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A90720 Sectaries vnmasked and confuted. By the treating upon divers points of doctrine in debate betwixt the Presbyterialists and sectarists, Anabaptists, Independents, and Papists. / By George Palmer wel-wisher to a warrantable uniformity in godly religious exercises. Palmer, George, b. 1596 or 7. 1647 (1647) Wing P229; Thomason E396_27; ESTC R201662 58,190 61

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subjects of Ahab were accessory to Ahabs sparing of Benhad●d and see what they were to receive of God for that sin as in 1 King 20. 42. they must die for it Here followeth certain Scriptures shewing what was to be done to the places where the Idolaters worshipped their false Gods viz. the places that were built for that purpose and so used publickly and the reason rendred by God himself viz. to take away or destroy the name of Idolatry and Idolaters out of that place c. Neverthelesse their Cities Vineyards and dwelling Houses were to stand still for their habitations except those places where they publickly or usually wove hangings for their Groves c. 2 Kin. 23. 7. as you may see in Deut. 6. 10. and Chap. 19. 1. Idolatry it seemes is too easily entertained into the hearts of men by small occasions and we have had wofull experience of it with us in not watching to prevent it before it was entertained into many hearts so prevalent is this sin with the sons of men How soon were the Asian Churches be-pestered with corruption in this sin as others also but that God out of his infinite mercy forewarned them before they were utterly faln away and so have we now been warned from God by many instruments which hee hath stirred up in his Cause to set us in a right way again contrary to the expectation of the Roman frogs which have troubled us with Baalzebubs sulphur When some did wink and closely think To leave us in their lurches God did provide with Pen and Ink His Johns to save his Churches FINIS THE VOICE of INFANTS BY INFANTS DEFENDER LUKE 9. 50. Forbid him not for he that is not against us is for us Is there not a cause 1 Sam. 17. 29. Behold the Babe wept Exod. 2. 6. And I Brethren when I came to you came not with excellency of speech or of wisdome declaring to you the testimony of God 1 Cor. 2. 1. But truly I am full of power by the Spirit of the Lord and of judgement and of might to declare unto Jacob his transgressions and to Israel his sins Micah 3. 8. I thank thee O Father Lord of heaven and earth because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent and hast revealed them to Babes even so Father for so it seemed good in thy sight Matth. 11. 25. Now I beseech you Brethren mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which yee have learned and avoid them for they that are such serve not the Lord Jesus Christ but their own belly and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple Rom. 16. 17 18. London Printed by R. Cotes 1647. An Advertisement to the Reader for the better understanding of the Subject in the ensuing Discourse as a preparative 1. I Pray you note the occasion of this Discourse it was upon a challenge to dispute the case of Baptisme at which time I found the party so weak that I was both ashamed to observe his imbecillity and grieved to observe people so misled therefore out of pity I have thought good to shew the chief heads of the discourse though it bee not so exquisite as perhaps you all could wish it but I did not intend any more should see it then himself and some few of his followers but perceiving the importunity of some of my acquaintance I supposed they would cause it to bee somewhat more publike But had my thoughts stretched so farre at first I would have inlarged the matter and drawn the Discourse into more particulars and more orderly whereas now you have but the substantialls summarily and somewhat confusedly 2. Observe I have shewed the institution of Circumcision and that it was an outward sign or token of inward Circumcision in the party to whom it was first given he being a man namely Abraham 3. That his seed were to receive the same signe in their Infancy whether they had inherent holinesse yea or nay as having a right to the ordinance they being children of the faithfull or at least children of the Professors of the faith of Abraham 4. That this sign of Circumcision was belonging to those that were not of Abrahams naturall seed also if they would joyn to Abraham and his seed in the profession of the same faith and that then the children of those strangers were to receive the same signe of Circumcision also and to the same end that Abraham and his seed were untill the comming of Christ at which time the sign of faith was changed from Circumcision to Baptism to the beleeving Jewes or those of Abrahams naturall seed as well as to the Gentiles which then did beleeve 5. That the signe being changed from Circumcision to Baptisme them for with their mouth they shew much love but their heart goeth after their covetousnesse And loe thou art unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voyce c. Ezek. 33. 31 32. And ●ee that departeth from evill maketh himselfe a pray and the Lord saw it and it displeased him c. Esay 57. 16. I will make thy tongue cleave to the roofe of thy mouth that thou shalt be dumb and shalt not bee to them a reprover for they are a rebellious house Ezek. 3. 26. By men of other tongues and stammering lips will I speake to this people c. Isay 28. 11. If a man walking in the spirit of falsehood doe lie saying I will prophesie of wine and strong drinke even hee shall bee the prophet of this people Micah 2. 11. Oh Ephraim what shall I doe unto thee Oh Judah what shall I doe unto thee for your goodnesse is as a morning cloude and as the early dew it goeth away Hosea 6. 4. Repent and turne your selves from all your transgressions so iniquitie shall not bee your ruine Ezek. 18. 30. Come and let us returne unto the Lord for hee hath torne and hee will heale us hee hath smitten and hee will bind us up Hosea 6. 1. Turne yee Oh turne yee for why will yee die O yee people of England Ezek. 33. 11. Let us search and try our wayes and turne againe to the Lord let us lift up our hearts with our hands unto God in the heavens Lam. 3. 40 41. To the Law and to the testimony if they speake not according to this rule it is because there is no light in them Esay 8. 20. If any man will doe his will hee shall know the doctrine whether it bee of God or whether I speake of my selfe John 7. 17. When the heart shall bee turned to the Lord the vaile shall bee taken away 2 Cor. 3. 16. To him that ordereth his conversation aright will I shew the salvation of God Psal. 50 2● If yee bee willing and obedient yee shall ●ate the good of the land but if yee bee wicked and rebell yee shall bee consumed with the sword c. Esay 1. 19
in divine things and heavenly ordinances Now I come to the chiefe Master-piece or Goliah with his armour-bearer And that is Whether wee in these our times may not attaine to this uniformity in a warrantable way without much offending any good conscience though weake that so we may attaine to this unity of affection in godlinesse and thereby attaine to the happinesse I spake of both in this life and the world to come sempiternally And I will name some points of Doctrine which those that stand for the Presbyteriall government or nearest it doe hold and maintaine the which those that doe dissent from us doe oppose some of them in one point and some of them in another point c. the which points are not amongst most of us held to bee fundamentalls of our Religion as in truth they are not that is to say both parties if honest and true hearted in the fundamentalls may bee saved without them if they could hold and continue so to the end of their dayes and their seed also successively But those things we differ in are such as are to maintain and preserve us in those fundamentalls chiefly and without which we cannot long stand upon them but shall fall off And these points doe chiefly concern the government of the Church and divers particulars in the demeanors or manners in the same as also who ought to bee accounted worthy to bee esteemed a member of the Church and accordingly received to be of the company and partakers of the ordinances belonging to the Church Therefore I will name so many points as I have heard differenced between those that are for the Presbyteriall government or nearest it and their opposites and perhaps I will insert a few more points too and produce what Scriptures I can remember to cleare the truth of the points and bring divers Reasons for some points too by which meanes many may not pretend liberty of conscience without just cause and bring ruine to the whole body spirituall To name these points in order strictly I will not promise content to every one And first for the Church viz. Who are it To this I answer in strict knowledge of it none but God can tell but so farre as the Scriptures give us light to see so farre we are to conclude in a charitable esteem and that is thus Those that professe to be saved by faith in Christ Jesus according to the fundamentalls contained in the Word of God and are partakers of his ordinances and frame their lives according to his commandements Now herein we differ much about this latter part the Independents and we Presbyterialls The Presbyterialls say that there be divers degrees of sanctification which in some is more and in some is lesse yea so little in some as that they doe but eschew the habituall acting of capitall sins in their outward demeanors to mans view so to speak comparing one sin to another as those the Apostle hath laid down as a rule for us to be guided by in this particular point now in hand viz. to judge and account of a fit member in some degree of a Church as we may see in Ephes. 5. 5. No whoremonger nor unclean person nor covetous man which is an idolater hath any inheritance in the kingdome of Christ and of God 1 Cor. 6. 9 10. Neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers nor effeminate nor abusers of themselves with mankinde nor theeves nor covetous nor drunkards nor revilers nor extortioners nor such like shall inherit the kingdome of God But the Independents or as they will rather be called the Congregationall party they hold that except there be a more greater and more larger or stricter walking in the wayes of God there can be no conclusion made that those persons have any saving grace in them at that time and therefore not to bee received as members of a Church but that if they will be esteemed members of the true Church they must have such godly exercises in their families in a more demonstrative degree and manner then doe appeare to bee in them that are for the Presbyteriall government for the more part and more zealous and frequent in the exercises of divine ordinances or else they are not to be received as members of Christs mysticall body Now to decide this question I will bring divers Scriptures to prove that there were divers sins and divers sorts of sins both of omission and commission amongst the true beleevers not onely in the time of the old Testament as the sins of David a man after Gods own heart as the Scripture termeth him and divers others also of good report but in the Primitive Churches in the Apostles time And first I will begin in 1 Cor. 3. 1. to 5. these are said to be carnall and addicted to strifes c. and yet they are called babes in Christ Heb. 5. 12 13. these are such as are said to have need to be taught again the first principles of the oracles of God c. they were not capable of strong meat but had still need of milk viz. babes diet for they were still babes these were relapsed in part yet Christian babes Col. 3. the former verses These had their affections too much set upon the things of this life 2 Pet. 1. 5 6. these must then adde to their faith vertue and to vertue knowledge c. 1 Thess. 4. 1. to the end of ver. 6. and also ver. 10 11. these are wanting in knowledge and holinesse and were addicted to carnall lusts to uncleannesse and to fraud and deceit as too many professors are now adayes 2 Cor. 7. 1. these were exhorted to cleanse themselves both of flesh and spirit too 1 Thes. 3. 12 13. these were to increase in love one toward another and toward all men that God might establish their hearts unblamable in holinesse Chap. 5. 23. here the Apostle prayeth for these that God would sanctifie them wholly c. Heb. 13. 5. these were dehorted from covetousnesse Col. 1. 9. the Apostle prayeth for these that they might bee filled with the knowledge of Gods will in all wisdome and spirituall understanding and that they might be fruitfull in every good worke Joh. 17. 17. in this place Christ prayed for his Apostles that they might be yet more sanctified And the Corinthians were too much hankerers after fornication and adultery as you may see in 1 Cor. 6. 23. to the end of the Chapter and some of the former verses also and in the eight first verses you may see a great fault in them reproved by the Apostle viz. so great a defect of love and good will each to other that they went to law one against another and that before the unjust unbeleevers yea they themselves did use fraud to each other as in v. 8. appeareth and yet these to whom this reproof was given were beleevers as you may see in ver. 6. By all these Scriptures it doth
will revealed in his Word is also as true for in a certaine place God promised to send them Pastors that should teach them with knowledge and understanding And when the people under King Sauls government were well humbled and brought down by his oppressing them then God heard their cry and pityed them in their misery and provided them a blessed guide and feeder of them with knowledge and understanding viz. the kingly Prophet David thus you may see that it is the love of God to us in giving us able Teachers the which wee shall have when wee live obediently to him with all our hearts according to his will revealed in his Word and thus much shall serve for this Point viz. Who ought to bee the publick Teachers and also some Objections answered And I have concluded that those that are best able ought to bee the publick Preachers of the Word of God to the people But now followeth in good order another Point and this is a speciall one too and this point the Independent party for some Congregations at least and almost all Sectaries are against me in onely the Presbyterialls are on my side and this Point is concerning the proving allowing and ordaining these Preachers for the work of this great Ministration I shall for this pitch upon Scriptures in the first place and after that confirm the Point by Reasons and my Reasons will be strong I am sure this question is Who ought to ordain the Preachers of the Gospel I answer that chiefly and ordinarily at the least the Preachers of the Word of God ought to doe it and the first Scripture is Act. 14. 23. And when they had ordained them Elders in every Church and prayed with fasting they commended them to the Lord on whom they beleeved for the places where they did ordaine them you may see in the end of ver. 21. If you doubt whether these were preaching Elders that the Apostles did there ordain I must say that it is very likely they were but if not yet it makes for my point in hand for if it belonged unto the Apostles to ordain inferiour Elders then I am sure you will grant me the other viz. that they did ordain the preaching Elders I can prove it out of other Scriptures plainly but I know you will not oppose me in this But here is another objection and that is this although the Apostles did it yet we are not to follow that Rule still unlesse we had a command left unto us so to doe for evermore successively To this I answer that what the Apostles did then was for our imitation in that particular for they did not give or leave any other order or rule to us in the Word of God and therefore wee must say as Paul said Whatseever was written was written for our instruction But I will proceed to other texts Titus 1. 5. to the end of ver. 9. these are the words For this cause left I thee in Cre●e that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting and ordain Elders in every City as I have appointed thee That these were preaching Elders which Titus was to ordain or at least some of them is apparent in vers 7. for those that in ver. 5. Paul had called Elders he in this verse called Bishops now in that Titus was left to ordain those Bishops you may see a succession of the ordination of Preachers of the Word of God by the Preachers of the Word of God and 2 Tim. 2. 2. you may see what Paul commanded Timothy these are the words The things that thou hast heard of mee among many witnesses the same commit thou to faithfull men who shall be able to teach others also 1 Tim. 5. 22. Lay hands suddenly on no man neither be partaker of other mens sins keep thy self pure here you may see a second succession of the ordination of the Ministers of the Word of God by the Ministers of the Word of God for now Timothy must commit the doctrine or the word of God to others that he could find able and fit to teach others also the word commit carries weight with it and signifieth the leaving in trust as it were the Word of God to their dispensation to whom it was to be so committed here you may see that the common hearers were not to ordain the Preachers of the Word of God and the true reason thereof is rendred in 2 Tim. 3. 10. in these words Thou hast fully known my Doctrine c. it seemeth Paul knew well that those that were best able in knowledge were the fittest to ordain the Preachers and they were most knowing men that were then the Preachers of the Word of God and farther Paul gave him a Rule whereby hee might know who were those fit men to bee the Preachers of the Word of God as you may see in 1 Tim. 3. to the end of ver. 13. whom in ver. 1. he called Bishops yea he had characters given him whereby he might know how to choose fit and able Deacons also as in ver. 8 9 10. are to be seen and they did use to lay hands on them that they ordained for the Ministery of the Word of God at that time as in 1 Tim. 4. 14. in Chap. 5. 22. 2 Tim. 1. 6. at which time Timothy had a speciall gift given him when Paul or others with Paul did ordain him to be a Preacher of the gospel and also in Heb. 6. 2. Alas if every one may be permitted to preach that would doe it we ●hen must needs have a Babel therefore they ought to be proved by the Preachers of the gospel before they do preach And now I demand of those that would have every Congregation ordaine their own Pastor or Preacher why those that are in the Synod or Ministers like them should not be the ordainers of men for to bee the Preachers of the Word of God rather then those that are more ignorant by thousands of particulars in the Word of God and so many honest men there too What are they not so I say they are and ablest and honest too but put case some should be thought otherwise you know that no company of any sort is usually so intirely good but that some may be defective what think you of your selves may there not bee some worse then others Nay may there not be hypocrites and varlets too if so then you every way are worse then the learned and therefore every way more unfit for to ordain men to be Preachers of the Word of God Now a touch of one thing more and then I will passe to another point and this is somewhat differing from the former but I will joyn them together and that is this The Preachers of the word of God were superintendents of other Preachers in the Apostles time and this I prove as followeth 1 Tim. 1. 3 4. where you may see that Timothy