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A04901 A confutation of monstrous and horrible heresies, taught by H.N. and embraced of a number, who call themselues the Familie of Loue by I. Knewstub. Seene and allowed, according to the Queenes Maiesties iniunctions. Knewstubs, John, 1544-1624. 1579 (1579) STC 15040; ESTC S108097 192,800 286

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he take something for their standing other benefit he hath none by them This true essence and being of God which H. N calleth his loue is not according to his doctrine any thing that the Almightie hath proper and peculiar vnto himselfe in that he is God but that which all the faythfull are possessed of and that not in some little measure but so as there dwel liue or rule no other thing in all there spirite thoughtes mind and soule but alone this true godhead with his louely being of the vpright loue For these are his owne words in his first exhortation Chap. 15. and Section 26. The true freedome verily is this that the mā through the ministratiō of the gracious word is wholy released purged or purified frō all wicked nature which hath raigned ouer him that there dwel liue nor rule any other thing in him namely in al his spirit thoughts mind soule but alone the true godhed with his louely being of the vpright loue yea to be so wholy replenished with all vertues of God that there flow nothing in him but the spirituall heauenly and liuing waters And because H.N. his doctrine tendeth to establish a kinde of loue which in his opinion is the true beeing diuinitie and deitie of God therefore he calleth also his counsell and instruction this true being For thus he speaketh in his first exhortation Chapiter 12. Section 54. If yee stand minded to feare the Lorde to bee obedient to his lawe that passeth foorth presently out of the true Sion his word that passeth forth presently out of the heauēly Ierusalem giue ouer your selues after my counsaile and instruction according to it al as the Lord hath reuealed the true being vnto me out of Sion and Ierusalem wholy and altogither so will I then in like maner euen out of the heartie loue stand seruiseable so much as I may in the Lorde vnto you dayly and at all times thervnto to the end you should feare the highest God and might learne to knowe his righteousnesse For his righteousnesse is the loue the true being and the euerlasting life Speaking as you heare of his doctrine and exhorting them to the imbracing thereof hee calleth it the true being when hee sayeth according as the Lorde hath reuealed the true being vnto mee And in the ende he concludeth that the righteousnesse which he teacheth is the loue the true beeing and the euerlasting life So that the Deitie and beeing which H. N. giueth vnto GOD is no other then that which mortall men attaine vnto For the righteousnesse which they perfourme by his doctrine is as he sayeth the loue the true being and euerlasting life And forasmuch as this true being is no other thing with him then that loue which by his doctrine manie are made partakers off therefore in the beginning of his Euangelie H.N. affirmeth himselfe to be godded with God in the spirite of his loue and likewise sayeth that he was the true light of the perfect being And in his first exhortation Chapter 17. Section 5. The Childe confesseth of the Father and eldest Elder that the moste highest hath reuealed the possession of his moste excellent Maiestie in him and that with the same being of the perfect Godhead he hath made a godly dwelling with him This doctrine doeth vtterly ouerthrow the true diuinitie deitie of God it robbeth him of his true essence and beeing and couereth him with no other essence nature or being then is found in man it setteth the creator among the creatures and it matcheth the the creature with the creator The Lord if it be his good wil open their eyes that they may see it giue them harts that may blush and be ashamed of such blasphemie that e●that they may receiued in true repentance or otherwise if they will still harden their hearts that wee may see them laid downe in their confusion and couered with their owne shame H.N. In which name of the father wee are plucked Section 3 thorowe the seruice of his holie and gratious word vnder the obedience of the law of the Lorde of the beliefe of Iesu Christ and of the loue of the holie ghost by the father to the loue of his onely sonne Iesu or Sauiour the very like beinge or substaunce of his Godhed and euen so baptised or washed in the same name of the father Which plucking of the father and baptising in Section 4 the fathers name hath the foregoing by vs in the administration of the holie word vnder the obedience of the loue with the Law or ordinaunce of the Lorde And with his correction or discipline wherewithall we euen so as in an enmitie against the sinne beecome preuented and infourmed to an incorporating in the godlie righteousnesse For euen so in the becomming baptised in the name Section 5 of the father doth the Lord chastise or nurtur with his lawe euery man which hee plucketh or receiueth vnto him where through it becommeth than all made manifest in the man whatsoeuer becommeth chastised by the light or through the light Section 6 Through which fatherlie discipline in the becomming manifest of the sinne we are in seeing perceiuing in the light all the horriblenes of the sinne togither with Deuils and the fleshes lying craftie deceitful or false nature and Gods indignation and wrath ouer the same ouer all such as are of one minde therwith Section 7 When we nowe finde our selues guiltie in al and become in such sorte chastised by Gods grace through his light of the fatherlie loue so beare wee at that time greife sorrowe and anguish or affliction for the sinnes cause and confessing the same sinnes with humble heartes in the seruice of the holie word vnder the obedience of the loue of the father wee become wholy inclined and goodwilling to hate to leaue and to lay away or to mortifie the sinnes and all what is vngodly and to that effect we doe as than wholly giue ouer our selues in the counsaile of the holie worde and of the elders in the seruice of the loue To the ende that God the fathers name according to the requiring of the seruice of his loue might become hallowed and magnified in vs. Section 8 And euen so in the familie or communalty of the Loue wee obtaine grace and fauour before God the father and his sonne Iesu Christ become through the seruice of the holy woorde and of the fatherlie correction kepte and led foorth euen vnto Iesus Christ the sonne of GOD the father For to become iustified released or made free through the name of the sonne vnto whom God the father hath giuen all power both in heauen earth from the sinne ▪ and from her kingdom of the death of the Deuill and of all wicked spirites namely to our preseruation in the godlinesse in the
and minde with the vpright righteousnesse and holinesse For this is the right procreation to the renewing of the spirit and minde of the beleeuers and is also the true newe Testament which God hath promised to errect with his people which new Testament is the very true that God himself witnesseth in his people which are obedient vnto him out of faith in the seruice of his worde and bringeth euen so vnto them in the spirite of their minde the true God seruice of the spirituall and heauenly goodes and writeth according to his godly and heauenly trueth his lawe institutions and rites in the beeing of their inwarde minde In such sorte worketh the Lorde the holie one in Israel and bringeth forth euen so his children sonnes daughters seruants and handmaidens vpon which he in these last dayes poureth forth his spirit and remembreth no more their sinnes for they are a reconciled people vnto him which doe in all his wil. Beholde and consider such is the newe testament with his children for that same newe Testament is in his children the heauen the seate of the most hyest also spirit and life for that cause it is with his children heauenly spirituall and liuingly minded which children of the new testament loue not the worlde nor that which is in the worlde in asmuch as that the newe testament is wholy and altogether of God also the loue the life and the vpright beeing of the holie Ghost it selfe The state of his young scholers which he calleth the beliefe inasmuch as they hope for the perfection becommeth as hee saith with childe through the holy Ghoste and bringeth foorth a new creature according to the very like beeing of the heauenly Godhead and illuminateth the beleuers in their spirit and minde with the vpright righteousnesse and holinesse He calleth his doctrine likewise The true new testament all those vpon whom the spirit is powred forth in this sorte now in these last dayes he affirmeth of them that the Lord remembreth their sinnes no more rendring this reason because they are a reconciled people vnto him which doin all his wil. He affirmeth heere in like maner that these his children of the new testament loue not the worlde nor the things in the world and will haue this to be the cause and occasion thereof for that the new testament is wholy and altogither of God the loue the life the vpright being of the holie Ghost it selfe of such vertue operation that so sone as a man hath had a few receites therof all his worldly humours are forthwith voided thereby and he as cleare purged of them as if hee neuer had beene infected with them and which is yet more he sayth that this new testament is in his children the heauen the seate of the most highest also spirit and life for they be his owne words euen in this place You see then according to the doctrine of H.N. that our obedience whervnto we be brought by it beareth our sinnes in vs because when in all things wee doe his will wee stande as a people fully reconciled vnto our God and therefore wholy and altogether discharged of all daunger for our former sinnes For according to this doctrine when once we haue ceased to sinne sinne likewise ceaseth to lay anie thing to our charge and thus this obedience beareth our sinnes in vs This doctrine is confirmed by the Prophet Esay in his 53. Chapter if we will beleeue H.N. for that place is alledged by him for it Wherin he plainly bewrayeth vnto al the worlde that the spirite of darkenesse euen palpable blindnesse doth possesse him For if a man should come prepared to speake agaynst that poynt of hauing our sinnes answered and borne in our selues it were not possible to speake more plainly and more effectually against it then doeth the Prophet in that place For is it possible to adde anie thing plainer then this speach We like sheepe haue gone astray we haue turned euery one to his owne way and the Lord hath layd vpon him the iniquitie of vs all he was wounded for our transgressions he was broken for our iniquitie the chastisement of our peace was vpon him and with his stripes wee are healed Such grosse blindnesse is a iust punishment from God vpon thē which are offended and stumble at the cleare light that nowe shineth in the Gospel and so blinde guides are meete Scholemaisters for so manie as loue darkenesse more then light Could H.N. the seede of Satan iustifie our sinnes to be borne in our selues as from the Prophet euen in that place where he in plaine wordes sayeth that the iniquitie of vs all are laide vppon another if the Prince of darkenesse had not bereft him of al iudgement and pulled cleane out of his heade the eyes of vnderstanding We did iudge him to haue beene plagued of God saith the Prophet but it is cleare and out of all doubt he hath borne our infirmities and caried our sorrowes Neither is the Prophet more plaine in this case then is the Apostle Paule in the Epistle to the Romaines where he setteth the righteosnesse of one man for the making of many righteous against the disobedience of one vnto the making of manie sinners Can the righteousnesse of one man make manie righteous if this doctrine of H.N. be true that our sinnes are borne in our selues and our righteousnesse not layde vp in another for vs but resteth in our owne breastes within vs In the second Epistle to the Corinthes the Apostle doeth yet more plainly declare himselfe to haue a contrarie spirite to H.N. in that hee is flatte contrarie in speach For he affirmeth Christ to be a sinner in vs and vs to be righteous in him our sinnes to be imputed vnto him and his righteousnesse to be reckoned ours our sinnes to be borne in him and so he to be made sinne for vs and we righteousnesse in him For he made him to bee sinne for vs sayth the Apostle which knewe no sinne that we should be made the righteousnesse of God in him If he be made sinne for vs then are not our sinnes borne in vs if we be righteous before God or the righteousnes of God in him then not in vs but in him are our transgressions both borne and buried and our righteousnesse wholie and altogither purchased If the Sacrifices for sinne appointed to make reconciliation had beene eaten as were other then H N. and other heretikes shoulde haue had some colour to bleare the eyes of their Disciples withall touching this doctrine to haue their sinnes borne in them and their righteousnesse wrought by themselues but the sacrifices for sinne whose blood was brought into the tabernacle of the Congregation to make reconciliation in the holie place beeing figures of that alone Sacrifice by Christe by expresse woordes were forbidden to bee eaten and receyued into men Wherein the holie Ghost no doubt made a special Prouiso against this daungerous doctrine
in the same But to omit coniectures how euident soeuer they bee and to come to the matter iustified and warraunted by expresse writing howe is it that H. N. professeth that his holy Ghost becommeth poured foorth as he speaketh in the oldnesse of the time when men haue followed Christe in the death of his crosse vnto the newe life or seconde birth Can men make any beginning in Christianitie before the spirit of God bee geeuen vnto them Nay can they truely cōceine of that way before they be lightened with the spirite of God Doeth not the Apostle plainly affirme That no man knoweth the things of God but the spirite of God And therefore in the next verse confesseth That they had receiued the spirite of GOD whereby they myght knowe the thinges that were geuen them of GOD Haue the seruantes of GOD his spirite powred vppon them when they haue beene dead vnto sinne is it not by the power of the spirite of GOD that they die vnto sinne aswell as they that lyue vnto righteousnesse Doeth not the Apostle attribute the mortifiyng of the deedes of the body to the spirite in these woordes If yee mortifie the deedes of the body by the spirite yee shall liue Howe then dare H.N. vtter suche dangerous dreames as these bee of the holy Ghoste that hee shoulde not bee geuen vnto the seruauntes of GOD before they haue altogeather left sinne and become vtterly dead vnto the same For hee is of opinion that the holy ghost is not graunted vnto his familie before that time that Christe in the spirite as was spoken before appeare vnto them and they become partakers and possessed of that estate of perfection which hee dreameth of And therefore as was declared before he calleth the visible comming of the holy Ghost vpon the Apostles whereof mention is made in the second of the Actes the appearing of Christe in the spirite For that estate which his familie are partakers of before this perfection was called before the estate of the man in his youngnes and here it is called the dayes of the pacience of Christ in the obedience of the holy and gracious woorde and his seruice of loue and the keeping of the doctrine of his patience Now saith H.N. when those dayes of the pacience of Christ are fulfilled and when they haue kept the woorde of his pacience vnto the ende then becometh the holy Ghost powred foorth vpon suche from the right hande of GOD. By this doctrine in my iudgement H. N dealeth hardly with the man in his youngnesse For yf it shoulde please the Lorde to call any of his familie before they were come to this perfection which hee speaketh of they shoulde dye as reprobates out of the fauour of GOD the heires of euerlasting destruction For as saint Paule testifieth If any man haue not the spirite of Christ the same is not his and by this doctrine of H. N. they are not partakers thereof before those dayes of the pacience of Christe bee fully expired and this estate of perfection entred which hee calleth the second birth from the dead or the new life of the true beeyng of Christe H. N. Which vpright beleuers that folowe after Christ in death life become baptized or washed through Christ in the pure and liuing waters of the holy ghost those same shal also i become powred foorth ouer thē with ful clearenesse of God abūdantly for euen so through shedding foorth of the holy Ghoste ouer the vpright beleeuers in Christ vnder the obedience of the loue of the holy Ghost doeth Christ make manifest his holy church the cōmunialtie of his holy ones and establisheth on the same the promises of God his heauenly father and euen so plainely sheweth who are the right Christians in what maner of wise that they become baptized vnder the obedience of the beliefe of Iesu Christ in the name of the holy Ghost And that is the vpright christian baptisme in the name of the holy Ghost and it is the true seconde byrth out of the holy Ghost the ttue loue of GOD and Christ Answeare THese vpright beleeuers haue the waters of the holy Ghost as H. N. affirmeth powred foorth ouer them with full cleerenes of God abundantly and thus doth Christ make manifest his holy Churche vnder the obedience of the loue through the shedding foorth of the holy Ghost who is nothing els but the loue of God Christ with H.N. as appeareth in the lasse lyne of the last Section and this he calleth the baptisme in the name of the holy Ghost This doctrine hath bene confuted before there is nothing therefore remayning now but to geue you a sight of those absurde thinges which follow vppon it First of all by this doctrine H.N. his Christ in the spirite and his holie Ghost be all one Secondly the holie Ghost is not geuen but to them that are of this familie and subscribe to the doctrine and religion of H.N. Thirdly sinne is subdued before the holie Ghost bee graunted and geuen vnto them Fourthly Baptisme is no cutwarde seale and assurance of that good will the Lord beareth vnto vs but an inwarde perfect obedience that wee yeelde vnto him And last of al the holie Ghost is not that with begetteth in vs the loue of God Christ as it is written but it is the verie loue it self of God and Christ and nothing else These errours be so euident that if nothing had bene saide seuerally vnto them before being once brought out vnto the barre and arrayned a man woulde thinke they would at the first haue yeelded confessed and neuer for shame by pleading not guiltie haue made any further trouble vnto the countrie for their tryall H. N. Wee confesse that they all which become not grounded in this same vpright faith of Iesu Christ nor become euen so baptized as is before mencioned in the first article in the name of the Father vnder the obedience of the loue of the father and his lawe and as is before mencioned in the fourth article in the name of the Sonne vnder the obedience of the loue of the sonne and his beliefe and as is before mencioned in this 8. article in the name of the holie Ghost vnder the obedience of the loue of the holy Ghoste and his renuing of the life minde are no true Christians and that they also all that boast themselues to be Christians without this same vpright faith and baptisme are doubteles false christians Sectio 33. Therefore shall nowe in this same day of the loue the worde that the Lord Iesus hath spoken cōcerning the true be liefe and baptisme be a iudge also become fulfilled founde verie true and make knowen the beleeuers from the vnbeleeuers Section 34. For verilie who so beleeueth and becōmeth baptized after this maner like as we here confesse or acknowledge according to the word of Iesu Christ the vpright faith
which H. N. claimeth vnto himselfe in the first Chapter of his booke intituled Euangelium Regni The Gospel and ioyfull message of the kingdome H. N. Through the grace and mercie of God and through the holy spirite of the loue of Iesu Christe raised vp by the highest GOD from the death according to the prouidence of God and his promises annoynted with the holie Ghoste in the olde age of the holy vnderstanding of Iesu Christe Godded with God in the spirite of his loue made heyre with Christe in the heauenlye goodes of the riches of God illuminated in the spirite with the heauenly trueth the true light of the perfect Beyng elected to a Minister of the gracious woorde which is nowe in the laste time raysed vp by God according to his promises in the moste holy seruice of God vnder the obedience of his loue Answere THE first thing that H. N. would perswade vs is that God hath raised him from the dead or to vse his owne wordes that he is raised vp by the most highest God from the death For confirmation hereof hee alleageth the sixt of Iohn the 17. of the Actes and the seconde to the Ephesians For he wil not seeme to say that thing which two or three shall not be redy to witnesse with hym VVe are therefore to heare what these can say to that point In the sixt of Iohn he directeth vs by this letter f vnto this Scripture conteyned in the 54. verse Whosoeuer eateth my flesh drinketh my blood hath eternal life and I will raise him vp at the last day Heere is a promise made vnto all true christians for they onely haue their hartes prepared by faith to digest the flesh and blood of Christe that the Lorde will raise them vppe at the laste day which wee call the day of iudgement and the seconde comming of Christe The promise I graunt is past but the day taken to performe the couenant is yet to come For by the promise it is playne that wee may not looke to haue the matter perfourmed before the laste day which is the seconde comming of Christe I wil not here call it into question whether H. N. be one of them who eate his fleshe and drinke his blood that shall go as graunted at this time onely this I will saye that hee is to begge shamefully who with no other helpe then that hee hath from hence shall obteine so muche as a place among the common sorte of Christians but hee that will vppon this warrant deale as a Prophete and Teacher in the Churche It cannot be excused but that he doeth felloniously enter breake in and steale For there is no colour of anie good title to bee shewed for the same Now I pray you consider of his argument which is this The Lorde will raise vppe all his faithfull at the last day and therefore H. N. is already risen from the dead The matter is established as doone but the grounde is no other then a graunt and promise made in expresse woordes for the time yet to come For our Sauiour Christe sayth playnely that hee will raise them vp at the laste day Where there is not only noted a time to come but of that time also the laste and furthest day is taken and yet yee see that H. N. will haue the matter to be alreadie accomplished in him selfe and that not otherwise then by vertue of this promise Let that bee graunted which H. N hath begged and let his felonious acte for once bee pardoned yet hath hee proceeded no farther in proofe then that hee ought to be taken as a Prophet risen from the dead with condition to wit if that the day of iuddgemēt alredy be past The Lord open the eies of his familie leaste as hee is no Prophet vnlesse that bee paste which is yet to come so they in like maner become no true Christians before that which is for euer past heereafter shall come If the cause of suche confusion bee demaunded this it is He expoundeth the doctrine of our resurrection Allegorically and taketh it to be nothing els but to ryse in our iudgemente and affection from the likyng of all other too the embracing of his doctrine and religion And therefore the day of iudgement which wee looke for is in his opinion already come because the troumpe of his doctrine now soundeth which woorketh this his spiritual resurrection The confutation whereof you shall God willing haue more at large heereafter and yet there is sufficient euen in this place aleadged by him to ouerthrowe it For speaking of the children of GOD who are true Christians possessed by fayth of eternall life and therefore already rysen from the dead because to rise from errour to the imbrasing of the trueth which hee taketh his owne doctrine too bee is with him the rising from the dead euen of those hee sayth I will rayse them vp in the last day appoynting an other resurrection yet to come for those who by a true faith haue alredy taken holde of that spiritual rising from darknesse to light from sinne and iniquitie to righteousnesse and true christianitie If his best bulwarke appointed to beare of the first and greatest assault that shal be made against him bee thus weake there is good hope it wil be no great woorke too winne the hold it selfe His seconde confirmation is taken out of the Acts 17. verse 31. The woordes be these God wil iudge the worlde in righteousnesse by that man whom he hath appointed whereof he hath geuen assurance vnto al in that he hath raised him from the dead A place proper and peculiar vnto Christe alone whom God the father hath raised from corporall death to be an assuraunce vnto vs that hee is the man appointed who shal iudge the world in righteousnesse at the latter day There can be no other place more peculiar and proper vnto Christe then is this whereunto for all that H. N. wil be entituled Notwithstanding yf the woorde of GOD haue geuen it vnto him good reason hee shoulde enioy it Let it therfore bee considered what he hath saide for it This is his reason GOD hath geuen vs assuraunce that hee will iudge the world in righteousnesse by the man Christ in that hee hath raysed hym from the dead therefore H. N. is alreadie risen from the dead If H. N. bee Christ it foloweth necessarily though not by force of this argument yet by sufficient strength from the trueth of the matter it selfe that he shoulde be rysen from the dead because hee is the same person of whom it is sayde that he is already risen from the dead to assure vs of the last iudgement that it shal be holden by him selfe But if H.N. bee anie thing beside Christe there is no maner of helpe to bee had from this place For hee speaketh playnely heere of the bodyly death of Christe him selfe As for the affinitie betweene H. N. and Christe howe
as a matter out of doubt and yet might it well bee that the woorde whereof hee is a Minister were a gracious woorde as hee calleth it and for all that his election therevnto neither good nor gracious But woulde you heare what this gracious woorde is according as the Prophet testifieth of it Surely it is no other thing then euen now to bring vs the first newes of a matter done and past manie hundreth yeares agoe to witte that Iuda and Ierusalem shoulde bee inhabited againe by the Iewes after the captiuitie of Babilon In the place which he alledgeth out of the Prophete it is written thus Thus saith the Lord againe there shall be heard in this place which ye say shal be desolate without mā without beast euē in the cities of Iuda and the streetes of Ierusalem the voice of ioy and the voice of gladnesse the voice of the bridegrome the voice of the bride For I will cause to returne the captiuitie of the land as at the first The Iewes are cōforted by the prophet with this promise frō the Lord that they shal returne frō their captiuity and inhabite Iuda and Ierusalem with comfort and ioy of heart For saith he there shall be heard in your streetes the voice of ioy gladnes the voice of the bridegrome and the voice of the bride H.N. might well haue stayed among the dead neuer haue striuen so much about his resurrection from among them if he haue no other message then this for they are dead many hundreth yeares agoe to whom this matter did apperteine It is plaine therefore by his own testimonie that he hath no authority to deale with vs but with Iuda Ierusalem nor to bring anie doctrine into the world touching euerlasting saluation but onely cōcerning a temporall deliuerance neither to haue any thing to doe with men nowe liuing but with people long before this time deade Thus much in particular both touching his person and his office For his title in generall I haue to say that this title which is so ample and glorious being compared with the preface of the Apostles set before their writings wil soone discrie the diuersitie of spirits They dispatch vs touching the knowledge of themselues in the words of Seruant Apostle whē they stand the longest with vs vpō that matter By seruant declaring what they hold in common with all Christians by Apostle what they haue special in the function ministerie of the word Paul a seruāt of Iesus Christ called to be an Apostle Simon Peter a seruāt an Apostle of Iesus Christ And somtimes they are so sparing that they wil not spend both vpon vs. Iames a seruant of God and of the Lord Iesus Christ Peter an Apostle of Iesus Christ Iude a seruant of Iesus Christ But H. N. as if he could no longer beare such basenesse steppeth in before them with his stately stile and sayth H.N. Through the grace and mercie of God and through the holy spirite of the loue of Iesus Christ Raised vp by the highest God from the death according to the prouidence of God and his promises Anointed with the holy Ghost in the olde age of the holy vnderstanding of Iesus Christ Godded with God in the spirit of his loue Made heire with Christ in the heauenly goodes of the riches of God Illuminated in the spirite with the heauenly truth The true light of the perfect being Elected to a minister of the gracious worde which is now in the last time raised vp by God according to his promises in the most holy seruice of god vnder the obediēce of his loue What man measuring the matter by the outwarde face that is set vpon it would thinke the Apostles worthie to hold the candle to this mans cunning And what friend of theirs if H.N. would take vpon him to teach them the depth of his diuinitie would once seeme to offer with them lesse then the seruice of vii yeres Neither is there so great oddes betweene them in the multitude of titles as in the magnificence and dignitie of them How plain simple and farre from pride be the names of seruant Apostle How glorious swelling magnificēt be these speches Godded with God annointed with the holy Ghost in the olde age of the holy vnderstanding illuminated in the spirit the true light of the perfect being raised vp by the highest God frō the dead But no meruaile if H. N. be so glorious in titles for this he hath in common with the Heretikes of all times The Montanists who had their name beginning of Montanus the first heretike that practised to draw on disciples by procuring stipend and wages from the richer sorte of that sect to others the teachers and mainteyners thereof which was a baite that brought many to bite of those morsels and therefore vpon good consideration is nowe a freshe practised in this familie where there is so great famine of better arguments to perswade with all did affirme that they were wiser then the Apostles and alledged that place of the Apostle for it where Paule setting him selfe in the number with other sayeth We knowe in part For they mainteyned an absolute cleare and perfect reuelation in themselues affirming Montanus to be the holy Ghost promised to the Church whereof the Apostles had receyued but a little measure There were also a sect of people in that part of Pisidia which belongeth vnto Pamphilia who refused to receiue any into their felowship and communion that kept anie thing priuate and proper to themselues excluding them as straungers from the kingdome of God and they would be called Apostolici Apostolicall and be knowne by no other name Seruetus the heretike called himselfe Michael the keeper of the Church of God and the great prince of his people Dauid George H. N. his Schoole-maister though the scholer setting vp for himselfe will now take no more knowledge of anie maister or superiour calleth himselfe the seuenth Angell of GOD and the last trumpe And H. N. the father of this familie will bee godded with GOD and become the true light of the perfect being that in no wise hee might seeme to want that badge of boasting which is so speciall and proper vnto heretikes That which is commonly sayd of pictures and painted workes hath a fitte place in these workes of H.N. Picturae atque imagines eminùs non cominùs videndae Pictures and Images they are faire a farre off but if the eye drawe neare them there is then no sight or shew of them If a man looke at the diuinitie that is heere deliuered a farre off he would thinke it came from aboue the hiest heauen so great and goodly speaches of loue and peace be conteyned in it But come neare and lay it to the line of God his worde and beside that the lowest pit of hell shall not be able to afoorde worse wares then some that here be vttered It would
preuenting of GOD his goodnesse the dignitie and desert of bringing him selfe vnto Christe by his hatred and mislyking of sinne wheras the mislyking of sinne as well as the loue of righteousnesse are fruites that followe our beeing in Christ not causes that goe before to procure the same as appeareth in the Epistle to the Romans Likewise thinke ye also saith the Apostle that ye are deade vnto sinne and liuing vnto God in Iesus Christ our Lorde He ioyneth with the Pelagians against the grace of God which renueth and regenerateth vs and inwardly draweth vs by his spirit to beleeue and doe the will of God and will haue the grace of GOD no further to stretch vnto vs then that we haue from the Lord a lawe and doctrine whereby wee may learne what to beleeue and what to doe but the power to performe this albeit they will not refuse to call it the grace of GOD yet they say it is our nature according as August reporteth Isti autem asserunt sicut a fratribus qui eorum libros legerunt cognouimus in eo dei gratiam deputandam quod talem hominis instituit creauitque naturam quae per propriam volumtatem legem dei possit implere siue naturaliter in corde conscriptam siue in literis datam eandem quoque legē ad dei gratiam pertinere quod illam Deus in adiutoriū hominibus dedit illam vero gratiā qua vt dictum est Christiani sumus cuius Apostolus Praedicator est dicens condelector legi dei secūdum interiorem hominem Video autem aliam legem in membris meis repugnantem legi mentis mei et captiuantem me in lege peccati miser homo quis me liberabit de corpore mortis huius gratia dei per Iesum Christum dominum nostrum nolunt omnino cognoscere nec apertè quidam oppugnare audent In their opinion as Augustine saieth the grace of God towards vs is this that we haue such a nature from him that by our owne wil and power we may satisfie fulfill the law of God and that this is also that other parte of the grace of God towardes vs that hee hath giuen a lawe for the helpe of man But as for that grace whereby wee are are Christians whereof the Apostle speatketh saying I am delighted with the lawe of God in the inner man but I see an other lawe in my members striuing against the lawe of my minde Miserable man that I am who shall deliuer mee from this body of sinne The grace of God thorowe Iesus Christ our Lorde that will not acknowledge that neither dare they openly impugne or speake against it This plucking thorowe the seruice of that gracious word which he affirmeth to haue the foregoing by vs in the administration of the holie woorde in the thirde and fourth Section is according to the Pelagians the other grace of GOD which is added to that of our good nature euen to haue a rule instruction from God to guide this nature which in their opinion is so franke and so free vnto good that if it may once see the way there is no stay with it or let to keepe it from going forwarde And therefore where it is written in the Gospell after Saint Iohn No man can come vnto mee except the father which hath sent mee drawe him H.N. calleth this drawing of the father a plucking that plucking to be the giuing of a lawe and worde to rule our liues by In opinion then he ioyneth iumpe with the Pelagians for denying originall sinne he is forced to confesse the grace of GOD to be in nature and againe we see the lawe which doth poynte out the right way vnto life is called the plucking of the father or baptising in the fathers name H.N. Section 10 And that this is the vpright Christian Baptisme or washing in the name of the father and is the true baptisme which hath the forgoing in the christian doctrine of the seruice of loue Section 11 We confesse likewise that all such as beleue not euen thus in God the father beleeue vnrightly and that also they all which become not euen so as is aboue saide baptized thorowe the seruice of the holie worde vnder the obedience of the law of the Lorde or of the doctrine of his word in Gods loue or true being beare or carry not Gods holy name nor the spirite of his true beeing nor are baptized in the name of the father and that in like manner it is not meete or conuenient that men should count such vnbeleeuers and vnbaptized ones for Christians neither yet also for men at whose handes one should any way suppose or trust to finde any woorde of Gods trueth or yet any workes of righteousnesse or good seruice that God regardeth or accepteth Answeare It appeareth by these wordes that H. N. reckoneth of all beside his owne secte For there are no people beside him selfe and his familie who thinke or beleeue so erroniously as this confession teacheth as of Heathen vnbeleeuers vnbaptized ones they be his owne words as also be these It is not meete that men should account such for christians Whē hee concludeth that wee may not think to finde any woorde of God his trueth or any workes of righteousnesse among them whosoeuer beleeueth otherwise he speaketh not only ignorantly for that some trueth may be founde where there is store of errour and a wicked lyfe may be founde where the groundes of religion are truely holden but also maliciously agaynst the true Churche of GOD as that no woorde of trueth or woorke of righteousnesse were among vs who abhorre his religion as Heretical deuilishe doctrine What benefite doe these men receiue by the ministerie of the worde being thus perswaded of the Church of God In what readinesse are they to ioyne with any enimie for the ouerthrowe of the Churche being perswaded of vs that neither woorke of righteousnesse nor woorde of trueth is among vs I trust the Lorde wil moue the heartes of those who haue the gouernment in their handes either to trauaile to plant in them a better opinion of the Church or if that will not bee to cut them of as rotten members before they shall woorke any greater woe vnto the same The opinion of H. N. touching the Churche of God as appeareth by this his speache is most pernicious neither thinketh he worsse of Turks and infidels then hee doeth of all Christians that receiue not his doctrine What effectes this opinion may woorke in the heartes of the simple people that be seduced by him I leaue it to their godlie care to whom it doth chiefly appertaine to refourme the same H. N. The seconde Article Section 13 Wee beleeue in Iesus Christe the onely sonne of God our Lorde We confesse that the same sonne of GOD Iesus Christ is the very like being of the liuing God his father through whom god the father hath
as a thing vnneedefull not once distincting vnto whom the seruice after the ordinaunce of Aaron is yet necessary nor yet with whom the same at the appoynted time ceaseth or leaueth of but haue al for the most parte cried Christ Christ and we are Christians and attributed to themselues much freedome ere euer the time of the appearing of Christ or the annointing of the holy Ghost was come to passe or fulfilled with them in the accomplishing of the olde Testament Oh that they yet nowe awaked and tooke heede in the woorde of the seruice of loue vnto this gratious time and gaue eare vnto the same that they might vnderstande their safemaking and so then bee rightly and according to the trueth brought to the true beyng that is vnto Christ You heare that hee complayneth greately of the Scripture learned that they haue altogether and generally leaste the Leuiticall Priesshoode and seruice after the ordinaunce of Aaron forbidding it vnto all without exception when as the time of the appearing of Christ is not yet come to passe with many because they haue not taken heede in the woorde of the seruice of loue vnto this gracious time and therefore hee wisheth in the tenth Section that they yet woulde nowe awake and take heede in the woorde of the seruice of loue vnto this gratious time that so they might rightly and acording to the trueth bee brought to the true beyng that is as he saieth vnto Christ for these be his owne woordes in this place And so then be rightly and according to the truth brought vnto the true beeing that is vnto Christ So that nowe you see clerely by receiuing effectually this his doctrine men are made that true light whereof he spake before in this chapter when as he saide And this same true light is the annoynted with the holy Ghost which is named in Hebrue Messias and in Greeke Christus In the sixth Section hee declareth when men may be saide to come to this true being and perfection which he calleth Christ To witte when the law and seruices doe chaunge with the beleeuers out of the letter and seruiceable woorde into the reuealing of the holie spirite of Christ For then as hee sayeth in that Section The honourable Priest is come vnto them who teacheth not after the maner of Aaron by requiring them yet to obserue the will or righteousnes of the law but after the maner of Melchisedech bringing with him the blessing the accōplishing of the law the saluation of life the annointing of the holy Ghost these be his words Where now thē the law the seruices do in such wise change by the beleeuers of the annointed to witte out of the figures into the true beeing and out of the letter and seruiceable worde into the reuealing of the holy spirite of Christ there is also then by these same the Priest his office chaunged for Christ the honourable Priest cōmeth vnto them from the right hand of God the Father out of the heauenly beeyng which hath or vseth not his seruice after the maner or ordināce of Aaron which is yet a teaching and requiring to obserue the will or the righteousnesse of the lawe of the Lorde but after the maner or ordinance of Melchisedech with bringeth with him the blessing the accomplishing of the lawe or of the Lorde his will the saluation of life and the annointing of the holy Ghost to a pleadge of the godly inheritance to an euerlasting treasure or riches of God and reigneth in the righteousnes of the same See the miserie of this mischiefe hee will haue Christ to bee an estate in man which leaueth the written woorde which hee calleth the letter and hearkeneth wholly to the reuelation of the spirit which banisheth Aaron that is that estate which is carefull to doe the will and commaundementes of God and resteth resolued that they haue already accomplished the lawe and sinne no more And this is that true seede of promise whereof wee heard before out of the eightienth chapter of this booke which is not as he sayeth conceiued of the fleshe but of the holy Ghost through the power of the most highest in the beleefe this seede out of the faith of Abraham also of the pure virgin Marie is as he saith in that place the true seede of the promise to the blessing of all generations of the earth And this seede he calleth the vpright children of the beliefe Albeit I haue set downe the wordes before yet it shall not be amisse to recite the place againe worde for worde as it lieth there Consider ye beloued howe that there is shewed vnto vs and geuen vs to vnderstand through the speches of the Angel Gabriel which he vsed with Mary that at the same time when the holy Ghost came through the power of the most highest vpon the Virgin Marie and procreated the true seede of promise the time of the procreating of the seede of Abraham according to the fleshe turned it selfe about to wit that the holy and true seede of Abraham should not from thenceforth be conceiued of the flesh but of the holy Ghost through the power of the most highest in the belief that the same should euē so be borne out of the true faith of Abrahā for the seed out of the faith of Abraham out of the pure virgin Mary is the true seed of promise to the blessing of all generations of the earth And thus from that time foorth the Genealogie of the seede of Abraham according to the fleshe ceassed with the Beleeuers for the vpright children of the belief which had their discent out of the seed of the faith of Abraham and of the pure Virgin Mary as also frō the holie Ghost were knowē to be the true seede of Abraham because the same seede was the seede of the promise of God the Father was likewise in his minde according to the spirite the likenes of God his father also spirit spirituall of the godly nature being according to the will of God wholly minded with God. It appeareth likewise plainely in that his booke which is intituled The Prophesie of the spirit of loue chapter xv v. Section that this state of perfection which is there called the seconde birth is Christ Iesus the Lord and sauiour These be his woordes O ye holy ones of God thou louely communaltie of loue feare not but be nowe of good cheere vpon the earth against all your enimies For beholde your GOD commeth to be auenged on all your enimies for to lay them that they may bee troden downe vnder the feete of your Lorde and Sauiour Iesus Christ and euen so in your second birth out of the holy spirite of the loue of Iesus Christ to transporte or yeeld ouer the iudgement and dominion vpon the earth vnto you and your Sauiour Iesus Christ to the ende that yee with him and he with you and your sauiour Iesus Christ and with his
and baptism he shall become saued but who so beleeueth not hee shall according to the worde of Iesu Christ become cōdemned 35. For that cause let no mā boast him to be a christiā that hath not in the vpright faith receiued the true tokens of the Christianitie that is that beareth or carieth not the name of the Father and of the Sonne and of the holie Ghost essentially and liuingly in him otherwise he shall assuredly in this same day of the loue of the righteous iudgement before al the holie ones of God which are comprehēded in the communialtie of the loue bee founde false and lying For the woorde that the Lorde Iesus Christ hath spoken shal iudge him in this same newest day Answeare H.N. proceedeth nowe to the sentence of euerlasting condemnation which hee thundreth out agaynst all howe many soeuer who shall not nowe in this present day of the loue beleeue this doctrine which he hath here published and professed What sentence hee himselfe lieth vnder I leaue it vnto the Lorde but if there be any place left vnto prayer for him I pray God hee may be so truely touched with repentaunce as that curse may be turned from him which wayteth for so many as by damnable doctrine shall leade blinde and simple soules out of the way In the meane time we stande assured from the mouth of the lorde that the curse which is causelesse shall not come The true Churche of Christ acknowledgeth the holy Ghost to be God equall with the Father and the Sonne because the Scripture geueth libertie and freedome vnto him in distributing of graces and giftes vnto the children of god According as we reade in the former Epistle to the Corinthes Al these thinges worketh one and the self same spirite distributing to euerie man seuerallie as he will because in like maner it ioyneth him with the father and the sonne makinge but one God of those three persons as it is written in the first Epistle of Saint Iohn There are three which beare recorde in heauen the Father the worde and the holy Ghost and these three are one Wee doe assuredly beleeue that the holie Ghost will bee our comforter vnto the ende as well in woorking the woorkes of sanctification in vs as in making strong and sealing vp vnto our spirite the assurance of saluation and euerlasting life bringing all that to passe in our weakenesse which the Lorde hath promised in his woorde For the which ende he is sent from the Father and the Sonne into the world Which effectes are many in number and merueilous for the great workemanshippe thereof in such frailtie as wee are forced to feele and confesse to be within our selues For what a wonderful worke is this in flesh and bloud to haue a wise and vnderstanding heart in the will and word of his God The Apostle setteth this sight of God his goodnesse towardes vs which is offered in the Gospel farre aboue the reach eyther of sense or reason attributing it onely to the holy Ghost The things which eye hath not seen neither eare heard neither came into mans heart hath God prepared for them that loue him but God hath reuealed them vnto vs by his spirit for what mā knoweth the thinges of a man saue the spirit of a mā euen so the things of God knoweth no mā but the spirit of god What a rare work is this in like manner to geue vnto men who are priuie to themselues of manifolde offences and great wretchednes the confidence and boldenesse to call God Father making a full reckoning of his fauour and good wil towards them which thing is notwithstanding wrought in the seruants of God by the spirit of God as the Apostle witnesseth because ye are sonnes God hath sent forth the spirite of his sonne into your hartes which crieth Abba Father Of what difficultie likewise is that woorke to quicken this not dull but dead disposition within vs in the wayes of the Lorde his lawes and in the woorkes of his commaundementes yet doeth the spirite of God performe it in vs as wee reade in the Epistle to the Romanes If the spirite of him that raised vppe Iesus from the dead dwell in you he that raysed vp Christe from the dead shall also quicken your mortall bodies by his spirite that dwelleth in you Moreouer that passeth the power of man in our afflictions to be guided vnto God and to haue beside the matter the acceptable maner also of mourning and groning ministred vnto vs which proceedeth from the spirite of God as it is written to the Romanes Likewise the spirite also helpeth our infirmities for we know not what to pray as we ought but the spirite it selfe maketh request for vs with sighes which cannot be expressed but he that searcheth the heartes knoweth what is the meaning of the spirite for he maketh request for the faultes according to the will of God. And howe woonderfull is the Lorde by this woorke of his spirite in vs who are yet kept from our Countrey kingdome and oftentimes so euill intreated and so litle regarded that not onelie men but the Lorde himselfe seemeth to reckon of vs as vnwoorthie of any welfare here vppon earth to haue notwithstanding within vs a good earnest of our inheritance in heauē euē the spirit of God who hath also to name Comforter for these and like effectes of consolatiō after that ye beleued ye were sealed with the holy spirite of promise which is the earnest of our inheritaunce for the redēption of that libertie purchased to the praise of his glory As for H.N. his holie Ghost there are no suche thinges to bee had from him for concerning the earnest and assurance to be made for our inheritaunce what vse can there be thereof when once wee are entred vpon the same nowe by H.N. his doctrine euerlasting life is in this life and in this estate of perfection which he professeth therfore when possession is taken there is no longer place for anie pledge or earnest of assurance and therefore H.N. his holie Ghost cannot bee he which the Scripture setteth foorth and maketh knowen by the propertie of a pleadge or earnest Beside this when H.N. his holie Ghost is once come they are past praier for sinne they haue not to pray against it beyng no sinners and goodnesse they want not beyng perfect and therefore he is not that holie Ghost which the Scripture speaketh off that helpeth their infirmities who know not what to pray as they ought making request with sighes and grones that cannot be expressed H.N. The nienth Article Wee beleeue one holy Churche a communialtie of holie ones which is the conioyned bodie of Christ or incorporated through the loue to Christ and that the shedding forth of the holy Ghost commeth to passe vnder the obedience of the loue vppon the same For through the holie Ghost wherewith shee is in
of the heauenly goods which are administred and brought thorow the seruice of loue to an euerlasting perfection vnto the vpright of heart and wherin al vnperfect or childish things Images figures and shadowes do ceasse becommeth nowe in this present day O ye louers of the truth euangelized and declared vnto you all and thereto also yee all so well as we were created for to liue therein and are called and bidden vnto the same out of the grace and mercie of God by me H. N. in whom God hath sealed the dwelling of his glorie and his holie name Wee are taught out of the worde of God to beleeue and assuredly to looke for the resurrection of this our flesh which by death is taken downe and layde into the dust For by that league and couenant wherein the Lord standeth bound vnto vs to become our God he hath not onely taken our soule but our fleshe and bodie also into his fatherly protection and that not for the time of this life alone but in like maner for the life to come And therefore our Sauiour Christ Iesus by these words of the couenant proueth that the dead shal rise againe yea that Abraham who had bene alreadie partaker of rising from sinne in truth the shadow whereof H.N. vrgeth for the rising againe of the flesh should haue yet an other resurrection which is to rise vp in flesh and bone to inherite euerlasting comfort as well in bodie as in soule For as the godly doe glorifie GOD here vpon earth both in bodie and soule so shall they likewise be glorified of him in both in the life to come And this is an article of our beliefe and especiall comfort left vnto Christians But how can it be that H.N. should be priuie vnto these such like comfortes who is vtterly ignoraunt of Christ the procurer of thē The Apostle Paule whose conuersation was in heauen and therefore already possessed of the rising from sinne looked notwithstanding for this resurrection of the bodie when it should be chaunged and made like vnto the glorious bodie of Iesus Christ as it is written in the Epistle to the Philippians But our cōuersation is in heauen from whence also wee looke for the sauiour euen the Lord Iesus Christ who shall chaunge our vile bodies that it may be fashioned like vnto his glorious bodie according to the working whereby hee is able euen to subdue all things vnto himselfe It is manifest then by this which hath bene spoken that the resurrectiō of the bodie cannot be drowned as H.N. his doctrine doeth teach vs in the rising from sinne and wickednesse And beside in this short abstract of the principal points of our faith is it possible to perswade any man that one and the same thing shoulde bee the matter and argument of sundrie articles Now by the doctrine of H.N. this article is the same in effect with those of Christ his rising the third day frō the dead his ascending into heauē his sitting at the right hand of God his father yea it is the same in meaning with those of the holy ghost the holy catholike Church the cōmunion of Saints the forgiuenes of sinnes For all these be nothing else besides that estate of life which his doctrine doeth describe to bee the louely being and that estate of perfection which his illuminate elders bee possessed of What cause haue all true hearted Christians to crie out agaynst this doctrine which shrinketh vp so manie and speciall comfortes so proper and peculiar vnto them H. N. The .xij. Article And we beleeue one euerlasting life Amen We confesse that the same euerlasting life is a true light of men and that God hath made and chosen him the man hereto that hee shoulde liue in the same light euerlastingly it is verie true Answere This euerlasting life which H. N. speaketh of is no other thing then that doctrine which he professeth And therfore he calleth it a true light of men according as we haue heard before in his title that in respect of this doctrine he chalengeth vnto him selfe to bee called the true light of the perfect being alledging the same place that here is cited for proofe thereof But least some might say that this place is not plaine inough to warrant this to be their opinion let vs heare himself open his owne meaning more at large These are his owne wordes in the 34. Chapter of his Euangelie Section 4. In this same day or last time namely in the perfection of the workes of God in his righteous iudgement the God of heauē hath now declared himself his christ together with al his saints to vs his elect also made a dwelling with vs brought euen so vnto vs out of his holy being the most holie of his true tabernacle with the fulnes of his garnishing and spiritual heauenly riches to an euerlasting fast standing Ierusalem and house for Gods dwelling according to the Scripture the which is the verie true vndisturbable kingdome full of all godly power ioy and of all heauenly beautifulnesse wherin the land of the lord with fulnesse of eternall life and louely sweetenesse is sung from euerlasting to euerlasting and wherein all mindes of pure heartes doe dwell liue and walke with freedome and Christian triumph in all loue This day of loue is with him as you heare the last time and therefore nowe doeth God make his dwelling with vs and bringeth the fulnesse of his spiritual riches And this kingdome as he sayeth here is the verie true vndisturbable kingdome full of all godly ioy and heauenly beautifulnes wherein is the fulnesse of eternall life He calleth it the eternall life because this doctrine must reigne on earth for euer and therefore in his exposition vpon this Article he doeth not affirme that anie one man shall liue in the same light euerlastingly but speaking indefinitely sayeth the man shall liue in it euerlastingly because there shall bee from hencefoorth in all times hereafter men founde that shall walke in perfecte obedience vnto this Doctrine It appeareth likewise out of his Euangelie that he professeth euerlasting life to be nothing else but his doctrine So that to liue in perfect obedience vnto that is no other thing then to liue in the life euerlasting in that light that shineth therein And it is therefore called euerlasting because it shal be professed for euer and no religion preuaile against it These bee his owne woordes Euangelie 37.13 Therefore also is this day or light of the loue with his seruice in the most holie the last day and the perfection or conclusion of all the workes of God in the which God himselfe with his Christ and with all the thousandes of his Saintes as in the moste holy of his true tabernacle appeareth and commeth vnto the beleeuers and obedient ones to the requiring of his worde to an eternall rest of his holy ones and to a godly consolation for all afflicted
to the Churche of GOD howe pernicious to the common wealth and priuate families and howe farre from the spirite of GOD forasmuche as thereby the Lorde Iesus is bereft of all his kingly Priestly and Propheticall dignitie all godlinesse is ouer throwen a windowe is opened to all sinnes and wickednesse to fraude deceipt lying fornication theft idolatrie and couetousnesse and after this life the hope of eternall life in immortall fleshe and the feare of hel fire are taken from the mindes of men euery one hauing but a sparke of godlinesse and of the knowledge of Christ doeth easily perceiue so that there needeth not heere manye woordes for the confutation thereof This one thing is briefly to be added that it may not seme woonderfull to any yf many in our age doe fall into this so grosse an errour For in suche disagreementes of true religion men knowyng the Idolatrie of the papacie the whiche can bee vnknowen to none but too the dullest kinde of men and beeing terrified from the profession of true religion through the feare of persecutions troubles or of pride plucking away the shoulders from vnder the yooke of Christe doe moste easily fall into that moste detestable errour which is beautified with the Title of sweete peace and concorde is verie plausible through the large promise of lyberty God also is iust with punisheth this intollerable vnthankefulnes of the worlde agaynst Christ and his word with such grosse errours according to that prophecie of the Apostle Because they receiued not the loue of the trueth that they might be saued Therfore god wil send thē strōg delusion that they may beleeue lies ▪ that al they might bee damned which haue not beleued the truth but haue had pleasure in vnrighteousnesse But if any shal more diligently examine the Apostolical prophecies w are written in the 2. Tim. 3. 2 Pet. 2. 3. Chapter and in the epistle of Iude concerning the last times shal then be sufficiently armed against that diuelishe peace We are also admonished in the Scriptures that true peace is enclosed in certayne limites least we shoulde be deceiued with some vaine shadowe of peace For true peace is ioyned with an vnspeakable knot to faith and charitie It consisteth also in a good thing and that also according to Christ as it is manifest by these words of the Apostle Nowe abideth faith hope and charitie these three Again Let euery one of vs please his neighbour in that which is good or in a good thing to edificatiō Also The God of pacience and consolatiō giue you that yee bee lyke minded one towardes another according to Iesus Christe that yee with one minde and one mouth may prayse God euen the father of our Lord Iesus Christe Away therfore with this newe cursed peace togeather with the house the founder therof which passeth neither for faith nor hope and is occupied in euil thinges and forbidden of GOD and shutteth out Iesus Christe For yf the studie of peace excused not Aaron for makyng a Calfe nor Saule for sacrificing nor Peter for dissembling neither shall these truely escape vnpunished of the Lorde who vnder the title of peace ouerthrowe all honestie and religion especially seeing that the Prophetes in olde time haue vehemently cryed against all promise of false peace Esay also crieth Woe to them which call euill good and good euill which put darknesse for light and light for darkenesse who put sowre for sweete and sweete for sowre This same people of peace as they wil be called cannot free it selfe from this faulte whiles that it leaueth those thinges free to them of their owne profession which GOD in his woorde hath seuerely punished and moste greeuously condempned Hitherto therefore we hope it hath beene sufficiently shewed of vs howe greatly wee ought to take heede of them all who to the godly that are inlightened with the true knowledge of the Gospell wyl haue that departing from the impure congregations and superstitions of the Romishe Churche to be vnlawfull ⁂ A Confutation of the Doctrine of Dauid George and H. N. the Father of the Familie of Loue By M. Nicholas Charinaeus who died heere at London Minister of the woorde in the Dutch Churche about the beginning of September in the yeere 1563. DAVID George of whom mencion is made before added to the foresayde argumentes of the aduersaries agaynst the obseruation of the Ecclesiasticall congregations that the vse of all rytes and ceremonies instituted of Christe was simply taken away by him because that hee as he thought executing the office of the holy Ghost should lead al men into all trueth and shoulde bryng foorth that which was perfect and therfore shoulde abolishe that which was but in part And seeyng that hee fained that his doctrine is moste perfect more excellent and farre surpassing the doctrine of Christ as which must be constrained to geue place vnto him whatsoeuer the scripture witnesseth of mans perfection in the commyng of Christ al that hee so impudently draweth vnto hym selfe and to his doctrine that he promiseth vnto him self to his disciples the ful dominion of the whole world immortalitie also perfect righteousnes yea that in this flesh vnderstanding by the name of perfect righteousnes that same inward affection of the minde altogeather free from all sence of sinne But a certaine chiefe builder of the house and Citie of peace and a framer of that same glasse of righteousnesse perceiuing that yet that same full libertie was not permitted vnto men by Dauid George as he that yet bounde them vnto his person boasteth that hee hath found out a more perfect doctrine then that was of Dauids To wit that whosoeuer dwelleth in the house of Loue not onely is free from all religion of Christ but also altogeather from all outward religion and from all holy ceremonies Nowe he calleth loue that same affection of the minde by which a man neyther feeleth in hym selfe nor in any other any euyll or sinne but all thinges what soeuer they bee hee interpreteth them to bee good Now because the neere kindred of the opinions of both these Antichristes doe not onely bryng to nothyng the religious obseruation of Ecclesiastical congregations which come togeather in the name of Christ but also taketh out of the mindes of men the hope of the life to come in Christe Iesus and doeth open windowes doores to al iniquities I am constrayned to confute it in this place and that in fewe woordes First of all I require of both of them that they woulde playnely prooue by manyfest testimonies out of the holy Scripture that the doctrine of the Gospel of Iesus Christ must once bee abolished out of the Churche and a nother more perfect succeede in the place thereof and if it ought too bee abolished that it is theirs that ought to succeed it to continue for euer Besides that let them perfourme those thinges in deede which the holy Scripture
find in thy hart to afford God for thy welth It followeth we must liue godly this necessarily is ioyned to righteousnesse For it were but a vaine thing to be precise in geuing man his right then to withholde the Lord his thorowe impietie Wee must communicate with him as I tolde you before in his worde Receiue the lawe of his mouth and lay vp his wordes in thy heart Dauid hauing declared before howe the heauens doe declare the glorie of God and howe the creatures doe leade vs vnto some knowledge of him immediately as one rauished with the maiestie and excellencie of that knowledge of God which we haue by the worde and as one who taketh that other kinde of teaching to be nothing in respect of this affirmeth that the lawe of the Lorde conuerteth the soule that it giueth wisedome to the simple giueth light to the eyes and bringeth ioy to the heart making these to be the special prerogatiues of the worde of GOD which neither by the creatures nor yet by anie other outward meanes may be atteined vnto It behoueth vs therefore to haue often vse of the woorde of GOD not onely to take our knowledge from thence howe to serue him but also to seeke for incouragement and quickening therevnto from it For the woorde of God quickeneth vs to our dueties and stirreth vp the slownesse that by nature is in vs A notable example whereof we haue in the 2. of the Chronicles cap. 15. Wee are likewise to rest vpon his goodnesse whereof hee hath made vs such large promises in his worde to applie his benefites as speciall helpes to strengthen our fayth in the perswasion of his fatherly affection towardes vs and to prouoke our obedience the rather thereby and to bee often and earnest in prayer with him both to haue our strength and abilitie to serue him by that meanes increased and also to prouide that neither by our subtile aduersarie nor yet by our owne frailtie wee bee intrapped in the nette of destruction For albeit by his grace our spirite bee readie yet haue wee a weake fleshe which is to bee dragged forward by strength obteyned thorow prayer from our god These things must wee bee giuen vnto and neither by a plaine reiecting of them and erecting of our owne deuotion neither yet by a colde and carelesse vse of them to tempt the Lorde and to vpholde vs in vngodlinesse and the fruites thereof The Papistes Anabaptists Libertines and familie of Loue are all sworne enemies vnto godlinesse for as much as they will haue the woorde altogither subiect to their spirite For they will haue it not to speake but as their spirit shall indite and herevpon they build that they are the Church and therefore haue a promise of the holy Ghost to keepe them that they erre not Enquire of a Papist from whence come their vnwritten verities and manifolde traditions they answere there were many thinges that the Apostles then were not able to beare which the holie spirite beeing nowe come hath taught them The Anabaptists Libertines and house of Loue vrged with the Scripture will aske you what sayeth the Spirite affirming that to bee but the killing letter Thus both of them howsoeuer in other things greatly differing haue this common principle for their foundation and beginning that the Scriptures beeing but an ABC to Christianitie the spelling and reading thereof must be drawne from their Spirite as if the Gospel should giue place to reuelations and so carie with it the staine of imperfection or as if the Spirite could be diuorced from the written woorde which it was sent to teach and confirme As it is written He shal bring all thinges to your remembrance which I haue tolde you What can bee a more shamefull abasing of Christ then to make him but vsher and their Spirite in place aboue him chiefe Schoolemaister that as the law brought vs by the hande to Christe so Christ shoulde bee our guide vnto reuelation and resigne vnto it as the lawe did vnto him They will not denie the woorde but in trueth they make it a matter of nothing For they will allowe no sence vnto it but suche as their Spirite shall sette vppon it So that in verie deede howe so euer they woulde bee thought to leade vs to the woorde they doe leade their Disciples onely to the dreames and deuises of their owne heade In the time of the Law when visions and reuelations were often and vsuall yet were they then subiect to the worde and to be tried by it nay to be ouerruled of it According as we reade If there arise among you a Prophet and giue thee a signe or wonder and the signe or wonder which he hath told thee come to passe saying let vs go after other gods thou shalt not hearken vnto the wordes of the Prophet ye shall walke after the Lord your God and shal keepe his commandements and hearken vnto his voice but that Prophet shal be slaine because he hath spoken to thrust thee out of the way wherein the Lord thy God commaunded thee to walke If in the times when visions and reuelations had their best alowance the most lawful title that euer they had all that notwithstanding they were to giue vp their account vnto the written worde of God and from thence to receiue their quietus est Wee may not then in these times receiue such wares vnder the alone warrant of their owne weightes when faith must fight against miracles and reuelations for the woorde which in the infancie of the Church was helped by miracles vnto the worde Howe can there bee anie true godlinesse among this people among whom God is not licenced to speake in his worde what pleaseth him but the worde strained by their spirite to speake after the liking of miserable men Great is the vngodlinesse likewise of those men who hauing banished superstition and fantasticall reuelation yet for all that leaning vnto the holde of their profession of the trueth as vnto a sufficient fortresse doe not submitte themselues to anie often and earnest vse of the woorde and prayer with conscience and care to haue their wayes refourmed by it and with perswasion of anie great necessitie that they haue of it We can not geue our selues vnto these dueties vnlesse we shal be in the expectation and lookinge after the hope of an other life therfore very fitly doth the Apostle ioyne vnto these seuerall duties that wee haue hearde of this speache Waiting for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of the mightie God our Sauiour Iesus Christe For it can not come to passe we shoulde bee taken of from things here belowe vnlesse we be assured ells where No man wil let goe things assured for vncertaine Faith must geue vs assuraunce of greater glory from god ere we can let goe the hould that wee haue here Therfore it is made a speciall note of god his children and necessarily ioyned to his worshippe to bee in
A Confutation of monstrous and horrible heresies taught by H. N. and embraced of a number who call themselues the Familie of Loue. by I. Knewstub Ephe. 4.14.15 Henceforth let vs be no more children vvauering and caried about vvith euerie vvind of doctrine by the deceit of men and vvith craftinesse vvhereby they lay in vvaite to deceiue But let vs follovv the truth in loue and in all thinges grovv vp into him vvhich is the head that is Christ Seene and allowed according to the Queenes Maiesties Iniunctions ¶ Imprinted in London at the three Cranes in the Vine-tree by Thomas Dawson for Richard Sergier 1579. To the right honorable his very good Lord and Maister Ambrose Earle of Warwick maister of her maiesties Ordinance Knight of the noble order of the Garter and one of her highnesse moste honorable priuie Councel Iohn Knewstub wisheth increase of all true happinesse and honour with the continuall comfort of a good conscience GReate haue beene those harmes right honorable and my very good Lord which the Church of God in euery age hath suffred at the hands of straungers open enemies vnto the trueth but yet nothing so grieuous as that hurte which she hath frō time to time had at home by some who haue long layen in her owne bosome and as Children beene serued from her owne table For as ciuill warre is alwayes more dangerous then foraine force So the enemyes within the church be they who of al other deale with greatest danger against the Church Against the force of an open enimy we haue the strength of a double wall the credite of a cause for Religion the concorde of our mindes But these walles are wanting when the Church dealeth against enimyes gone out from her which sometimes haue been of her For touching the cause of religion they wil be equall with vs touching the points wherin we differ they may be thought euen of some who are no sworne enemyes vnto Religion if matters be not very wisely with great iudgemēt examined to ouermatch vs For the continuance of friendship as they pretend vnto Religion seemeth to assure vs that their profiting in knowledge and iudgement and no other cause hath moued them aswell to be diuers from them selues as to departe from vs As for the professed enemie he is more hardened against our cause and better armed against our selues when he seeth the cause it selfe as it were parted by opinion and vs deuided from our selues in affection These enemyes of the Church do both strengthen the enemies arme abrode and also discourage the friendes at home yet hath the true Church alwayes beene subiect to this tryal euen when Doctrine was moste pure and pastors most painfull Was not Moses in his time troubled with Iannes and Iambres Paule in his time with Hymenaeus and Phyletus Iohn the Euangelist with a multitude of Antichristes and yet I thinke no man dare take exception either against the puritie of doctrine at those times or against the trauell paynes of those persons Neyther haue we onely examples to tell vs it hath bene so but doctrine left in the Church to tel vs that it must be so There were false Prophetes among the people sayeth Saint Peter euen as there shall bee false teachers among you which priuily shall bring in damnable Heresies denying the Lorde that hath bought them There muste bee heresies sayeth Saint Paule euen among you that they which are proued among you may be knowne The causes why it must be thus with the Church doe I finde in the scripture to be these that the good may bee tried and knowne the wicked foūd out punished The good are tried whether they loue the Lord aswel by their affection towarde the doctrine of Christe as by their fruits of conuersation For there is no man that loueth an other who is not studious of his disposition to knowe what is well liked of him and acceptable vnto him that he may serue his humour and be set a woorke to his good liking and pleasure So that hee who hath bestowed no study that way either is not otherwise setled in iudgement or moued with affection but that euery seducer may deceiue him doeth plainely declare therein that he beareth no loue towards him Punishment is executed against the wicked either by giuing them vp into heresies and erronious opinions for that hauinge the trueth in knowledge they made no conscience of it neither in affection did beare any loue towarde it either else because not submitting them selues to the simplicitie of the word they haue desired to be fed with curious questions matters of witte and subtile speculations Of both those offences we are not onely warned off by the doctrine of the woorde but also by the heauy iudgement of God which did fall vpon certaine offenders herein whereof there is expresse menciō made in the word Great is the grossenes thē of the Papists who therfore stūble at the true church because some proue heretiques that haue beene brought vp in the bosome therof as if they had neuer red this in the Scripture spoken in the person of the Church They went out from vs but they were not of vs for if they had beene of vs they woulde haue continued with vs but greater is the carelessenesse of many that would be accounted Christians who notwithstanding all these heauie examples and visible warnings of Gods wrath bee not touched for all that with care to ioyne conscience vnto knowledge and to let a good iudgement haue the honour of a louing affection alwayes waiting vpon it May professors of the trueth now possibly bee any longer satisfied with bare profession when the almightie hath alredy takē the reuengmēt therof into his own hands begun to driue such out of their dennes to hunt them out of their lurking holes and not to leaue them before hee haue brought their deserued iudgement of palpable blindenesse vpon them so that we se them before our eyes glory in their shame and put vpon them as a garment of honour the couering of confusion therefore the punishment of God fallen now visibly vpon this family is the iudgement of bare professors and carnal Gospellers In these persons they al are arrained found giltie iudged Now haue we learned by tryall experience that the Gospel disdaineth the sole attendance of our knowledge and looketh to bee receiued in like manner with a good heart and friendly affection And good cause and reason there is why it should be so for who is so meane amongst men that would be content with this entertainmēt amongst his friendes if at his comming to them they would vouchsafe to name him and take knowledge that they had seene him And is not this the best welcome that many in these dayes doe make the Gospel they are content to speake to it take knowledge of it but they are but a few that so friendly do entertaine
For mark their meating you shal perceiue that alwaies the one draweth vpō the other wil neuer leaue him before he haue either a leg or an arme of him And in asmuch as partly by his dark speaking partly by his allegorical expositiō he hath hatched a mōster of perfectiō which he calleth Christ I haue added to the end of this booke 3. seuerall short treatises of those 3. special matters concluding the booke with a Sermō which I made heretofore moued therunto by the iudgemēt of some not only for that the present occasiō did then force me to stād vpō that historie of Christ his death which H.N. would wholy and altogither transforme into an allegorie but also for that in so large a matter of doctrine to reforme our iudgemēt I wished there might be somwhat ioined to further our cōuersation I haue likewise set down the iudgemēt of some godly learned as wel of the Dutch church as of our owne touching these heresies of H.N. that thēselues may see I am not alone neither in my opiniō of thē neither in this necessarie cōtention by writing with thē These fruits of my labours my very good Lord I present vnto your honour as a publike testimonie of my humble duetie good will vnto your L. not only in respect of my selfe for your L. great good deseruings towarde me but also in regarde of many others who find a safe harborow vnder your honourable protection and haue such an easie accesse entrance vnto your honour in all their good occasions and lawfull requests as bindeth vs vnto all duetie and thankfulnesse vnto his maiestie and your honor as his instrument for the same Which hath made me bold at this time to cōmend vnto your honourable care the redresse of a dangerous enormity which of late hath broken out in this land I meane this Athisme brought in by H.N. that his household who will bee called the Familie of loue The seruice your honour may doe vnto God in it is great the hope to preuaile against them in like maner is good for as true Religion spreadeth and increaseth vnder the crosse so punishment and affliction is the bane of heresie and false religion With what care and conscience such matters are to bee dealt withall that which is read in Deut. 14. may sufficiently direct your honour Where it is plainly declared that if anie shall secretly intice vnto a strange religion either friend husband or brother the nearest bondes that nature or friendship hath they stand charged not only to reueale it but also that their handes shall be first vpon them to put them to death To bewray the secretes of a deare friend who is to a man as his owne soule seemeth to flesh and blood an heynous matter to deale so with a mans brother the sonne of his mother or with his daughter the bowels of his owne bodie the law of nature doeth crie out of it and yet for the glorie of our God we are not onely in such a case to reueale this against them but our selues to be the chiefe doers in the death execution of thē which telleth vs that with the true worship of God and religion neither friendship nor nature may enter anie comparison nay it telleth vs that at the bringing in of Idolatry a strange religion how secretly soeuer the seedes therof shal be sowen rather thē by the impunitie therof Gods glorie should be defaced and the daunger that is due for the neglect thereof should be susteined we are not onely to lay aside naturall affection but euē to breake into our owne bowels to bathe our selues in our owne blood The case so nearly touching the glorie of our God I am in good hope that this which hath bene said shall sufficiently perswade your honour to enter into some speedie care consideration how to suppresse so great grieuous a danger Your L. labour in this cause so directly and so daungerously dealing against the highest hee can neuer forget to recompence who hath promised to reward euē to a cup of cold water bestowed vpō the least of those little ones who doe beleeue in his name The God of all glorie make you partaker of that honour which is assured vnto all them who by these such like fruites of faith shall trauaile the ratifying of their owne election and the remouing of all such enormities or blemishes which either hurt the health or hinder the beautie of the Church Your Lordships most bounden to serue in the Lorde Iohn Knewstub To the Reader grace and peace THe holie Apostle speaking of the comming of the Romishe Antichrist sheweth that the Lorde woulde set vp that rennagate seat as it were an executioner or sergeant of his wrathfull iudgement against those which should not haue the loue of the trueth that they which would not effectually beleeue it receiuing sentence of the Lord himself to beleeue lies effectually shoulde be put to the execution thereof by the ministerie of that seat The truth wherof as in other places of Europe so in this our Countrey especially is euidently seene where the Lord sitting in his Assise not twise a yeare but all the whole yeare long reuengeth the shameful contempt and neglect of his truth by sending numbers to their stie or walter againe which beeing drawne into the fouldes of Christ by the preaching of the Gospell behaued themselues coldly and carelesly therein And albeit in long processe of time this only cāker of Poperie be able to eat vp the whole church yet the sinnes of our Countrey crie so loude that is to say are done so openly and so vncōtrolledly in the sight of the Lord that as if he woulde make a short hande of all he setteth vpon vs with diuerse engines at once to pull downe that which he hath so graciously builded and with diuerse axes layde euen to the roote vtterly to cutte vp that which his owne hand hath planted And to follow the former comparison as where there are great store of fellons the Iustices of Assise are faine to seuer and single themselues to make the speedier hande of them euen so through heapes of those which haue no loue of the truth in them the lord is as it were faine to erect vp other iudgement seates by the which hee may ease himselfe of them and to appoint other hangmen for their quicker dispatch to the place wherevnto they are adiudged And therefore contenteth not himself now with the heresie of the Papistes which haue beene a long time the principall sincke to receiue the outcastes of the Church nor with the heresie of the Arians and Anabaptists as it were other houses of office whereunto some of the filth of the Church hath beene discharged but stirreth vp other brandes of hell to set fire as it were in euerie corner of the Church Of this sort are the vnlouely companie of them that call themselues the Familie of loue Wherevpon it may
where the request was made by Moses to haue this glorie of GOD shewed him the Lorde promised that hee woulde make all his good goe before him it will refourme our iudgement heerein and cause vs to conceiue that it is no other visitation he meaneth here then such as his best children after their offences are forced often to feale at his handes I meane not as the Church of Rome woulde haue it that the Lord doeth thus wreake his wrath vppon them vntill they shall haue made a iust satisfaction for their sinnes but that hee doeth herein prouide that himselfe might receiue no staine by them While albeit hee bee content to bee mercifull vnto them in their sinne yet will hee reserue for all that vnto himselfe the right of a fatherly visitation to declare that he is farre from being a fauourer or friende vnto sinne In this explanation of H.N. his fayth wee heare nothing why vnto GOD there shoulde bee added this worde father and yet it were requisite since hee is called in question for his fayth by all Christian Churches planted thorowe out the whole worlde hee shoulde speake plainely to euerie principall poynt yea or no touching his agreeing or dissenting from them The cause of his silence herein is for that hee acknowledgeth no distinction of persons to be in the Godhead wheras of purpose this worde father is set downe in the Creede and Articles of our fayth to meete with that mischiefe of H.N. and others the like their errours and heresies It had beene requisite likewise since in so short a draught of Christianitie we may not thinke anie thing to bee superfluous or vnnecessarie that hee had shewed some good helpe for the strengthening of our fayth to haue come from that almightie power which the Almightie shewed in the workemanship of heauen and earth whereof there is expresse mention made to that ende in this place The Scripture doth discerne the Lord from all Idols by this alone marke of his Maiestie the Gods saith the prophet which haue not made heauē earth shal perish frō the earth frō vnder those heauens The scripture doth likewise make it a strōg fortresse of our faith which driueth out doubtfulnesse distrust as we read of Abraham that he did not doubt of the promise thorow vnbeleefe but was strong in faith because he was well assured that hee which had promised was of sufficient power and abilitie to doe it And vndoubtedly when we shal vnto anie promise of the Lorde ioyne in serious earnest consideration this remembraunce withall that it is the promise of that God who by his power out of nothing brought all the faire furniture of this world it cannot but be forcible to keepe off such doubtes of hauing the promises of God performed as fleshe and blood are full of Good reason it is therefore that H N. should not haue beene altogither silent in a matter of so great importance but of that wee heare nothing There is another matter that he shooteth at to wit after he hath affirmed God to bee a true being to proue that the same being is god the fathers name his loue it self for they are his very words Now he bringeth no other proufe of it then that of Iohn where it is sayde That God is loue but no woorde heard that his being shoulde be no other thing beside loue it selfe which is the matter that he woulde willingly establish Now this is his accustomed craftie and subtile dealing the sooner to deceyue the simple thereby hee will aduouche Scripture when hee setteth downe most absurde thinges albeit there bee no parte of his opinion established thereby It sufficeth him if there bee founde in the Scripture one of those woordes that hee vseth howe farre soeuer hee swarue in sense and meaning from the purpose of that place from whence hee taketh it For what reason is there in this to say because GOD is loue therefore his essence and beeing is loue Shall euerie thing that a man is become an essence and beeing vnto him One man is religious riche learned well fauoured temperate chaste humble charitable yet are not all these his essence and beeing For one thing cannot haue more then one essence and being And in trueth none of these can be called the essence and being of a man for there bee men that want all these and yet haue the essence being and nature of men Nowe albeit the Almightie cannot bee without loue yet therevpon it followeth not that his being is loue no more then it doth to say fire cannot be without smoke nor snow without whitenesse therefore the essence and naturall being of fire is smoke and the substancial nature and being of snow is whitenesse which is well knowne to bee most vntrue Moreouer mercie wisedome righteousnesse strength and holines al these be as neare the nature being of the Lord as is loue for as he is loue so is he wisdome righteousnes holines strength all these are absolute perfect in himselfe But if all these seuerally should be his essence being then should there be many beings natural essences of one thing nay distinct natures beings of the same thing then the which what can be more mōstrous For the Lord God is but one in essence being howsoeuer he be three in person and therfore this assertion of H. N such like which being graunted do necessarily inferre that the Lorde God is not one in nature and being are daungerous nay hereticall and blasphemous It is no new thing to haue such slender proofes from him for such straunge opinions for it is his cōmon and general practise throughout al his bookes and therefore it is assuredly true that if his religion were no better stayed and vpholden by the wealth and fatnesse of some in that familie then it is by authoritie from the Scriptures the credite thereof woulde haue beene cracked with diuerse of them long before this time I thinke H.N. hath beene his scholler who now of late hath brought to light and taught a kinde of perswasion which he calleth a princely proofe whereof hee speaketh thus Oratione persuadere non Regium sed Oratorium munus esse Regiam autem persuationem in donis ac muneribus sitam esse oportere It beseemeth not a King but an Oratour to perswade by speach for a King is to perswade by giftes and rewardes And surely H.N. his proofes are altogether Princely by rewardes and giftes as for proofes and perswasions from the scripture by worde or writing whatsoeuer shew of sufficiencie bee made that way yet in truth he is content to let that alone to poore Oratours and the meaner sort of men as ouer base and beggerly for so mightie a personage as is himselfe Touching the number of authorities that here are brought foorth this one thing I am well assured of and so will euerie man affirme that shall with anie iudgement examine the same that vnlesse
great and terrible day of the Lord of the righteous iudgemēt of God which shall burne in wrath or fire ouer all vngodly which haue dispised the loue in her seruice and requiring and refused the fatherly correction as a fire to their euerlasting condemnation in the fire of hell which is prepared for the deuill and his angels or ministers In which preseruation and extending of grace or Section 9 merciful fauour of our God sauiour God the father with the discipline of his lawe manneth himselfe according to the inward man with vs and we become like wise with the cleerenesse of his godly light wherwith all he with the law of his chastising is alwaies against vs in the sin godded or made conformable in a good willing spirit to the vpright righteousnesse with him to the end that wee through his owne beeing should beare or cary as men of God his holie name vnder the obedience of his lawe and liue and walke euen so according to the lawe or ordinaunce of his true beeing in all loue Answeare The Riddels darke speaches of H.N. I meane God willing to touch hereafter in a place proper peculiar to that matter the name of father that we may learne with Alphabetaryes first to spel and then to ioyne together signifieth his loue as appeareth by the last line of the former Section the line that went immediatly before this By plucked or plucking hee meaneth Baptising as appeareth out of the fourth Section and first line Sauiour is a preseruation in all godlinesse and noteth vnto vs an estate when men are voide and free from sinne and walke in all loue as is apparant in the 8. and 9. Section The very like being substance of his Godhead is nothing else but loue as appeareth by the last line of the 2. Section Now to ioyne these together this he affirmeth that we thorow the seruice of H.N. his holie gratious word our obedience thereunto are led of the father to the loue of Iesus Christ So that by his doctrine God the father bringeth vs no otherwise then by the hand of our owne obedience vnto the loue of Iesus Christ Our obediēce must necessarilie go before for we are to passe thorowe the seruice of the holie and gratious worde vnder the obedience of he lawe of the Lorde to the loue of his only sonne Iesus or sauiour These be his owne words And this is that which is contained in the 3. Section He describeth particularlie in the 4. Sections folowing How we becom thus preserued frō sin to walke in al loue which is our baptising in the fathers name affirming that the law of God cōmeth first with correction or discipline letting vs see sinne the deuil and the flesh their lying craftie and decietfull or false nature and God his indignation and wrath ouer the same and thereupon groweth griefe and sorrowe for sinne a minde wholly inclined to mortifie it and then they giue ouer them selues wholie to the coūsel of the holy worde and the elders in the seruice of the loue And thus are men become preuented and enformed as he saith in the 4 Section to an incorparating in the godlie righteousnesse which is this loue the walking therein These sundry Sections cannot in number compare with the errours therin contained For first in this his discourse vpon the Articles of our belief where hee was to intreate of faith he is wholie occupyed about loue and obedience vnto the law of god So that faith is nothing but deeds in his opinion Loue is beliefe beleeuing is working and louing or working is become beleeuing For he will haue our woorkes and obedience vnto the lawe to get and giue vnto vs the name of beleeuers that in so doing we may be accounted faithfull and that the same should not be a fruite of faith but faith it self So that by H N. his mystical doctrine a riddel darker then was that which Sampson propounded vnto the Philistines is put forth vnto vs to witte howe the sonne should beget the father afterwarde they two make but one man He saith that works beget faith they growe to be but one and the same thing The Scripture affirmeth faith to be the father and workes not to bee children lawfully begotten how faire soeuer they shall bee to the shewe vnlesse they proceede out of his loines So doe we reade in the Epistle to the Hebrewes where all the good woorkes of the godly fathers are fathered vppon Faith and it is said that thorow faith they wrought righteuosnesse Faith is swallowed vp of works by this doctrine For they are made all in all with H. N. he maketh no account of our perswasion of the goodnesse of our God thorowe the mercifull promises of his worde and therefore altogither leaueth that doctrine when he is euen haled vnto it by the matter which he hath in hand and falleth into the discourse of workes The Apostle Saint Iames keepeth a cleane contrary course for when he is forced by the matter he hath in hand to aduaunce woorkes to their highest degree yet doth he hide them vnder the couert of faith sauing of that principall worke of Abraham that this scripture was fulfilled in it Abraham beleeued that was reckoned vnto him for righteousnes so that it was his belief that set that price value vpon it The Apostle Paule likewise affirmeth that Abraham his beliefe was counted vnto him for righteousnes and addeth more that to him who trusteth not to his works but beleeueth in him that iustifieth the vngodly his faith is coūted for righteousnes One the same spirite cannot be Author of such diuersitie The Apostle so commendeth faith that hee affirmeth vs to be accounted righteous thorowe the same vtterly excluding woorkes for the procuring of our righteousnesse But H.N. contrarywise so aduanceth workes that he doth altogither banish faith and cause it as one that dare not shewe his face to creepe into the corner of workes and to lye couered with the garment thereof Neither is H.N. content with this spoyle of faith the chiefe treasure in our house but remembring that he left the house standing turneth backe againe to fire the same ouerthrowing the Sacramentes in like manner and wil haue our Baptisme to be no other thing then this walking in the obedience of his loue and therefore termeth it the plucking of the father or Baptising in the fathers name And that is not the least of his errours although I doe giue it the last place that hee deliuereth in the eight Section That in this communialtie of loue thorowe the seruice of the holie worde and of the fatherly correction which is the sight and misliking of sinne wee are led foorth vnto Iesus Christe to be made free from sinne preserued in godlinesse and to haue GOD manned with vs according to the inwarde man For it giueth vnto man the
holy spirit shoulde from hencefoorth worlde without ende raigne with righteousnesse vpon the earth and iudge the same with equitie according to the promises When he hath affirmed that almighty God wil lay downe their enimies vnder the feete of their Lorde and Sauiour Iesus Christ foorthwith explaning that matter more he saith And euen so in your seconde birth yeelde ouer the dominion vpon the earth vnto you and your Sauiour Iesus Christ So that it appeareth playnely he taketh their second birth to be their Sauiour For when he hath mencioned their Lorde and Sauiour the next wordes that followe be these And euen so in your seconde birth c. Sometimes this name Christ in a degree of excellencie is geuen to the oldest Father in the familie of loue because he is possessed of this estate of perfection in the highest degree and greatest measure as in the 31. chapter of his Euangelie and 14. Section where speaking of the offices and functions that were in the Churche of Rome whereof he sheweth great liking as beyng figuratiue seruices of that trueth which H.N. hath newely started he saith of the parishe Priestes Therefore they were ioyned with others in the seruice of the holy worde because they let passe the childhood or the yongnes of the holy vnderstanding grew vp according to the requiring of the seruice of loue vnto the manly agednes of Christ that is vnto the true being of the oldest holiest father For these be his owne woordes in that place Where as yee heare he calleth the manly agednesse of Christ the true being of the oldest father And to confirme the same he hath these wordes in the sixteenth Section of this chapter Herevnto serue the parish Priests as to such procurators or helpers forward of the communialties for to beare a good care ouer them and to witnesse and to teach thē daily the holy vnderstāding of Christ the oldest father where as before Christe and the Eldest Father whiche is H. N. himselfe bee by apposition made one the same person Sometimes this doctrine of H.N. for that it teacheth this state of perfectiō which is Christ leadeth men thervnto is called Christ as in the two fourtie chapter of the Gospel after H.N. and 8. Section in these words Whosoeuer now thē forsaketh himself geueth ouer himselfe obediētly in Iesu Christ the gracious word of the Lord becommeth nowe admitted or receiued in Iesu Christ and in the obedience of his requiring And likewise in his first exhortation chapter seuenth the fyrst article Section 23. in these woordes Wee confesse that no man can become partaker with all the holy ones of God of the resurrection of Christ but suche as indeuour themselues in the beliefe vnder the obedience of the loue of Iesu to become implanted into Christ the gratious worde of the Lorde and euen so then to die with Christ in his like death c. Christ and the gratious worde of the Lorde which is H. N. his doctrine are heere vnited by him and made one and the same thing which thing not onely the sense will leade you vnto but also the manner of poynting which hath no litle mystery in it For after Christ ye shall finde in his booke a full perfect point albeit the sense be yet hanging aboue the head of it there is an other point reaching forward which is a priuie marke betweene him his disciples telling them that the woorde following doth open and expounde it After the gratious woorde of the Lorde Yee see an other full and perfect point and aboue the heade of it a point looking backewarde to insinuate vnto them that the woorde behinde doeth in like manner open and declare it There is not one iodde in H.N. his Gospell that goeth for nothing For euen this Childishe toy is made a mysterie nay a miracle with manie of them Nowe whensoeuer H.N. vseth this forme of speache by Iesu Christ Hee meaneth eyther this state of perfection or else this gratious woorde of his wherein the sence will direct vs whether of the interpretations wee are to admitte off The like is to bee sayde of this forme of woordes in Iesu Christe that is in the state of perfection which his illuminate Elders doe euioy or in the gratious doctrine which hee hath brought into the worlde Christ then is nothing else but annointed and as ye haue hearde by his allegoricall exposition is geuen to all that are come to that infection he calleth it Perfection which was spoken of before to wit whē they haue done with Aaron and the seruiceable word and haue met with their Melchisedech who doth all to berubbe their heades with reuelations and as for their conuersation telleth them whatsoeuer their doinges be they are no longer now to be said or accompted to haue any sinne in them Now to colour his doings he speaketh of al the vpright children of the beliefe that are thus annointed in the singular number as of one bodie that his young disciples should not smel out his heresie at the first but remaine still of this opinion that when he speaketh of Christ hee meaneth no other beside that same one person whereof the Scripture speaketh which is both God and man Whereas in truth he comprehendeth vnder that name all that multitude or number howe many soeuer who haue to diet from H.N. this roste meate of reuelations It appeareth by this whiche hathe beene sayde that H.N. his Christ is not GOD but an affection or disposition in man which if it were good were yet no more but godlinesse not GOD himselfe But wee haue hearde manifestly prooued vnto vs before that of necessitie the mediatour and redeemer of man must be GOD himselfe And therefore this miserable man pulleth vppe the doctrine of our saluation by the rootes His doctrine of Christ is declared yet more playnely if possibly that may be in that allegory which he maketh of Esau and Iacob in the nienth Chapter of his Euangelie Where he affirmeth that the righteousnesse of the Lawe with the great knowledge of the fleshe or of the earthly being which is borne out of the letter and hath to name Adam Esau or Edom must serue the little single minded simplicitie which is borne out of the spirite or heauenly being He affirmeth in the 8. Section of that chapter That those who liue vnder the obedience of loue that is his family doe openly perceiue these two birthes in themselues The first birth is when we vnderstande the worde according to the letter and are reaching or striuing to atteine to the perfection which his illuminated elders are possessed of And this birth hee calleth in this Section The right knowledge of man out of the fleshe or letter the seede that is borne according to the fleshe and hath no inheritance in the promises And in the tenth Section hee calleth it the minde of the fleshe which is named Adam Esau or Edō the knowledge
which not onely H.N. but all other Heretikes professe of hauing our sinnes answered by and in our selues either wholy or at least in some part that the verie figures shoulde haue light sufficient in them to driue awaye all darkenesse and doubting herein But what lighte can make him see that is blinde or open those eyes that in iust iudgement are closed vp by the Lorde H.N. And hath suffered in all obedience of the word of his heauenly father the death of the crosse in reproch blasphemie contempt and false defamation or accusation for our sinnes cause Answere The name of Christe as you haue hearde is giuen by H. N. vnto all his illuminate Elders as vnto those who haue atteyned vnto an estate of perfection by meanes of their obedience vnto his doctrine Whome howe manie soeuer hee comprehendeth vnder one name and speaketh of them as of one person It is giuen also as you haue hearde by speciall prerogatiue vnto the eldest Elder that is H. N. himselfe The suffering of this Christ his death of the crosse is set forth in this that he hath yelded all obedience to the worde of his heauenly father which is this doctrine of H.N. and gone vnder and borne reproch blasphemie contempt and false defamation or accusation for the same Thus hath H. N. his Christ suffered the death of the Crosse in that himselfe and his illuminate elders could neither by their owne affections nor yet by the reproch and contempt of others be brought from this doctrine and seruice of loue which thing is confirmed in the. 20. Chapter of this his first exhortation and third Section in these wordes Against these assaultings the man ought in his yongnesse to learne to take vp his crosse on him to follow after Christ his Sauiour in his like suffering or death of the crosse and to shewe forth pacience with Christ against all the assaultings vntil that al the enemies or aduersaries of the louely life through the death of Christ that is in maner of suffering be vtterly vanquished and that he euen so is growne vp thorow the death or togither suffering of Christ which is the dayly oblation in the holy to the olde age of the man Christ and entred thorow the secōd birth from the dead into the euerlasting life which passage or way to the euerlasting life we haue witnessed and figured forth distinctly and clearly in the figure of the true and spirituall tabernacle and in other moe places in the glasse of righteousnesse The yong scholler in this scoole of Loue whome hee calleth the man in his yongnesse is as you heare to follow Christ that is H.N. and those illuminate elders in his like suffering and death of the crosse So that Christ had no other suffering or death of the Crosse then the yongest scholler in H.N. his schoole must suffer go vnder and that is nothing else as he sayth in this place but to shewe foorth pacience against all assaultings vntill all the aduersaries of this louely life by this maner of suffering become vtterly vanquished and hee growne vp to the olde age of the man Christ that is a perfect and absolute elder And therefore in his two next sections hee exhorteth them that it shoulde not bee tedious vnto them to shewe foorth this pacience and to abide this death of the Crosse for a little time in bearing the assaultes of those enemies who woulde turne them from the good will they haue to this godly being vnder the obedience of the loue and doeth promise vnto them that after a little time of this their distresse affliction and anguish the Lorde will bring his Christ that is as he there sayth his best beloued and most holy being vnto them in power and glorie In the 26. and 27. Sections of this Chapter he doeth in plaine wordes declare that while a man is in this yongnesse and not fully setled in the doctrine and seruice of loue but subiect to anguishe and affliction with temptations and assaultes eyther with himselfe or from others that would drawe him from the same and with griefe for his stumbling or falling by meanes thereof then is he suffering with Christ vpon the Crosse for the redemption of his sinnes These bee his wordes in that place Wherfore when as now your stumbling and falling becommeth dayly figured very great and horrible before you and that yee for that cause beeing wofull of heart feele yet the pricking of the sinne the dartes of the death and the condemnation of the hell or beare the same with anguish in your hearts yet feare not nor be dismaied in your heartes but shewe foorth pacience and followe after Christ in his suffering for those are the dayes of affliction heauinesse and death wherein Christ hath gone before you in the holy for to prepare you through the same death of the crosse the euerlasting forgiuenesse and redemption of sinnes as there is before sayde Where you may painely see that H.N. his Christ in his yongnesse as hee calleth it was a sinner and was wofull in his heart for his stumbling and falling are woful in heart he sayeth Those are the dayes of affliction and heauinesse wherein Christ hath gone before you for to prepare you through the same death of the crosse the euerlasting forgiuenesse and redemption of sinnes And if yet some more specialtie touching the death of H.N. his Christ be asked after that shal be the sooner answered if we call to remembrance that which was vttered before out of the 9. Chap. of the Euangelie and tenth Section to witte that the knowledge after the letter and the obedience vnto the same is the first birth and the knowledge of Christ after the flesh which must bee crucified and put to death that the lawfull heire which is after the spirit spirituall and heauenly may take place comparing it with that which is written in the 21. Chapter of his Euangelie in these woordes Forasmuch nowe as that in times past the clearenesse of Christ through the holy ghost was yet vnknowne vnto the vpright and faythful disciples of Iesus Christ whilest that they knew him not otherwise but after the fleshe so was it therefore needefull that Christ should keepe the Pascha or Passeouer with them for that cause the Lord Iesus caused the same to be prepared him for to keepe the Passeouer with his Disciples in the true beeing and tolde them before of his suffering and Passeouer and that they must also doe the like if they woulde come to his clearenesse in the heauenly being with his father Therfore hee gaue them to vnderstande in what maner his Passeouer should be to wit that he namely Christ after the flesh should be slaine and euen so accomplish according to the true being the true God seruice with the gifte or offering of his fleshe in the holy namely on the true aultar of the holie offring which is his crosse whereon he died in the beleefe herewith Christ
all loue annoynted blessed and elected to a sanctified bride of Christ shee becommeth named one holy communialty of holie ones which is the holie conioyned body of the bodie of Iesu Christ We confes that this same one holy comunialtie which becommeth euen so as is aboue said incorporated through the loue into the bodie of Iesu Christ as one bodie with him and baptized in his sauing health is the true Christianitie and the vpright holie churche of Iesu Christ Wherevnto all people shoulde of right assemble them vnder the obedience of the loue to their blessing and saluation according to the promises For she is God maiesty or the true house of the loue for his dwelling wherein God will haue mercie on all people Who so nowe therefore assembleth him not vnder the obdiēce of the loue vnto the same holy Church of Iesu Christ neither yet submitteth him humbly vnder the same maiestie of GOD but contemneth the righteousnesse of GOD and the spiritual giftes riches of Christ so turneth away him self from the communialtie of the loue the chosen holy ones of God he sheweth that hee is false of hearte and standeth minded agaynst GOD and his holie Church and bringeth euen so the iudgement of his condemnation ouer himselfe Answeare H.N. professeth here that this sect is the true and onely Church of Christ incorporated through loue to Christ wherevnto all people shoulde of right assemble themselues to their blessing and saluation because she is Gods Maiestie for these be his owne wordes Hee professeth likewise that whosoeuer turneth himselfe away from this communialtie of the loue hee bringeth euen so the iudgement of his condemnation ouer himselfe In many places of this booke he flatly condemneth all people that are not of this secte hee affirmeth their estate to hee a false beyng the Diuell the Antichrist the wicked spirit the kingdome of Hell the maiestie of the Diuell himselfe they are his verie woordes in the fifteenth Chapter of his first exhortation I will not stand long vpon this point but content my selfe onely with two testimonies and those taken out of this and the next chapter whereby euery man may easily perceiue what his iudgement is both of the Preachers and people wheresoeuer or howe many soeuer that are not of his familie Thus he speaketh in the fifteenth Chapter of his first Exhortation and tenth Section The vnilluminated vnsent teachers busie and apply them very earnestly about the profounde knowledge of the Scriptures or high vnderstandinges according to the pleasing either contentation of men or about a paynted holines or false righteousnes according to the fleshe or outwarde appearance that hath before the fleshly minded a shewe of righteousnes but inwardly their nature or minde is full of iniquitie and full of all false witnessinges against God his gratious woorde and his Ministers and they are not else what but a nest of Diuelles and of all wicked Spirites Therefore surely the riches of the knowledge in all false heartes of the Scripture-learned and in all presumptuous or arrogant selfe wise is the false spirite of Antichrist which through his shew of outwarde holines and great knowledge in the Scripture worketh a secrete iniquitie and esteemeth himselfe as more worthie then the loue and her seruice and aboue the wisedome of God or the vpright life to be the spirit of the ful wisedom it self And in the sixteenth Chapter which is the next following and seuenteenth Section he confirmeth his iudgement in these woordes Therefore it is assuredly al false lies seducing and deceitful what the vngodly or vnilluminated men out of the imaginatiō or riches of their own knowledg out of the learnednes of the Scriptures bring foorth institute preache and teache They preache in deed the letter imaginatiō of their knowledge but not the word of the liuing god Seing then they haue not fulfilled obediently the first entrance into the doctrine of the gratious word yet neuerthelesse with free hearts presumptuosly boast them to haue and to vse all what is brought geuē out of grace to the holieones of God in the communialtie of the loue lie or erre therein so is doubtlesse all their doing word that they vse out of the free mindednes of their heat a false freedom out the false light the imagination of the knowledge all their congregation let thē esteeme thēselues so holy as they will a false Christianity and Deuilles Synagogue or schoole For there is none other cōmunialtie of holie ones or true Christianitie but the communialty of holy ones in the loue of Iesu Christ al such as adioyne thē thervnto and grow vp vnder the obedience of the loue in the same loue to elders of the holy godly vnderstanding His woordes can no waye be arrested so but that any man who shall read them may see and plainly perceiue that he thinketh of al that are not of his familie imbracing his doctrine adioyning themselues to that number as of a false christianitie a diuels sinagogue or schole they be his owne woordes euen now cited as you haue hearde It is very expedient therefore to examine what trueth there is in this his assertion The true Church of Christ resteth vpon Christ and his obedience H.N. his familie resteth vpon the law and their obedience yeelded vnto the same for that is their Christ and all the meanes of saluation that they doe acknowledge as doeth plainely appeare by that which hath beene spoken afore of their Christ Wee may therefore say vnto them with the Apostle ye are abolished from Christ who soeuer are iustified by the law ye are fallen from grace The Church of Christ is Abraham his seede and therfore as he was so they be heires by promise H.N. his familie commeth to all their happinesse by their own paines proper purchase therfore fallen frō grace and lye vnder the curse of God For so many as are of the workes of the law are vnder the curse saith the Apostle In the true Church of Christ the iusi man who because he is iust cannot be voyde of the fruites of righteousnesse and true holinesse yet leaneth he not to that his labour as now beeing altogither free from imperfection but liueth by his faith and resteth in the mercy of his God according as it is written by the Apostle The iuste shall liue by faith But in this Familie there iust men leaue and let goe all faith and credite in the goodnesse of any other and will liue by their owne laboure This sanctification and holinesse of the Church of Christe albeit it be sounde and sincere yet is it neuer perfect and absolute in this life without sinne and imperfection at all For we doe reade in the Gospell after Saint Iohn that braunches euen all of those without exception which bring forth fruite be in no other estate but that they haue in
them notwithstanding matter of necessitie to be purged that so they may bring foorth more fruite Euery braunch that beareth fruite he purgeth it that it may bring foorth more fruite and therfore doe we say in the next Article that we doe beleeue the forgiuenesse of sinnes but the sanctification and holynesse of H.N. his Church and Familie as they say is perfect euen in this life The members of the true Church bee braunches of that true Vine Christ and haue from thence their sappe strength to beare but the fellowes of this Familie haue all their sappe in them selues for they doe not acknowledge originall sinne nor yet the doctrin of our free election in Christ and therefore must of necessitie with Pelagius plant grace generally in our nature and so consequently confesse that we haue our sap in our selues H.N. The tenth Article Wee beleeue the forgiuenesse of sinnes namely in the same communialty of holy ones which standeth grounded in thssame vpright and godly beliefe of Iesu Christ and becommeth baptized in that same holie beeing of GOD aboue rehearsed and where the loue hath obtained the victory Wee confesse also that no man shall obtaine grace or forgiuenesse of sinnes at Gods hand without thissame holie communialtie of Christ For thissame is the holy Christianitie the familie of Loue wherein GOD himselfe dwelleth liueth and walketh and the true communialtie of Israell which reigneth with God and Christ ouer all her enemyes Answeare Hee that calleth to minde that doctrine which H.N. which hath set foorth before in his exposition vpon the 4. Article shall plainely perceiue that remission and forgiuenesse of sinnes is nothing else but to bee set free from sinning any more against God and that not to be attained vnto any otherwise then by following his Christ in the death of the crosse vnder the obedience of the loue Which opinion is confirmed in his Euangelie Chapter 30. Section 6. The clensing which is called Purgatory signifieth vnto vs the making pure of the beleeuers of Christ which they in distresse affliction sorrowe and anguish for the sinnes cause doe passe thorowe wherein they as in a fire of humiliation are purged or iustified from all their sinnes through the beliefe for to enter euen so with pure heartes into the kingdome of the GOD of heauēs In which fire of clensing or Purgatory the vpright beleeuers of Christ shew foorth patience in prayer vnto God and euen so in the beliefe and in manner of suffering they followe after Christ in his death of the crosse to the purging of their sinnes And the 28 Chapter of that same booke and first Section this his opinion is likewise established These be his woordes Whilst nowe the children of men cleaued vnto the vpright faith of Abraham which was of one beeing with the true light of life or grounded themselues therein and euen so obediently suspected the seruice of the beliefe administred out of the true light which is Christ himselfe in his requiring exercised them therein and onely gaue eare and had regarde vnto the ministers of the holie word which had kept the Passeouer with Christ out of the flesh into the spirit out of death into life were euen so implanted into Christ coedified with God and also beeing obedient vnto the worde in his requiring bide stedfast therein vntill that they had also kept the passouer with Christ and obtayned the renewing of their spirit and mind in Iesu Christ the which is the vpright supper or Pascha wherein men rightly eate the body of Christ drinke his bloode are partakers of his suffering and baptized in his death vnto his burying and euen so remember the suffering of Christ and witnesse or publish his death till vnto his comming that is vntill the true light arise in the heart so were they made safe iustified from their sinnes renewed in the spirit of their minde and sanctified in Christ to fellow members of his body to coheires in the riches of God his father in the euerlasting life This doctrine which maketh man his owne Sauiour and redeemer is plentifully confuted in the fourth Article wherevnto I refer the reader A man would not imagine that they could attempt so much mischieuous matter against vs and our saluation euen then when they giue vs no worse woordes then the holie Ghost doth vse For heere are heard no other wordes then wordes of pardon and forgiuenesse and yet there is no other matter in hand thē matter of purchasing and paying for our saluation But no marueile if H.N. who before was sufficiently prooued to bee Iudas doe nowe kisse when he meaneth to kill and in woords putteth vs in hope of a pardon when in deede is drift is to haue vs pay the vtmost farthing In the tenth Chapter to the Hebrues it is plainely prooued that euen those his deare and best beloued Children in whose heartes and mindes himselfe hath written his owne lawes haue in them notwithstanding matter to be pardoned and forgiuen After those dayes saieth the Lorde I will put my lawes in their heart and in their mynde I will write them and their sinnes and iniquities I will remember no more The place is alleadged out of the Prophete Ieremye I wil make an euerlasting couenant with them that I will neuer turne away from them to doe them good but I will put my feare in their hearts that they shall not departe from me These people to whome the Lorde hath made this large and liberall promise that they shall enioy such a portion of his feare as shal be able to kepe thē from departing from him these I say that haue and enioy such a measure of mercy from the Lorde haue all this notwithstanding in that their estate sinnes to be pardoned and that with one offering for all neuer after to be renued With one offering hath he cōsecrated for euer saith the holie Ghost them that be sanctified And againe Where remission of these things is there is nowe no more offering for sinne If one offering consecrate for euer them that be sanctified then are there not so many offeringes to consecrate withall as there be persons sanctified which is the doctrine of H.N. If one offering consecrate for euer them that be sanctified then H. N. and his Familie are not sanctified because they refuse that one offering which the Lord hath appointed thereby to consecrate for euer them that are sanctified and haue erected in steade therof a continuall offering and oblation for sinne wherin euery man must play the Prieste for himselfe And therefore albeit he affirme words that there is remission and forgiuenesse of sinne in his Familie yet in trueth it is otherwise for where there is remission of sinne there is no more offering for sinne Nowe in H. N. his Familie there is more offering for sinne and therfore there is among them no remission of sinne The Prophete Dauid affirmeth that because the
hearts which hope on God and on his righteousnesse and beare the loue of God and Christ in their hearts to the end that they all which loue God and his Christ mought now liue louely and peaceably in the same rest with all the holy ones of God and Christ in all loue which most holy the most pure perfect beautie his vpright and gracious seruice of loue we haue receiued or atteined vnto now in this last time wherin we inherite the fulnesse of the life to an euerlasting ioy with God and his Christ And that same most holy his seruice of loue reacheth also no further but it is the perfection it selfe for that cause the seruice of loue which the Lord hath erected with vs little ones elected ones shal stand fast euerlastingly in his ministration and remaine for euer according to the Scripture This seruice of loue as H.N. doth here declare is the perfection it selfe which shall stande fast euerlastingly in his ministration and remain for euer according to the scripture and he that liueth obediently in this seruice of the loue is alreadie ouer head and eares in the ioyes of heauen H.N. his heauen that is builded here vpon earth hath beene ouerthrowne before in the confutation of his title I meane not therefore to haue any other dealing against it before I shall be fully certified that eyther it is builded higher or else that the foundation is made surer onely this I desire that the eyes of this family may be opened so to see the true happinesse laid vp in heauen for the faithfull as that they may growe into a true detestation of all those who teach no other ioyes to be there then such that are felt and perceyued in this life A confutation of H.N. his estate of perfection THat which in this doctrine of H.N. is all in all according to the trueth of God his worde is not at all to be founde among men I meane his estate of perfection which with him is Christ the holy Ghost the resurrection and the euerlasting life and what is it not Now he imagineth that his illuminate men haue profited so well in godlinesse that they sinne no more A doctrine which the whole course of the Scripture doth vtterly ouerthrow For the scope and drift of the worde of God is to leaue all flesh indebted vnto the goodnesse of God that he who will glorie may glorie in the Lorde And therefore it doeth in many places teach and declare that sinne and imperfection is in all men In manie thinges sayeth the Apostle Saint Iames we offende all The Apostle doth not exempt anie man no not himselfe from sinne and offence against God in this his doctrine Whervnto accordeth that saying of Saint Iohn If we say that we haue no sinne wee deceiue our selues and the trueth is not in vs. When the Apostles and pillers of the Church of GOD acknowledge themselues to bee sinners hee cannot bee guided with that spirite which did speake in them who shall denie him selfe and others to offende at all They alledge for them that saying of Saint Iohn Whosoeuer is borne of God sinneth not and that likewise He that committeth sinne is of the Deuill To the which I answere according to that principle which is begonne and grounded vpon reason which also our vsuall speach and practise doeth continue that the whole doeth beare the name after that which is principall in the thing And therefore when men haue dealinges in diuerse trades they alwayes beare the name after that which is principall The Marchaunt who hath a house in the Countrey and some dealinges in husbandrie is notwithstanding called a Marchant and not an husbandman because it is the chiefe and principall thing which he trauaileth in and whereby his especiall maintenaunce doeth growe The wine which is mingled with water hath to name wine and not water because wine is the principall and chiefe part And that lumpe which hath great store of drosse is named notwithstanding of that golde which is in it howe little soeuer the quantitie thereof shall happen to bee because it is principall in value and accompt So that whether we shall compare quantitie with quantitie or qualitie with qualitie the principall shall alwayes beare away the name And therefore no maruaile if the Euangelist shall say that he is of the Deuill who committeth sinne because here hee disputeth not of one or some fewe actions that breake out of a man but of that which is principall in a man For hee draweth all men to these two heades either to bee borne of GOD or of the Deuill According to this doctrine doeth the Apostle exhort vs saying Let not sinne raigne in your mortall bodies for if sinne bee principall beare rule and reigne in anie they giuing themselues as seruauntes thereunto wee may lawfully say of such with the Apostle that they are of the Deuill as contrariwise when anie shall humble themselues to those dueties which are sette downe to vs in the worde of GOD so as that course of life shall bee chiefe and principall in them though in manie particular actions they shall be found offenders yet may they all this notwithstanding be said to be borne of GOD and not to sinne because it is not in them as ruler and principall but as a slaue and vnderling and therefore not able to beare the name When the contention is as nowe for principalitie rule According to this distinction we do finde in the scriptures graces denied vnto sinners when sinne is in rule and gouernement which are not denied when it is in subiection and seruice In the Gospell after Saint Iohn it is thus written touching sinne when it is principal and gouerneth â–ª We know that God heareth not sinners And in the Epistle it is plainly set downe concerning sinne when yet it is in vs though not ruler ouer vs that if wee acknowledge our sinnes he is faithfull iust to forgiue vs our sinnes We doe find likewise in other places because of this diuersitie diuerse and distinct things vttered touching sinne For in the Epistle of Saint Iohn it is there said He that committeth sinne is of the Deuil And in the first Chapter of that Epistle the Apostle affirmeth plainly of himselfe and of all the seruants of God who liue here in this world that if we say we haue no sinne we do deceiue our selues and trueth is not in vs. So diuerse speaches vttered in the Scripture of sinne must of necessitie force vs according as the godly and learned of all times haue done before vs thus to distinguish the same For the further warrant of this doctrine which giueth the name of the whole vnto that which is not yet whole and perfect because of a speciall studie trauaile profiting therein and contending thervnto consider I pray you of that which is written by the Apostle who when he had before confessed that he had
there is no lewdenes nor frowardnesse in them they are al plaine to him that wil vnderstand streight to him that would finde knowlege Which thing also is confirmed in the last verse of the Prophet O sea wherevnto accordeth Augustine Diuinitus visum est vt sacra oracula simplici perspicuo exararentur dictionis genere ne praetendere quisquā possit nihil a se in illis intelligi It was thought good vnto almighty God that the Scriptures shoulde be penned in a simple and plaine kinde of speache least any man might pretende that hee coulde vnderstande nothing in them And in the same place hee speaketh yet more playnely vnto the same ende in these woordes Modus ipse dicendi quo sacra Scriptura contexitur ea quae aperta sunt quasi amicus Familiaris sine fuco ad cor loquitur indoctorum atque doctorum ea vero quae in mysteriis occultat nec ipse eloquio superbo eregit quo non audeat accedere mens tardiuscula inerudita quasi paupet ad diuitem sed inuitat omnes humili sermone quos non solum manifesta pascat sed etiam secreta exerceat veritate hoc in promptis quod in reconditis habens sed ne apertè fastiderentur eadem rursus operta desiderantur desiderata quodāmomodo renouantur renouata suauiter intimantur Augustine affirmeth in these woordes that the fourme of speaking with the Scripture vseth euen in the parables and darkest places thereof creepeth so lowe vppon the grounde that not onely an vnlearned man but euen a dull heade may reache vnto it And touching the matter conteyned in those parables and darke speaches hee affirmeth it to be no other then that which is in plaine wordes deliuered elsewhere in the Scripture neither hath the holie Ghost any other meaning in speaking that darkely and in parables which before was deliuered in plaine speache as hee saith but to keepe contempt from the woorde which through our corruption continuall plainnesse and familiaritie casteth vppon it and that we might so bring a newe and fresh desire and appetite vnto the same thing which in an other forme commeth as it were a newe and freshe vnto vs. Now as for H N. hee is farre from this lowe stile that creepeth in the most difficult matters vpon the grounde for when hee is the lowest most neere vnto vs he is at the least soaring in the middle region of the ayre and verie often a man shall not meete with him no not if hee were rapte into the thirde heauen so mysticall is his meaning Whereby we may easily see and perceiue that H.N. is not guided and conducted with that spirite who hath penned the Scriptures in so playne and simple a stile as inuiteth euen the simplest sort to resort thither As H.N. doth imitate ancient Heretiks in Allegories so doeth he likewise in his darke and straunge forme of spelaking Marcitae a kinde of Heretikes whō Augustine maketh mencion of in his booke of heresies who affirmed themselues to be perfect and wherein H. N. is a faithfull follower of them denied the resurrection of the bodie did with a darke and straunge stile so astonie the simple people that woondering at the matter because it was aboue their capacitie they yeelded vnto it as vnto an oracle lately come from heauen Touching the stile which the first Authour thereof one Marcus vsed thus I finde it written Obscurissime quibusdam verborum tanquā mysteriorum inuolucris vtens loquebatur de Deo vt stuperent audientes homines potius quam intelligerent Hebreae quoque linguae fuit peritus itaque vocabulis Hebraeis Graecis hominibus exoticis deliria sua tegebat He did speake darkely and vsed such a wrapping kinde of woordes that the hearers were rather astonied with the strangenes of the words then edified with any vnderstanding they had of the meaning therof and his heresies and doating dreames he couered with Hebrue Greeke words among thē who were ignorāt of of these tongues Who seeth not here the playne picture of H. N. both in the darkenesse of his writing and in the making of al his misteries w are coyned by a certain foolish doting deriuation of names from the Hebrues The Libertines likewise had a picked kinde of speache which one thing that worthie instrument in Christ his Church Master Caluine did so mislike of as being an infallible note of iugling and craftie conueying that hee willeth al men to cut them of here at the first eyther to haue them leaue their pedlars Frenche speaking playnely and simply as the Scripture doeth or else to let them talke vnto themselues as men not meete to haue any audience among those schollers who haue bene trayned vp in the playne and simple teaching of the Scriptures FINIS A Confutation of the doctrine of Dauid George and H. N. the father of the Familie of loue By M. Martyn Micronius Minister of the woorde in the Dutche Churche at London vnder Edward the vi of blessed memory King of England taken out of his booke concerning holy assemblies whiche hee wrote in Latine a litle before his death at Nord in East Freeslande which also afterwards M. Nicholas Carinaeus set foorth publiquely in printe certaine thinges being added vnto it translated woorde for woorde into Englishe IT is not fayth but a certaine faithlesse and arrogant falling awaye from GOD and a meere deceipt of the Deuil to faine that Idolatrie superstition and outwarde vices are free and pure vnto them which vnder the pretence of a certaine fayth and inwarde puritie boast that they knowe no sinne in the heart Into which gulfe of execrable errour are fallen not onely those which are commonly called Libertines and those that follow Dauid George who reiecting Iesus Christ foolishly fained vnto him selfe a certaine immortalitie in this earth which he hoped to purchase with the sword for those that were his but in vaine they beeing already dead buried but also those euyll Chickens which are hatched of that euyll egge who this daye deceiue the worlde vnder the amiable title of a certaine peace gloriyng that they haue founde the house and region of loue in which all differences of good euil being taken away al things besides loue are free Out of which house of peace they feine it lawfull for theirs to goe into the regions of the worlde and as they say safely to goe through them which is that they may colourably and dissemblingly applie thēselues to the manners wordes and deedes of al other men which yet belong not to that house of peace Heereof it commeth that they mocke in their minds and contemne all separation from the impure sacrifices and ceremonies of the Romish Churche and so consequently all waightie profession of any religion and outwardly ioyne them selues to all religious and wicked factes vnlesse they bee witheld from thence through the feare of daunger or some hope of commoditie But howe execrable this errour is
excellencie of the priesthood of Christ Therefore not vnfitly is it here called perfection of Paule which perfection hee leaueth not at all to bee declared afterwardes muche lesse too Dauid George or any others but hee promiseth that hee wil doe it Heb. 6. a. 3. which he most happily performeth in the Chapters following vnto the eleuenth Now we haue proued that the doctrine of Christ is to remaine in the Church of God continually as a doctrine which is most perfect notwithstanding that which belongeth to the manner of reuealing and perfection of the same in the faithfull to be wrought in heauen where Christ our lord shal make al his enimies subiect vnto him and further more that to be more vain then vanitie it self with our aduersaries boast of the absolute perfection of theyr doctrine But if further they will yet continue to dispute that a more perfect doctrine then that of Christe is to bee looked for then I woulde haue them by euident tokens to prooue vnto me that their doctrine is it neyther any other againe to be looked for For Dauid George hath boasted that his was the most perfect doctrine now that preacher of the house of loue succeeding him reiecting that of Dauid attributeth the same to his doctrine and agayne another may also conceiue to him selfe the like dreame Therefore wee desire that they woulde with as plaine argumentes prooue their doctrine too bee the moste perfect as Christ our Lorde hath approued his If neuerthelesse they will still pretende that perfection which wee looke for at the comming of Christ then wee desire that they woulde in very deede performe al those things which with vndoubted faith we looke for of Christ Iesus at his comming To wit that their bodies may bee glorious like the body of Christ spiritual celestial not any longer subiect to the miseries of hunger thirst wearines sicknes age and death That their women may beare and bring forth their children without griefe of wombe that all vngodlines being taken away onely righteousnes may raigne that without the helpe of bookes admonitions and such like things which are dayly vsed they may obteine the full knowledge of heauenly thinges and finally that they woulde restore all thinges lost in Adam But as long as they performe not these suche like thinges as assuredly they cannot it plainly appeareth that it is a mere beewitching of the minde or rather an extreme madnes to beleeue such spirites FINIS T. D The iudgement of an other godly learned man touching the same matter MY very deere good freende I cannot answere you so fully as I would in the matter you demanded of me touching mine opiniō of that sort of men that name thēselues the Family of loue my tyme is abridged and my businesses are many yet I must say somthing because you did so friēdly request it How much I may know of the opinions of that sect some can witnes with me that haue been acquainted with my conference had with some of them and with the reading of a good part of their writings But how much soeuer it bee this may suffise to iustifie me before the godly men of vnderstanding for my dislyke of them their heresie that they diguyse themselues with a coūterfait tytle making profession of one thing in woord another thing in trueth deede They terme them selues the family of loue but their meaning is that they bee more thē the Familie euē the loue it self for though they agre not alwayes in al places with themselues sometyme they take this word loue as is stādeth for loue in deed yet in other places they take it after the woordes of Iohn where he saith God is loue so making themselues not the householde of God but god himselfe This they vouch in many places of their writings in saying that they are deified that is made and become gods God is hominified that is made man not meaning of the incarnacion of Christ but as they expresse in another place saying that Adam was al that God was God al that Adā was which woords besides that they contayne blasphemy in them selues so are they made couers to abuse the simple yet for al that this may not bee their name whereby they wil be called that is they wil not be called gods nor goddified nor loue but only the Family of loue Thinking by this meanes sooner to allure the simple whereas otherwise if they should in title themselues Gods desire to be so called they would cause al the worlde to abhorre and detest them as they iustly deserue This name is but a new coate shapen of some bodging workman that knew not how to take the true measure of their bodie their olde coate becommeth them better They are in truth the Libertines those ancient loose lyuers for they lyue as they lyst no law of God or man to controll them as men vnder no law for they are men in deede as they professe beleeue them if you wil that cannot sinne And therfore of the law they make none account the Gospel serueth them to as little purpose they take scorne to aske forgiuenes of sinnes at Gods hands yea they say that whosoeuer prayeth as Christ hath taught vs argueth himselfe of imperfection Christ gaue that precept to his disciples whē they wer yonglinges before they had receiued the holy Ghost after those abundant graces receiued and as they expounde it after that they were deified it is not to be foūd they euer prayed And as their opinion is for prayer so is the practise of their lyfe they hold they may doe all things yea the grossest sinnes that wee make account of and yet in doing cōmitting them they cannot sinne How we may accoūpt of them S. Iohn telleth vs He that saith he hath no sinne is a lyer if they went no further they were lyers but he that saith hee cannot sinne what rekoning shal we make of him This is their loue and their louely sect And while they stand thus affected for the second table is there any meruaile that they stand as euilly minded in the first They cary lyke minds towards al religions whatsoeuer the Turk the Iewe the Barbariā the Papist the Arriā the Pelagiā as wel welcome to them as the professors of the trueth of God they say we haue marred al with making these differences were it not for these diuersities of names whereby we maintaine dissentions their familie would be spred ouer the face of the whole earth And surely I beleeue it for if all men could be perswaded that sinne were no sinne if the iudgemēts of God were remoued from their eyes hearts if they coulde so basely esteeme of Christ and saluation wrought by him as these men doe if they could be perswaded that there were no neede of inuocation and exercise of godlynes I doubt not but the whole worlde woulde quickly become a louely familie I coulde
them then of the common sort euen such as a louing father doeth of his owne sonne Moreouer their sinnes are seldome or neuer in their sight I meane with this consideration that in iustice they doe deserue not onely the stopping of the course of his grace but euen to haue let in vppon them the floudes of his wrath Which thing if it were truely seene could not but sette a great price vpon those benefites that come in ouer such desertes The minde of the giuer commendeth not the gift with them for they see not so farre they ioyne them not as seales to his letters of free grace I meane to the free graunt of his grace notwithstanding wee bee forewarned of this deuiding of them and so straightly charged to vnite them Beware least thou saye in thine heart my power and the strength of mine owne hand prepared me this aboundance but remember the Lorde thy god For it is he which giueth the power to gette substance to establish his couenant which he sware vnto thy fathers as appeareth this day Is it not a great villanie to taste so liberally of his benefites and yet to perswade vs so sparingly of his good will to haue so friendly dealing with his giftes and so little liking of him self that when we haue deuoured so manie benefits we shoulde inquire of the Almightie who he is that wee shoulde serue him as if yet we had seene nothing to binde our seruice vnto him Can there be more vnkindenesse then in so manie benefits bestowed to gaine no good will so manie benefites to be let out and no good will to come in with them againe That wee may the more clearely see into his good will and free mercie through his benefits we must be brought back now then vnto our sinnes and the iust desertes thereof For then shall we recken them to be benefites in deede when we see what doings they haue succeeded and beene ioyned withall Thus allayeth Moses the pride of the people of Israel and getteth GOD his due honour among them in the ninth of Deut. Speake not thou in thy heart after the Lorde thy God hath cast them out before thee saying for my righteousnesse the Lorde hath brought mee in remember and forgette not howe thou prouokest the Lorde GOD to anger in the Wildernesse since the day thou diddest depart out of the lande of Egypt vntill yee came vnto this place ye haue rebelled against the Lord. He calleth to minde sundrie of their grieuous transgressions particularly reciting the time and the place By these rules let vs trie who in matters of any weight layd vpon them by the Lord are lyke to returne this answere Who is the Lord that I should serue him Euen so manie as doe finde no sweetnesse nor taste in him by his benefites as are no more confirmed by his blessings in his fatherly affection towardes them such as get thereby no strength of fayth such as doe not holde themselues the more bounde vnto him as are not the more delighted in him as are not the more desirous to walke worthie of him as finde not their heart the more ioyfull in him as finde them no better minded to his lawe to the which hee hath set ouer his owne loue euen those I saye that dwell in the benefites and so they haue their desire they holde that their heauen and their happinesse that looke no further then the benefite that stay vpon it and inquire no further whether God doe loue them and is become a father vnto them so as they may account vpon his benefites as giftes from a louing father those that thinke themselues then to vse his benefites best when God and all goodnesse is the furthest from their minde those that can finde no taste in these temporall blessings vnlesse the mention of him who giueth the taste and sauour vnto them be indented and conditioned withall to depart farre from them for that time which they haue to vse them those that will neuer set their sinnes in sight that they may further the account of the benefite and the good will of the benefactour Wee must denie this vngodlinesse that yet demaundeth Who is the Lord that we shoulde serue him after so long vse of his benefites Now would I know where we might haue a place for them that are lesse acquainted with him then they were manie yeares a goe who haue lesse comfort in his worde lesse Religion lesse obedience lesse good conuersation as for them that take his benefits and with them doe warre against him the place is taken vp alreadie in the nethermost pit if the Lord giue not great repentāce therfore brethren for Gods cause let vs hastē our better acquaintance with him who by benefits hath so lōg time cōmended him selfe vnto vs let it be our shame that he should thus long be a stranger vnto vs that of so long time hath had so louing dealing with vs Let vs ioy more in his delightes set our hartes more vpon that he commaundeth and commendeth vnto vs so shall wee come out of their rancke which in hart say Who is the Lord that we should serue him Which men by his benefites haue receiued no earnest of their saluation no pledge of any speciall goodwil no assurance of true safetie no delight in his loue no more familiaritie with him nor greater comfort of him who are no more drawen out of the worlde and her delightes to folow him who hath in so sundry giftes witnessed his good will called them vnto him pledged these as earnestes that his owne glory abideth for them Now would I see where we might set them if not in his ranck who haue so often been fetched vp from the loue of the world by so many messengers of Gods mercie and yet haue so litle ioy to be aboue and so hungerly pursue the pleasures and profites here belowe as yf they had neuer no not in meditation had the sight of any other delights The benefites then leade vs vnto the Lorde when in them we see him to be our father and make the more hast to come to him hauing an eye to the endlesse life he calleth vs vnto Comming more in desire from these things here belowe and getting more holde and more hope aboue shewing aswell in prosperitie as aduersitie that we are not wedded in our luste and desire vnto worldly goodes in wealth by not being letted by it to folowe the way that God doeth set before vs nor yet to deale mercifully with our neighbours and to walke humbly with them And in affliction by holding our selues well contented in so much as we want not him who is a plentifull portion and the best heritage The last note of vngodlinesse is this they say what profite shall we haue if we call vppon him These are no speaches of the tongue as I haue saide before but the sence of the hart No man so euill that maketh not some reckoning of his
the like practise of counterfaiting Papists who make shew of religion hauing sworne hearts to the Pope whose dispensation either they haue or trust in some reconciling reliques and ceremonyes from Rome for these causes I thought it some danger to lay open suche blasphemyes such escapes of an euill and erronious conscience which beginning long agoe in the ancient heretiques the Priscillanistes Montanists Pelagians Anabaptists and Catharists c. and hauing been long time buried in the botome of Hell are not thence to be raked any more Also I thought it almost impossible to meet with such an inconstant and slippery serpent that hath so obscure wordes now to hide and now to conuay her poyson thereby to auoyde the wholesome remedy by the worde and iust punishment by the magistrate But my good brother these my doubts grew from the eye I had to their will and way finding the Serpent so subtile to charme others yet him selfe to shut his care so against the trueth that he will not heare the voyce of the charmer charme hee neuer so wisely and that it is as hard to finde out his way as the way of a Ship that hath sayled through the sea For afterwarde considering that Antichrist did bring as he thought to perfection the mystery of iniquitie in the working force of Satan in all powers and signes and lying woonders and in all deceit of vnrighteousnesse as S. Paul prophesied we in these last ages haue clerely seene and that notwithstanding God hath already almost altogither consumed that man of sin with the spirit of his mouth which is his word preached in the Gospel I acknowledge with praise to God the father in Iesus Christ for that sword of the spirit that two edged swoord that it is able either to heale or to wounde to death all aduersary power be it either in al impietie of heresie or in all corruption of maners Yea if H.N. were freed from all his sinne and washed from all corruption If he in deede were as he is in the fancie of his familie an angell from heauen or by an other transubstantiation more then an archangell or that which they affirme and I dare not write yet teaching otherwise then we haue receiued from the holy Prophets and Apostles he is to be holden accurssed and his Gospell of the kingdom with all other his doctrine to be had in abhomination They that pray are thus to pray against such heresies they that write are so vpon occasion to write and Magistrates are in a zeale of Gods house to put on that minde that the holy trueth may bee exalted and all heresies rooted out to the glory of GOD and the preseruation of his Churche from those damnable waies wherein many not esteeming nor seeking the trueth are sooner destroyed then they can feare destruction Therfore you haue doone wel in the Lord drawing out that sworde of the worde of God to make a separation betweene thought and thought betweene practise and practise betweene secret open paths of errour and contempt betwene ioynts and marrow betwene soule and spirit that all the outgoings escapes and dennes wherein these heresies either lye in waite and worke against the trueth or hide themselues from discouery may be discouered and the bright face of the trueth appeare to the great glory of God ouerthrowing of al error cōuerting those of that family of Loue whom he hath loued and in mercie will conuert deliuering their eyes from blindenesse and feete frō falling and to stay those that might for want of the voice of the trumpet sodenly fal into the enemies hand to be caried away into the miserable captiuitie of those heresies and to the second death that followeth thē as their iust reward Also the Magistrate by such a manifest discouery of those blasphemies against God against his Christ against his worde shall more more see into the great danger of their horrible sect and find necessary cause to ioyne with the worde to cut it off lest in the end they with their brethrē the Anabaptists exalt themselues asmuch against the holy and necessary authoritte of magistrates as they doe already against God and his word by whome Princes raigne receiue their blessed peace and safetie Against which Magistrates this practise they haue vsed and still doe vse abusing their holy place of Iustice they recant in woordes without recantation in heart as I noted before holding it for a rule that they ought not to destroy the Temple of GOD whiche is say they in a grosse and absurde interpretation our body and therefore we will not be brought to persecution and death Making a rule against the rule of Christ and against the most wonderfull practise thereof in him selfe and his holy Martyres who loosing their life heere haue found it in heauen and hauing their bodies burnt to ashes in hope they looke for the ioyful resurrection of the same bodyes at the comming of Iesus Christ Therfore my very good brother I thanke God for your labours praying his maiestie to blesse them that the offenders may see and repent their offence that others yet free may remaine by such instruction free for euer from those and such heresies and may be more more armed against error with the trueth and comforted therein to their saluation Praying also that God would continue with increase that spirit of zeale and wisdome in the heart of our most excellent soueraine the Queene other in authoritie vnder her to represse those fantasticall and erronious spirits being indeed the true succession of those ancient Catharists Puritans who thought themselues not to sinne but actually to bee possessed with absolute holinesse and purenesse For so those thinke of themselues and plainly affirme it of their illuminate elders But howsoeuer they seduce some goodly and zealous men women of honest and godly conuersation placing them at the porch of their Synagogue to make a shewe of holinesse and to stand there as baites and stalles to deceiue others yet alas who can without blushing vtter the shame that is committed in the inwarde roomes and as it were in the heart of that Synagogue of Satan These are the things I haue thought touching the booke and a testimonie of my greate ioy touching the same And besides the good I haue already noted this confutation shal testifie to all ages at large that the blessed gouernment of our gratious soueraigne the Queenes maiestie suffereth neither Papists nor other heretiques to goe vncōfuted or vnpunished howsoeuer first in great abundance of singular clemencie it pleaseth her to seeke their saluation draw on their effectuall conuersation Which blessed fruite of that singular clemencie the Lord God graunt in Christ Iesus and a perfect peace to this Church for euer Amen Yours assuredly in the Lorde W. C. ¶ A Confutation of monstrous and horrible heresies taught by H. N. and imbraced of a number who call them selues the Familie of Loue. ¶ The Title