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A22060 A proclamation published vnder the name of Iames King of Great Britanny. With a briefe & moderate answere therunto. Whereto are added the penall statutes, made in the same kingdome, against Catholikes. Togeather with a letter which sheweth the said Catholikes piety: and diuers aduertisements also, for better vndersatnding of the whole matter. Translated out of Latin into English; Proclamations. 1610-06-02 England and Wales. Sovereign (1603-1625 : James I); James I, King of England, 1566-1625.; Cresswell, Joseph, 1556-1623, attributed name.; Walpole, Michael, 1570-1624?, attributed name. 1611 (1611) STC 8448; ESTC S119940 92,335 142

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good subiectes hartes from their due obedience both to God and vs. And lastly because the horror and detestation of the Powder Y The Catholikes haue more horrour and detestation against such Actes then those that make all this shew I haue touched before that which in this all other treasons may be obiected which they do impute vnto them that haue as little hand in them as themselues as they know full well here in part bewray imputing to English Catholikes the death of the late King of France wherein all the world knoweth they neyther had nor possibly could haue any hand treason in the mindes of our Parliament bred amongst other thinges that Oath of Z This is a matter mistaken and the Statistes are farwyde that thinke to draw Subiects by violence to their Allegiance and fidelity by force For to my vnderstanding and to any mans else that vvill iudge indifferētly there can be no more direct cause of disloyalty to Kings then to constraine their Subiects to infidelity and inforce them to be disloyal to God the King of Kings and Lord of all Allegiance to be taken by our subiectes so highly impugned by the Pope his followers as we are inforced by our A His Maiesties pen had bene ill imployed and himselfe very ill aduised as by effect is seen if the Book had bene his For it hath bene reproued in all Kingdomes confuted almost in all Languages vvith losse of reputation and note of small learning and lesse discretion in the Author For although the Pamphlet was published in his Maiesties Name yet it is generally held that the Name onely was his verily they who hould this opinion doe him more seruice and honour his Maiesty more then the others that father so seely a worke vpon so wise and learned a Prince as his Maiesty of Great Britanny is knowne to be owne pen to take in hand the mayntenance of our cause for that Oath which howsoeuer odious it was to the Pope yet was it deuised as an Act of great fauour and Clemency towardes so many of our subiects who though blinded with the B Woe be to you saith the Prophet that call euill good and good euill that make darknes light and light darknes Isay 5. 20. superstition of Popery yet carryed a dutyfull hart towardes our obedience For hereby was there a separatiō and distinction made betweene that sort of Papistes and the other pernicious sort that C This is a manifest calumniation and slaunder wherwith malicious people haue possessed his Maiesty depraued his vnderstanding to make him more vntractable in his false religion and more implacable with Catholikes couple togeather that damnable doctrine and detestable practice before mētioned Therfore in consideration that the said Oath serueth to D A pretty deuise when all other faile to draw away money from them But I will foretell you the successe Non gaudebit tertius heres Quia pretium sanguinis est It is the price of bloud and cannot prosper make so true and mercifull distinction between these two sortes of Papistes as is allreadie sayd we cannot but hould it most conuenient for the weale of all our good subiectes and discouerie of bad people that greater care shal be vsed hereafter in the generall ministration of this Oath E And when all should take it what profit would redound to the King verily none at all but rather great harme as already hath bene said and shal be said more at large hereafter to all our subiects then hath beene heretofore vsed And therfore it is our express will and pleasure accordingly we doe heerby straitly charge commaund all and singular our Bishops Iustices of Assise Iustices of Peace and all other our Officers whome it may cōcerne to minister the same to all such persons and in all F This Oath cannot in any case be lawfull for the end which they dō p●etend nor is it a Law that which approueth it But in this as in many other things they abuse euidently the word Law to credit their dealings in these lawlesse practises Neyther can it haue any true conueniency for a thing so violent and vniust cannot be conuenient eyther to assure the safety of his Maiesties person or of his Royall succession nor to appease the disquietnes feare which he may conceaue eyther vpon iust or vniust cause but all quite contrary as hath bene said The selfe sam● comparison houldeth as the Philosopher saith betweene the King and his Subiects the Father and his children the Sheepheard and his flocke Similis est comparatio Arist 8. Ethic. A good and true Prince indeed ought to be able to gouerne his people not onely vprightly but also with loue and courtesy For it is vnfitting that a sheepheard should hate or persecute his flock Arch. de lege Iust But what faith the Poet in this case Qui Sceptra duro saeuus Imperio regit Timet timentes metus in auctorem redit Oed. ac 3. Ille tot Regum parens Caret sepulchro Priamus flamma indiget ardente Troia Sen. in Hecub such cases as by the law they are enabled knowing that the meaning of the law was not onely to authorize thē to do it when they would and to forbeare it at their pleasure but to require it at their handes as a necessary dutie committed to them and imposed vpon thē as persons of chiefe principall trust vnder vs for the good and safety of vs and our estate Giuen at our Pallace of VVhite-hall the second day of Iune in the eight yeare of our Raygne of Great Brytaine France and Ireland A LETTER OF A GENTLE VVOMAN OF QVALITY residing on this side the seas written to her Husband in England exhorting him to constancie in the persecution Translated out of the Latin Copie GOOD Sir I humbly thank you for the care you haue takē in giuing me notice of that which passeth and am right glad to see you so resolute our Lord giue you grace to continue constant vnto the end And seing God hath giuen you light to discerne what doth most import you I beseech you for his loue remember that to go back at any tyme herafter or leaue this holy Resolution for humane respects should be for your greater condemnation And although the loue you beare vnto me and to your children with other respectes of flesh and bloud might cause in you some strife and contradiction yet good Husband do not in any case suffer your feruour to wax cold As for our children they are so well allyed that there is no feare they can want being of the yeares they are all well considered they haue inough left them But if notwithstanding all these hopes should fayle them yet they liue vnder the protection of their heauenly Father and vnder his prouidence which is more to be esteemed then all the treasures of the world As for my selfe or any thing that may concerne me do not afflict your selfe in
all lawfull Superiours whether they be spirituall or temporall to ech of them in that which appertayneth to their charge as to the Substitutes Lieftenants of him to whom all subiection is due And as this is voluntary proceeding of conscience and loue so it causeth concord and good will to all others of the same body without difference many times to such as for personall respects deserue little to be obeyed or loued This is the true root and reason of estate this is the true and only policie to effect vnion this is the only proper method of curing old inueterate soares of discord and the only way to heale effectually those that so long time haue layen festering And howsoeuer at this present they be couered and ouer-healed they be not hoale in the bottome and therefore must be prudently and perfectly healed least with new occasions they breake out againe with greater violence and extremity then euer before And to hasten this breach I cannot imagine how his Maiesty or any for him could deuise a more effectuall or more speedy meanes then he hath taken in hand powling and impouerishing the natiue Englishmen Catholikes to enrich and aduāce strangers and heretikes to whome he giueth their goods and dispossesseth them of their Patrimonyes and Lands which their Ancestors had lawfully enioyed many hundred yeares only because they will not sweare that which they thinke to be false nor goe against their Consciences to the Protestants Churches without any other offence to the King or Common-wealth Who can looke on this be he neuer so great an enemy of Catholike Religiō that will not loath it especially considering that those who suffer these wrongs are the best Subiects most innocent and of more vertuous and exemplary life then any other of the Common-wealth Suppose they were deceaued in their beliefe houlding for true the Religion which all their Ancestors euen from the Apostles time haue belieued for their aduersaries cannot giue instance where when or by whome any poynt of that which they belieue and professe was inuented or brought in since the Apostles tyme notwithstanding their cauill of Ceremonyes and other accidents out of the substance which may be added altered or taken away as tymes and oceasions require without preiudice to the fayth or Religion to which they appertaine But as I say supposing the Catholicks liued in errour and misbeliefe this same errour authorized by so long Prescription as I haue sayd deserueth not punishment but pardon and toleration especially it being as their greatest enemies must needes confesse without any hurt to the Common wealth for none can deny but that the Recusants lyfe and conuersation is of much more edification and good example in all manner of Christian vertue then any of the rest And this and no other thing is the cause that their Aduersaryes finding in them no faults of their owne are forced to accuse them of other mens offences and to calumniate and slaunder them with false imputations as the old Persecutors did the Christians of the primitiue Church and this also is the cause of so vnusuall and improper manner of speaking as may be obserued in these Proclamations and Lawes And they are drawne by necessity to this manner of proceeding forced to charge them with secret crimes for indeed all that passeth in publicke wherof the world may be wytnes is in their fauour And therfore they vrge them what they thinke and not onely that but what they would thinke in tyme to come vpon conditionall cases which are neuer like to be A strange manner of proceeding and not heard of in other places But to this miserable perplexity and suspition men come that will gouerne without God his Truth And if these thinges of themselues cannot but mooue to compassion any true English indifferent hart of whatsoeuer Religion the party be what an ey-sore must it needes be what hart-burning thinke you doth it cause to see withall the spoyle of these innocent subiects turned to mayntaine the pride and superfluities of Strangers some of them making their nestes in the toppes of the Noblest and fruitfullest trees that is planting themselues in the best Houses and Familyes and occupying the chiefest Offices and Roomes of the Common wealth others returning home to their Countrey loaden with the spoile of Catholickes goodes who doubtlesse least of all others feele their owne harms as men best armed with patience and most comforted with the considerations abouesayd and the like to suffer all that cōmeth for Christ But for the rest no doubt but their hartes are filled with indignation and bytternes whatsoeuer Religion they professe and much more those of other Sectes and most of all those that be furthest of from Catholicke Recusancie as men lesse mortified more styrring more ready to be moued to anger disdayne and reuenge howsoeuer they may couer it for a tyme. And this generally out of Nationall passions and affections which no doubt are more vehement and more inflamed where there concurreth also particuler respectes And at this day you shall hardly find any one famylie of worth in England that by one way or other in the roote or in the branches hath not allyance or interest in the cause persecuted The experience of fourty yeares and vpward wherin they haue persecuted the Catholickes in that Kingdome supposing by that way to roote out their Religion is a strong argument amongst many others to conuince their Aduersaries that they hould a wrong course for all the world seeth that by this persecution Catholicks haue increased both in number and zeale with them the meanes that God hath ordained for their preseruation both at home abroad For within the Kingdome there be at this day many more Priestes and Religious men to teach the Truth to such as desire it then were when Queene Elizabeth made the first Capitall Lawes against them And generally Catholickes are more constant and more ready to endure the penalty of the Lawes and the Colledges for the bringing vp of such as God selecteth for the mayntenance of this cause are more in number euery day And as their afflictions continue so their friends increase and the more their vertue is tryed and their cause more knowne the more readines they find and more desire in all good men to help them This experience in truth were there nothing else doth plainly demonstrate that his Maiesty in prudence of Estate though he had no greater Motyues should bethinke himselfe of some other course and vse more proportionable meanes to bring about his Honourable Designments And doubtlesse if his Iudgment and other Naturall Giftes be answerable to the report he will easily see the conuenience by that which hath beene sayd setting passion and bad Counsayle aside For what man is there of any vnderstanding that hauing bene troubled fourty yeares togeather with one and the selfe same infirmity and vsing all that while the same dyet the same Phisitians the same method in
any case for by Gods grace and fauour I shal receaue more comfort in suffering pouerty with you for so iust a cause then in enioying all that we haue hitherto possessed Nay fetting aside the obligation I haue to you and my children I would choose to liue with lesse then the Kings Maiesty must allow vs supposing the most rigorous execution of his law yea rather to loose all then you should admit the least disquietnes or stayn in your cōscience Consider how little this world is to be esteemed for it selfe how vaine vncertaine and troublesome it is and that the greatest part you haue enioyed of it hitherto hath beene spent in satisfying your owne desires and the least in his seruice that gaue you all you haue You must also remember that the goodes you possesse are but lent you for the true Lord and owner is God himselfe who in a trice can take all from you in such sort that they shall not auayle you eyther for your body or for your soule Consider then with your selfe his infinit goodnes in giuing you meanes to enioy an euerlasting inheritance onely for leauing willingly those temporalities wherof in very truth you are but a Steward It is therfore great reason you be thankfull and hould your selfe most happy to haue this occasion and to haue found that pretious Iewell for which the wise Merchant sould all that he had By this meanes you shal be partaker of that blessing which by the supreme Iudge himselfe is promised to such as suffer persecution for Iustice And howsoeuer your Father may vrge and presse you with the ouerthrowing of your house and vndoing of your posteritie you must remember allwayes that the obedience we owe to God must haue the first place and that without this all other vertues loose their value and be vnprofitable Here also the holy Prophets obseruation maketh much to our purpose who affirmeth out of his owne experience of many yeares That he neuer had seene the iust man forsaken nor his posterity come to want And our Sauiour sayth He that for my sake doth not leaue his Father Mother Wyfe Children and whatsoeuer els he hath is not worthy of me Wheras on the other side he promiseth to such as forsake all for his loue an hundred for one in this world and afterwards eternall lyfe Let vs therfore settle our selues in this truth and establish this good purpose in our hartes not to admit for temporall respectes any thing against our conscience which at the dreadfull day of doome must iudge vs. And what would it atravle vs to gaine the whole world with losse of our soules for euer It is not sufficient for our saluation to beleeue with the hart the truth which is taught vs if we do not make publick profession of it before all the world when occasion requireth Not that we ought to hazard our selues without iust cause for without it we may not offer our selues to daunger And therfore if you feare to be vrged with the Oath I thinke it better that you procure some Protection from the King to preuent your aduersaries then to be constrained to refuse it in publicke iudgment and this fauour you may procure by frendship and so free your self from his Maiesties displeasure But if in case it should be thought more for Gods glorie to refuse it publickly in open Sessions I speake plainly my mind I doe wholy submit my self to Gods good pleasure and my iudgment to yours and to others that know better what is best to be done Neyther doe I thinke it conuenient that you depart the Realme without licence least by your absence your enemies take occasion to accuse you of contempt to his Maiesty and his lawes therupon proceed to all the rigour which their malice can deuise against your Religion For this as you see would be of little edification to others and great losse of reputation to your self and of that merit which you might gaine with God taking the other course Wherfore my deare Husband I humbly beseech you dispose your selfe to imbrace the very worst that can befall you in this occasion and offer it all with a cheerfull hart to our Sauiour who loueth the ioyfull giuer And assure your self that you haue nothing to feare for me for I haue set vp my rest and am readie for all that God shall appoint And if it proue affliction I doubt not but by his assistance it shall turne to ioy and contentment considering for whome and for what cause it is suffered That which I desire greatly is that you consider your debtes For indeed if all we haue were our owne let it all goe in Gods name for his loue but we must not leese willingly that which is not ours And therfore I haue sent you an estimate so neere as I can remember of your present estate And if it be your pleasure I will find meanes to come and see you but for this purpose prouide me some house whither I may retyre my selfe securely And with this I haue fulfilled your desire acquainting you with my opinion peraduenture with more wordes then are necessary of purpose to assure you that you need take no care for me nor for any thing that may concerne me nor afflict your selfe with any feare of any trouble losse or persecution that may befall you for the loue of God All the rest I commit to his diuine Prouidence beseeching him to succour and assist vs both with his grace and fauour Amen AN ADVERTISMENT TO THE READER FOR THE BETTER vnderstanding of the former Proclamation and Answere BY that which hath beene sayd the discreet disapassionate Reader will easily discerne two (A) Non est nobis colluctatio aduersus carnem sanguinem sed aduersus Principes ot Potestates tenebrarum Ephes 6. 12. Quis Regem Saul incitauit in Dauidem Quis excitauit Doech Syri nequitiam vt sanctum virum proderet c. Nisi spiritus malus Ambr. in Psalm 118. 2. different spirits encountred in this action The one turbulent and vnquiet disguised by art and with false colours of Estate to discredit the truth The other milde plaine peaceable and quiet disposing men to suffer for truth what and whensoeuer shal be thought necessary And if any man be desirous to know more in particuler the affections operations and effectes that these two opposite spirits worke where they find entrance he may easily trace and find them out by their footesteps in this Proclamation Lawes and Letters The spirit (B) Nos autem non spiritum huius mundi accepimus sed spiritum qui ex Deo est vt sciamus quae à Deo donata sunt nobis 1. Cor. 2. 12. of this world causeth in his followers first an ouer-weening conceipt of themselues and a secret (c) Omnis qui malè agit odit lucem non venit ad lucem vt non arguantur opera eius Ioan. 3. 20. auersion from that soueraygne