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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A67003	A short letter modestly intreating a friends judgement upon Mr. Edwards, his booke he calleth an Anti-apologie, with a large but modest answer thereunto framed, in desire, with such evennesse of hand, and uprightnesse of heart, as that no godly man might be effended at it : and with soule-desire also, that they, who are contrary-minded, might not be offended neither, but instructed.	Woodward, Ezekias, 1590-1675.; Hartlib, Samuel, d. 1662.	1644 (1644)	Wing W3502; ESTC R18279	37,876	40

A SHORT LETTER Modestly intreating a Friends judgement upon Mr Edwards his Booke he calleth an Anti-Apologie With a large but modest Answer thereunto Framed in desire with such evennesse of hand and uprightnesse of heart as that no godly man might be offended at it And with soule-desire also That they who are contrary-minded might not be offended neither but instructed Optimè locutus esset si non in fratres pessimè The man had spoken very well if not against his Brethren very ill Mel. Ep. {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} Chrysost. There is something unholy in His holy ones His Angels he has charged with folly c. Job 4. 18. 1 COR. 4. 5. 1 COR. 11. 31. Judge nothing before the time except your selves that ye may not be judged 1 THES. 5. 21. Prove all things hold fast that which is good LONDON Printed according to Order 1644. Worthy Sir IHave heard of Mr Edwards Anti-Apologeticall Book as I must needs doe for all the City and Parliament rings of it The most of them cry it up and some few cry it downe Truly Sir I could cry too but neither up nor downe For my heart is big with weeping and I could wish my head a fountaine of teares to bewaile the sad effects which are likely to follow upon these differences of Religion which are fallen out amongst Brethren But that I may know also your affections let me intreate you to cast your eyes not carelesly over a few leaves but the whole Booke that we may be instruments by the grace of God of healing those breaches Sir your freedome of judgement hath not deceived me this 16. yeares in other matters of highest concernement nor is it like to doe now since so many gray haires have covered the seate of it Thus beseeching the God of Truth and Peace to assist both your judgement and affections I take my leave remaining alwayes Sir Your many wayes obliged and most affectionate friend to serve you SAM. HARTLIP From my house in Dukesplace in great haste Aug 5. A short Letter modestly intreating a Friends judgement upon Mr Edwards his Booke he calleth an Anti-Apologie With a large but modest answer thereunto I Must begin complaining Alas Sir how doe you disparage your own judgement when you doe hearken after mine But it is a friendly error I must pardon it and more I will grant your earnest request also How can he choose but yeeld to you what can be yeelded who are all for Truth and Peace pursuing it with all your might Now Blessings be upon your head and the head of yours who have laid-out your selfe and all for God He will returne for man will not nay indeed power is wanting though will more he cannot all your labour of love worke of faith patience of hope seven-fold into your bosome Amen But Sir me thinks you and I are Instruments now meerely passive you in the motion to this undertaking I in the undertaking wrought upon both by a power and counsell higher and better then our owne I conceive it so in you by what I heard you say you had concluded upon between your soule and God I conceive the same of my selfe because I never thought of this nay my mind was wholly averse from scribling till I thought of your Letter and then I could thinke of nothing else and was restlesse till I had answered you Surely Sir there was an hand here more then humane a stronger motion on our spirits than selfe can make A bond which is more binding and engaging then the bonds of men are Gods Cause with his Legacy to the world Truth and Peace And now all is engaged body soul spirit judgement also that is little or nothing indeed But He can use it and direct it Who useth the smallest things to great purpose I le waight upon the Lord as He shall communicate unto me I shall give-back unto you even from His own hand For I thinke it is the desire of my soule willingly to offer my selfe with all the powers of soule and body first unto the LORD Indeed I would not have my selfe or them at my owne dispose for all the world and then my judgement unto you But first I shall say something by way of preface Doe not be jealous of your friend now that he will give any the least libert to his pen to asperse persons or their opinions touching the way of Government now in agitation and dispute Or that any word shall reflect upon the Scots whom I honour no people in the world more with my soule And am perswaded they ought so to be honoured for they are come-forth carrying their lives in their hands willing to lay their lives downe for their friends A greater love than this has ●o man Surely here is a love more then humane for it is as strong as death the Lord returne it to their bosome in Spirituals for Temporals are too meane a returne for such Adventurers It is also as far from my thoughts as it is out of my power to asperse their way of Church Governement I think honourably of that also as be-commeth Nor shall you make judgement by what followeth that I am for the Independency as I foole have called it nor for the Presbiterie neither and Governement that way I professe unto you These words are so tossed to and fro by such simple ones as my selfe that I cannot tell what to make of them or which way to take And yet can see the way cleered before me the Church way past all question for there the Scripture is cleere when yet where it speaketh out cleerly at the first sight for Presbyterie me thinks at the second view and that should be as our second thoughts are the wiser it speaketh all for Independency So that I have not understanding enough the Lord be a light and help unto it to tell my selfe for what way I am unlesse for both as they may both lead each to other and meete in one I am perswaded in my heart that so it will be they will accord meete and kisse each other Not that I can thinke the difference to be small about which there is so great difference nor the way of governement easily discernable sith so many quick-sighted men are prying thereinto yet cannot find it out But this is the ground of my perswasion because the seekers after this way doe I hope seeke Him That makes a path in a wildernesse and are fully resolved to continue seeking and in their disquisition here to keepe themselves close-up to the clue of the sacred Scriptures and to shut-out passion which a Noble Schollar of large understanding the Lord fill it with himselfe calls nothing for so much as there is of passion in the Dispute so much there is of nothing to the purpose The very best Ministers in the world are jealous over themselves in this matter and as watchfull They are zealously affected towards Church Governement in a Church

it selfe not a foot Well said the proud man if the mountaine will not come to me I will goe to the mountaine I wish heartily it may be so here but if that cannot be a brother cannot give forth to his brethren his right hand of fellowship yet let them have a place in his heart and then let him keep his station and let his brethren alone in theirs Hitherto I have told you may manner in reading large volumnes Efix upon the Beginning and the End speeding cursorily through the rest dipping here and there which is as much as is sutable with my time and disposition and may suffice whereby to give judgement for he that reades but a part may judge of the whole I meane the whole frame of the Booke and carriage of the businesse I shall not meddle with the doctrines there not with the Aenigma's and hard questions They are not to my purpose besides The cause of Truth shall not suffer in the weaknesse of my patronage I shall undertake him there where Truth shall master us both and blame him for that he will say himselfe is blame-worthy Notwithstanding I shall lightly passe over personall matters but so as they will whether I will or no stick upon him who hath so urged them against his brethren and so extremely marked what might be done amisse yet I shall remit him to the sentence of Scripture concerning these matters also there to stand or fall to his owne Master I dare not judge his intentions neither It is cleare against Master Perkins golden rule so to doe We must deale as tenderly there as with the apple of the eye A rule quite broken to pieces now adaies Truly if I might judge I should judge his intentions to be good * Nor shall I judge his Affections they might be boyled-up to a degree of heat we call zeale And then for that we call passion the fire of that zeale The Lord is judge betwixt him and his Brethren I shall onely touch upon the frame and structure of his Booke for the present And this onely I shall say It renders him a good Schollar but of too quick Invention he had his places and helps in a readinesse and hath found-out all that needed be found-out and an hundred things more And sure he was at cost for it 〈◊〉 hath made it his worke these seven yeares and more by prying into a way he meant not to walke-in and into bosomes of Pastours and Teachers and Disciples too most ungratious towards their gratious Teachers here and beyond seas with whom he meant not to agree but to serve his turne there to know the wayes of the houshold and knowing so much he thought he might befeared There is his Invention he has wandred through those places and found such helps which are not to be found but in his own Topicks Rhetoricks And having gathered his Simples he is as happy for Composition He is most blame-worthy for his Elocution and Action there for what was told him in darknesse that spake he in light And what he should have heard in the eare first that is privately he published as upon the house-tops But what speakes he out so loud that all both neare and further off must heare it as they must a great Bell long a Raising but being up City and Countrey rings of it what sayes he with so clear a voice No more but what wee might know before and the Apologists may confesse That they are men and though walking in a Church-way which should be every mans walke may yet sometime walke as men subject to the like-passions as the Anti-Apologistand we simple ones are subject to Alas Men are men Angels indeed they are by office not by nature That old leavened thing will put forth it selfe in the best and surely they are best who are most sensible thereof And for their writings Hominem olent as one said surely their very treasure may smell of the vessel an earthen vessel and that could not be cleansed with water which teacheth us a great lesson how to think and how to speake of men the very best of them and of their works that which is best or nothing at all I may contribute more to this anon This shall follow now which is so cleare in the Booke we have in hand that the R. Authour hath picked-up all the scatterings of Gods servants made them his gatherings What the servants of the Lord abominate sure and cast-out for refuse this he hath taken into his Booke and makes account of it as of a treasure He hath adorned his booke he thinks with the blotts and blurres such as may be found in the best mans life Alas If a man should set himselfe as he hath done to spie-out not as King Josiah did which is every mans duty what idols of jealousie are set-up in the heart and in the Land but what are or were the carriages of the Mosesses there he might observe miscarriages even in them though the meekest men upon earth So in S. Peter too after that he had made that great profession of that commanding affection Love to his LORD a and appealed to his Lords knowledge therein yet after all this behold a great miscarriage b yea and in S. Paul also What ever that thorne in his flesh was there are too many guessings at it but what ever it was there it had not beene nor had that messenger so buffeted him if he had not beene raised a little too high in his own thoughts And so much and more he sayes of himselfe but no man else besides himselfe Surely there is the same boundary for our words and actions which give a mould to our thoughts and makes them legible the same boundary I say which is set to our thinckings Whatsoever things are true and so forth till wee come to that which should bound our thoughts even touching our brother thinke of these things What things whatsoeverthings are honest just pure lovely of good report If there be any virtue any praise think on these things let these bound your own thoughts yea and your thoughts also touching your brother It is not so cleare in the text but it is according to the practise of all the godly that ever have been or are in the world When for just reasons they were to speake of themselves then they spake the very worst they could rather the most they could to throw downe themselves and exalt God Matthew the publican Paul the persecutour said they of themselves but none other besides themselves And as their words were such and so sutable were their thoughts But when these are to speake of their brethren then you may reade their thoughts in their words Whatsoever things are true honest just pure lovely of good report If there be any vertue any praise they thinke and they speake of those things Jobs and Jeremiahs impatience not a syllable touching that matter you