that Favour as suppress us and restrain our Liberty for them as their bitter Invectives and invet crate Clamours plainly import and intimate their persecuting Spirit and Implacâ—…ble Maâ—…ice as while they are complaining against our Principles Doctriâ—…es as â—…amnable 〈◊〉 us Cheats Impostors Romish 〈◊〉 c. Thâ—…ugh their Charge herein they have never proved against us nor can they this doth not only bespeak a Willingness or â—…esire to have our Principles suppresseâ—… but our Persons likewise As also T. Hick's proclaiming to the World p. 62 that the Quaker's Religion is a meer Cheat calculated to the Service of the Devil and wickedly infianating against our Sufferings that the Satisfaction of our Wills and Lusts the promoting our Carnal Interest Respect only to something to be enjoyed here Carnal Advantage Outward Gains c. may be our chief Motive Inducement and Encouragement to do and suffer as we do Dialogue p. 75. And he questions whether we are not really acted by some Romish Emissaries to insinuate covertly many of their own Heresies to distract deform and declaim the Protestant Profession c. p. 76. Judge Candid Reader whether these malitious and false Insinuations do not savour of a persecuâ—…ing Spirit though they would not be seen to envy our Liberty yet how do these Invectives tend to stir up Persecution and to incense the World and instigate the Rulers against us sor our Suppression Their pretended Alegations sor them are hereafter answered and refuted and how absurd they are in these Accusations 1st To insinuate that our Sufferings have been either for Carnal Advantage Temporal Gains or to satisfie Lusts whilst in our resigning up our selves to these many and deep Sufferings we have often offered up our Lives and consequently with them all our Temporal Enjoyments and Advantages us many this Day can testifie together with those many Innocent Person 's Lives that have been laid down among us in and by Imprisonments Exilements and other Sufferings 2ly How ill it doth become these Anabaptists to endeavour to make the World believe that we are either influenced or acted by Romish Emissaries either to distract deform or defame the Protestant Profession which is not only a Popular and deceitful Insinuation against us as if the Dippers had the chief Care of Protestant Religion or were the most Catholick therein but most notoriously false and wicked and I challenge Thomas Hicks and all therest of his Fratcrnity to prove it or else forever to be ashamed thereof Have they not more cause to look back at home and reflect upon themselves since that divers of their Brethren even some of their Preachers have turned Papists of late Years whose Names being so well known I need not now mention them but when or where did any Preachers owned among us turn Papists or were any such Emissaries Oh the great Enmity that 's in these our Opposers and their great Disingenuity and Immoderation that appears among them as will further be manifest to their Shame and the Lord will certainly rebuke them and all their feigned Coverings will be too narrow for them and they shall see and be ashamed of their Envy at his People But I must proceed to give the Reader a short view of some of Thomas Hicks Doctrines that past at a Dispute and in a Paper of his before his Fictitious and Unchristian Dialogue came forth as some Introduction to my following Answer which was writ quickly after the said Dialogue came forth London the 4th 1st Month 1673. I am a Well-Wisher to all Men even desiring my Enemies Repentance G. W. Some of the Doctrines and Contradictions of Thomas Hicks declared at a Discourse between him and some of the Quakers so called in Alderman-Berrey London the twentieth of the third Month 1672. FIrst He owned the Baptists above other People That is no Honour to them 2ly That he did not own Water Baptism to be necessary or of Necessity to Salvation True but contrary to many of his Brethren 3ly That the Quakers err in Fundamentals denying the Person of Christ denying the true Christ and Resurrection These are Impudent Slanders 4. That the Life or Light spoken of John 1. 4 9. is not supernatural because it is the Light of the Word as Creator A Blasphemous Inconsistency This was noted down at the Interim of the Discourse before him but snacht away by one of his Companions So that hâ—… concluded the â—…ight in every Man is but Natural and not sufficient to guide to Salvation False Doctrine the Light of the Eternal Word is supernatural and sufficient 5ly That the Life which is in God which is the Light of Men John 1. 4. is divine as it is in God but natural as it is in Man Blasphemy that Life is Immutable because Divine 6ly That the Light that is given in common to Men is not able to apprehend things supernatural A false and inconsistent Doctrine And yet able to apprehend and bring Men clearly to see the Invisible things of God even the Eternal Power and Godhead Rom. 1. 19 20. A true Concession but a Contradiction to the former 7ly Evasion That it is able to discern the Eternal Power and God head but not the things that are supernatural that are in God A gross Contradiction the Eternal Power and GodHead are supernatural 8ly That it was a Natural Light a Light of Conscience and a depraved renewed Nature by which the Gentiles did those things contained in the Law Rom. 2. 14. Absurd Inconsistencies and Falshoods 9ly That the Light in the Heathen in Philosophers and others was able to apprehend God and his Divine Power but not those things that are in God A gross Inference are those things higher then God 10ly That it cannot discover the human Nature of Christ or the Body that he took upon him nor his Suffering nor Death And yet it can discover the divine Attributes of God his Wisdom Power Goodness Love and direct Men to love him A manifest Contradiction can it discover the greater and not the lesser 11ly But the Light in the Quakers cannot discover the Person of Christ nor his human Nature Sufferings Death c. Yet it is the Life and Light of Christ. 12ly That the Quakers deny the Person of Christ his Offices Satisfaction and the Resurrection of the Body c. Lyes and Slanders forged and brought forth in Envy and Darkness 13ly That it s their Principle that whosoever believes in that Christ that suffered at Jerusalem and expects Salvation by him they are deceived in their Faith and shall be damned c. This he spake of James Naylâ—…r's Love to the Lost near the Beginning of the Discourse This is an Abuse the true Christ is but one and the same yesterday to day and forever 14ly Also at the Beginning he said that the Baptists and Presbyterians agree in Fundamentals and there are good People among Presbyterians therefore they might joyn against the Quakers for they err
in himself by the same eternal Spirit by which the Saints were both Washed Cleansed Sanctified and Justified 1 Cor. 6. 11. Through the same eternal Spirit the same Power the same Righteousness the same Holiness the same Faith the same Love the same Patience c. that was in Christ do they partake of who truly follow him and walk in his steps having his Life manifest in them and received the Spirit of the Son which receives of his things and giveth unto them who walk after the Spirit not after the Flesh But Quest. What can we give to God for our Souls proportionable to so Great a Loss to so great Sufferings Sanctification and Holiness or a little Faith and the Works that follow This is likely to do Answ. A groundless Question in the first place no man can redeem his Brother nor give to God a Ransom for him for the Redemption of the Soul is pretious and so pretious as that which cannot be procured without a Price of Infinite Value Christ gave himself a Ransom for all 't is Christ himself that ransoms saves and redeems the Soul to God and that through Sanctification or washing of Regeneration and Christ is made unto us who believe in him both Righteousness Sanctification and Redemption however this man undervalues Saâ—…ctification and a little Faith and though it be the Gift oâ—… God to us and not ours to him and the Saints Victory we have not given to God the Ransom nor the Price he Loved us first and therefore we Love and believe in him and in this was manifested the Love of God towards us because he sent his only begotten Son into the World that we might Live through him 1 Joh. 4. Again though the Phrase Merit of Christ's Blood and Sufferings be not a Scripture Phrase yet the Worth and Value thereof with respect to man's Salvation we never disesteemed since we knew the true and spiritual Application Virtue and Effects of his Blood c. through his Light and Spirit to the purging our Consciences cleansing and justifying which yet is an inward Experience not shut out nor put afar off by the true Church whom God hath purchased with his own Blood not redeemed with corruptible thing but with the pretious Blood of Christ which therefore is incorruptible Act. 20. 28. 1 Pet. 1. 17 18. cited by S. S. But then he egregiously mistakes in saying viz. Let us then with Paul abhor all Sanctification in us all Holiness all Works of Faith whatever is wrought by us in Comparison of what we spie by Faith in Christ. Answ. A very gross Mistake and Perversion an Abuse of Paul and of those Hearers to whom S. S. preaches such impious Doctrine It was not Sanctification or Holiness within nor yet the Works or Obedience of Faith that Paul either abhorred or rejected for the Excellency of the Knowledge of Christ or that he might win Christ but it was his former Confidence in the Flesh his own self-Righteousness which was of the Law and all those things that had been deemed as Gain to him that he counted Loss for Christ and for whom he suffered the Loss of all those things and counted them but as Dung that he might win Christ which he could not so account of all Sanctification or Holiness wrought by Christ within nor of the Works of Faith Can it be any less then Blasphemy as in this man's Sense thus to present and read Paul viz. I abhor all Sanctification within all Holiness and Works of Faith and I count them but all Loss for the Excellency of the Knowledge of Christ Jesus and have suffered the Loss of all my inward Holiness Sanctification and Works of Faith and do count them but Dung that I may win Christ c. How unlike Paul odious and gross were it thus to pervert his Words as to say Let us with Paul abhor all Sanctification in us c. neither doth Paul make any such Difference or Repugnancy between Christ's inward Work of Sanctification and the Excellency of his Knowledge nor between being in the Faith or Obedience thereof and being in Christ and his Righteousness but really desired that he might be found in Christ not having said he mine own Righteousness which is of the Law but that which is through the Faith of Christ the Righteousness which is of God by Faith Phil. 3. 9. so far was he from either putting the Righteousness of Faith afar off or abhorring Sanctification within that he desired to have it and be possessed with it as one found in Christ. For that only doth God justifie us which doth suffice to turn away his Wrath from us and satisfie his Justice for our Transgression but Christ's Sufferings only c. Answ. I deny his minor as it depends on the Word only for then why are not all Men in the World justified for whom Christ suffered and dyed which was for all Men he tasted Death for every Man for the Sins of the whole World And yet he that believeth not on the Son hath not Life but the Wrath of God abides upon him therefore without Faith Repentance and Conversion which are Effects of Christ's inherent Righteousness and Work the Wrath is not turned away nor are Men justified Obj. Let us then place no Confidence in Sanctification Holiness Faith and the Works that follow as if these laying aside Christ's Death on the Cross could turn away God's Wrath c. Rep. Herein he varies from his Argument before which was that Christ's Sufferings only can turn away Wrath justifie c. Note It is not Sanctification Holiness Faith c. only can do it without Christ's Death or laying it aside But while here he implies that Sanctification Holiness Faith c. with respect to Christ's Death can turn away Wrath he hath contradicted his own Argument before of Christ's Sufferings only which also cannot be slited nor his Death made void where true Faith Sanctification in him are enjoyed for therein Christ himself is enjoyed and we dare not preach nor own such Doctrine as to abhor all Sanctification in us nor the having no Confidence in Faith and Sanctification which are wrought in the Soul by Christ Jesus CHAP. IV. Of Satisfaction some serious Considerations farther opening the Doctrine and Sence of our Opposers Obj. GOd will not Justifie us without full Satisfaction to his Justice for our Sin Rep. And what Kind of Satisfaction is it he thinks this Justice requires We confess a Satisfaction or answering his Good Pleasure in and by Christ Jesus but about the Manner of it as supposed and stated we differ See how the man states it He concludes it must be a Punishing our Fall 1st From God's Judgment 2dly God's Truth 3dly God's Will and Purpose Quest. What is his Ground from these see his Answer viz. 1st God hath said in the Day thou eatest thereof thou shalt Dye 2dly Cursed is he that continues not
Wicked who are Rebellious against him and reject his Grace by rebelling against his gracious Light and Spirit in them And also it was said unto Esau as 〈◊〉 the Wicked of his Posterity or the earthly Edonites and carnal envious Persecutors Shall I not saith the Lord even destroy the wise Men out of Edom and the Understanding out of the Mount of Esau Obed. 8. That every one of the Mount of Esau may be cut off ver 9. For the Violâ—…ce against thy Brother Jacob Shame shall cover thee and thou shalt be cut off forever ver 10. Thou shouldst not have looked on the Day of thy Brother c. neither shouldst thou have spoken proudly in the Day of Distress See ver 12 13 14. to the End Are not here plain Causes shâ—…wn why God hated Esau Arg. 6. God knows his Elect from others and this not only after but before they are called 2 Tim. 2. 19. The Foundation of God standeth sure The Lord knoweth who are his Joh. 13. 18. I know whom I have chosen Joh. 10. 14. I am the good Shepherd I know my Sheep ver 16. Other Sheep I have that are not of this Fold them also I must bring and they shall hear my Voice Therefore are they particular Persons These and not others that the Lord hath chosen Joh. 6. 37. All that the Father giveth me shall come to me Answ. This Argument signifies nothing at all sor his Purpose nor would it help him one whit if it were all granted for who questions God's Omnisciency God knows all alike considered meerly as Persons but in a near peculiar Relation to himself he knows his Elect he knows who are his Christ knows them both Men and Women whom he hath chosen out of the World and he saith I am the good Shepherd and know my Sheep and am known of mine Joh. 10. 16. But these latter Words and I am known of mine S. S. is pleased to leave out and quietly to pass by for that Christ is known of his Elect his Sheep but surely he could not be known of them before they were born or had a Being and as for those other Sheep which are not of this Fold which Christ foretold the Gathering or bringing home of they were such as had a Remainder of Innocency in whom Jacob was not wholy destroyed through Rebellion and Wickedness but such as had been seeking Rest where they could not find it but when the Truth and Way of Life came to be manifest to them they were ready to receive and comply with it and hear the good Shepherd's Voice and obey him There were such lost Sheep both among Jews and Gentiles who when the good Shepherd appeared were so well disposed as willing and ready to come to him receive and follow him and obey his Voice which were distinguished from the Murtherers of the Just one in themselves who were Wolves and Persecutors of Christ his Witnesses as he the good Shepherd was distinguished from the Hireling that fleeth Joh. 10. 13 14. And they that come to Christ out of a true Hunger and Desire after him as the Bread of Life are those whom the Father hath given to him who come to him in that which is given to him of which he looseth nothing but will raise it up at the last Day Joh. 6. 37 39. And they whom the Father giveth to the Son are given in a true Desire Willingness and Love in themselves to the Truth to follow obey Christ the Father's Drawings not being resisted by them but having an Influence and Prevalency with them and upon their Spirits for that End as he said Every man that hath heard and learned of the Father cometh unto me Joh. 6. 45. so the Father's Teaching or Instruction was the Way of his drawing to the Son and this was not a Forceing them whether they will'd or nill'd to the Son but a gentle Perswading them to hear and learn of God in his Light that thereby they might come and in a sence of his Love therein be given to the Son Arg. 7. This appears from the very Nature of Election for sect 5 where all are taken or all are left there can be no Election Answ. Election rightly considered and truly stated according to Scripture I never questioned the Nature of which as is by this Opposer implied here is a being chosen out of or from imong and so the Elect or true Believers are chosen out of the World from among Men chosen out of Kindreds Nations and People as the Royal Offspring and Priesthood of Christ But what proves this of a Personal Election and Reprobation particularly decreed and designed from all Eternity But still the quite contrary far from the Nature of Election or chusing a Church or People out of the World or from among Men and that through the Sanctification of the Spirit and Belief of that Truth it follows that they were first in the World in the Unbelief and scattered among Men and People before this Act of Election or chusing out was fulfilled in them He hath chosen us that we should be Holy and wâ—…thout Blame that we might partake of Salvation by Jesus Christ Ephes. 14. 1 Thes. 5. 9. and those thus choâ—…en for this end were the Saints the Faithful in Christ Jesus Ephes. 1. 1. who first trusted in Christ ver 12. who alter they believed were sealed with the holy Spirit of Promise ver 13. their Faith was in the Lord Jesus and Love unto all Saiâ—…ts ver 15. who believed according to the working of his mighty Power ver 19. Aâ—…d that thâ—… Estaâ—…e might be attained Faith is offered to all the Power of Believing is given in the free Grace and Giâ—…t of God's eternal Spirit and universal Light of his Son It beiâ—…g the World's Sin that they do not believe in Christ of which the Spirit reproves them sor which they would not be chargeable or reproved if he had not afforded them Light and Power sufficient â—…or them to believe and obey Christ. S. S. Jacob have I Loved and Esau have I hated Though these last Worâ—…s were spoken when Esau's Posterity was the Border of Wickedness Mal. 1. yet what ever G. W. saith were they spoken to 〈◊〉 the free Choice that God long before had made os Jacob and his 〈◊〉 pag. 112. Answ. As he intends Jacob after the Flesh and so his Seed who was called by the Name of Israel this is still grounded upon his Mistake and doth not at all make for his Opinion but against him For though I grant a free Love to and Choice of Israel so of the Seed of Jacob as a peculiar People yet this did not secure them as to their eternal States without their Perseverance in the Way of God Neither was the Seed of Jacob as after the Flesh under an absolute Decree of Election to Eternal Life that being known only in the Seed after the Spirit for the contrary was and is manifest
yet cannot we think it good Arguing to infer the Gifts of God's Light and Spirit to the Gentiles that make far the greatest part thereof from these Scriptures that only seem to prove it the Priviledg of the Jews To which I Answer That I conceive I have urg'd those Scriptures already that afford a plain Conviction and Evincement of the Truth of that general Inference but because I am desirous from my very Soul in perfect Love to theirs that shall read this Discourse of removing what Objection I am able to fore-see it may meet with after it shall have past my hand I will endeavour to make appear first from SCRIPTURE and next from the Best Account we have of the DOCTRINES and LIVES of HEATHENS and lastly from REASON That God's Love in the Illumination of his Spirit or Gift of a Measure of his Divine and Saving Light was Universal or that Mankind was and consequently is antecedently to Christ's Coming in the Flesh enlightned with such a Measure of Light as was Saving in it self And to all such as received the Light and obeyed it in the Love of it In order to this I shall briefly insist on a few Scriptures some of which have been already quoted though not so directly to this Matter I. My Spirit shall not alwayes strive with Man Here observe That no one Nation was interested more then another but Man stands for the whole Adam or Mankind from whence I do very truly Conclude that Mankind was not destitute of the Spirit or Light of the Almighty though it might be known in no higher Degree then that of a Convincer and Reprover of Sin yet it follows not But if man had yielded to the Striving of it doubtless he had been thereby redeemed from that Spirit of Iniquity that was the ground of his grievous Resistance which I call Salvation from sin II. They are of those that Rebel against the Light they know not the Wayes thereof nor abide in the Path thereof Here is no mention made of the Jews in this Chapter nor in many foregoing or following it if at all in the whole Book For Job is here giving the Character of wicked Men in general that is not with respect to any particular Nation so that we may well infer neither did he understand the Light whereof he spoke should be limited as to its Illumination or any particular People In short I argue thus If such as pluck the Fatherless from the Breast and take a Pledge of the Poor as the Context relates are those that Rebel against the Light and walk not in its Way then because that Vice was never limited to the Jews but other Nations work'd that Wickedness as well as they it will plainly follow that the Light against which such Offenders Rebell'd also was not limited to the Jews but extended to the Gentiles also unless it should be said That what was Rebellion and Wickedness in the Jews was not so in the Gentiles But because Sin was and is Sin all the World over Light was and is Light all the World over whether Men bring their Deeds to it or not III. But again let us hear the same Book speak Is there any Number of his Armies and upon whom doth not his Light Arise This Question carries in it a strong Affirmative of the Universality of God's Light as much as to say Who is there among all the Sons and Daughters of Men that can say I am not Enlightned by Him If then none can it must needs follow That all are Enlightned as well Gentiles as Jews IV. Thus much these two Notable Parables teach us of the Sower and the Lord that gave his Servants Talents They who believe Scripture must acknowledge them to represent God's Dealings with Mankind in reference to Gift Duty and Reward Observe the first Parable The same Day went Jesus out of the House and sate by the Sea side And great Multitudes were gathered together unto him so that he went into a Ship and sate and the whole Multitude stood on the Shore And he spoke many things unto them in Parables saying Behold A SOWER WENT FORTH TO SOW and when he sowed some Seeds fell by the Way side and the Fowls came and devour'd them up Some fell upon Stony places where they had not much Earth and forthwith they sprung up because they had no Deepness on Earth and when the Sun was up they were scorched and because they had not Root they wither'd away and some fell among Thorns and the Thorns sprung up and choack'd them But other fell in Good Ground and brought forth Fruit some an Hundred-fold some Sixty-fold some Thirty-fold Who has Ears to hear let him hear It is granted by all that I know of that the Seeds-Man is God the Scripture saith the Seed is the Word of the Kingdom which must needs be the Spiritual Word nigh in the Heart suitable to the Heavenly Kingdom Christ said was within other-wise call'd Light that is said to be sown for the Righteous or the Grace that appeares unto all-Men and brings Salvation to them that are taught by it And lastly common Sense tells us that the several Grounds comprehend Mankind for they must either include the Bad with the Good or the Good only must be benefited But the very Scripture expresly distinguisheth betwixt the Good and Bad Ground yet affirms the one to have been sown with the Seed as well as the other Therefore Gods Gift is Universal however Men by Wicked Works may have render'd their Hearts Stony Thorny or otherwise defective and uncapable of bringing forth Fruit. The other Parable is also very weighty and much to our purpose For the Kingdom of Heaven is as a Man travelling into a far Country who called his own Servants and delivered unto them his Goods and unto one he gave Five Talents to another Two and to another One to every Man according to his several ability and straight-way took his Journey Then he that had received Five Talents went and traded with the same and made them other Five Talents and likewise he that had received Two he also gained other Two But he that had received One went and digged in the Earth and hid his Lord's Money After a long time the Lord of those Servants cometh and Reckoneth with them And so he that had received Five Talents came and brought other Five Talents saying Lord Thou deliveredst unto me Five Talents Behold I have gained besides them Five Talents more His Lord said unto him Well done thou Good and Faithful Servant thou hast been faithful over a few things I will make thee Ruler over many things Enter thou into the Joy of thy Lord. He also that received Two Talents came and said Lord Thou deliveredst unto me Two Talents Behold I have gain'd Two other Talents besides them His Lord said unto him Well done Good and Faithful Servant thou hast been faithful over a few things I will
l. 30. read Jews viz. p. 112. l. 23. for suffer'd read suffer p 115. l. 17 for Inâ—…ner read Jenner page 116. l. 11. for Saving One read saving one line 16. for Product read produc'd p. 1â—…7 l. 11. for better as read better at line 25. read true Light p 119. l 27. dele Omnious p. 122. l. 37. r. Aggravation 〈◊〉 126. l. 1 for Siâ—… read Sigh p. 28. read CHAP XXVI p. 131. l. 4. for Inability to see the read 〈◊〉 to see the. p. 136. l. 26. r. Scriptures p. 136. l. 34. for were 〈◊〉 waâ—… p. 137. l. 6. for Good read Goad l. 29 read such a thing p. 138. l. 27. for more read mâ—…er l. 39. Margeâ—…t for on read one pâ—…ge 140 l. 29. for He that flyes read They â—…at flye p. 148. l 〈◊〉 for 〈◊〉 read perâ—…eived p. 149. l. 24. read in his Works p. 54. l 34 afâ—…er Mâ—…unt deâ—… and put a before was p. 156. l. 30. r. but as the THE CHRISTIAN QUAKER AND HIS Divine Testimony VINDICATED Against the Adversaries of the True LIGHT BEING THE Second Part Containing A more particular Answer to the Baptists and others Arguments Exceptions Errors and Falasies herein specified By a Servant and Follower of Jesus Christ through Persecutions and Reproaches G. Whitehead The vile Person will speak Villany and his Heart will work Iniquity to practice Hypocrisie and to utter Error against the Lord Isa. 32. 6. Printed in the Year 1673. To the Unprejudiced READER IF it had not been the Lord who was on our side when Men rose up against us Now may we with Israel say then they had swallowed us up quick when their Wrath was kindled against us Had our Separation and Testimony been of Men or by Man's Will we haâ—… fallen long since as many of our Adversaries have falsly prophesied we had not been sustained through our many Tryals nor born up above the Floods of Enmity if the Lord hâ—…d not been with us but he who hath gathered and chosen us to witnesâ—… forth his Name and Truth in the Power and Spirit of it hâ—…th preserved and given us Strength to persevere therein blessed be his Name for ever And this I with my Brethren must give Testimony of that as God hath in these last Dayes been pleased to visit us by his Eternal Power and in his Love and Kindness to open the Eyes of our Understanding to see his Goodness both to our own particulars and to Man-kind in General in extending Saving Grace or Light to all So it is by his Power that he hath raised up and set forth Witnesses of the same the Sence we have of the Love of God and his Glorious Light revealed induceth and moveth us even in the Spirit of the Gospel to call others out of Darkness and to direct their Minds to the Appearance of the true Light in their Hearts and Consciences in what degree soever it sheweth it self which God in his Goodness hath universally afforded for Good to Mankind that they might both know him and their Duty to him God did stretch forth his Hand and reach unto us by his Power for this very end to gather us unto his divine Light or Shining in our Hearts that thereby we might receive the Knowledge of his Glory in the Face of Christ Jesus as his former Witnesses did And although we must still confess to the Love and Good-Will of God to Man in affording Divine Light universally throughout all Ages yet Transgression and Darkness hath been such in the Earth that hath in many Ages much vailed and obscured the Light that the Knowledge and Manifestation thereof hath beâ—… much wanting even because of Man's Transgrâ—…ssion and I 〈◊〉 Wherefore Light being now sprung up anâ—… Truth arisen out of Darkness and Obscurity we must faithfully testifie thereof aâ—…d own the least degrees and lowest Dispensations of divine Light 〈◊〉 Man as his Duty to observe and not to slight nor despiseâ—… 〈◊〉 any for we know that as Light hath risen and shined out of Obscurity and Truth hath risen up out of the Earth it hath been from a less Appearance and Degree to a greater 〈◊〉 â—…rom that Degree of shining in a dark Place unto the perfect Day And as all the Promises of God are yea and Amen in Christ so all his Glorious Dispensations and Promises do center in a Divine and Unchangeable Principle of Life and Light 〈◊〉 gradually discovered to and in Man Therefore the 〈◊〉 Appearance or Manifestation in any while 't is of the same Principle cannot be extinguished nor lessened by the greater in others in that the highest Attainments of Divine Knowledge were alwayes gradually obtained by the Holy Men of God Moreover This we assert that God that made Man for his own Glory whose Mcrcies are over all his Works and who willeth not the Death of Sinners but rather that they should return and live He hath not only throughout all Ages universally afforded an Unchangeable Principle of Divine Light which he hath placed in man to direct him his Way out of Darkness and Sin but also he signally visits him at times with Living Appearances Motions and Opperations of his Light and Spirit to his Reproof and Conviction thereby often warning and calling Man out of Iniquity as the Spirit of God did strive with the old World that had corrupted us Way before him and was destroyed by the Flood for its Flood of Iniquity and he gave his good Spirit unto the Rebellious Jews which they grieved and vexed until he became their Enemy and fought against them He by his Lightnings enlightened the World and the Earth trembled and sâ—…ke and upon whom doth not his Light arise although they that rebel against the Light know not the Wayes of it because they abide not in the Pathes thereof yea he that causeth his Sun to arise â—…n the Evil and on the Good and sendeth his Rain on the Just and the Unjust he hath not left himself without sufficient Witness in the Earth both inward outward as namely his Divine Immediate Light in man appearing to the Soul his Works of Creation which are obvious to the Light and Universally declaring his Wisdom Power and Greatness to be inwardly 〈◊〉 and â—…nderstood as his Inward Light opens Man's Understanding and the Eyes thereof Howbeit Man having transgressed this Divine Principle and his Mind being alienated from it and blinded by the God of this World God having Bowels of Pitty still remaining he hath been pleased so far to commiserate poor lost Man as to afford and extend those pretious Promises as the more eminently to declare shew forth and renew his Love Light and Power for man's Recovery out of his Lost and Dark Estate As that the Seed of the Woman should bruise the Serpents Head and this did Christ in general and doth in particular by the Power of the Father which can no wayes lessen nor detract from his Light within nor be any Inconsistency with
corruptly and disingenuously against the Light within but I ask T. H. if the Light within him doth not at some times reprove him for his Passion Envy and Railing which ill becomes a Man professing the Patience and Sufferings of Christ No Man can have a sufficient Light to guide him to Salvation that hath not the Spirit of God because no man can understand the things of God but he that hath the Spirit of God but all men have not the Spirit of God therefore all men have not a sufficient Rule to Salvation because all Men have not the Spirit Answ. By this he hath granted the Spirit of God and Light of it to be a sufficient Guide and Rule to Salvation and to bring man to understand the things of God but how well this agrees with their Doctrine That the Scriptures are the only Rule of Faith and Practicâ—… and not the Spirit nor Light in man and that the Bible is the means of knowing God I refer to the understanding Reader to judge of And what though all men have not the Spirit either in the Union or Possession of it as their Rule can no man have it that thus hath it not already Seeing he concludes that no man can have a sufficient Light to guide him to Salvation that hath not the Spirit what can no man have it Is it not then to be had and yet 't is granted to be the Saint's Rule whenas that which is the Saint's Rule ought to be every man's Rule because every man ought to be a Saint wherefore God hath afforded some divine Light to every man whereby he may be led out of Darkness call upon God obtain Life receive the Spirit which he giveth to them that ask and become Saint for God is ready to give the Spirit to them that truely ask it which only man can do by a Light of it His Argument that all men have not the Spirit is no Proof that every man is not enlightened by Christ for those are said not to have the Spirit who live not to God in it but in Sensuality Jude 19. and yet such were said to be twice dead ver 12. which they could not have been if they had never been quickened yet being twice dead pluckt up by the Roots they are become sensual having not the Spirit i. e. in the Knowledge Rule Exercise and Union of it But whether shall I go from thy Spirit or whether shall I flee from thy Presence Psa. 139. 7. and upon whom doth not his Light arise when every man that cometh into the World is enlightened by Christ. The Light within cannot be ae sufficient Rule because it is made the Character of a wicked Man to do what is right in his own Eyes and to walk after his own Imaginations then that which they do account their Duty may be their Wickedness highest Wickedness and an Argument of God's severe Curse upon them it s said he gave them up to strong Delusions to believe a Lye Answ. Doth then the wicked man follow the Light within him as his Rule in doing what 's right in his own Evil Eyes and in walking in his own Imaginations Or doth God bring such a severe Curse â—…pon any as the giving up to strong Delusions for walking after or following the Light within How horribly blasphâ—…mous is it either to suppose or imply these things against the Light within to prove it an Insufficient Rule as this man argues placing not only Uncertainties the various Opinions Thoughts and Imaginations of wicked men upon the Light within but their Wickedness and highest Wickedness if they own it their Duty his Argument blasphemously places it upon the Light within most blindly confounding wicked men's Imaginations Wickedness which the Devil is the Author of with the Light in every man without distinction wherein Ranter like he puts Darkness for Light and Light for Darkness which wo is to them that doth Isa. 5. 20. Whereas they that follow their own vain Imaginations and are given up to strong delusions to believe a Lye as T. H. doth are such as have rebelled against the Light rejected the Truth have not glorified God as God nor liked to retain him in their Knowledge see Job 24. 13. Rom. 1. 21. 28. because they obeyed not the Gospel noâ—… received the Love of the Truth that they might be saved God gave them over to strong Delusions and took Vengeance on them 2 Thes. 1. 8. and Chap. 2. 10 11. Therefore God did afford both a sufficient Light Rule and tendred the Love of the Truth to them as he doth to all else how should they be left without Excuse seeing it is a Righteous thing with God to recompence and render Vengeancâ—… on them that know him not for their disobedience It cannot be consistent with his Righteousness in Judgment to bring Tribulation and Anguish upon every Soul that doth Evil or to judge the Secrets of Men by Christ according to the Gospel without ever affording them a Lght of the Gospel or Gospel Nature sufficient to discover Evil and direct to Good and how can Indignation and Wrath come upon them that are Contentious and obey not the Truth but obey Unrighteousness if the Truth did never reach to or enlighten them or how should their not obeying the Truth but Unrighteousness be charged upon them if the Truth were never afforded them Therefore by the same Reason that its confest that God wil render to every man according to his Deeds that there is no Respect of Persons with God it ought to be also confessed or owned that he doth afford to every man a Light of Truth Righteousness sufficient for a Rule to escape Sin and Evil and the Wrath that 's due for it and to direct man unto patient continuance in Well doing to seek for Glory and Immortality that he might obtain eternal Life Glory see consider Rom. 2. throughout which sufficiently signifies 1. The Goodness of God to Man 2. His dispencing of his Grace and Truth to all 3. How Impartial he is Righteous in his Judgment against the disobedient and rebellious who despise his Goodness and thereby bring Wrath upon themselves 4. The acceptance of the Gentiles who obeyed that Law or Light given them though they had not the Law in the Letter of it Wherefore now moderate Reader take notice that the very Ground of our asserting the universal Extent of Saving Grace sufficient Light to Man-kind is 1. The unspeakable Love and Goodness of God as in himself he being Love in the highest 2. His unwillingness that Man should either live or die in Sin he having no Pleasure in the Death of Sinners but rather that they should return and live 3. That he so loved the World that he sent his Son into the World that whosoever believes in him might not perish but have Everlasting Life in that he sent not his Son into the World to condemn
throughout all the Generations of the Righteous since the World began being the Rock of Ages that spiritual Rock whereof all Israel drank 1 Cor. 10. 4. who said before Abraham was I am this great and most eminent Prophet God promised to raise up unto Israel of their Brethren which was in a more familiar Appearance even in the Flesh though his spiritual Out-goings were before from of old and he was called the faithful and true Witness the beginning of the Creation of God Rev. 3. 14. who faith behold I stand at the door and knock if any man hear my Voice and open the Door I will come in to him and will sup with him and he with me ver 20. Now I ask what and where is that Door that he so universally knocks at And is not this the true Christ that thus knocketh And was not his Light or Word in Israels Hearts and his Spirit in the Holy Prophets by which they fore-saw his Coming in the Flesh his Sufferings and Glory that should follow Now though the pure Light and Glory of the Father was more fully eminently and signally then ever before manifest and shining forth in him as coming in the fulness of time to consummate and end the Types and Shadows of the first Covenant whereby he gave a more eminent and signal Testimony of God's Universal Love and Power to man this is no Argument to prove that either the true Christ or his Universal Light was not in being and in some degree discovered before for without this no Soul could ever be saved it was his divine Light that could minister Life unto the Soul and not Shadows Sect. IX The Dipper plung'd in a Laborinth of self-Contradictions and the Light within proved a Rule above the Scriptures T. H. IT will be our Wisdom yea our Duty not only to attend the Light within but specially to those Revelations of God's Mind and Will in the Holy Scriptures p. 13. Answ. In thy granting its part of our Duty to attend to the Light within thou hast plainly contradicted thy Blasphemy in opposing it in other places as a mis-guiding Light and comparing it with the Man of Sin Mahomet c. and judging our following its Conduct as a subverting and anihilating the Covenant of Grace and that this Light doth directly oppose it and ought to be rejected as appears p. 38. Is it part of our Duty to attend upon that that subverteth and opposeth the Covenant of Grace O! that thou wouldst consider and see thy Blasphemy and what a Laborinth of Contradictions thou art fallen into as also in thy Concession of attending to the Light within thou art defective whilst thou dost not place the special Attention to be upon it but upon the Scriptures whereas the Light within is specially to be attended to as that which both opens the Understanding in the Scriptures and discovers the several Conditions which they relate to otherwise men are apt to pervert and mis-apply the Scriptures to their own Destruction turning the Truth of God into a Lye as they did who turned their Backs upon the Manifestation of God in them Rom. 1. 19 21 25. T. H. I conceive enough hath been said to evince that the Light in every man neither is the true Christ nor a sufficient Rule to guide us unto Salvation p. 13. Answ. While Thou are following thy own Conceptions thou dost not follow the Guidance of the Light of Christ within and therefore conceivest amiss of it for it is a true and perfect Rule unto which he that loveth doth truth cometh and bringeth his Deeds that they may be manifest that they are wrought in God Joh. 3. 21. it is a convincing Rule that pure and inward Law or Light which converts the Soul It doth not onely convict man of Sin but upon Repentance evidenceth unto him Remission And this doth not the Scriptures without to men particularly though they testify of the several Conditions which the Light guides the Soul through The Scriptures testifie against all Sin but do not shew unto men their particular Sins many read the Scriptures who over-look the Deceits of their own Hearts but if they Eye this Light of the Son of God within it will manifest unto them their particular Evils and shew them their Thoughts Motions and Actions and the Tendance of each so do not the Scriptures they cannot of themselves convince any as the divine Light can And this divine Light within discovers all the Temptations and mysterious Workings and Depths of Satan to that Soul that waits in it as they are met withall and as Satan attempts to insnare that the Soul may shun his Snares and Wiles upon all Occasions and in all Tryals and this does not the Letter without This Light within also as a perfect and immediate Rule of Faith directs the Soul in all the Operations of Faith against all the Innumerable Temptations and Tryals and Besetments of the Enemy and it opens an Inward Eye of Faith and is the Immediate Guide to see him who is Invisible through all but so is not the Scripture All which being seriously considered the Light within is the Rule of Faith and not the Scripture But if it be objected That the Scriptures being the Rule of Faith is not intended without the Help of the Spirit or divine Light in the Soul I answer This granteth that the Scriptures are not the Rule of Faith alone therefore that they are not to be taken as the Intire Rule of Faith they not being effectual without the Spirit whereas the Spirit is effectual without the Scriptutes and able of it self to lead into all Truth The Spirit or Heavenly Unction considered as a higher Degree Gift or Effusion of divine Life than that degree of Light that is given in common to all is attained unto only by those that faithfully improve the Life or Light in its less Appearance which in some degree appears in every man's Conscience T. H. I query whether all the Generations of Christians since Christ's time until within these very few Years be not eertainly lost and damned forasmuch as they acknowledged not this Light within as the true Christ p. 12. Answ. This shews thou hast very little Sense of all the Christians and their Acknowledgments who thus queriest of them Did not they acknowledge Christ in them the Immortal Word of Life and Light in them And was not Christ both their Life Light and Salvation And was not the Apostle Paul sent to turn the Gentiles from Darkness to Light And did not all the true Ministers preach Christ as God's Covenant given for a Light and Salvation to the Ends of the Earth But in thy dark Thoughts thou seest not the Drift of rheir Testimony but queriest whether all the Generations of Christians till within these few Years be not certainly lost and damned And yet thou wouldst be accounted a Christian in this thy Unchristian Work Sect. X. The Subject Understanding and Obeying
leave to receive the reward of thy work at the hand of God who is just will not let the guilty go unpunished Whereas thou T. H. seemest offended at us for saying Christ is within in whom as such we have living Faith as opposed to their Faith who know not him within but expect to be saved as believing in a Person without them as thy Phrase is p. 44. It appears this is the manner of thy Expectation and Belief expecting to be saved by Jesus as a Person without thee though thou hast no real Knowledge of him as such But it is to be minded how plainly before thou hast contradicted thy Faith as thus declared where in thy 24th page upon 2 Corinth 5. 16. thou dost thus paraphrase viz. Though I Paul when a Jew and in my unconverted State only knew Christ after a fleshly manner to be a King of the Jews and to deliver only from outward Bondage and Captivity yet henceforth from the time of my Conversion I know him so no more for now I know him according to that design of infinite Grace and Love which he came to carry on in the World in being a Saviour of Sinners from Sin Death and Hell which before I knew not Thus far thou Mark here thy Contradiction is plain one while believing in and expecting to be saved by him as a Person without another while from the Time of my Conversion I know him no more after a fleshly manner for now my Knowledge of him in being a Saviour from Sin c. is not after a fleshly manner but according to the design of infinite Grace and Love From whence it follows that he is not now known to be the absolute Saviour from Sin as a Person without or as considered after a fleshly manner but after a spiritual though he was truely a Saviour in the Dayes of his Flesh by the Power of the Father by which the Saving Work alwayes was and is inwardly effected And indeed his going away or dis-appearing after the Flesh was that his Appearance and Knowledge after the Spirit might be the more revealed and the Disciples might the more know and rely upon the Comforter even Christ's Spiritual Appearance within Sect. XIX The End of Christ's Coming Example and Suffering more truely owned by the Quaker then the Dipper AGain thy implying by Way of Question as if we owned that the Word did take Flesh and that the Flesh was crucified for no other End and Purpose then meerly to be an Example p. 47. is very false against us for our owning Christ in the Flesh to be a living Example does not argue that he took Flesh and was crucified for no other End and Purpose then meerly to be an Example for he came into the World both to bear witness to the Truth to shew Light to do the Works the Father sent him to do to war against the Power of Darkness and Wickedness to exalt the Divinity the Power of the Father and to glorifie him upon Earth to pass through and fulfil the first Covenant and end the Shadows thereof and to set up the new and the living Way that the second Covenant or Testament might be established and confirmed that the Living Ministry thereof might have its free Course being inforced above and beyond all the former Types Shadows and Vails under the first Covenant And so in offering himself up freely both to do his Fathers Will and to suffer for Man-kind he gave himself a Ransom for all to be testified of in due time As also he was an eminent Example and Pattern of Innocence and Piety through all which they that slite his Example have no Benefit in his Sacrifice nor are concerned in the Ends thereof otherwise then to their own Condemnation for Christ's Innocency and Righteousness even in the Dayes of his Flesh as openly manifest do both judge and condemn all the Hypocritical Professors of Christianity who refuse following his Example while they are applying the Ends of his Coming and Suffering Sect. XX. The Baptist's Ignorance and Cavil about Redemption and the Spiritual Discoveries of Christ and his Seed WHereas thou makest a peice of thy Dialogue p. 47. run thus viz. Qua. He viz. Christ comes to work Redemption Christi I query for whom or what did he work this Redemption Qua. There is a Seed to which the Promise of Redemption is which only wants Redemption Thus Nayler in his Book Love to the Lost. Answ. Thou perverts his Words for they are not That this Seed only wants Redemption but wherein only it s seen and received viz. that in the promised Seed Redemption is only seen and received by Man or the Creature as he fully after explains Chr. Nayler saith that Christ is the Election and the Elect Seed and Fox in his great Mystery the Seed hath been laden c. which Seed is the Hope Christ. Answ. If God was so prest as a Cart with Sheaves and his Spirit grieved by mens Sins is it otherwise with his Seed in them And it thou wert not willfully blind and hardened thou wouldst not raise such a Consequence from the Words before perverted by thee while the Scripture mentions the Seed under a two-sold Consideration 1st As to Christ to whom the Promises originally are as being Heir of all 2ly As to the Children of Promise the Children of the Kingdom the true Believers who are truely Israel and of Abraham's Seed according to the Faith Now know that Christ the promi ed Seed hath entred into Sufferings and Travel of Soul to bring forth his Seed as it s written He shall see his Seed he shall see of the Travel of his Soul and shall be satisfied So he came not to redeem or save himself as absurdly thou infers but to bring forth and redeem a Seed which shall serve him and be counted for a Generation And the Life of Christ as manifest in mortal Flesh hath pertaken of the Afflictions of the Upright in all Ages and the Spirit of God is grieved the just Principle oppressed and offended with mens Iniquities and Transgressions So Christ considered as a Seed and in that low Estate is capable of being formed in man both of being raised up in man by the Power of the Father of growing up as a tender Plant and as a Root out of dry Ground and so of receiving Power and Help from him as indeed every Seed that 's sown and every Plant that takes Root is capable of receiving Vertue and Nourishment according to its kind or else it cannot be quickned to Life grow or bring forth Fruit And such a Growth of the immortal Seed was both in Christ and in his People which must be owned if the Seed of the Kingdom within and the Spiritual Birth or forming of Christ within or he as a Seed or Plant of Renown be known and owned or a Suffering Crucifying Dying and Living with Christ be witnessed by man For Christ's Suffering Cross Death Resurrection
Sincere and Upright accompanied with an earnest reaching after Perfection as Paul did p. 51. Answ. What ever Perfection with respect to a full Apprehension or Knowledge was prest after by Paul as Phil. 3. 12 13. yet this his Perfection granted of Sincerity and Uprightness was sinless it was pure in Nature wherein he was capable of attaining a perfect Growth in spiritual Understanding And this is implyed in his pressing after Perfection while he was perfect as appears in his own Words But if in this Sence sincere and upright Men do earnestly reach after a sinless Perfection and that Paul did so then it is attainable otherwise both Paul and the rest did â—…rnestly strive after an Impossibility and this renders both their Praying Striving and Preaching in valid as yours is who put on People earnestly to reach after Perâ—…ction and yet tell them it is not attainable Upon Mat. 5. 〈◊〉 Be ye perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect thou presumest We intend not that we should be perfectly powerful wise and good as God is Answ. 1st We do not intend that we should be God but holy just and good men renewed after his own Image which is perfect 2ly Though not so perfectly powerful and wise as God is yet while thou withal excludes being good as God is thou art contradictory in saying the meaning of the Text is Be Merciful as your Heavenly Father is Merciful that is Love your Enemies do good to them that hate you p. 51. these are not intelligibly consistent That we must not be good as God is and yet Merciful as he is that is love our Enemies c. I would know if that Soul is not endued with the Goodness of God that is endued with his Mercy and Love so as to do good to enemies Was it not a plain Caracter of being his Children when they did so love their Enemies and do good to them that did hate them See Math. 5. 44 45. But this perfect Resemblance of the Heavenly Father such Sin-pleasers and pleaders as T. H. will not admit of in this Life who is so far from this Love and Goodness towards Enemies that his Enmity leads him to abuse bespaâ—…ter and defame such of us who never owed him or his Friends ever any ill-will in the World But when doth he expect this divine Resemblance of God or sinless Perfection to be brought forth It doth appear in Answer to the Question stated by him thus viz. Where wouldst thou be perfectly free from Sin if not in this Life His Answer is in Heaven p. 50. Reply He would be perfectly free from Sin in Heaven as he pretends but opposeth Perfection being attainable in this Life accounting that it causeth much Pride Presumption hinders all holy Fear Humility Watchfulness and industrious Endeavours to Persons in a holy Course whereas this all tends to a perfect Life But sufficiently hath he contradicted this his sinful Doctrine against a perfect Freedom where he confesses p. 24 That Christ came to carry on in the World the Design of insinite Grace and Love in being a Saviour of Sâ—…ers from Sin Death and Hell Note here he hath given a deadly Blow to his own Imperfect lame and Sinfull Cause for if Christ came into the World to save Sinners from Sin and to redeem us from all Iniquity then to be so saved is attainable in this Life for Christ is able perfectly to do the Work which he came for that is to save from Sin and to redeem from all Iniquity Again T. H. in his Forgery deals very corruptly according to his â—…onted manner in stating the Christian and the Quaker thus speaking viz. Chr. If thou canst prove a perfect Freedom from Sin 's Inherency c. remember thou must prove it by Scriptures or Instances Qua. I will prove it by both First By Scriptures Phil. 3. 15. Math. 5. 48. Secondly By Instances Many of our Friends do witness it p. 50 51. Reply Herein most falsly and abusively he hath acted the Quakers speaking his own Notorious Forgery as Prooâ—… They have no Reason to chuse him for their mouth for what needed they bring any Instances of themselves for any Proof when they are left to prove Perfection by Scriptures or Instances while the Scriptures plainly prove it And let me tell him it is not our manner of arguing with our Opposers to tell them that many of our Friends do witness Perfection knowing not only that to be the thing which they seek to reproach us by but also that to plead the Verity of Principles from the meer Credit of Persons asserting them to be no prevalent Proof nor Effect any Conviction while the Persons themselves are slited and abused But our Adversary having thus falsly acted the Quaker as before as saying many of our Friends witness Perfection he declines the Scriptures for it and falls upon personal reviling and to express to the World some wrong Expressions and Mistakes of Persons If he rightly state them which I much question because his many notorious Abuses Sect. XXII Tho. Hicks his groundless Calumny and malitious Railing against G. Whitehead NOw we come to his Railing and Slaâ—…der against G. Whitehead viz. That he is guilty of Deceit and Falshood in matter of Fact and that he told him he was a Knave that is he was a false deceitful man p. 53. Answ. Here I shall take leave to answer for my self therefore understand Reader what he pretends as his Reason for this abusive Language to me I find two things he pretends for it First He accuseth me with denying mine Opinions when charged with them 2ly He that shall give a false Relation of what another man asserts and does it wifully is false and Deceitful But thâ—…s he accuseth me and why so But because I acknowledged Explicatioâ—…s to be given to his Propositions yet gives not the least him what tâ—…ose Explications were p. 53. Reply To the first what I did deny I still do deny as none of my Opinions as stated by T. H. in his accusing the Quakers That they deny the Person of Christ his Offices Satiâ—…action and the Râ—…surrection of the Body I do recharge these upon him as his Lyes and Slanders forged and brought forth in Envy and Darkness as I did in the Paper and publick Debate between us and in so doing I do not deny any Opinion or Tenent of mine or my Friends And he dealt most dis-ingenuously in not laying down my own Words to prove that I denyed the Person of Christ or his Offices Satisfaction and the Resurrection But instead thereof was it either ingenuous or honest to bring my â—…dversary T. D. his Pamphlet stiled a Sinopsis which falsly accuseth me with saying there is no Resurrection from the Dead for Proof Most falsly instancing my Answer to W. Burnet in which Answer quite contrary to what I am accused oâ—… I have given a plain Confession to the man Christ his Offices Satisfaction and the Resurrection
and thus to limit and circumscribe God and his Light or Shining to be so and in like manner as the Sun and its Beams doth maniâ—…est such gross Apprehensions of God as he did before in expecting to see him with bodily Eyes And this relates to the old Heresie of the Anthropomorphites or Monks in the desarts of Aegypt as also to that of the present Mugletonians who imagine God to be a personal or bodily Existence circumscribed as to place denying him to be an infinite Spirit yet thus far I will admit of his Simile by a Reason of the contrary that as the natural created Sun immediately sends forth its Beams or Rayes which are natural and do influence the Earth with the Vertue of the Sun so the eternal increated Spiâ—…itor Word doth shine and shew forth its own immediate increated divine Light and Vertue in the Hearts and Souls of Man-kind as the Sun is natural and created so is its Light or Shining and as God the eternal Word is increated and super-natural so is his immediate Shining or Light in the Hearts and Souls of Man-kind and as a man's Eye is directly set towards the Sun in the least Beam thereof shining through any Crevis into any Dungeon Cell or other oscure place it sees directly to the Sun it self so the Eye of the Soul being directe dtowards God by the least Appearance of his divine and immediate Shining or Illumination therein it hath a Sight of God and the Soul thereby comes to seel of his Vertue and Power in waiting upon him And for this man to conclude that this Light of the eternal Word cannot teach and reveal unto man the Lord Jesus Christ p. 50. is to deny Jesus Christ to be the Word or that true Light that enlightneth every Man whereas his Illumination directs man immediately to himself as its eyed and minded As also he is as narrow shallow and partial in concluding the Light will not reveal unto man his Saviour without the Help of the Scriptures p. 50. this is a strange undervaluing of the Light of Christ what then did the Scriptures proceed from Was it not the Light And what shall become of all those Nations and People that have not the Scriptures if this be true It is none of our Assertion that Christ in his Death and Sufferings was but only a Pattern or Example of that which must be wrought over again in us for though we own him to have left an Example yet he was more then an Example and he did not only end the Types but was a Sacrifice and Offering for Man-kind and opened the new and living Way giving Testimony of God's free Love towards all and making Way for the enforcing of the new Testament or Covenant of Life But yet that either all or any men are cleansed or justified or saved meerly by the outward Sufferings Crucifixion Death or Blood shed of Christ the Scripture proves not but by Christ himself and his Blood Life Spirit and Power nor yet that men are acquitted or saved by their outward Application thereof And this man to his own Confutation confesseth to the Power of Christ s Spirit being risen in us for our Sanctification and Renovation as well as Christ was raised from the dead for our Justification p. 54. then all is not fully doneby his Death without them but both the End and Mystery of the Cross Sufferings and Death of Christ without 〈◊〉 be known and fulfilled within see Philip. 3. 10. although this man seems not willing to hear of Christ's being a Pattern or Example of that which must be wrought over again in us p. 50 yet in Contradiction to this he saith The Lord Jesus Christ hath wrought Redâ—…mption and Salvation for me and revealed this by his Word and Spirit and 〈◊〉 it in me p. 52. it s well that in any Measure he is made to grant to this inward Work of Christ. IX Further about their Ordinances His pleading for their shadowy and carnal Ordinances to continue under this Notion viz. Under his Shadow I have with the Spouse sat down and his Fruit is and hath been sweet unto my tâ—…ste p. 53. This is a very impertinent Instance and altogether improper to reckon Bread Wine and Water-Baptisin that Shadow of the Souls Beloved to wit Christ that the Spouse sat under seeing the Lord himselâ—… saith I will be a Shadow from the Heat and a Refuge from the Storm And we are so far from believing these his carnal Ordinances to be the direct Shadow of the Souls Beloved in that neer Sence that we look upon him he is yet to prove them Appointments Institutions and Ordinances of Christ or of Necessity to continue in the Church notwithstanding his spiritual Coming and Revelation which he hath not much less that they are spiritual or of a Spiritualness as he saith p. 59. and 60. which he hath manifestly contradicted in granting They are but the Sign the Shadow the Shell and Christ the Substance p. 53 54. For my part I don't look upon either John's Baptism or the Supper of Christ and his Disciples at which they had the Passover to be Institutions and Ordinances originally appointed by Christ or enjoyned to all that should succeed in the Gospel and true Church but rather though they were not directly enjoyned by the Law of Moses as we say modo forma yet that they did more naturally relate to that former dispensation of Shadows then to that of the Gospel and new Covenant and that John's Baptism was rather for a Consummation of the Jews divers Sprinklings and Washings under the Law comprehending them in order to end them and Christ's eating of the Passover and drinking with his Disciples Luke 32. to be as a Consummation of the Jews Feasts under the Law viz. that of the Passover and others according to the Relation given at large concerning the Ecclesiastical Rites of the ancienâ—… Hebrews by T. Goodwin in his Antiquities of the â—…ews called Moses and Aaron p. 86 87 88 89 90 91. and 〈◊〉 and Christ saying As often as you do this is not a â—…ommand and This do in Remembrance of me and 〈◊〉 the Lord's Death till he come does limit a time for its Discontinuance for till he come must either respect his next Coming or render not only his coming after he was risen but his spiritual Coming and Revelation in his Saints no Comings which were absurd and Auti-Christian and there was a time to shew forth his Life as well as his Death Hiâ—… saying The Sign and thing signified God hath joyned together p. 54. is again contradicted by his granting a Personmay find a Shell and have no Kernel in it p. 54. To which I add That God hath so joyned the Sign or Shadow and the Substance together as so to continue I deny or that the Scripture any where so saith but as for these Baptists Shells Husks and Shadows they are both dry and empty and the Lord is
Spiritually minded come to see the Glory of God and Jesus or the Son oâ—… Man at his right hand XIV Of Perfection H. G. WE do not believe 't is possible to attain to such a Degree of Perfection as to be as pure from Sin as Jesus Christ was p. 62. I know not what such should call one the Name of the Lord for c. p. 63. H. G. Contra. We can experience the Power of Christ's Spirit risen in us for our Sanctification and Renovation p. 54. He doth adopt regenerate make others Children of God by the Effectual Workings of his blessed Spirit in their Hearts by which they are interrested into all the Priviledges Promises and Blessings of the Covenant of Grace p. 91 92. Anim. We believe that the Spirit and Power of Christ working in our Hearts is able to sanctifie throughout and his Blood to cleanse from all Sin and that in Christ who is the Covenant of Grace all the Promises of God are yea and amen and that Covenant is both a Covenant of Forgiveness and therein Sin is taken away as God hath promised Jer. 31. I will cleanse them from all their Iniquity Jer. 33. 8. Ezek. 36. 25. All things are possible with God and we can do all things through Christ that strengthneth us Phil. 4. 13. who commanded Be ye perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect and its possible through his Power Aid to keep his Commands otherwise for what End are they given out to his Church and People and for what End should they pray to take away all Iniquity On whom we believe he does not impose Impossibilities but to such as dwell in the Love of God his Commands are not grievous but joyous XV. The Light within above an Historical Knowledge WHereas to undervalue the Light within which all Men have H. G. affirms that none can make appear that ever any Heathen Aethiopian Moor or Infidel in any remote Parts that never heard the Scripture c. That ever did attain meerly by that Light within to the Knowledge of one Jesus of Nazareth that was crucified without the Gates of Jerusalem that meerly by the Help and Guidance of that Light within came to find out so much as the Name or historical Knowledge of a cruciefid Jesus p. 70. Answ. 1. As an historical Knowledge and Profession concerning Christ and his Sufferings in the Flesh cannot save you so it s very uncharitable in you Baptists to condemn all Nations that have it not meerly for want of the History or that historical Knowledge 2. Though you have a historical Faith and Profession of Jesus as he came and suffered in the Flesh I deny that this Faith will either save you for they have as much Faith at Rome or that you have from thence any real Knowledge of Christ either as in the Flesh or in the Spirit either as crucified as put to Death or as living and reigning It s still your Mistake to count your dark Opinions and litteral Notions the Light of the Son of God Nay if you have no further Faith and Knowledge of him then what 's meerly historical and litteral If you have not a spiritual and divine Knowledge of Christ as inwardly revealed you 'll dye in your Sin and perish for lack of Knowledge And many of those called Heathens who follow the Help and Guidance of the Light of Christ within shall come from the East and from the West and from the North and from the South nd shall sit down with Abraham Isaac and Jacob in the Kingdom as Children of Faith and Heirs of Promise who have believed God and obeyed his Light in them when you and such like litteral Professors shall be utterly rejected unless you return to Christ's Light within and believe and wait in it to know Christ's inward and spiritual Appearance and Revelation 3. In the Gospel preacht to Abraham in whose Seed all Nations should be blessed It was foreseen that God would justifie the Heathen through Faith and accordingly Christ was absolutely promised and given for a Light to the Gentiles to be God's Salvation to the Ends of the Earth that he might say to the Prisoners go forth and them that are in Darkness shew yourselves Isa. 42. and Ch. 49. Now observe that the Promise of Christ both for a Light to the Gentiles and Salvation to the Ends of the Earth and himself to speak to the Prisoners to go forth c. it s absolute and not restrained or limitted to the spreading of Scripture nor to any such Condition as to be a Light and Salvation or to speak only to such as get the Bible and have the Scriptures or an historical Knowledge and Profession of Jesus Christ but he is given both for a Light to the Heathen and Salvation to the Ends of the Earth and so to call forth the Prisoners where the Scriptures are not he being in himself absolute and perfect and so able to be whatever he is promised of God and this Salvation is absolutely placed upon the Son of God who is given both for a Light a Leader God's Covenant and Salvation and therefore he is to be followed obeyed and depended on for Life and Salvation 4. Moreover It s possible to have both the Sufferings and Glory of Christ revealed by his Light and Spirit without the Scriptures seeing the Spirit of Christ shewed and testified aforehand unto the Prophets of his Sufferings and of the Glory that should follow 1 Pet. 1. 11. to be sure they who first wrote Scripture of these things aforehand had them first discovered or opened unto them by the Spirit 5. And when Nebuchadnezer said Lo I see four Men loose walking in the midst of the Fire and they have no Hurt and the Form of the fourth is like the Son of God Dan. 3. 25. How came this Heathen to have any such Impression or Similitude of the Son of God in his Mind as thus to speak of the Son of God or of the fourth as represented to him like the Son of God And what Scripture could he have for this pray you Or for Nebuchadnezer and Darius to speak so truly and admirably as they did of the Kingdom and Dominion of the most high God Dan. 4. 3. and Chap. 6. 26. Let the narrow-Spirited Litteralists and partial Predestinators who would place all true Knowledge upon the Letter and confine it within the Compass of a few Professors of Scripture consider these things 6. But seeing that Christ dyed for all Men tasted Death for every Man and gave himself a Ransom for all God doth therefore no doubt afford a Way for the universal Conveyance of the Vertue and blessed Effects inwardly of his Death and Blood to Man-kind and that is his divine Light though many have not the outward Description thereof XVI His unlearned Question AS to H. G's Question p. 70. viz. I shall only ask this one Question what things and other Signs were those which Jesus did
true Union with him and Knowledge of him to experience his Indwelling as he dwelleth in us and we in him if we keep his Commandments and thus the true Believer hath the Witness in himself which that thou mightst experience was thy Sister 's wholsom Advice to thee to believe in the Light that reproves for Sin which enlightens every one that cometh into the World and so thou mightst in Love and Humility have received the Witness in thy self which if thou hadst obeyed thou durst never have prayed so wickedly as God forbid that ever I should own their Principle of the Light in all contrary to thy pretended Praises and Hallelujah to God for the Witness within neither coâ—…ldst thou have opposed the Witness in the Believer to the Light which reproves for sin which enlighteth every man as thou hast done H. G. This Witness through Grace I in measure do Experience not that I believe in that Light which every man that cometh into the World is inlightened with for Life and Salvation that is insufficient c. pag. 19. Answ. If thou rejectest the Gift or Measure of the Light or Life of Christ within thou rejectest the saithfull Witness Christ the Giver and canst not know him to be thy Saviour while thou art disobedient to his Light within and Christ and his Light in man are so inseperable that he who obeys and believes in his Light within he and his Faith must needs have a dependance upon Christ the Enlightner who is the Object Author and Finisher of Faith and so upon God who is the Fountain of Light who shineth in man's heart to give the knowledge of his Glory in the Face of his Son and hereby is the benefit of him as the one Offering and the vertue of his Blood known that both Sanctifies and makes Perfect XII His Groundless Comparison and Distinction between the Light of God in Man and the Light of Christ or Gospel further Refuted ANd whereas in thy other Book from Rom. 1. 19. and Chap. 2. 14 15. thou callest the Law or Light of God in men The Law or Light of the Moon to Guide their Paths by which they are taught their duty to God in morrals but understand nothing of the glorious Mystery of the Gospel pag. 6â—… To this I Answer 1. Those Gentiles mentioned in Rom. 1. had a Sight and Knowledge of the Invisible things of God even his Eternal Power and God-head ver 19 20. was this but the Light of the Moon and was there nothing of the Gospel or Mystery of it in this whereas the very reason of their becoming foolish vain in their Imaginations darkned and reprobated in their minds was that because that when they knew God they glorified him not as God ver 21. they did not like to retain God in their knowledge ver 28. Therefore if they had continued in the Light given them glorified him as God and retained him in their knowledge they had been preserved unto Salvation out of that dark reprobate state and out of those gross evils which they fell into 2. Those Gentiles mentioned Rom. 2. 15. were accused or excused according to that Light or Law of God in their hearts and the secrets of them and all men to be Judged by Jesus Christ according to the Gospel but could this be or were it Just if there were no Law nor Light of Jesus Christ and Gospel given men are they and their secrets to be judged by a Law or Light which they never had in secret for my Part I know none so gross and partial as to affirm it on any serious Thoughts or Consideration 3. If the Light of God and his Knowledge be but the Light of the Moon and the Light of Christ the Light of the Sun how doth he demonstrate this difference between God and Christ and the Light of each and wherein the Glory of the one so far exceedeth the other or can any suppose there is a Light proceeding from Christ as man that so far excels the Light flowing from him as he is God or the Eternal Word as the Light of the Sun doth the Light of the Moon what Scripture hath H. G. for this distinction are not God and Christ and holy Spirit One and one Eternal Light and Fulness in their own Being and so the Light immediately shining or flowing thence unto man's Heart and Conscience one Divine Light though manifest by degrees and in several measures being still one in kind in man And this which H. G. calleth the Law or Light of the Moon is granted to be 1st The Light of Jesus Christ as the Eternal Word 2dly That which may be known of God manifest in men 3dly That Light which gives the Light and Knowledge of God and his Eternal Power 4dly The Law written in the Gentiles hearts who were a Law to themselves to which I add If men truely believe in and obey the Light of the Eternal Word in them and retain the sence and Knowledge of God as therein they receive it they will find Preservation and Acceptance with God for is the Improvement of any more then what 's given required XIII His belying us with denying the Man Christ Jesus to cloak his own Absurdity and Ignorance of Christ and his Being AGain H. G. To prove thy slanders 1. That we deny the man Christ Jesus 2. That we are found daily in the Sight of all Persons denying that man to be Christ who was born of the Virgin c. pag. 20 21. Thou judgest us insolent for saying we are falsly accused and guilty of this If it be absurd as we judge it is to say Christ doth Consist of a human Body of Flesh and Bone pag. 21. which is thy own absurdity To these I say Though we never deny'd the man Christ Jesus nor him to be Christ that was born of the Virgin according to the Flesh yet I must still count it absurd to say That Christ doth Consist or is made up of a human Body of Flesh and Bone for that 1. because Christ the Son of God was and had a Being before he took upon him that Flesh or Body in the Virgin 2. Because that when he took upon him that Body and even in the dayes of the Flesh he was spirit as well as had Flesh. 3. In that he is ascended up where he was before and far above all Heavens and is glorified with the same Glory that he had with the Father before the World began 4. He was before all things and by him all things consist this is truely our Christ and Saviour But If your Christ doth consist of a human or earthly Body of Flesh and Bone our Christ who consisteth of quickning spirit and heavenly Body of divine Life and Light a spiritual and glorious body is above you and yours so we must leave you Anabaptists with your earthly Christ consisting of a human Body of Flesh and Bone together with your empty and lifeless Shadows
disobedient another while only those who have a living and sound Faith and are sincerely obedient who thereby are interested in Christ's Righteousness With this I agree but not with the other which declares the Guilty and Disobedient Just or Innocent p. 91. and what then must the Guilt be charged upon Christ who offered up himself a Lamb without Spot to God and was a sweet smelling Savour to him of whom all our Obedience ought to savour that by him we may Offer up living Sacrifices unto God Both we and our Actions must Savour of his Unction and not of Pollution Sin or Guilt if we be Justified or accepted in the Beloved Whereas he accuseth G. W. with teaching Justification by Faith in Christ and the Works that follow Faith without Christ's Righteousness Imputed p. 91. The End of his Charge is false without Christ's Righteousness imputed are his own Words and Forgery against me and not mine for I have both owned and confessed the Real and Scriptural Sense of Imputation in the 65th Page of Divin of Christ. first Part and several other Places therein The blessed Man's partaking of Christ's Righteousness through Faith and that Justification is in the Righteousness of Christ by Faith in him and that this true and living Faith and the Righteousness of it is reckoned or imputed to the true Believer yet we do not grant that Sinners or polluted Persons in that State are cloathed with this Righteousness or that it is imputed to them as theirs whilst they are out of it These were my Words which clear me from his Charge although he adds thereto that I say Faith in Christ and Works that follow without any mention of Christ's holy Life and Sufferings p. 92. which is false again and the contrary may be often seen in my said Book Divin of Christ. For 1st Living Faith in Christ cannot be without the Participation of Christ's holy Life Vertue and Effects of his Sufferings and Blood which sprinkleth the Conscience cleanseth from Sin c. 2dly We are by Faith in him spiritually influenced with a Sence of his Sufferings Travil of Soul and Fruit of his Intercession therein I bear in my Body the Dying of the Lord Jesus that the Life also of Jesus may be manifest in my mortal Flesh. 3dly In spiritually eating of his Flesh and drinking of his Blood we receive of his Life in us do come to live to God in his Love and Favour and so we partake of Christ AS the one Offering Sacrifice or Propitiation that makes holy in whom God comes near to us in Mercy and we to him in a holy Life and this is the one Offering by which he hath forever perfected them that are sanctified whereof the Holy Ghost beareth Witness unto us Heb. 10. 15. Object You have not from the Beginning of your Life to the End perfectly obeyed the Law what have you to say why you should not bear the Curse p. 92. Answ. This is an impertinent Objection and unsutable for him that does not believe perfect Obedience to Christ attainable in any Part of our Life either Beginning or latter Endâ—… But God will not bring this Charge against them whose Sins are forgiven and blotted out to be remembred no more in the new Covenant who since they have received Remission and Justification of Life have the Answer and Testimony of a good Consciense to plead which gives Boldness in the Day of Judgment the Heart being sprinkled from an evil Conscience there is a drawing near to God in full Assurance of Faith if our Heart condemn us not then have we Considence towards God Howbeit Upon the Charge before as S. S. his chief Objection depends much of his Work and what he pleads to this as his only Defence is Christ's Holy Life and Sufferings Obedience to the Death c. not Sanctification nor Christ's Righteousness or Life inherent in us or the Answer of a Good Conscience c. And why so why thinks he cannot this acquit us or render us acceptable to God S. S. In justifying God doth judge us by the Law though by the Gospel also To be Righteous in a legal Sense is to be invested with a sinless Righteousness from the Beginning of Life to the End thereof this the Law requires it doth require Perfection not only in the End of our Lives but in the middle also and in the Beginning p. 92 93. But the Breach of this sayes he will be the Accusation or Charge that the Law or Justice will bring against us at the Day of Judgment p. 50. Rep. The Man runs upon a Mistake and thereupon makes his Apologies and Defence for there will be no Occasion for God to bring this Charge against his Elect or those whom he hath justified at the Day of Judgment for 1st Against a Righteous Man there is no Law neither doth the Gospel judge such as Transgressors all their Dayes as is vainly imagined And how should you be justified while you are judged both by Law and Gospel Doth not the Gospel acquit and clear such as in the Faith receive it from the Condemnation of the Law that being justified by Faith they may have Peace with God 2dly They who are pardoned of Sins past and justified by Christ from all those things from which they could not be justified by the Law of Moses are received into a Covenant of â—…ace Mercy Forgiveness Love Peace and Union with God for such is the new Covenant wherein God will remember their Iniquities no more 3dly They who are thus justified and received into Covenant with God have passed from Death to Life from Condemnation to Jâ—…stification through the Law are become dead unto the Law that Christ might live in them and the Life they live is by the Faith of the Son of God which Faith purifies the Heart and the Mystery of it is held in a pure Conscience 4thly The Gospel is preached to them that are dead viz. in Sin That they might be judged as Men in the Flesh but justified after God in the Spirit And God's sending his Son in the Likeness of sinful Flesh was that Sin might be condemned in the Flesh that the Righteousness of the Law might be fulfilled in us who walk not after the Flesh but after the Spirit Rom. 8. Therefore Justice will not at the Day of Judgment charge us with Transgression and Imperfection from the beginning of Life to the End They that are come into Covenant with God who therein are in a Justified Condition have this to plead We have known and believed the Love that God hath to us God is Love and he that dwelleth in Love dwelleth in God and God in him Herein is our Love made Perfect that we may have Boldness in the Day of Judgment because as he is so are we in this World 1 Joh. 4. 16 17. And doth not this perfect Love and Conformity to his Image which gives this Boldness in the day of Judgment spring
and after a full Satisfaction and Payment made to the Prince in his stead by a Person of Intrest with him Could it be Just in the Prince to detain his Inheritance from him Or Suppose the Surety hath made full Payment and Satisfaction in the Debtors stead both to what Law and Severity could demand Could the Creditor justly detain the Debtor in Prison for some great and earâ—…est Solicitation to be made by his Surety for him Or were it proper for the Person for whom the Satisfaction is thus made to cry out Good Sr. forgive me my Debts c. if all past present and to come be fully payed by the Surety And yet those Persons that are of this Opinion pray to God to forgive them their Trespasses or Debts as they forgive others c. but is their forgiving of Debts either a Casting the Debtors or their Sureties into Prison till they have payed the uttermost Farthing Surely that is not Forgiveness whereas the Intercession made to God doth acknowledg his Dominion Power and Justice as having been offended and a Subjection due to him and also his Grace as that which Man oweth due Obedieâ—…ce and Respect to Notwithstanding this man who has pleaded such a kind of Satisfaction by Justice or Wrath punishing their Sins in Christ he is not only Rigid or Severe but Partial in his Opinion like a Sect-Maker limiting this Satisfaction and the Extent of saving Grace only to a few and yet that few not allowed the Priviledge to be delivered from the Being of Sin in this Life In his saying That This Satisfaction was designed for all them who through special Grace in time believe these all are delivered here from the Guilt and reigning Power of Sin and so are out of their Fetters and shall hereafter be delivered from the Being of Sin Rep. That Satisfaction that was made and Testimony of God's Love and Mercy that was given by the Sacrifice and Death of Christ and as he is the Propitiation it was for ALL Men by the Grace of God he tasted Death for every Man for the Sins of the whole World he dyed for ALL MEN not only Presbyterians or a few particular Predestinarians but all Men or Mankind in general That as many as live should not live unto themselves but unto him that dyed and rose again 2 Cor. 5. 15. Who his own self bare our Sins in his own Body on the Tree that we being Dead unto Sin should live unto Righteousness 1 Pet. 2. 24. And see verse 21 22 23. It is plain that Christ's Suffering under the Burthen of Sin and Dying for all Men pointed at an other End and had another kind of Embleme in it then Mens living in Sin all their Dayes or their not expecting Freedom from the Being of Sin till after Death this is not to suffer or dye with Christ nor to come to the Blood of Sprinkling which only frees from the Guilt of Sin by sprinkling and purging the Conscience from the Being of it The Ignorance and Absurdity of the contrary Sin-pleasing Doctrine is sufficiently detected before And why Presbyterians Satisfaction of Revengeful Wrath in your stead or the Death of Christ as Satisfaction in your stead to free you from everlasting Burning and forgive your Sins Why for you more then the whole World besides Did not Christ dye for all Men as well as you And yet none are pardoned or in a justified State until they come Christ to ease them and they to have true and living Faith in his Name and Power and so to be led by that eternal Spirit by which he offered up himself a Lamb without Spot to God Obj. Nor can this Writer nominate one of us that encourageth Men to take Liberty of sinning from the Consideration of Christ's Satisfaction the Lord convince and humble Slanderers Rep. What ever you think or pretend your Doctrines are Sin-pleasing and give Liberty therein your disputing for Imperfection and Sin all your Dayes your justifying the Sinner or the Unjust while justly condemned in himself by the Light of Christ your setting sorth Christ as made the Subject oâ—… God's Wrath and Revenge in your stead and saying that divine Justice which you term vindictive or revengeful Wrath was satisfied in your stead by punishing your Sin to the full in Christ and that thereby you are secured from Hell c. though you continue in Sin or uphold the Being of it all your Dayes and deserve to have your Failings and Infirmities cast as Dung into your Faces as is confest and yet you count your selves imputatively Righteous pardoned and justified c. even while you are saying Let us with Paul abhor all Sanctification in us c. S. S. p. 102. Let us place no Confidence in Sanctification c. p. 103. The very Nature and Tendence of these and such Doctrines is Sin-pleasing and soothing and grateful to Hypocrites encouraging them to take Liberty of Sinning all their Life time if they can but be so credulous or self-confident as to believe they are Elect Persons and secured from Damnation on the Account of your Notion of Satisfaction that pretends and imputes Revengeful Wrath and Severity to Christ but Ease to your selves in your Sins But this your empty devised Notion will prove neither your Justification nor Security in the great approaching Day of God which shall declare every man's Work wherein he will judge the Secrets of Men by Christ Jesus according to the Gospel and every Man must give an Account of himself to God and be Rewarded according to the Deeds done in the Body whether they be Good or whether they be Evil AN APPENDIX Wherein The Controversie is summed up and resolved partly by Way of Question and Answer with a plain Intimation of my Sense thereof as relating unto the 2d 3d and 4th Chapters before Quest. 1. WHat was the Nature and Extent of Christ's Sufferings Answ. Not an undergoing infinite Wrath or vindictive Justice so called at the Hands of his Father for that is the just Reward of Rebels against God Christ and free Grace but 1st The Weight and Burthen of Sin and Grief of Soul because thereof as seeing the Punishment and Wrath incurred by the Rebellious 2. The Fury of his Persecutors in his undergoing that cruel Death of the Cross inflicted on his Body by wicked Hands and Murtherers so that his Sufferings were two-fold both inwâ—…ard and outward 3. His real Desire Travil of SouI and good Will through all was for the Benefit and Good of all Mankind even for the whole World for whom he suffered and dyed that all who receive him might be spiritually influenced with his holy Life and partake of his Mind and Will which stood in subjection to the Father Quest. 2. What was the true Signification Intent and Ends of Christ's Sufferings Answ. 1. To evince God's long Suffering towards all men for whom Christ gave himself a Ransom for a Testimony in due
himself his by himself purging our Sins the Will of God sanctifying us through the offering of the Body of Jesus Christ once for all c. as being a Sacrifice of far more Value then those Typical ones under the Law which he fully answered and ended though they were said to make Attonement Reconciliation for Sins of Ignorance that they might be forgiven and the Scape-Goat to bear away the Iniquities and Transgressions of the Children of Israel Lev. 4. 16. 23. And did not the killing and sacrificing of Bulls Goats and Heifers typifie or figure forth the killing and destroying that corrupt beastly Nature and Enmity in man which is for Death and Destruction and which those Beasts were as a lively Embleme of Seeing hereby God was pleased in a Way of Condescension to their low Capacities to shew a Pacification or Expiation to express his Forbearance suspending the severe Execution of the Law and Willingness to pardon Iniquity and to pass by former Transgressions and be reconciled when they afflicted their Souls and offer'd up burnt-Offering in the Day of Attonement as both were required much more hath God declared himself reconciled to us in commending his Love to us in that while we were Enemies Christ dyed and so he hath shewed forth his Kindness and free Love as willing to pass by and pardon the Sins of the World upon true Repentance in his setting forth his Son to be a Propitiation through Faith in his Blood and in his being in Christ reconciling the World unto himself not imputing their Trespasses unto them which was both in his Forbearance commending his Love and Good-Will in his Son unto the World and sending his Son that the World through him might be saved Let it be seriously here minded 1. That those Scriptures relating to Christ's Death Reconciliation Sanctification and putting away Sin as by Way of Sacrifice c. as Joh. 1. 29. Rom. 5. 10. Heb. 10. 10. Chap. 1. 3. Col. 1. 22. which intimate the Work as if universally done yet it is with respect unto the general Favour and Good-Will of God in Christ as by the which Will we Believers are sanctified through the Offering of the Body of Jesus and so we are said to be reconciled in the Body of his Flesh through Death Withall note that it was the manner of the Hebrews Prophets and Apostles to speak many Things in the Spirit of Prophecy as done or past before they were accomplished in the proper Subjects God having an Eye of Pitty and Compassion open to lost Man for his Redemption even before it was fulfilled whereby he saw and lookt beyond the former Transgressions Sins and Infirmities for the Sin of the World is not actually taken away purged out or put away as to its Nature and Be ing nor are Men in a State of Reconciliation or Friendship while actual Sinners and Enemies in their Minds but as they come to be converted and sanctified by the Spirit Therefore God's reconciling the World in and by his Son shews his gracious Will and was intended conditionally to be fulfilled in them viz. Upon Faith and Obedience It was done so as with respect unto Christ as the first Fruits and with an Eye to the Condition before it was actually fulfilled in them and what was outwardly signified as to the Good of Man by Christ's Sufferings and Death in the Flesh as our great Exemplar in his Obedience and Holiness is inwardly to be fulfilled and answered in Spirit as to the Principle End and Design of God therein as for Instance God was in Christ reconciling the World to himself yet the Apostle added We pray you in Christ's stead be you reconciled to God 2 Cor. 5. 19 20. And to the Saints at Colos. You that were sometimes alienated and Enemies in your Minds by Wicked Works yet now hath he reconciled in the Body of his Flesh through Death to present you Holy and Unblameable and Unreproveable in his Sight If ye continue in the Faitle grounded and setled c. Colos. 1. 21 22 23. Mark on this Condition they were reconciled and to be presented to God Not as being Enemies and in wicked Works But as made Friends by Conversion to and continuing in the Faith And God shewing forth Mercy to all and universal Pardon of Sin past in and for the sake of his Son Christ Jesus he being the Propitiation for the Sins of the whole World declares his not imputing their Trespasses unto them according to Severity but his being reconciled to them that they may be reconciled to him Finally Because God was in Christ reconciling the World to himself and because he commended his Love to us while we were Sinners and we reconciled c. by the Death of his Son as our Representative If from hence any infer That their Sin being not imputed therefore they are justified by the Imputation of Christ's Death and Blood though they continue in Sin and Disobedience to him and remain Unsanctified I must deny their Consequence and tell them that there is a two-fold non-Imputation of Sin or under a two-fold consideration Sin is said not to be imputed 1st with respect to God's Forbearance while he suspends Execution and doth not cut off 〈◊〉 in their Sins when yet the Nature and Being of Sin is not destroyed nor purged away expecting their Repentance c. In this Sense David when he said I have sinned Nathan toâ—…d him The Lord hath put away thy Sin Thou shalt not dye 2 Sam. 12. 13. Yet this proves him not then at that time in an absolute and compleat Justified Estate or his Sin blotted out for aâ—…ter this he both implored Mercy intreated Forgiveness and passed through great Judgment Difficulty and Trouble under the Weight and Burthen of his Iniquity 2. A Non Imputation of Sin in a better and higher State as where the Miâ—…d and Spirit is sanctified and cleared and Sin really done away and wholy blotted out where the Lord Imputeth not Iniqâ—…ity but Righteousness as Blessed is he whose Transgression is forgiven whose Sin is covered Blessed is the Man unto whom the Lord Imputeth not Iniquity and in whose Spirit there is NO GUILE Psa. 32. 1 2. It were unreasonable to think that all to whom Sin is â—…ot imputed iâ—… the first Sense are in a Justified State for then were the whole World Justified for God was in Christ reconciling the World unto himself not imputing their â—…respasses But in the latter Sense they are Justified being Washed Sanctified and Justified in the Name oâ—… the Lord Jeâ—…us and â—…y the Spirit of our God 1 Cor. c. 11. and such as in wâ—…ose Spirit there is no Guile And so no Condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus who walk not after the Flesh but aâ—…ter the Spirit Rom. 8. 1 2. Therefore Justification And if it be further queried viz. Quest. How doth it consist with God's Justice and Truth which alwaies required perfect Obedience either to
Man by his Counsel is not an inevitable or forceable Act of his Will for Counsel and Force are much different as is aâ—… absolute Decree to Act himself alone and a Perswasion of the Creature to Act with him by the Power and Assistance that he gives it So the Perswasion on Men to Repentance Perseverance in Faith and Grace cannot be an irresistable Forcing them thereto for what Reward can Men expect of God for any thing they are unwillingly forced to as by some supposed whereas God works upon that Reason and Conscience which he hath placed in Man to perswade induce and move Men to forsake Sin from a real Sence of the Evil of it that they may leave Iniquity from a true Zeal and Hatred stirred up by the true Light against it I drew them with Cords of a Man with Bands of Love c. Hosea 11. 4. S. S. Arg. 2. God hath made Absolute Promises of the first Saving Grace Ezek. 26. 25 26. I will sprinkle clean Water upon you and you shall be clean a new Heart will I give you Chap. 11. 19 20. and he quotes Jeremy 31. 33. and Isai 54. 13. All thy Children shall be taught of the Lord. These Promises are but a Declaration of his Decree and they are not made concerning all but particular Persons whom God hath in his Eye to save This Argument is grounded upon his Mistake and is very dull and impertinent as not reaching his Principle he intends to vindicate by it For 1st It imports absolute Promises of the first Saving Grace to be but to particular Persons 2. That God had only a few particular Persons in his Eye that from Eternity in his Promise of the first saving Grace contrary to plain Scripture which sayes The Promise is to you and your Children and to all them that are afar off even to as many as God shall call and this Promise is Christ Jesus who is God's Everlasting Covenant and Light to which Men are called 3. This Man mistakes the first saving Grace confounding it with the Effects of it which it brings forth where it is received and obeyed As mens being made Clean having a new Heart c. Ezek. 36. 35. and Chap. 11. 19. which are Effects of the Grace these he puts for the first Saving Grace and Promise of it as also his blind Argument supposeth these Effectâ—… to be unavoidably or forceably brought forth in some particular Persons supposed to be designed for that End without respect to their accepting of and Concurrence with the Tenders and Appearance of saving Grace which in the Light of Christ is given them whereas it hath appeared unto all Men Tit. 2. 11. And the Promise of the Everlasting Covenant though freely and absolutely tendered to 〈◊〉 yet as it is made with any particular Men and confirmed â—…o them they are such as are serious and penitent returâ—…ing and obeying and hearkning to the Voice of God abiding in his Love and Grace c. upon which he enters into Covenant with them they with him both in the Agreement oâ—… Liâ—…e Hearken unto me and I will make with you an Everlastiâ—…g Covenant even the sure Mercies of David Isa. 55. 2 3. The Willing and Obedient shall eat the Good of the Land Cha. 1. 19. not the Unwilling and Disobedient And I wiâ—…l give them an Heart to know me that I am the Lord aâ—…d they shall be my People and I will be their God mark the Reason for they shall return unto me with their whole 〈◊〉 Jer. 24. 7. Note that this was foretold or prophesied â—…rding to the Fore-Sight that God had of the Willingness and Compliance of his People with his Grace and Spirit aâ—…er it was proffered and given to them to invite perswade and draw them as many other Prophecies are which â—…elate to his everlasting Covenant for its Establishment with the Creature on these and the like Conditions which is not a forcing Men to Conversion to have new Hearts to be clean c. For Grace from God is given and Love shewn Men to perswade and induce them to Love Good Will towards God he loves them first that they may love him he opens unto them a Fountain and pours clean Water upon them that they may wash in he works in them to WILL and to DO that they may obey him and by his Power and Aid work out their Salvation with Fear and Trembling Phil. 2. 12 13. He puts his Laws in their inward Parts that they may read and meditate Day and Night therein he teacheth his People that they may hear and learn of him and obey his Voice and the Ministers of the new Covenant that was promised preached Obedience and exhorted Persons to the Obedience of the Spirit and of the Son of God he being the Author of Eternal Salvation to as many as obey him Heb. 5. 9. not to them that presumptuously hazard their Salvation upon a lazy Expectation of being driven by some irresistible Impulse or forceable Motion of Power beyond what they are capable of Arg. 3. Persons by Name are particular Persons but Goâ—… hath sect 3 chosen Persons by Name Rev 13. 8. All that dwell on the Earth shall worship the Beast whose Names are not written in the slain Lamb's Book of Life from the Foundation of the World Answ. What great Ignorance wonderful Darkness doth his Man shew in this Argument both of the Book of Life and of those Names which are written in it which belongs to Men in the new-born State as related to the Seed of Election to every one that hath a new Name given him having overcome Sin and not the traditional Names given to Persons by natural Parents But this Argument makes no Difference between the Old Birth and the New nor between the old Name and the new nor between the old Nature with its Name and the new Nature its Name but saith Persons by Name are particular Persons but God hath chosen Persons by Name as if he should tell us That S. Scandret Nath. Barnard Hen. Coleman with the rest of â—…resbyterians are chosen Persons by these and such their Names from all Eternity and that these Names S. Scandret and Nath. Barnard c. are written in the Lamb's Book of Life but George Whitehead Ro. Ludgater Geo. Witherly with the rest of the Quakers are reprobated by Name from all Eternity But what then doth he imagine this Lamb's Book of Life is and what is it made up of Ah Lord free poor Souls from such Ignorance and deliver them from such blind Guides as this Man against whose dark Argument and partial Opinion let them read Jer. 17. 13. O Lord the Hope of Israel all that for sake thee shall be ashamed and they that depart from me shall be written in the Earth because they have forsaken the Lord the Fountain of living Waters So here being signified a Possibility to fall and many do forsake and depart from the
in them that did back-slide and rebel against the Spirit of God and became Persecutors of the holy Prophets and fell into gross Evils many to their Destruction which caused the Prophets often to complain against them and Severity from God to come upon them that fell On them that fell Severity but on thee Goodness if thou abide in his Goodness Rom. 11. And it is said The Lord was Wrath So a Fire was kindled against Jacob and Anger came up against Israel Psal. 78. 21. Who gave Jacob to the Spoil and Israel to the Robbers Did not the Lord against whom they had sinned For they would not walk in his Wayes neither were they Obedient unto his Law Isa. 42. 24. and Chap. 43. 22. But thou hast not called upon me O Jacob but thou hast been weary of me O Israel thou hast made me to serve with thy Sins thou hast wearied me with thine Iniquities ver 24. Thy first Father hath sinned and thy Teachers have transgressed against me ver 27. I have given Jacob to the Curse and Israel to Reproaches ver 28. Was Israel or Jacob's Seed then after the Flesh eternally Elected and Loved Was not his saying I have loved Jacob intended to reprove the Ingratitude and Unfaithfulness of those his Posterity Mal. 1. 2. I have loved you saith the Lord yet ye say wherein hast thou loved us c. ver 6. O Priests that despise my Name c. ver 7. Ye offer polluted Bread upon mine Altar c. Thus those of Jacob or Israel after the Flesh both Priests and People were reproved sor their Abuse of God's Love and Kindness and can any People now be said to be so absolutely chosen to Salvation meerly because God doth shew Love to them when now his Love in his Son is universally extended to the World God so loved the World c. Joh. 3. Did he theresore decree the whole World to be saved See the Narrowness of the said Opinion of a Personal Election and Reprobation from all Eternity and that impertinent Allegation of God's sree Choice of Jacob and his Seed as it is intended to sute that Proposition how false it is But further the Apostle explains who are truly in the Election of the Seed of Promise and who are the true aâ—…d spiritual Israel and so in the Election which obtains See Rom. 9. 6. They are not all Israel which are of Israel ver 7. neither because they are the Seed of Abraham are they all Chilâ—…ren but in Isaac shall thy Seed be called ver 8. That iâ—… They which are the Children of the Flesh these are not the 〈◊〉 of God but the Children of the Promise are counted â—…or the Seed see also Gal. 4. 28 29. For Illustration whereoâ—… the Apostle alludes to those Instances of Jacob and Esau Rom. 9. 10 11 12. who were instanced as Figures of the two opposite Seeds the two contrary Births two differing People and Nations as the Earthly and the Heavenly the Natural and the Spiritual Seed and Birth are contrary in the very Nature and Ground and so are the Generations of each as namely those in the first Adam and those in the second those after the Flesh and those after the Spirit And so the Righteous and the Wicked how contrary are they boâ—…h in Nature and Spirit yet not simply as Creatures or Persons but as influenced with contrary Priâ—…ciples Spirits Powers which bring forth their own coâ—…trary Seeds Bâ—…rths and Images in Men and Women Now whereas it is saâ—…d being noâ—… yâ—…t born neither having done Good or Evil. that the Purpose of God according to Election might stand not of Works but of him that calleth it was said unto Rebecca The Elder all serve the Younger or the Greater hall serve the Lesser Note that this cannot oe aâ—…y 〈◊〉 of any 〈◊〉 or eternal Election and Reprobation of Jâ—…cob aâ—…d Esau's Persons for what Service need Jacob in Heaven srom Esau in Hell or what Service could Esau in Hell do Jacob in Heaven Howbeit the Purpose of God according to Election stands sure originally in the Elâ—…ct Sâ—…ed and so not of Works Esau was a Worker and so the first Birth would of it self be a Willing Running and Working for Liâ—…e eternal which can be no Procurement of God's Purpose thereof But a Seed is freely given of God to Mankind and Power to bring forth Righteousness and the living Works as Effects of Grace and God freely calls Men thereto out of his free Grace and Love to all By grace are ye savâ—…d through Faith and that not of your selves it is the Gift of God not of Works lest any Man should boast for we are his Workmanship created in Christ Jesus unto good Works mark this which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them Ephes. 2. 8 9 10. And Note That this saving Grace hath appeared unto all Men Titus 2. 11. It is not limited or bound up to that Narrowness as the particular Electioners Opinion would bind it as only to a particular designed small Number of Persons from Eternity with an eternal Exclusion of all the World beside to everlasting Damnation without Remedy which is a most partial and cruel Doctrine ecclipsing the Glory and Soveraignity of God which is most manifest in shewing Mercy rather then meer partial Severity on his poor Creatures Whereas S. S. teacheth that the making this Vessel to Honour that to Dishonour is God's creating such a Person with a sect 6 Resolution to recover him out of his fallen State by Saving Grace such a Person with an Intention to leave and never recover him out of his fallen State by renewing Grace c. p. 112 113. Answ. The Man runs still upon his first Mistake placing such a partial Resolution and Intention upon God towards his Creatures or particular Persons in creating them as absolutely to recover one and leave the other in the Fall and why then doth this Man or his Brethren preach and tender Salvation upon Terms to all Sorts They cloak this partial Reserve with general Tenders of Good imagining God to be as partial in his Intentions and both as slighty and Contradictory in his Call and Proffers as themselves as if he should call all to Repentance and Life and yet to have created them with Intention to leave the Greater Part in the Fall for Eternal Death or rather to have from Eternity reprobated them or as his Masters of the Assembly say He hath before ordained them to everlasting Death the Contradiction of which Doctrines both to God's universal Love Grace and Call as also to themselves how manifest is it That he should from Eternity ordain them for Reprobation whom in due time he gives Light unto and calls to Repentance how plainly inconsistent are these and contradictory One while to say he hath reprobated them another while he passeth by them One while he hath before ordained them to everlasting Death another while he creates them
to turn from Sin to God in Christ and to seek after good Scripture Evidence of their Election p. 116. Answ. The Matter would have been more congruous thus for that no fallen Men nor Women are reprobated for Everlasting lasting Destruction until they have first slighted the Kindness of God abused his Grace rebelled against his blessed Light rejected his Knowledge as not liking to retain him in their Knowledge this importunately urgeth all in Compassion to their own Souls to turn from Sin to God in Christ while his Grace and Good Will extends to them and a time of Love is afforded them while he maketh his Sun to rise on the Evil and on the Good and sendeth Rain on the Just and on the Unjust Mat. 5. 45. Now this is Matter of Comfort that God doth shew Love and Kindness towards all and that he universally extends Light and offereth Salvation by his Son who indeed is his shining Sun to the Ends of the Earth and that he willeth not or desireth not the Death of any in their Sins but rather their Return and Repentance that they may live But alas What a maniâ—…est Contradiction is it for the Man one while to conclude that God hath from all Eternity reprobated the greatest Part or Number of â—…allen Men and Women or unchangeably designed their Eternal Damnation poor Encouragement another while to tell of importunately urging all in Compassion to their own immortal Souls to turn from Sin to God in Christ How should they have Compassion to their immortal Souls if God hath no Compassion nor Love towards them Or how should Reprobates turn from Sin if eternally reprobated This were but putting them upon an Impossibility and so a flattering and mocking them with a pretended Kindness never intended for them As the Opinion which I oppose vainly supposeth by such specious Pretences Presbyterian Priests c. have flattered many out of their Money which is like as if a Priest in his preaching to a People should bid them all have Compassion upon their Immortal Souls and turn from Sin and then tell them it is impossible they should ever turn from Sin or be saved God having unalterably designed the Destruction and Damnation of the greatest Part of them what Comfort would this Contradiction and cruel Partiality administer to them I pray you It would be but cold Comfort to tell a great Congregation That God had fore-designâ—…d them all except two or three of them to be damned eternally This is not the Word of Faith nor any preaching in the Faith this is not Yea Amen but a saying and unsaying a pretending to comfort and encourage them all and to discourage and lead mâ—…ny into Despair And how then should they seek Evidence in Scripture for their Election or Salvation The Scriptures of themselves do not evidence to particular Persoâ—…s their Election from Eternity the Seriptures do not tell S. Scandrâ—…t Nat. Barnard c. that they are Elect Persons Bâ—…t to them that believe in Christ and in him have obtained Power over their Corruptions and whose Hearts are truly and spiritually tender towards God his Spirit beareth Witneâ—…s wâ—…th their Spirits and evidenceth to them according to Scripture that they are the Sons of God chosen in Christ Jesus through Sanctification of the Spi it and Belief of the Truth and so are adopted through the Spirit of Adoption to be the Children of God and Coheirs with Christ of Eternal Life and Peace S. S. Is the Judge cruel that hangs up a Murtherer sect 15 Answ. No but neither the Judge nor yet the Law doth ordain or prescribe that this or that Person shall be a Murtherer for the Fact is forbidden and the Punishment is prescribed as is the judgment and Punishment of ungodly Men in general S. S. God doth actually damn none but the finally Impenitent Answ. Then their Impenitency is the Effect of their own Disobedience and Rebellion not of God's Decree and this sufficiently conâ—…utes their accusing God with fore-designing or ordaining the Sin or wicked Actions of Men or particular Persons â—…or such and such Wayes and Ends Act. 2. 23. Christ being delivered by the determinate Câ—…unsel and fore-Knowledge of God after you had taken with wicked Hands you havâ—… crucified and slain p. 116. There was a Necessity of his being delivered to suffer as God fore-knew because of the Sins of the World Christ was given up in the Counsel of God on his Part to suffer but their wicked Hands that God permitted to take and murther him were against God and Christ not subject to his Counsel of Love and Mercy but to the Devil and their own wicked Hearts malicious murtherous Spirits and therefore they were by God's Counfel call'd to repent to be converted to turn from their Iniquities Acts 3. 14 15 19 26. But surely God did not call them to reâ—…ent of obeying his holy and just Counsel but of their Iniquities having murthered the Just one Acts 4. 27 28. Against thy â—…oly Child Jesus Herod Pontius Pilate with the Gentiles and the People of Israel gathered themselves together to do whatsoever thine Hand and thy Counsel had determin'd before to be done But see ver 25 26. concerning the Gentilâ—…s Rage and the Kings of the Earth and the Rulers standing up and gathering together against the Lord and against his Christ the Rage and wicked Consultations of whom God was not the Author of for when God by the Mouth of his Servant David asked Why did the Heathen rage ver 25. Would it have been a good Answer for any to have said Lord why dost thou ask Hast not thou â—…ore ordained them to rage imagine vain things Surely no sor thâ—…n he would not ask why but when thereby they had provoked him having rejected his Counsel and Good Will they were given up to work Wickedness and Injustice and so their own Ruin like those who brought Wo upon their Souls for they had rewarded Evil to themselves As God's Counsel fore-saw and perceived as the Jews or People of Israel rejected Christ and would not be gathered by him he said O Jerusalem Jerusalem how oft would I have gathered thy Children even as the Hen gathereth her Chickens under her Wings and you would not he therefore said Ye are the Children of them that murthered the Prophets fill ye up the Measure of your Fathers c. Serpents c. Mat. 23. 31. to the End This was not from an Eternal Decree irrespectively against their Persons but in Judgment and Wrath against them because of their Ungratefulness Envy and Wickedness and so likewise all who receive not the Love of the Truth whereby they might be saved but have Pleasure in their Unrighteousness God gives them up both to strong Delusions and Hardness of Heart for their Iniquity 2 Thes. 2. 10 11. S. S. Is Cod the Author of Sin in determining or fore-ordaining the wicked Actions of these Men It is one thing to decree