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A43724	A continuation of The dialogue between a Christian and a Quaker wherein the truth of those things objected against them in the first part, are fully confirm'd : together with a further account of their perilous and pernitious errors concerning the person of Christ, His satisfaction, justification, sanctification, the ministry, and immediate motions are in this second part, cleerly and plainly represented out of the writings of some of their principal, and most approved leaders / published for the common information of such as either really are, or may be, in danger of being insnared and intangled by them by Thomas Hicks.	Hicks, Thomas, 17th cent.	1673 (1673)	Wing H1919; ESTC R21822	53,818	100

expecting that Christs second Coming will be personal G. Whitehead Q. What signifies those words When he comes every eye shall see him they that peirced him c A. To say they that peirced that body shall see that body are not Scripture-words G. Whitehead Q. Hath Christ no body A. Yea the Church is his body Ed. Burroughs Q. Hath Christ no other body but his Church A. This is an ensnaring question Ed. Bur. Q. What snare can be in it if you beleive he hath another Body A. To say Christ hath two bod●es one out of the sight of the Saints there is so much wickedness and ignorance in the broachers hereof that it needs no answer Edw. Burroughs Q. Is not this as much as to say Christ hath no other Body but his Church A. They that accuse us for saying Christ hath but one body should produce plain Scripture that saith he hath two G. W. Q. Is there no other Christ but the Light within A. I have already said that they who deny Christ to be the light in every man are Antichrists Ed. Bur. Q. What doth the word Christ signifie A. Anointed Q. If the light be Christ what is its Vnction and to what end is it anointed and how may we conceive it capable to execute the office of a Priest Prophet and King A. Now thou runs into thy fleshly Conceivings Q. Is Christ in you in respect of that nature in which he suffered at Jerusalem A. Here thou Enemy of Christ wouldst know how the Saints injoy Christ Thou art in the nature that Judas was in who betrayed him Ed. Burroughs Q. Doth Christ really in these days take upon him the form of a Servant A. Thou dark beast and conjurer querying with thy conjured words Is Christ to be limitted to days in taking upon him the form of a servant Ed. Bur. Q. Is this answer serious and to the question A. Yea blessed be the Lord 't is an answer in the eternal life and light Ed. Burroughs Q. Is it not Impious to intitle God to such railing and impertinent Answers A. Thou shalt eternally witness them Ed. Bur. Q. Was Jesus Christ the gift of God A. He was so Q. Wherein doth that appear A. His doctrine life miracles death and sufferings to God is the gift and expression of God's eternal love for the salvation of men W. Pen. Q. Thou hast affirmed that God is Christ did then God himself dye and suffer to God c. A. Wilt thou deny that Christ is God's gift Q. Wilt thou prove that God gave himself to dye and suffer to God therein to express his eternal love for the salvation of men A. This a captious and ensnaring question Q. I perceive thou art entangled and it will be to little purpose to press thee to reconcile one dictate with another however pray shew wherein Christ was given for the salvation of men A. 1. In abolishing the other Covenant which consisted of shaddowy Ordinances 2. In promulgating his message of a most free and universal tender of Life to all that believe and follow him the Light in all his righteousness 3. In seconding his Doctrine with signs and miracle and a most innocent and a holy life 4. In ratifying and confirming all with great love and a holy resignation by offering up his body to be crucified by wicked hands and is thereby become a most compleat Captain and perfect Example W. Pen Sad. Found Q. Of what were those Ordinances shaddows A. Of the Light and Life Q. Was not the light and life at that time in the Jews A. Yea but not in that measure and degree as afterwards should be Q. Were they then shaddows onely of such a measure or degree as in future times should be vouchsafed A. Figures and shaddows are onely in force till the substance comes W. Pen. Q. Is not the light and life the substance A. The light is the same Jesus in his first appearance as the seed of light not come forth to the perfect day G. Keith Q. If then Jesus Christ in his first Appearance was at that time in the Jews then those ordinances could not be shaddows of that Of what then were they so A. As Christ apprehending the weakness of his disciples did think fit to leave them some figurative token and mark of his remembrance for them to be in the practice of till he was better known to them mystically and in the spirit therefore he said Do this till I come W. Pen. Apol. 134. Q. But were the Jewish ordinances figures only of Christ mystically and in the Spirit A. They were so Q. Was not Christ known mystically and in the Spirit at that time A. Not as afterwards he would be Q. If they were shaddows of something farther to be reveal'd Whether that degree of light they then had was not insufficient A. There is a sufficiency in the least degree of light to help and save him that takes heed to it S. Fisher Q. Is not that which is able to save the substance A. It is so Q. Are types figures shaddows of force and to be observed when the substance is come A. When the substance is come the shaddow ceaseth in point of Institution W. Pen. Apol 134. Q. Were not those shaddows Instituted by God A They were so Q. Were the Jews obliged to observe them A. Yea Q. Then Either the substance was not come or they were no shaddows or else they were ordain'd for some other end and purpose thus are you in a maze and run your selves into Irreconcilable absurdities and contradictions pray what was that doctrine which Christ seconded by Miracles A. That all men should take heed to him the Light of them Q. Forasmuch as all men acknowledge a light to be in every man and that it ought to be heeded what need was there of miracles to confirme this A. But all men do not acknowledg the light in every man to be the Christ of God Q. Very true were the Miracles then to prove this A. Yea. Q. Where was such a doctrine delivered by Christ and seconded by Miracles A. Doth not Christ say He is the light of men Q. Where doth he say The light in every man is the Christ of God A. They who deny the light in every man to be the Christ are Antichrists Ed. Bur. Q. What farther did Christ deliver as his doctrine which he seconded by Miracles A. A message of a most free universal tender of life to all that believe and follow him the light in all his righteousness W. Pen. Q. Was this all he seconded by miracles A. Yea. Q. Dost thou do well to say so since the Scriptures teach us otherwise A. What other Doctrine did he confirm by miracles Q. Was it not this That he himself was the Messiah promised and was sent into the world to dye for sinners and is not this that doctrine you so Strenuously oppugn A. Now thou insinuates a slander against us Q. What further

A CONTINUATION of the DIALOGUE BETWEEN A Christian and a Quaker WHEREIN The truth of those things objected against them in the first part are fully confirm'd TOGETHER With a further account of their perilous and pernitious Errors CONCERNING The Person of Christ His Satisfaction Justification Sanctification The ministry and Immediate Motions Are in this Second PART Cleerly and plainly represented out of the Writings of some of their Principal and most Approved Leaders Published for the Common Information of such as either really are or may be in danger of being Insnared and intangled by them By Thomas Hicks Tit. 1.10 11. For there are many unruly and vaintalkers and deceivers whose mouthes must be stopped who subvert whole houses teaching things which they ought not for filthy lucre sake 2 Tim. 3.9 But they shall proceed no further for their folly shall be made manifest to all men LONDON Printed for Peter Parker at the Leg and Star in Cornhill over against the Royal Exchange 1673. The Epistle to the Reader Reader SAtan's great design against Religion is manag'd and carryed on partly by error and partly by persecution by that he instills such notions into the minds of men as may teach them to deny it by this he would affright and terrifie them from it The mischeifs he hath wrought by the former the age where into our lot is faln gives us but too many instances The people with whom I have to deal though they are least concerned with yet pretend to the greatest interest in the truth who being not satisfied with those wayes and methods God hath reveal'd and prescribed in the holy Scriptures have broken all bounds cast off the yoak the known rule and follow only such impulses and motions as hath been given in from him who designs nothing short of their ruine by such strategems which are so much the more malignant and effectual towards his intended end by how much they are more grateful to that proud opinion they have of themselves Some account of their perillous opinions in and about several important points of the Christian Faith hath heretofore been given unto you unto which I have long been threatned with a solid Answer though as yet I have not seen any that peice of impertinency which G. Whitehead hath sent abroad inno the World I suppose though not so call'd yet intended for an answer wherein I am rather vindicated then answered most or all the material things in difference he passeth by in silence I have in this second part presented you with a more full relation of their dangerous Tenets wherein the truth of my former Allegations against them are from their own mouths fully established and all Objections that hitherto have occur'd to my knowledge are taken notice of all which I shall leave to thy serious Judgment Many of the things objected against them are so Horrid that 't is probable some will not believe them culpable God forbid that I should be guilty of such vile injustice as to charge them with false things examine the quotations and then judge As for those instances that are not in print I have such undoubted evidences of their truth as may satisfie any man From the whole thou may'st be inform'd that the Quakers Christ and way of Salvation is Forreign to what is revealed in the Scriptures The Doctrines delivered by them are such as neither themselves nor any for them can give us a distinct intelligible account of The tendency of all their writings and declarings doth but lead people into the thickets of absurd inexplicable and unintelligible Dotages They amuze us with the great words of Life and Power pretend as if they lived under the immediate Influences though alas such is their unhappiness they embrace a cloud feed on ashes and know not that a lye is in their right hand and which is the more astonishing many people not distinguishing between words and things pretences and reall injoyments are so easily entrapped and deceived by them but what shall we say If God for the wantonness of persons under the means of Light should give them up to a reprobate sense to strong delusions to believe lyes to follow and admire such monsters in Religion that they may be damned because they received not the Truth in the love of it hence when I consider that God to glorifie his Justice in punishing the wickedness of men doth permit the Enemy to distract their minds and to set them on madding after they know not what on purpose to divert them from those things which are of immediate concernment to them I say the consideration hereof lessens my wonder when I see such delusions and impostures prevail Though to see a people under the Immediate Judgment of God fancying themselves to be the non-such of the World for priviledges and injoyments is I confesse matter of deep Lamentation and Pity 'T will be therefore our interest and Wisdome to consider before it be too late both what we do and who and what we believe We are hastning towards Eternity To miscarry about our last end will not only be unhappy but it will prove the utmost complement of our unhappiness By nature we are all sinners and stand guilty before God if we be unprovided of a meet Righteousness wherewith to appear before the great Tribunal it will be of perilous consequence That a compleat Righteousness should be spun out of our own bowells our laps'd condition consider'd is impossible That Jesus Christ in his Mediatory undertakings for sinners should be improved by us is apparently deny'd by these Quakers so that all mankind are left according to their principles under a fatal necessity of perishing For if the way and means which God's infinite Wisdom Will hath constituted in order to mans eternal welfare be rejected in●…in will it be for us to think of another That thus it is with these People the ensuing Dialogue will give you sufficient grounds to conclude The person of Christ they plainly deny and positively affirm That the Doctrine of rejoycing and acceptance from the works of another is utterly excluded W. Pen Sa. Foun p. 27. And that God accepts not any in whom there is any failing who do not fulfill the Law and answer every demand of Justice And when they talk of the blood of Christ they delude their hearers or readers For by that blood they mean nothing but the Life and Light within At the same instant they are pleading for Perfection they will discharge you from duty except you be Immediatly moved thereunto as if their perfection consisted in being stocks and stones or which is worse in being rebels against the Law of God Their discourse for the most part is about the Light within yet the Light is not more contrary to Darkness than their Dictates are about this thing What one of them saith another of their own will contradict What one man at one time affirms he himself will deny at another One

accuse us with affirming that Christ is in every man Whitehead Christ ascended p. 66. Chr. What vile hypocrisie and deceit is this Whitehead guilty of he himself saith The Scriptures direct to the Rule that is the light within that gave them forth Christ ascended p. 42. Burroughs affirms That they who deny Christ to be the light in every man are Antichrists But I would ask Whitehead whether this light or gift be created or increated If the former then 't is but a meer creature If the latter as he affirms in his Dip. Pl. p. 13. To say the light within every man is a meer creature is saith he contrary to plain Scripture which saith In him was life and the life was the light of men this life and light is divine and increated Is Whitehead then to be believed in saying 'T is not your Principle to say Christ is in every man whilst he openly denies the light within to be a creature and saith 'T is divine and increated This kind of saying and denying is so common with him that I profess 't is a very hard and difficult point with me to know when he speaks as he thinks from the whole you see I had just reason to accuse you for denying the person of Christ But since you own the name Christ and do make use of it pray what doth it signifie Quak. Christ signifies anointed Chr. If God himself be Christ as Penn saith I would quere whether God himself was anointed If you will dare to affirm this then tell me by whom with what and to what end he was anointed Quak. This we say that Christ as the Son of God before the world before he took Flesh was the anointed of God which anointing was spiritual and spiritually received by the heavenly Birth the anointed the holy seed Whitehead Christ ascended p. 68. Chr. This is still as much as to say that God himself was anointed If so what was the unction by whom powred upon him and wherefore Quak. Now thou obtrudes questions Chr. Will you not speak intelligibly Is it not necessary to understand who is the Christ and wherefore he was anointed what signifies your saying The anointing was spiritual and spiritually received by the heavenly birth the holy seed Is God himself a heavenly Birth did he receive the anointing pray be plain and do not lurk in ambiguous terms neither let us be put off with your blasphemous absurdities but speak home to the point Quak. Alas for thee these are mysteries thy dark mind cannot conceive or understand Chr. Is it not your duty who pretend to be under infallible teachings to endeavour my information in such important and weighty matters Quak. Wilt thou deny that the Son of God before the world before he took flesh was the anointed of God Chr. I do not deny but really believe the eternal Deity of the Son of God yet I do deny that the meer Godhead of the Son was the anointed Saviour And thou must prove that the Son of God meerly as God is the Christ for what thou hast yet said is no proof Quak. Is not what I have said sufficient Chr. In no wise however thou mayst take time to consider on it mean while let me ask thee whether Christ was not Gods gift Quak. Yea he was so Chr. To what end and in what respect is he the gift of God Quak. His Doctrine Life Miracles Death and Sufferings to God is the gift and expression of Gods eternal love for the salvation of men Penns Sand. Foun p. 19. Chr. Thou hast affirmed That God is Christ if so did God himself die and suffer to God and therein express his love for the salvation of men or if the Son of God the heavenly Birth which was before the world and before he took flesh as Whitehead talks be only the anointed Saviour was this simply of it self given to die and suffer to God or if the meer light within be the Christ will you say This was given to die and suffer to God and therein to express Gods eternal love for the salvation of men who can understand these things Are not such dictates apparent indications of your distracted minds Quak. We say Christ is the gift of Gods eternal love for the salvation of men and wilt thou deny this Chr. Though I do grant it yet I see you will take a liberty to say that at one time and in one place which can never be reconciled with your sayings in another and that you run your selves into such a labyrinth of confusion and contradiction that all the light you have cannot extricate you out of and consequently that your pretences to infallibility is a meer lying delusion For you neither consist with the truth nor your selves yet give me leave to ask you whether one great end wherefore Christ was given and came into the world was not to seek and to save such that were lost Quak. Yea he came to seek and to save the lost Chr. But who or what is this that was lost Quak. That which was lost is still in mans heart and there it must be sought for it remains still in the house that is mans heart This is the thing to be sought for This Christ came to seek and save and all his Ministers preach'd people to this the lost in man that it might be found a lost God a lost Christ this was the sum and substance of their Doctrine G. Keith Im. Re. p. 75 76. Chr. Blush O Heavens and be astonish'd O Earth was ever such a thing as this heard of before that Jesus Christ came to seek and save a lost God a lost Christ was ever God and Christ in a lost condition If you had said That Jesus Christ came to seek and save Sinners who were in a lost condition and to stir them up to seek after God whom they had lost you had spoken safely But to say this Christ came to seek and save and all his Ministers preach'd people to this the lost in man a lost God a lost Christ Is not capable of any construction less then blasphemy To this agrees James Naylor who said Christ came to redeem the seed within which he often calls Christ Is this another of those things you say are necessary to be reveal'd to you which are not to be found in Scripture not so much as by consequence And are these your instances to prove you under immediate Inspirations If they be they will prove no more nor no less then this that you are immediately inspired and influenced by that grand Impostor the Devil Pray what is your Opinion concerning Justification by that Righteousness of Christ which he in his own Person fulfil'd for us wholly without us Quak. Justification by the Righteousness which Christ fulfil'd for us in his own Person wholly without us we boldly affirm it to be a doctrine of Devils and an arm of the Sea of corruption which doth now deluge the World William