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The Bishop of Gallovvay his dikaiologie contayning a iust defence of his former apologie. Against the iniust imputations of Mr. Dauid Hume.
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Cowper, William, 1568-1619.; Hume, David, 1560?-1630?
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vs beleeue that his Maiestie is on your side of this argument And as to my words are they not plaine that vpon condition they had a Christian King professing the Gospell with them they would be loath to discord with him for this matter of externall gouernement though indeede M. Dauid you plainely declare a contrarie disposition in you that ere your opinion of Church-gouernement stand not out you had rather stand at debate vvith a Christian King all your dayes This is the point but after your fashion you flie it Then you conclude THE ADMONENT THus are these causes no causes the sixe not making one sufficient The former which you call falsly-imputed causes remaine vnconuict of falshood vnrefuted for these and euill declined what will follow therefore and what must on the pretending of them I leaue to be considered not listing to diue any further And in the end of your answere to my second reason to this same purpose say you Beleeue me in this I cannot beleeue that euer you were that childe to take on a Bishoprick for these causes if you had not another cause I thinke it should haue laid long in the dunghill before you had put out your finger to take it vp c. THE ANSVVERE FAlse ballance are an abhomination to the Lord but a perfect weight pleases him he that condemneth the iust and absolues the guiltie are both alike abhomination to the Lord. M. Dauid now takes a decree to himselfe but vpon such false premises as makes it a decree of no strength nor value Hee iustifies againe the lying Libeller and imputes to me Gaine and Glorie hee renewes the former-confuted calumnies to shew himselfe 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ac Hyperivertigine laborare Hee willeth me to beleeue him that he beleeues not that such causes moued me He craues to be beleeued and will not beleeue an other But M. Dauid I will not stand with you I beleeue you that you can hardly beleeue any good of me your faith may well be strong but your charitie is colde your loue little if you had any since it beleeues all things you would beleeue me in one thing You tell mee ouer againe that all men whom you know thinke as you thinke I told you also I know you are all men but as honest godly and conscientious as you or they either beleeue mee and know I haue spoken the words of truth Any thing you haue in this Libell to contradict the cause you will finde it by Gods grace answered with reason where you fall to inuectiues against the person and against all reason vsurpe the iudicatorie of my soule conscience and affection I will still appeale to that supreame and onely Iudge of conscience protesting in his presence you haue lied against my soule enforcing vpon it a foule crime of corrupt loue of Gaine and Glorie whereof when I haue examined my selfe more then tenne times I finde mine heart free so farre as in regard of humane infirmitie a heart may be and the true causes mouing mee are declared in my former Apologie But to conclude this point vvith you by your fruits you haue declared what you are No man gathers Grapes of thornes nor Figges of thistles your words void of loue your raylings full of spight your iudging without warrant your pert affirming without truth witnesses cleare enough though you were the best of your band you are but a Brier no Figge-tree no Vine-tree in the Lords Vineyard if in these you continue And you know that Briers and pricking Thistles are the curse of the earth God make you better THE ADMONENT ALway this same weakenesse of reason to say no further bewrayes the selfe euery where through the whole body of this Apologie and among the rest most euidently in that point that you take libertie to make your selfe your owne Antagonist for we know none other THE ANSVVERE IN the remanent Sections of this Inuectiue we haue lesse order I finde none but more falshood manifest for now Mr. Dauid casts himselfe loose reeling vp and downe at his pleasure beating the ayre fighting against his owne shadow or else carping at my words and misconstruing them to his owne minde He complaines I make my selfe mine owne Antagonist albeit the contrarie be euident my first aduersarie was a lying Libeller I gaue my defences according to his accusations and now Mr. Dauid comes in to make all good that he hath said and hee will be my partie no way prouoked there-vnto by mee nor vrged by any necessitie except that Erostratus some way must be renowned He will be a busie-bodie Fedem in alieno choro ponere medling with other mens matters Not vnlike one that takes a Dogge by the eare so is he that meddles with strife that belongs not to him but I hope his owne wickednesse shall reproue him Hee entreates me not to reiect his admonitorie but to read it to pleasure him I haue wearied my selfe intermitting my better studies now these fortie dayes for reading and refuting of it this seauen yeares I spent not so much time with so little vantage to my selfe except that it may doe good vnto others I haue beene seeking fruit in horto Tantali for in all his admonitorie I cannot finde a line to make a man either more godly or more learned And this part of it where-vnto now wee enter containes no other but fierie inâ—ectiues in personam needlesse repetitions idle discourses for matter many of them false all of them fectlesse for order nothing else but a confused Chaos and in a word a building of small stickes standing vpon rotten posts In the examination whereof since he prouokes me to it I will not insist as in the former onely in the by-going will strike the post and let the building fall Hee first complaines that I haue not clearely enough declared the change of my minde concerning Church-gouernement what motiues what reasons wherefore and where-vnto I haue changed And about this it would wearie any man to read how he repeates and multiplies words Sect. 14. 15. 17. 20. An answere to them all see out of this Treatise In your 16. Section you lay downe a ground as graunted by mee vvhich I neuer gaue you that I thought our Church-gouernement 1. Anarchie 2. Confusion 3. Not allowed by God 4. Disallowed by God And heere you haue heaped vp a heape of words vpon a dreame and false conception of your owne braine you haue begotten it and you would father it vpon me the ground being false that cannot stand which you haue built vpon it I know there was order in our Church but such as needed helpe to hold out carnall diuision the mother of confusion the beginnings whereof in many parts were more then euident but then say you THE ADMONENT VVHere was the dutie of a Preacher your courage your boldnesse why cried you not an Alarum against such an enemie THE ANSVVERE TRuly Mr. Dauid there were so many false Alarums cried
for my part I could agree with Nazianzen to be cast ouer boord as Ionas was depriued of all preferment in the Church if this might stay the storme of strife which as may be seene by your words contention for the greatest gifts hath raised in it Though in this also I rather thinke you speake out of your owne conceit not out of sound iudgement as wherein others will allow you But howeuer it be till a better reformation come let mee tell you you haue here also spoken what you should not Neuer one of you haue done any good say you What if I should say you are in the wrong to some of them requiring fruit ere euer the tree be fastned to others very malicious that cannot see fruit euen where it abounds hauing still an eye to see euill not to see good Mr. Dauid tell mee who planted the Churches of Annandail and other countries in the South border who made the Gospell to be preached there where it was not heard in our daies nor in the daies of our Fathers was it any Presbyterie I doubt not they would but could not you will finde it was the diligence and fidelitie of a Bishop I may say further that in sundrie parts of the high Land the name of Christ is brought in reuerence by the care of Bishops where it was not knowne before in such bounds as haue not beene visited by any Superintendent Bishop Commissioner nor Presbiterie before this I could tell you of a meane Bishop who hath made a constant prouision of three thousand Markes by yeere to his Ministers more then their former stipends and this care of the continuance of the Gospell after vs you cannot denie to be a good action Besides that many professed enemies haue rendred themselues professed friends by the care and diligence of such as vnder God and his Maiestie haue speciall charge in the Church None of the rest want their owne witnesses some more some lesse wherein I could be particular but before we with the Pharises would proclaime by Trumpet our good deedes wee will rather keepe silence contented to let this blast of yours blow by vs also yet the winde encreaseth and blustereth out these mightie blasts which follow THE ADMONENT AND is any man so impudent as to say that his Maiesties good course against Papists is deerer to you then to them better fauoured by you or are you more earnest in it Doe any of you dare any of you doe more for it or for his Maiestie in it Alas how poore a power is that of Bishops in that case but that it is vnderpropped by them THE ANSVVERE SEeing by your owne confession Bishops are vnderpropped by Preachers why come you to vndermine them whom Preachers vnderprop vnlesse you be minded to fight against them both It is true Bishops are the stronger in that they haue worthie Preachers assistors vnto them in the combat against the enemie and they in like manner finde themselues more strengthened by authoritie of Bishops and it is best when they goe ioyntly together to doe the worke of God why then complaine you hereafter of an vniting or revniting to be made betweene them and rage at a mixture as you call it your selfe betweene Bishops and their brethren of the Ministrie and here and euery where throughout this Eristic Libell of yours doe what you can to stirre vp the one against the other and set them by the eares together for what language is this of yours Doe you dare you Know you what spirit leadeth you to speake so if you know not looke to your selfe in this glasse And there came out a man whose height was sixe cubits and an hand bredth and hee had an helmet of brasse on his head and a Brigandine vpon him which weighed fiue thousand Shekels of brasse and hee had bootes of brasse and a shield of brasse and a speare like a weauers beame and hee stood and cryed Doe you dare you Is any of you able to fight against me And so also railed Rabsache Are you able to ride the horses of my Master Thus did these Infidels in their pride despise the people of God and vilifie them sore And with no lesse carnall confidence doth this great Giant come out against vs as if with his threatning voyce of Doe dare yee hee would afray vs all But Rabsache stay your railing glorious Goliah get you backe againe to your Tent lay downe your Speare and waightie Brigandine put off your carnall armour of vaine windie and bragging words and vnder pretence of loue to some of Israels armie reproach not the rest Through grace we both doe and dare doe to the glorie of our God when you if you continue in this Pharâ—saicall boasting will proue but a phantasticall phraser Take you therefore in time to a more wise and sober minde or doubtlesse some stone out of the Riuer of God will beate out your braines And this for your intended confutation of my first reason in effect no other but a digression from it I absolued it in sixe lines and you haue heaped vp a multitude of words Commendations Comparisons impertinent to the purpose and no way touching my reason but you goe on in your owne conceit as followeth THE ADMONENT HAd you said you had laid downe a Bishopricke for his Maiesties comfort and obedience you had said something but to take it on for that end is a pretended excuse which no man will approue for who will not take it on that thinkes it lawfull THE ANSVVERE MAster Dauid if for obedience of a Christian King you thinke it good a man should lay downe a Bishopricke why thinke you it euill that for his obedience he should accept it Beleeue me if the Church shall thinke it expedient and his Maiestie shall declare it to be his pleasure and in this require a proofe of mine obedience I shall doe the one more speedily more willingly then euer I did the other not for any vnlawfulnesse or misliking of it but for the loue I haue to a more quiet life my selfe And thinke you Mr. Dauid that no man hath or doth accept a Bishopricke being rather willing to want it So you speake out of your carnall minde of things which yee know not measuring other men with your spanne but I am sure the minde of an honest Bishop or Pastor is a more high and diuine thing then that you G. are able to iudge it How many worthy men of the Primitiue Church notwithstanding that they thought the office lawfull yet haue fled it and denyed it till they haue beene forced by the Church to accept it yea some haue dismembred themselues that they might eschew it I know their preposterous zeale is not commendable yet good enough to improue you that euery one who alloweth a Bishoprie is not euer willing to accept it But you thinke these men are not now adaies and seeing it is so that such as like it will make no scruple to