What God is How without the Darknesse all would be Nothing And in what Manner man hath ability to goe out of Evill
The Second APOLOGIE to Balthazar Tylcken treating of the Eternall PREDESTINATION and Election of GOD and of the INCARNATION or Becoming Man and PERSON of CHRIST and Concerning the VIRGIN MARY Written in the Yeare 1621. Finished the 3. of July by Jacob Behme Also called Teutonicus Philosophus Englished by JOHN SPARROW LONDON Printed by M. S. for Giles Calvert and are to be sold at his Shop at the Black-Spread-Eagle at the West end of St. Pauls 1661. He that Beleeveth is certainly Foreseen He that Beleeves not hath most Regardless been He that Beleeveth is certainly Elected He that Beleeves not hath's Election Rejected A Letter Or a PREFACE To Herre J. D. K. Written when this Treatise was Finished 1. ESteemed truly Honourable highly Learned Sir after my hearty desiring of the Grace Love and Mercy of our Dear IMMANUEL as also all temporall welfare of Body for you I will not conceal from you Sir that I have received and read the Book with the Appendix and considered the Opposers understanding apprehension and Opinion in the Love and Fear of God and sufficiently understand in what apprehension the Man runneth on and that he hath not at all in the least understood my Writings 2. Also I very much Lament the Man that he hath plunged himself into such a Lake with the Election of God out of which assuredly he cannot get unlesse he learne to understand the Center of all things or substances 3. Also he lamentably goeth astray concerning the humanity of Christ and concerning his Mother Mary which Opinion is quite contrary to our Christian or Spirituall Faith upon which our Restored Salvation standeth 4. But I desire from my heart that this Man might become seeing for he is zealous for then his Zeale would be profitable only the way which he now goeth is an Open Gate to all vanity or Licentiousnesse and despair and there must a severe accompt belong to such introducing men into despair and vanity 5. I desire he may be advised that he might become seeing that he may at length acknowledge the friendly Dear heart of JESUS CHRIST which hath manifested it self in our humanity to seek and to save our poor lost Man 6. For this vain frivolous reproach which he venteth against his Brother is no Christian way at all it will not build SION but destroy it if he will be comprehended under the seaventh sounding of Trumpet and be one among the first fruits then he must goe out from all reproachings contention and scorning and seek only the heart of brotherly Love else all is Babel and a Fiction even clamouring and Contending and never coming to the Limit of our Rest in Christ 7. I have a little presented it before him and other Readers of my Writings to consider of it since I see that not only my Opposer but also others for the most part Persons of high Dignity are thus perplexed with this conceit about the Predestination or Election of God to try whether this most difficult errour might be brought out of the Minds of many of them 8. But I am entended to write an Entire Book thereof if I could but perceive that Men would not so spitefully oppose me without knowledge what spirits Child I am this I offer to you as learned and experienced Men to consider of and entreat you to ponder aright whence my apprehension and skill might come 9. For you see and know that I have not learned it much lesse studyed or understood it aforehand as the manner of simple Ideots or Layicks is neither have I sought it or understood any the least part of it but it is given me of the Grace of the Most High in that I have sought his love-Love-Heart to hide my self therein from the Horrible Anger of God and the Hatred or Enmity of the Devill 10. Therefore I exhort and beseech you in the Love of Christ to think of it and rightly hold close to the Holy Scripture of the Spirit and keep it rightly to the proof or Touchstone with a true Christian Mind and then your Eyes will be opened that you will see and know it 11. Though I doe not at all doubt concerning your Person Sir for I look upon you to be a very honest Lover of God and of the Truth and I also hope that my Mind which is so very exceedingly inclined towards you will not deceive me 12. For I stedfastly hope and doe present it in my Prayers to God that Sir the Fair Garland or Crown of Divine Honour in the knowledge of the Wisdome may be set upon you that you might not need to use either Mine or others writings to the knowledge of God but Sir you know in your self as it hath also happened to me out of what spirit I write and use nothing else about it for it is written They shall be all Taught of God and know the Lord I will pour out my Spirit upon all Flesh also your sonnes and your daughters shall Prophesie and your Young Men shall see visions 13. Why will Men reproach then when God powreth out his Spirit upon such a simple Man so that he must write above the Reason of All Men and higher than the Ground of this World is 14. Deare Sir it is done out of Gods Love towards you that you may see the Ground and roote of your School-Contention for many have sought but not at the right Limit or Place whence contention is arisen to them which hath filled the World and hath almost quite destroyed all brotherly Love 15. Therefore God calleth you with a higher voyce that you might yet see whence all Evill and Good Originateth and proceedeth because you should cease from Contention and Strife and most highly acknowledge that which from the Times of this World hath been hitherto hidden and is only manifested or revealed to the Children of the Saints 16. But seeing it is shewed to me how your heart Sir is inclined to wisdome therefore I speak sublimely towards you and do hope you will accept it in true Love and understand it rightly as it is entended I would I could give you halfe the Spirit of my knowledge and then you would need no Writings although I esteeme you wise yet I will once brotherly salute you with this Writing before the rough Winter of Calamity Come which is upon the way 17. If your Honour Love my Writings I pray you to reade them diligently and above all especially to lay them to the Center of All things or Substances and then the Three Principles will be very easie 18. I know and am assured that if you apprehend the Center in the Spirit that you will have such joy in it as excelleth all the Worlds joy for the Noble STONE of the wise Men lyeth therein it giveth certainty in ALL things and releaseth Man from all incumbrance and perplexity in the Strife and Contentions about Religion and openeth to him the highest secret Mystery