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A54120 The Christian-Quaker and his divine testimony vindicated by Scripture, reason, and authorities against the injurious attempts that have been lately made by several adversaries, with manifest design to rendor him odiously inconsistent with Christianity and civil society : in II parts. / The first more general by William Penn ; the second more particular by George Whitehead. Penn, William, 1644-1718.; Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723. 1674 (1674) Wing P1266; ESTC R37076 464,302 582

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God's nor Christ's but the Righteousnes of Faith rather bids us return to the Word of Faith that is nigh in the Heart to obey it and do it which Word is both saving and justifying to them that obey it Say not in thy Heart who shall ascend or fly up into Heaven to bring Christ down or who shall descend into the deep to bring Christ again from the dead but the Word is nigh thee c. Rom. 10. And 't is by this ingrafted Word that the true Faith is wrought in the Heart and the true Application Benefit and Confession is made to the Soul of Christ's Sufferings Death and Resurrection and the real Intent blessed End and spiritual Advantage thereof experienced by true Believers who are Obeyers and Doers of the Word and not meer outside Hearers and Talkers Again this man in Contradiction to his excluding Sanctification before and saying that Holiness is not needful to constitute a justifying Righteousness and to his Doctrine for Imperfection and Sin and his justifying Persons condemned in themselves He grants thus far to the Effects of Faith viz. Our Hearts turning to God we dislike our Sins We are sweetly engaged to please God in all things That thus God purifies our Hearts by Faith That thus we are sanctified by Faith which is in Christ. And a lively Faith will work by Love It is needful to testifie our Love to God and Christ and to please and honour God and be a good Example to our Neighbour c. Come on Good Doctrine Well said S. S. And is not Faith needful to Justification And can we be justified without pleasing God or please God without Justification or is not that of a justifying Nature which pleaseth God Pray consider it the Apostles Experience was being justified by Faith they had Peace with God Rom. 5. ●… And whatsoever we ask we receive of him because we keep his Commandment and do those Things that are pleasing in his Sight 1 Joh. 3. 22. But S. S. and his Brethren expect to be accepted and justified because Christ kept the Fathers Commandments or because God obeyed God as his Phrase is and on the same Account to be heard and answered of God while they break his Commands and do those things that are displeasing in his Sight Again John the beloved Disciple said Hereby we know that we are of the Truth and shall assure our Hearts before him for if our Heart condemn us God is greater then our Heart and knoweth all things but if our Heart condemn us not then have we Confidence towards God 1 Joh. 3. 19. 20 21. to the End But S. S. and his Brethren pretend Faith Justification and so Confidence towards God because of Christ's Sufferings only when their Hearts do condemn them from the Evidence of the true Light bearing Witness against them and when they see nothing but Matter of Condemnation in them and indeed this their dead Faith Confidence and false Imputation are of the same Matter The true Apostle said Let us draw near with a true Heart in full Assurance of Faith having our Hearts sprinkled from an evil Conscience and our Bodies washed with pure Water Heb. 10. 22. But our Sin-pleasing Presbyters think to draw near unto God in a justified Condition on the Account of Christ's Sufferings only with such a Faith as doth not purifie the Heart and having both a polluted sinful Heart and a defiled or evil Conscience all their Dayes The Apostle Johns Testimony was Herein is our Love made perfect viz. in our dwelling in God and God in us that we may have Boldness in the Day of Judgment because as he is so are we in this World 1 Joh. 4. 16 17. But the Imperfection and Sin pleading Presbyters think to have Boldness in the Day of Judgment because Christ was perfect and suffered in the Flesh although they remain all their Dayes imperfect and sinful seeing nothing but Matter of Condemnation in themselves and so are not at all like God nor Christ in this Present World They think it will be a Sufficient Plea that Christ was Perfect and Sinless in their stead that God obeyed God and so was like himself how Imperfect and unlike him soever they be on this side the Grave they conceiting themselves Elect Persons Christ said If ye love me keep my Sayings Joh. 14. 23. and John said By this we know that we love the Children of God when we love God and keep his Commandments for this is the Love of God that we keep his Commandments and they are not Grievous 1 Joh. 5. 2. 3. But our Opposers the Presbyters and others will pretend they love God and his Children while they are daily breaking and violating his Commandments and will not believe it possible for any to keep them in this Life though assisted by the Power of Christ. The Apostle Peter testified That even Baptism doth now save us not the putting away of the Filth of the Flesh or outside Washing but the Answer or as some have it Demand of a Good Conscience towards God by the Resurrection of Jesus Christ 1 Pet. 3. 21. But our Opposers Belief and Principle is That 't is only Christ's Obedience Sufferings and Death in the Flesh imputed to us that doth save and Justifie them and on this is only their Plea and Demand and not from his Spirit 's Work of Sanctification or spiritual Baptism nor the Answer or Demand of a Good Conscience towards God they have both shut out Sanctification and Holiness and so excluded Good Conscience from being needful to Justification or to constitute a Justifying Righteousness for they herein hold or at least imply two Righteousnesses of Christ the one Outward to Justifie and the other Inward to Sanctifie the one Imputative and the other Inherent the one Perfect and the other Imperfect And so the Sufferings and Death of Christ in the Flesh however inflicted on him by wicked Hands and Murtherers must be imputed by these men as the Perfect Justifying Righteousness but Christ's own Everlasting Righteousness of Sanctification in the Saints must be deemed Impersect and not accounted unto Justification nor the best Robe though it be the white Linnen the Saints Righteousness whose Garments are washed and made white in the Blood of the Lamb. Whereas Christ's everlasting Righteousness Holiness Love Faith Patience c. wherein he perfectly obeyed the Father and resigned up to his Will both in Doing and Suffering were inherent in him and therein and for that Cause his Obedience and Sacrifice was most acceptable and a sweet smelling Savour to God not with respect to the Murtherous Act of those that crucified and slew him but with respect to that Inherent Holiness everlasting Righteousness and eternal Spirit by which he offered uphimself a Lamb without Blemish and spotless Sacrifice to God and alwayes did those things that pleased him Joh. 8. 29. And of the same everlasting Righteousness must every true Believer partake
Mankind What more excellent Judgment can be given then that men quit their Contentions about Notions and Opinions and betake themselves to the Practice of that which God hath already shewn unto them as spake both the Prophet Micah 6. 8. and the Apostle Paul Rom. 1. 19. And if any thing be revealed to one more then another let the rest judge in the Spirit or be silent till God manifest more to them in order to Right Judgment 'T is good to try all things but we must have something to try them by and what ought that to be but the Spirit that searcheth the Anointing that teaches all things which is Truth it self Here Mankind will live in Love having at least Natural Affections now lost by the B●…rbarity of some of their cruel Religions and a Judgment o●… things will be made not from the Rash Partial Short sighted a d Froward Mind of man but that eternal Light and Spirit that never erred which however disgustful to some Protestants in this Age was no False Doctrine in the Account of John Philpot and Bp. Latimer two great Founders of the Reformation The first in his Answer to the Bishop of Chichester reproving his Confidence about true Faith in Christ saying These Hereticks take upon them to be sure of all things they stand in Let him doubt saith John Philpot of his Faith that listeth God give me alwayes to believe that I am sure of true Faith and Favour in Christ. The second in his Answer to a Knight objecting the Uncertainty of Man in what he calls Truth thus recorded by J. Fox Your Friends deny not but that certain Truths are communicated to us according to Capacity But as to my Presumption and Arrogancy either I am certain or uncertain that it is Truth that I preach if it be Truth why may not I say so if I be uncertain why dare I be so bold as to preach it And if your Friends be Preachers themselves after their Sermon I pray you ask them Whether they be certain and sure they preach the Truth or no and send me word what they say that I may learn to speak after them If they say they be sure you know what follows if they say they be unsure when shall you be sure that have so doubtful and unsure Teachers Let not Protestants for Shame judge us for owning a Doctrine that is confessed to and confirmed by some of the Worthiest of their own Ancestors viz. That an Infallible Judgment in things necessary to Salvation is both possible and requisite and that God communicates it by his Spirit to the Souls of men The Conclusion TO Conclude Immanuel a word suited not only to that Appearance but whole Dispensation imports God nigh to or with men The Tabernacle of God is with men he will dwell in them and walk in them they shall be all taught of me and in Righteousness shall they be established And this admits not of any Book or literal Rule or Judge to come between that in-dwelling Light Life and Wisdom of God and the Soul as its Rule of Faith and Life And because it is the unutterable Goodness of God to People in these latter Dayes as the Sum of Scripture-Prophecy thus to make known himself we are incessant in our Cries unto them that they would turn in their Minds now abroad and taking up their Rest in the Externals of Religion that they may hear his Heavenly Voice and Knocks and let him in and be taught of him to know and do his Will that they may come to be experienced and expert in the School of Christ For never Man spoak and taught as he livingly speaks and teaches in the Consciences of those who diligently hear him and are willing to be taught of him the Knowledge of his Wayes The Priest was Outward but he is now Inward the Law Outward but it is now Inward And he is no more a Jew that is one outward nor that Circumcision which is outward in the Flesh but he is a Jew who is one inwardly and Circumcision is that of the Heart in the Spirit and not in the Letter whose Praise is not of Men but of God Which is so far from lessening the Scriptures of Truth that unless this be man's Rule and Judge in the reading and believing of them he can never either understand them or keep the things therein contain'd aright And indeed as before I have expressed I cannot but say That Man whilst unregenerated setting his Wit and Wisdom to fathom and comprehend the Intention of the Holy Ghost in many of those Writings hath occasioned that Confusion Darkness and perplext Controversie that now so lamentably pesters the World In which State for all the External Imitations of the Ancients in some temporary and visible Parts of Worship I am to tell such from the Spirit of the Lord God of all Truth they will never be accepted The utmost of that literal Knowledge historical Faith and outward Religion is at best but the Old Heavens that are to be wrapped up as a Scroul the Old Wine and Bottle that belong not to the Kingdom and Man's holding true Words in an unregenerated and unrighteous Nature where he may cry Lord Lord but shal●… never enter into the Rest that is Eternal For under such a Faith and Religion Envy Wrath Malice Persecution Pride Passion Worldly-Mindedness c. may and do live yea and are cloaked as with a secure Cover from the Stroak of God's Spirit insomuch as when any are moved of the Lord to decry such fair and hypocritical Shews of Religion they are reputed Rash and Censorious and presently a Plea must he made on this wise Do not we follow the Commands of the Scripture Did not such and such do so and so Never regarding from what Grounds the Performance springs whether it be according to the Rule of the NEW or OLD Creature bu●… abuse and vilifie us for making such Distinctions as if the Prayers Preachings Singings outward Baptizings and Suppings c. of Men in their own Spirits Strength and Will were required and accepted of God for Evangelical Worship Thick Darkness and dangerous Presumption Thus are Men out of the Way concerning both Faith and Practice and the true Rule and Judge of them They make the former to lie in an Assent of the Understanding to such Propositions and in the performing of some visible Parts of Religion in their own Spirits and Wills which is far from the Immanuel-State And the latter to be the Scriptures which is but an Account of those Things which others were ruled to and directed in by the Holy Spirit before they were ever recorded or made Scripture and not another Rule or Judge can so regulate For as the Faith and Experience so the Rule and Judge of that Faith and that Experience must be one God by his Spirit begets Faith God by his Spirit rules Faith and governs the Life of his Children for
that Resurrection Quickening Reviving Changing Translation do not signifie Creation therefore they are not applicable to the Dust of Bodies after Dissolution though both Resurrection and new Creation be to Renewed man Behold I make All things new New Man New Creation New Heavens and New Earth c. but this is a Mystery hid from corrupt Flesh so much contended for by our Present Opposers The rest of his Arguments and Doctrines are mostly very weak and ignorant about this Point yet comprehensively answered in this Book Here follow some Passages out of a Manuscript by W. B. against me with a Reply detecting his Ignorance in consounding the Carnal Body and the Spiritual W. B. INdeed If G. Whitehead hath found out a Body for Christ that is not a Carnal Body which implies only a Fleshly It is such a Body that I never read o●… in the Scriptures I would know what in Scripture is called the Body but the Flesh Now take but away the Flesh and where is the Body Aye but saith G. W. It is a spiritual Body as if a Body of Flesh and a Spiritual could not stand together This is his Great mistake The Apostle could have born his Testimony to this Truth that it is the Body of Flesh that shall be raised spiritual 1 Cor. 15. 14 43. It is sown a natural Body 't is raised spiritual here the Apostle still keeps to the Word It c. Answ. The Non-sense and Contradiction that may be gathered from these Passages is that Christ's Body is a Carnal Spiritual Body as if Carnal and Spiritual were both one or that the Spiritual Body that 's raised or given to the Seed is Carnal Let these Passages be kept in Record as the Baptists Doctrine and Testimony whereas the Apostle's own Testimony proves the Contrary and that W. B. has belyed the Apostle For 't is sown a natural Body it is raised a spiritual and there is a Natural Body and there is a Spiritual Body Here the Apostle clearly makes a Distinction and a Difference between the natural Body and the spiritual He doth not say 't is sown a natural Body and raised a natural or Carnal Body also but a spiritual Body as he also distinguisheth between the Bodies Celestial and the Bodies Terrestrial as those of Sun Moon and Stars differ from those of Men Beasts and Fishes Now you would count him a very blind Philosopher that should make no Difference but say they are all one and consistent or that the Bodies of Sun Moon and Stars were all one with those Earthly Bodies of Men and other Creatures and so blind and such Ignorant Divines are these Baptist's He understands not the Difference between the Natural Body and the Spiritual any more then if a Person should be so ignorant as when he sees the Sun or Moon or Stars To ask if these were not Men or Birds or Beasts or Fishes in the Firmament or on the contrary if he should see Men Beasts and Fishes to ask if these are not the Sun Moon and Stars or rather to conclude that they are because he knows not which are Celestial and which Teriestrial no more then this Baptist doth discern between Bodies natural or carnal and Bodies spiritual But how should he do other or see better while his Mind is so much upon Flesh and so little upon Spirit or so much upon Flesh and Blood which cannot inherit the Kingdom of God and so little upon that spiritual Birth or Seed that doth inherit the Kingdom of Glory and Peace And as for the Baptists Argument That the Apostle still keeps to the Word IT as It is sown a natural Body It is raised a spiritual or God giveth it a Body as it pleaseth him and to every Seed his own Body Reply How evident is it that as the Particle It is used as a Relative to both the natural and spiritual Body 't is a mutable It for that there is a natural Body and there is a spiritual Body which therefore are not the self-same the very Parable or Instance of the Wheat and other Grain may confute his Opinion herein For is it the very self-same Grain of Wheat that is in the Eare that was sown in the Ground Let the Husband-Men judge him herein To him we may say as the Apostle did in the same Case to such O Fool thou sowest not that Body that shall be c. 1 Cor. 15. And now the words It 's sown imply a Seed sown in order to a sprouting and bringing forth Increase Upon which it may be queried if that Body of Man to wit that of Flesh Blood and Bones that 's laid in the Grave or drowned in the Sea or devoured by Fire and some by Beast's c. be the Seed that the Apostle intended to which God giveth a Body as it pleaseth him yea or nay If it be answered in the Affirmative then what Body is it that God giveth to it as it pleaseth him If it be answered in the Negative that overthrows the Baptists Doctrine of the same Flesh Blood and Bones c. which W. B. has not distinguished from a spiritual Body THE RESURRECTION Future Glory and Felicity of the SAINTS Further asserted according to the Holy Scriptures Discovering How far short of the true Vision Sight or Revelation thereof our present Opposers are in their gross Thoughts and Traditional Conjectures Being An Examination of Thomas Danson ' s Arguments and Doctrines about the Resurrection Future State and Glory of Believers in his Synopsis THe Resurrection as plentifully asserted in the Scriptures is not in the least question'd by us however we be unjustly censur'd for denying it Therefore there is no necessity of his Argument to evince that which as he saith the Scripture is so plentiful in asserting of nor doth he evince it according to the Scriptures but varies from them as will appear His Argument If the Bodies that have done Good or Evil must receive their Reward accordingly then the same Bodies that dye must rise again But the Antecedent is true therefore the Consequent Answ. This Argument both Antecedent and Consequent appears neither clear nor grounded upon Truth as it placeth an Eternal Reward upon the Body for its temporal Acts in putting the Body on this account for Man that hath acted therein who must receive the things done in the Body 2 Cor. 5. 10. The meer Terrestrial Body being neither the Subject reteining Perpetual Love or Enmity to God nor is it the Original Cause of Good or Evil Actions therefore not the Object of eternal Love or Wrath but Man in his Spiritual Existence or Being as spiritually and suitably organized as it pleaseth God to receive the things done in his Body according to what he hath done whether it be Good or Evil proper and natural to the Image he bears which the Soul carries along with it out of the Earthly Body or House that turns to Dust But see the Proof of his Antecedent That