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A54155 Judas and the Jews combined against Christ and his followers being a re-joynder to the late nameless reply, called, Tyranny and hypocrisie detected, made against a book, entituled The spirit of Alexander the Coppersmith rebuked, &c. which was an answer to a pamphlet, called, The spirit of the hat, in which truth is cleared from scandals, and the Church of Christ, in her faith, doctrine, and just power and authority in discipline is clearly and fully vindicated against the malicious endeavours of a confederacy of some envious professors and vagabond, apostate Quakers / by ... William Penn ; to which are added several testimonies of persons concern'd. Penn, William, 1644-1718. 1673 (1673) Wing P1307; ESTC R23117 100,153 131

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1st The Presb. Indep And Anab. believe that the Father the Son and the Spirit though three Names denoting three Personalities or Subsistences are One Infinite Eternal and Omnip●●●t God At which the modern Socinian cryes Blasphemy and Idolatry For sayes he Christ is but purely a Man and the Spirit but a Creature Now come in these Apostates against the Presb. Indep Anabapt We deny your Personalities and Subsistences And to the Socinians We own Christ and the Spirit to be of one Nature and Being with God the Father And it is Blasphemy to say that Christ and the Spirit are Creatures Here 's the first Discord or Jumble between our Adversaries Secondly The Presbyter Indep Anab. and these Apostates assert God to be a Spirit At which these Socinianiz'd Followers of John Bidle say There 's no such thing but with J. Reeve and L. Muggleton That he has a Body like to a Man and inhabits a certain Place Thirdly The Presb. Indep and Anab. concerned chiefly against us hold That God from all Eternity elected a certain Number to Salvation and reprobated the residue to eternal Damnation without respect to any Condition of Obedience or Disobedience thereby to illustrate his own Soveraignity and Glory which Principle these Apostates have so much Understanding yet left as to repute pernicious and damnable The like do some of these Socinians we have to do with others of them having wheel'd off a few years since to the Geneva Predestinarian side Fourthly The Presb. Indep and Anab. believe That by Christ's Life and Sufferings wholely without God's Justice was Satisfied for Sins and Justification compleatly wrought for the Elect not only by Forgiving Sins past but reputing them really Just and Righteous whilst actually Sinful which kind of Doctrine these Apostates deny as also doth the Socinian affirming That God needed no such rigid Satisfaction that this is not to make him Righteous but Revengeful and that Christ cannot so properly be said to be the Cause as the Effect of the Father's Love For God so loved the World that he gave his only begotten Son c. And though such are forgiven who truly Repent and that Remission was sealed by Christ's Blood as a Sacrifice yet Men are not made really Righteous within by any Imputation from another's Righteousness without while they are really Unrighteous within This is the 4th Contradiction Fiftly Presb. Indep and Anab. believe Christ to have now in Heaven an Human Body or one of Flesh Blood and Bones The Socinian and these Apostates say he hath no such Body but that which he hath is more Spiritual and glorified 6ly The Presb. Indep Anabapt and these Apostates affirm the Immortality of the Soul The Socinians deny it 7thly The Presb. Indep Anab. and Socinian deny the Light that shines within to be Christ in his Spiritual Appearance These Apostates though erred from it yet affirm it to be such 8thly The Presb. Indep Anab. deny that it can lead Men that obey it unto Salvation The Socinian with these Apostates affirm that it is able to lead such as follow it to Eternal Life 9ly The Presb. Indep Anab. and Socinian deny the Spirit to be poured out in these as former Ages or that Men ought to wait for the Motions of it to Preach Pray or Praise God These Apostates in words confess to maintain the contrary 10ly The Presb. Indep Anab. and Socinian affirm That the Scriptures are the only standing Rule to measure and try Doctrines and Spirits by under the Gospel These Apostates believe no such thing 11ly The Presb. Indep Anab. and Socinians disown the Practice of Keeping on the Hat in time of publick Prayer These Apostates call the Pulling of it off a Tradition of Men a Romish Tradition c. Yet Reader for our seasonable and due proceeding against them as Innovators upon the Church of Christ and Disturbers of our Peace by this new unprofitable and irreverent Practice denying them in their persistence and rejecting their Motions as not coming from the Spirit of God are we furiously fallen upon by some of each of those fore-mentioned Parties who as Men forgetting their own Essential Differences and that Persecution they have followed one another with for years like the ancient Scribes Sadducees and Pharisees unanimously endeavour our Disgrace Overthrow in the World as if they were all of one Faith in Doctrine who scarcely in any two most weighty Points hit which shews that Men under divers fundamental Differences may be acted by one and the same Spirit of Envy and Bitterness against the Truth and them that live therein What else can I call that which has given these Apostates that place in their Hearts that while Faithful hated them as they still do us who Judas-like have run away from us to inform our Enemies which way they may take us at an Advantage These Men they hug commend and vindicate at so high a rate as if they were the only great Pilgrims on Earth for Righteousness as much as they differ and we a Crew of Tyrants and Hypocrites Their Innovation must be called Gospel-Liberty but our Religious-Government Tyranny They justifie the Motions of these Apostates and condemn Us for refusing them whom themselves both deny Motions and the Way to know them They put me in mind of the Jews of old who were seldom wanting in the Promotion of the Christians Sufferings by the Heathen nay they were glad and improved the least Occasion to set the Infidels upon their backs alwayes the Jew and Heathen said Amen to the Destruction of the Christians yea that very thing for which the Jew in his time suffered from the Heathen to wit That they worshipped an Ass's Head was after abusively made the Reproach of Christians both by Jew and Heathen What others have we received from the Separatists of this Age who make us to inherit that sort of Suffering which they once thought Ungodly in their Adversaries How welcome was a Renegado Christian to the Heathen or a Backslider to the Jew How cheery were they of such an one's Intelligence and how apt to aggravate it to the Wrong of Christianity But if that was nevertheless True because of the Unfaithfulness and Treachery of its Professors neither is our Way to be concluded False nor our Society Criminal because a few stragling Renegadoes have in their Discontents furnisht some common Enemies with a broken imperfect Account of our Church-Proceedings But as this will turn little to their Credit with Wise and Just Men so have we Confidence in God that having brought us through many Difficulties he will continue to preserve us through the Peril of False Brethren and all other Tribulations which do and will but work a far more exceeding Weight of Glory yea of that Glory which was with the Father before the World began and in the Possession of which the now despised Flock of God shall rest with him in that World which never had Beginning and is without End William Penn. THE END ERRATA READER THou art still desired to continue thy Kindness in Correcting such Faults as have through Speed of Work escaped the Press whether they be Words Letters Points or Parenthesis some of the most Considerable are here collected Page Line Error Corrected 4 17 that blot out 9 15 shewn shown 19 time blot out 28 time blot out 33 head hear 18 24 those these 21 15 entitle entitling 25 20 a and 26 12 the Hat the Spirit of the Hat 33 8 Introductoction Introduction 37 Godliness Godliness undeservedly 34 37 an on 35 1 the these 36 21 of in 38 6 and Indep Independents 9 God given God hath given 37 had hath 49 21 ever never 54 14 were was 29 that both that the Intent of both 57 36 Cowardness Cowardize 59 26 upon upon it 62 17 as blot out 71 3 a Paper part of a Paper pag. 4 5. 1 Joh 2.20.27 Mat. 7.15 and 24.4 Joh. 10. 2 Tim. 4.14 15 16. Math. 18.17 Prov. 30.12 Mat. 6.22 Spir. of the Hat p. 10. Tyran Detect p. 5 23 24 25. Spir. of the Hat pag. 13 14. How came this Letter into this Socinian's hand Doth not this prove a Cabal and that Quondam Quakers now Apostates are their Spies was this my Reward for a loving and curteous Letter which kindly invited him to my House for further Satisfaction Treacherous Person to give it up into proclaimed Enemies Hands such Baseness is like an Apostate and not to grapple with one part of its Strength so disingenuous an Adversary Tyr. Hyp. Detect p. 9 60 61 62. * as Dr. Gell. and a certain Person of worldly Quality said That had not the Quakers come the Ranters had over-run the Nation Ibid. p. 24 p. 14 15. pag. 16.17 pag. 51. pag. 50. pag. 19. p. 19 20 21 29. * Blood Blood thou seekest O Envious Man pag. 29. * But is not this to render us Obnoxious to the Government I abhor that Practice But Base Self-Ended Spirits are to be humbled and not think themselves fit to cry down other Peoples Religion that have by Treachery Persecution and Falseness too much reproacht all Religion Let tehm leave Scribling Snarling with their Writings Repent p. 29 30 31 32. p. 52 53. p. 11. p. 13. pag. 43. See Plain Dealing pag. 7. pag. 48 58 59. pag. 55. pag. 56. Rev. 21.27 2 Thes 2.12 2 Thes 1.8 * Spir. Hat Tyran Hyp. Detect
is able to keep us and preserve us unto his Heavenly Kingdom to whom be Everlasting Glory and Dominion Amen Now The Just shall live by Faith but if any Man draw back my Soul shall have no Pleasure in him Hebr. 10.38 And because Iniquity shall abound the Love of many shall wax cold But he that shall endure unto the End the same shall be saved Matth. 24.12 13. And THIS GOSPEL of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the World for a Witness unto all Nations and then shall the End come Verse 14. Several Testimonies Of Persons Reflected upon in the Pamphlet before answered added in Truth 's and their own Defence Thomas Brigges 's Testimony WHereas in page 22. thou or ye say The poor Man was transported into such an Angry Zeal that I told the Opposers It was of the Lord and they Opposed the Mind of the Lord But the Man was so far say thou or ye from knowing the Mind of the Lord in that Matter that he did not know who the Persons were of whom he spake Ans The Mind of the Lord I do know who am in the Truth and walk in it and the Testimony that I had to bear for the Truth and God's Power which thou art out of in which I did then bear testimony in the Blessed Power and Presence of God that I felt in that Meeting That that Marriage was to be permitted among Friends and it was permitted among Friends and accomplish'd And whereas thou or ye say The poor Man was transported into such an Angry Zeal that he knew not who the Persons were of whom he spake Ans I was not Transported out of Truth but in the Truth but thou art Transported out of Truth into a Lye and into the Enmity and into Cain's Way and into Core's Way and of thy Father the Devil who is the Father of Lyes For I have known Elizabeth Bayly this Nine or Ten Years as she can witness and the Man of lesser years and I have no Shame upon me of this Matter but Shame will come upon thee or ye whatever ye be that are gone from the Truth and turned from the Truth and Power of God and the Truth and Power of God in which I live is over all False-Accusers and Lyars and will be your Condemnation who are found in a Lye and False Accusation who hide your Names in the Dark This Testimony I do bear against all Lyars My Name is Thomas Brigges John Whitehead 's Testimony WHereas the Author of the aforesaid Pamphlet doth charge that Faithful Servant of God G. F. with the Opening and Altering a Letter written by me against my Consent I declare That both he and his Author have Malitiously Slandered G. F. in that Case for I ordered W. Kerby by a Letter wherein that Letter was Inclosed and UNSEALED to shew it to George Fox and the rest of the Brethren in Town that he or they might dispose of it as they saw a Service for Truth And it was written as a Testimony against that Spirit which would have brought in the Wearing of the Hat in Prayer and not to Justifie that Unheard of Practice in the Church for I ever Condemned it in my Heart and bore my Testimony against it knowing the Spirit of the Lord did not lead into it though I had a Tenderness to those who intended well and had their Simplicity betrayed by the subtil Workings of that Spirit of Error which I witnessed against and Laboured not in Vain to pluck them as Brands out of the Fire of Contention that with the Light of Christ they might see whither they were going and several did see the Error of their Way and Returned And if any have been so bad as to Mis-apply my Words and Harden their own Hearts through my Tenderness the Hurt will be their own and I shall be Clear in the Day of God though now I am Evilly Requited by those wh● to their own Hurt give and receive Information agaist me as if I Acted or Lived Wantonly like those which said Come let us Smite him with the Tongue Report and we will Report it But my Innocency in that Case without further Defence is my sufficient Refuge from the Slanderous Tongues of these Ungodly Men And through the Grace of God whereby I am taught Sobriety and Godliness in this World I can and do say The Lord forgive them John Whitehead Isaac Penington 's Testimony A brief Account concerning the Queries relating to Keeping on the Hat in time of publick Prayer mention'd in a Book called Tyranny and Hypocrisie Detected pag. 61. AFter it pleased the Lord to give me a Sense of his pretious Truth in the Inward Parts and to turn my Mind thereto I met with great Opposition both Inward and Outward and how hard and long my Travel was God only fully knoweth Every day the Lord visited me and the Enemy was daily tempting me and I felt the Bitterness of his Temptations and was often sore wounded through my not understanding the Appearances of the Lord and through Unbelief God knoweth I did earnestly desire to know the Motions of God's Spirit from the contrary Movings and Stirrings of the Enemy of my Soul who moved in the Reasoning Wisdom out of the True and pure Simplicity but was many times filled with Doubts and Fears till the Season of the Service was over and the Opportunity of keeping out the Enemy was lost When the Business of the HAT fell out I being acquainted with several of them and looking upon them as tender to the Lord and that they did scruple it only in Conscience to him was perswaded in my heart they were to be born with and thought the positive Testimony against it in others too severe and that a thing of that Nature was not to be contended about but every one left to their Liberty yea and somewhat farther did I go in the Sense of my Heart as if possibly the Lord might require such a thing of them In this Frame of Spirit did I give forth those Queries not at all intending the Lord knows to strength●n that Practice thereby but that no tender thing might be hurt but the Unity of Life kept unviolabe notwithstanding such an Outward Difference But at that time I did not discern that the thing came from the Enemy nor was I sensible that the Ministers of the Truth and such as stood in God's Light and Authority and saw the thing coming from the Enemy with the Evil Hurt and Dangerous Consequences of it to many yea and the Grieving the Church of God I say I did not then see and seriously consider that they were Watchmen appointed by God and had Discerning given them for the Good of the Body and that by those Queries I did weaken the Testimony of God's Spirit through them as to others and give Strength thereby to that Spirit which had prepared and was drawing this Snare over many So soon as ever the Lord shewed me
World even as I am not of the World Do you call this Blasphemy Then why do you thus seek after my Life and publish Books to set the Magistrates and Ignorant upon me but I will stand to my Tesitmony of my Lord and Saviours Words though you call his Words Blasphemy it is which I desire all People to read and see whether the Spirit of Christ be the Guide of these Men's Actions or the Spirit of Envy for they that have not the Spirit of Christ are none of his but the Spirit of Christ Jesus and of the Lamb which is in G. F. and the Holy Brethren the Heirs of Eternal Life will fall heavy upon these Men yea this Stone which they reject and set at naught will grind them to Powder Mat. 21.44 And farther Christ faith in the same Chapter I pray not that thou shouldst take them out of the World but that thou wouldst keep them from the Evil Jo. 17. and mark J. P. and Baptists and the Spirit of the Hat Hyproscrise Tyranny detect who would tyranize over Christ's Testimony concerning his Saints and Followers then and now as your Fore-Fathers did In the 16th Verse Christ saith They are not of the World even as I am not of the World c. which I keep the Testimony of Jesus and know the Truth that he speaks and do not give Titles to none of his Saints to G. F. nor none beyond what Christ hath spoken and therefore be ashamed who profess your selves Christians call Christ's Words Blasphemy And farther Christ sayes That they all may be one as thou Father art in me I in thee that they may be all one in us And the Glory which thou gavest me I have given them that they may be one as thou Father and I am one I in them and thou in me that they may be perfect in One. And moreover John saith in his 1. Epistle Chap. 4. Ye are of God little Children and have overcome because Greater is he that is in you then he that is in the World They are of the World therefore the World heareth them We are of God he that knoweth and heareth God heareth us he that is not of God heareth not us hereby know we the Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Error Beloved let us love one another for Love is of God and every one that loveth is born of God and knoweth God and he that loveth not knoweth not God for God is Love And it is very like John the Divine had such Spirits as L. Muggleton J. Pennyman and the Baptists and other to deal withal as I have now And Christ my Lord saith to his Saints and Apostles If the World hate you you know it hated me before it hated you If you were of the World the World would love its own but because ye are not of the World but I have chosen you out of the World therefore the World hates you Jo. 15. Remember the Words that I said unto you The Servant is not greater then his Lord Mat. 40.24 but Christ saith Every one that is Perfect shall be as his Master Luke 6.40 If they persecute me they will also persecute you if they kept not my sayings they will not keep yours Here you may see how that you are not the Keepers of Christ's Sayings but the Persecutors of them that do Ye are my Friends saith Christ if you do what I command c. and saith Christ henceforth I call you not Servants but my Friends for the Servant knoweth not what the Lord doth but I have called you Friends c. Jo. 15.14 You have chosen me but I have chosen you and have ordained you c. And again you say in your Tyranny and Hypocrisie detected that I should say Blessed be the Man that came out of the North Blessed be the Womb that bare him the Paps that gave him suck As to the Former Words I might speak them but the Latter Words once applyed to Christ I do not remember I spake them But herein ye shew your Malice for had a Cursing Man like Muggleton come out of the North such a one would have fitted you J. Pennyman Baptists but Blessed be God I can say He is Blest for God hath Blest him And I can say He is Blest though you do speak Evil with Muggleton against him and others Curse them whom God hath blest and Christ doth bless his People Mat. 5. Glory to the Lord and you cannot curse that which God hath blest and Christ and the Apostles say Bless Curse not and you are offended for my Obeying Christ's and the Apostles Command manifesting What Spirit you are of And was it not Christ which Saul persecuted and thou you Saul like persecute him now yea that true Christ by whom the World was made in his Saints and Holy Ones under a Pretence of following the Lord faithfully but it is manifest that it is the Worlds God you have followed out of whose Mouth comes forth such Envy and Malice But it had been better for thee John Pennyman and thy Confederates that a Milstone had been hanged about thine and their Neks Luk. 17.2 then to have lifted up Tongue or Pen against God's Truth People who art in Muggleton's Spirit speaking against the Truth who art like an old Apostate twice dead pluct up by the Roots if so then how canst thou grow but art gone out amongst the Dogs Vomiting Biting and Devouring And J. Pennyman thou boasts in some of thy Papers of speaking the Word of the Lord suppose it were so Balaam had the Word of the Lord and after was cut off And was not Judas and Apostle Partaker of the Ministry And art not thou turned a Judas and now seekst to betray the Innocent yea to Death if thou couldst according to the Sayings of our Lord Jesus Christ A Brother shall betray a Brother to Death Mat. 10.21 as thou hast done as much as in thee lies like a False Brother in sending thy Papers to Barbodoes where the Baptists and Professors running up and down with them to the Justices of Peace who would have tryed me for my Life Blood-thirsty Men And one Justice of the Peace said that if S Eccles were not hanged he would be hanged for him their Rage was so high against me by Reason of thy Pamphlets but I stayed at the Bridg Town where the Court sat waiting looking every day to be called to my Tryal but the Court broke up and I was not called nor medled withall in the least so the Blood-thirsty Baptists and others their Consederates J. Pennyman's Correspondents mist their Ends. Though the Baptists themselves did confess to the same things here which thou and the Baptists call Blasphemy now yet it is no marvel for Christ our Lord was called a Blasphemer who said that which I testified to in Jo. 17. And as for all J. Pennyman's unsavory Speeches in his Abusive Pamphlets and