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A04901 A confutation of monstrous and horrible heresies, taught by H.N. and embraced of a number, who call themselues the Familie of Loue by I. Knewstub. Seene and allowed, according to the Queenes Maiesties iniunctions. Knewstubs, John, 1544-1624. 1579 (1579) STC 15040; ESTC S108097 192,800 286

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as one ouercome by reason of so long lack of comforte might say at the hearing of this ioyfull message of H.N. as the wife of Phinehes did when it was tolde for her consolation that shee had borne a sonne The glorie saith she is allredy gone from Israel and therfore let the childe haue his name accordingly and be called Ichauod Now if this were the true worde of GOD and Gospell of Iesus Christ which neuer had seene the light before but by H.N. had beene the firste digged out of darkenesse what ignoraunce is it to confounde the Gospell with the holie Ghoste as if the holie Ghost were no other thinge then the doctrine it self For that place is plainely and expresly mente of the spirite of God and not of any doctrine that he should haue in purpose to send them from Heauen That which hee speaketh further of his office that it is to expresse How that Christ is come againe according to his promise to beget vs anew to iudge vs with his righteousnesse That we might presently enter into the true rest which God hath prepared from the beginning and inherite the euetlasting life is nothing else but a very sinke of absurde doctrine For first howe absurde is this to say That Christ his comming againe shall be to beget vs a new out of the doctrine of his seruice when as the Apostle playnely saith His comming shall bee to render vengeaunce vnto all them tha● are no at that time already borne anewe by obedience vnto the Gospell It is a righteous thing with God to recompenc tribulation vnto them that trouble you to you which are troubled rest when the Lord Iesus shal shew him selfe from Heauen with his mightie Angels in flaming fire rendering vengeance vnto them that doe not knowe GOD and obey not vnto the Gospel of our Lord Iesus Christ It will then be to late to learne when the bridegrome is once come It wil be to late then to seek Oyle for their Lampes Their Lampes shall then be burning that shall bee admitted to enter in with the Bridegrome And therefore he commeth not againe now to beget vs a new but to render vengeance vnto so many as shal not be founde at his comming borne againe and already begotten a newe Besides what a match is that to haue the first cōming of Christ to ioyne in time with the second for that out of the Prophet Esaie is plainely spoken of his first comming in the flesh which notwithstanding is heere ioined with the comming of the Lord vnto iudgement and bringing of the elect into that rest which hath beene prepared from the beginning euen the inheritaunce of euerlasting life Nowe H.N. saith that they bothe take effect at the publishing of this his doctrin Moreouer of this doctrine it doth followe that regeneration is the ioyes of heauen and that when a man doth reforme his life by the word he is presentlie entred into those ioyes which haue beene prepared from the beginning for the elect It doth plainely make the comforts of euerlasting life to be no other then those that are felte of the godlie in this life It bindeth also those ioyes of heauen and euerlasting life vnto this life and vnto the imbracing of H.N. his doctrine that in the receiuing thereof a man should enter the possession of the ioyes of heauen For the place of Matthew is so plaine for the day of Iudgement and for the possessing of such euerlasting ioyes as in this worlde are not enioyed as no thing can be more These be the wordes Then shall the king say vnto them on his right hand Come yee blessed of my father inherite the kingdome prepared for you from the foundations of the world For I was an hungred and ye gaue me meate I thirsted and you gaue me drinke c these were men regenerate and borne againe for he reciteth their fruites of newe life and the workes of regeneration which they had done and these men which had shewed foorth these fruites he then putteth in possession of the kingdom prepared for them from the beginning of the world saying Come ye blessed of my father inherite the kingdome prepared for you If they be then called out to inherite a kingdome which haue practised the fruites of Christianitie before then is there an other kingdome abyding for the Children of God beside that which they are possessed of presently vpon the newnesse and reformatiō of their life For mē are not wont to be called out to take the possession of that which they are alredy entred vpon And how could they haue brought foorth such fruites as the Lord doth crowne vnlesse there had beene newnesse of life before The Apostle Paule affirmeth our estate which trust in Christ to be the moste miserable of all other if so be that we haue no other hope but in this life only For heere the estate of the godly is subiect to so great affliction and persecution that sometimes men that feared God haue beene greatly tempted to followe the wayes of the wicked while they did see them to flourish in all worldly prosperitie inioying as it were a heauen heere vppon Earth and the seruants of GOD almoste continually liuing such a life as that death it selfe might seeme iustly to bee wished before it Dauid professeth that him selfe fretted at the wicked when he did se the prosperitie of them and that his steppes had wel neere s●pt and his feet were almost gone For they are not in trouble saith he like the other sort and therefore pride is as a chaine vnto them The grace of God saith the Apostle which bringeth saluation hath appeared and teacheth vs to deny vngodlinesse and worldlie lustes and to liue temperatlie iustly and godly in this present worlde wayting for that blessed hope and appearing of the glorie of the mightie God and of our Sauiour Iesus Christe If in a sober iust and godly course of life we haue to waite for that blessed hope and glorie which shal appeare with the comming of Iesus Christe then is not that sober iust and godly course of life the blessed hope and glory it selfe For men doe not waite for that which they doe enioy already Wee giue thanks saith the Apostle vnto God since we heare of your faith in Christ of your loue towards all Saints for the hopes sake which is layd vp for you in Heauen If they did abounde in faith towardes Christ and in loue towards the Saincts for the hopes sake which was laide vp for them in heauen Then was not their Heauen hope contained within the limites of this life and much lesse was that fruite of faith loue the hope and heauen it self And lest any man might imagine that I haue taken the aduantage of this one place vnaduisedly penned by the Author let him reade his Bookes and he shall finde it to bee a doctrine often and with great deliberation set downe and
same For when he cannot abide that they should anie longer enioy so much credite by his word as the shew bare professiō would yeeld vnto them which is al that they would require ▪ but that he wil haue thē turned out of their clouts and laid naked in their shame doth he not from heauē by such iudgements preach declare the maiestie and might of his word Is not that the great seale sent from heauen into the earth to be set vnto the worde for the authorizing thereof For seeing they would not reuerence it brought vnto thē vnder the Lords owne hand and seale of signes miracles they haue forced him by bringing these heauie iudgements vppon them for the further confirming of it to set his seale the second time vnto it Should not all men nowe feare to prophane it when there is here among vs a mark of such maiestie set vpon it Should not euerie man now examine what rereuerence he doth beare vnto it when he seeth for the freeing of it from contempt so great plaine a print of authoritie to be ioyned vnto it Let people now take heed how they cherish that humor within themselues which cannot beare any other teaching of the woord then that which is so interteyned of the eare that it can not bee hired so much as once to vewe and visite the heart Let those feare who cannot digest the word vnlesse with eloquence and wit curious questions prophane hystories and fables the power and strenght of it bee so allayed as nowe there is no more any maiestie in it And seeing we haue such sensible iudgement among vs against them who like not the simplicitie of the worde but will feed of speculations and mysticall matters let them who minister the worde take heede they feede not that affection in them by laying on such painting and colours as may rather make them wonder at the workemanship then take any profite by the worke Let them teach and exhort with wholsome doctrine not onely planting knowledge in them but earnestly calling vpon them to keepe their knowledge in a good conscience and so much the rather because wee see before our eyes what a daungerous shipwracke they haue made euen of knowledge who haue gone vnto the sea with it in the riuen vessell of a corrupt conscience Let them styrre them vppe to haue their reckoning in a readinesse seeing the Lorde hath alreadie begonne to visite the contempt of his woorde Let them vrge them likewise to seeke for iudgement in the word whereby to discerne spirites that seeing nowe we bee sought and sifted that way by Sathan we may be found sufficiently armed likewise on that side against him lest wilful ignorance should bee punished in vs with obstinate errour Let vs prouide that those may be ioyned togither which the Lord cannot abide to put a sunder that zeale for lacke of knowledge doe not degenerate either into some daungerous schisme or superstition neither yet knowledge for want of zeale affection either into vnprofitable curiosity or els into some horrible heresie Touching those who be of opiniō that these heresies will vanish away of thēselues because the matter is so grosse the men be so vtterly vnlearned and therfore would neither haue sword nor pen pulled out against them They are to be required that they woulde vouchsafe to haue their iudgemēt waied by the word so should they find it lighter then the wind For doth not the Apostle tell vs that want of affection and loue towards the truth pulleth the eyes of our knowledge out of our heads procureth belief credit vnto manifest lies vntruthes insomuch that where this iudgmēt of god entreth the greatest vntruthes shal not be receiued waueringly in opinion but cōstantly in beliefe strong perswasiō now with what affection the gospel is receiued of many among vs whether with so good an affection as will warrant vs that way I think in this behalfe a good confession is much better then an euill defence And touching the want of learning in the patrons of these heresies who knoweth not that Alexander the Copper-smith wrought more woe vnto the Apostle S. Paule by hindering the course of the gospel then any either eloquent Orator or subtile Philosopher For when simple men such as be artificers thrust forth themselues with as much boldnes as blindnesse to be guides for others vnto God forthwith that is fathered by the multitude vpon the miraculous extraordinarie worke of God and therefore they will haue all of them who haue atteined vnto knowledge by ordinarie meanes of necessitie yeelde and giue place to their better superiour My purpose was at the beginning to haue dealt onely with his booke intituled Euangelium Regni but finding it stand often vpon one thing as what order can confusion affoord vnto vs I thought I should better prouide for the Reader if I should examine his iudgement vpon euerie seueral article of our beliefe which he hath set downe in his first exhortation and withall for the better vnderstanding thereof should cite these places out of his Euangelie where hee handleth the same matter and that so largely as it may easily appeare vnto all men that neither I haue missed of his meaning nor yet dealt vnfaythfully by suppressing any trueth in my allegations Where he doth vsually pester his margent with plenty of authorities as if nothing but scripture might at any time be heard out of his mouth It is a bayte layde for the simple who either cannot or will not examen the matter For falshoode wil as wel guard the trueth as those authorities defend the cause he hath in hande I haue perused them one by one which are alleaged to warrant his calling where I am sure hee bringeth foorth the best euidences that hee hath because it toucheth his freehold let them be viewed that is the treatise which I first deal withal and as they deserue so let the rest be beleued Wherin vnlesse I should ouermuch abase H.N. I can no better match him then with S. George as the papistes doe describe him For as S. George loueth to bee alwayes on horsbacke albeit he neuer ride So H.N. hath great liking to be moūting in the margent vpon the autorities of the sacred worde albeit they neuer step forth with him to speake so much as one woorde for him I haue added next vnto that before I enter to examine the articles of the beliefe his iudgement of originall sinne taken out of the 5. Chapter of his Euangelie because those only were the matters which that booke had more and besides that doctrine which is handled in his exposition vpon the Creede His words be wrapped in such darknesse and obscuritie as doe geue euident testimony of his minde that he meaneth to deceiue As for the parts of his arguments they be at such variance with in thē selues that the cōsequens can by no right be denied the good abearing against his antecedent
For mark their meating you shal perceiue that alwaies the one draweth vpō the other wil neuer leaue him before he haue either a leg or an arme of him And in asmuch as partly by his dark speaking partly by his allegorical expositiō he hath hatched a mōster of perfectiō which he calleth Christ I haue added to the end of this booke 3. seuerall short treatises of those 3. special matters concluding the booke with a Sermō which I made heretofore moued therunto by the iudgemēt of some not only for that the present occasiō did then force me to stād vpō that historie of Christ his death which H.N. would wholy and altogither transforme into an allegorie but also for that in so large a matter of doctrine to reforme our iudgemēt I wished there might be somwhat ioined to further our cōuersation I haue likewise set down the iudgemēt of some godly learned as wel of the Dutch church as of our owne touching these heresies of H.N. that thēselues may see I am not alone neither in my opiniō of thē neither in this necessarie cōtention by writing with thē These fruits of my labours my very good Lord I present vnto your honour as a publike testimonie of my humble duetie good will vnto your L. not only in respect of my selfe for your L. great good deseruings towarde me but also in regarde of many others who find a safe harborow vnder your honourable protection and haue such an easie accesse entrance vnto your honour in all their good occasions and lawfull requests as bindeth vs vnto all duetie and thankfulnesse vnto his maiestie and your honor as his instrument for the same Which hath made me bold at this time to cōmend vnto your honourable care the redresse of a dangerous enormity which of late hath broken out in this land I meane this Athisme brought in by H.N. that his household who will bee called the Familie of loue The seruice your honour may doe vnto God in it is great the hope to preuaile against them in like maner is good for as true Religion spreadeth and increaseth vnder the crosse so punishment and affliction is the bane of heresie and false religion With what care and conscience such matters are to bee dealt withall that which is read in Deut. 14. may sufficiently direct your honour Where it is plainly declared that if anie shall secretly intice vnto a strange religion either friend husband or brother the nearest bondes that nature or friendship hath they stand charged not only to reueale it but also that their handes shall be first vpon them to put them to death To bewray the secretes of a deare friend who is to a man as his owne soule seemeth to flesh and blood an heynous matter to deale so with a mans brother the sonne of his mother or with his daughter the bowels of his owne bodie the law of nature doeth crie out of it and yet for the glorie of our God we are not onely in such a case to reueale this against them but our selues to be the chiefe doers in the death execution of thē which telleth vs that with the true worship of God and religion neither friendship nor nature may enter anie comparison nay it telleth vs that at the bringing in of Idolatry a strange religion how secretly soeuer the seedes therof shal be sowen rather thē by the impunitie therof Gods glorie should be defaced and the daunger that is due for the neglect thereof should be susteined we are not onely to lay aside naturall affection but euē to breake into our owne bowels to bathe our selues in our owne blood The case so nearly touching the glorie of our God I am in good hope that this which hath bene said shall sufficiently perswade your honour to enter into some speedie care consideration how to suppresse so great grieuous a danger Your L. labour in this cause so directly and so daungerously dealing against the highest hee can neuer forget to recompence who hath promised to reward euē to a cup of cold water bestowed vpō the least of those little ones who doe beleeue in his name The God of all glorie make you partaker of that honour which is assured vnto all them who by these such like fruites of faith shall trauaile the ratifying of their owne election and the remouing of all such enormities or blemishes which either hurt the health or hinder the beautie of the Church Your Lordships most bounden to serue in the Lorde Iohn Knewstub To the Reader grace and peace THe holie Apostle speaking of the comming of the Romishe Antichrist sheweth that the Lorde woulde set vp that rennagate seat as it were an executioner or sergeant of his wrathfull iudgement against those which should not haue the loue of the trueth that they which would not effectually beleeue it receiuing sentence of the Lord himself to beleeue lies effectually shoulde be put to the execution thereof by the ministerie of that seat The truth wherof as in other places of Europe so in this our Countrey especially is euidently seene where the Lord sitting in his Assise not twise a yeare but all the whole yeare long reuengeth the shameful contempt and neglect of his truth by sending numbers to their stie or walter againe which beeing drawne into the fouldes of Christ by the preaching of the Gospell behaued themselues coldly and carelesly therein And albeit in long processe of time this only cāker of Poperie be able to eat vp the whole church yet the sinnes of our Countrey crie so loude that is to say are done so openly and so vncōtrolledly in the sight of the Lord that as if he woulde make a short hande of all he setteth vpon vs with diuerse engines at once to pull downe that which he hath so graciously builded and with diuerse axes layde euen to the roote vtterly to cutte vp that which his owne hand hath planted And to follow the former comparison as where there are great store of fellons the Iustices of Assise are faine to seuer and single themselues to make the speedier hande of them euen so through heapes of those which haue no loue of the truth in them the lord is as it were faine to erect vp other iudgement seates by the which hee may ease himselfe of them and to appoint other hangmen for their quicker dispatch to the place wherevnto they are adiudged And therefore contenteth not himself now with the heresie of the Papistes which haue beene a long time the principall sincke to receiue the outcastes of the Church nor with the heresie of the Arians and Anabaptists as it were other houses of office whereunto some of the filth of the Church hath beene discharged but stirreth vp other brandes of hell to set fire as it were in euerie corner of the Church Of this sort are the vnlouely companie of them that call themselues the Familie of loue Wherevpon it may
as a matter out of doubt and yet might it well bee that the woorde whereof hee is a Minister were a gracious woorde as hee calleth it and for all that his election therevnto neither good nor gracious But woulde you heare what this gracious woorde is according as the Prophet testifieth of it Surely it is no other thing then euen now to bring vs the first newes of a matter done and past manie hundreth yeares agoe to witte that Iuda and Ierusalem shoulde bee inhabited againe by the Iewes after the captiuitie of Babilon In the place which he alledgeth out of the Prophete it is written thus Thus saith the Lord againe there shall be heard in this place which ye say shal be desolate without mā without beast euē in the cities of Iuda and the streetes of Ierusalem the voice of ioy and the voice of gladnesse the voice of the bridegrome the voice of the bride For I will cause to returne the captiuitie of the land as at the first The Iewes are cōforted by the prophet with this promise frō the Lord that they shal returne frō their captiuity and inhabite Iuda and Ierusalem with comfort and ioy of heart For saith he there shall be heard in your streetes the voice of ioy gladnes the voice of the bridegrome and the voice of the bride H.N. might well haue stayed among the dead neuer haue striuen so much about his resurrection from among them if he haue no other message then this for they are dead many hundreth yeares agoe to whom this matter did apperteine It is plaine therefore by his own testimonie that he hath no authority to deale with vs but with Iuda Ierusalem nor to bring anie doctrine into the world touching euerlasting saluation but onely cōcerning a temporall deliuerance neither to haue any thing to doe with men nowe liuing but with people long before this time deade Thus much in particular both touching his person and his office For his title in generall I haue to say that this title which is so ample and glorious being compared with the preface of the Apostles set before their writings wil soone discrie the diuersitie of spirits They dispatch vs touching the knowledge of themselues in the words of Seruant Apostle whē they stand the longest with vs vpō that matter By seruant declaring what they hold in common with all Christians by Apostle what they haue special in the function ministerie of the word Paul a seruāt of Iesus Christ called to be an Apostle Simon Peter a seruāt an Apostle of Iesus Christ And somtimes they are so sparing that they wil not spend both vpon vs. Iames a seruant of God and of the Lord Iesus Christ Peter an Apostle of Iesus Christ Iude a seruant of Iesus Christ But H. N. as if he could no longer beare such basenesse steppeth in before them with his stately stile and sayth H.N. Through the grace and mercie of God and through the holy spirite of the loue of Iesus Christ Raised vp by the highest God from the death according to the prouidence of God and his promises Anointed with the holy Ghost in the olde age of the holy vnderstanding of Iesus Christ Godded with God in the spirit of his loue Made heire with Christ in the heauenly goodes of the riches of God Illuminated in the spirite with the heauenly truth The true light of the perfect being Elected to a minister of the gracious worde which is now in the last time raised vp by God according to his promises in the most holy seruice of god vnder the obediēce of his loue What man measuring the matter by the outwarde face that is set vpon it would thinke the Apostles worthie to hold the candle to this mans cunning And what friend of theirs if H.N. would take vpon him to teach them the depth of his diuinitie would once seeme to offer with them lesse then the seruice of vii yeres Neither is there so great oddes betweene them in the multitude of titles as in the magnificence and dignitie of them How plain simple and farre from pride be the names of seruant Apostle How glorious swelling magnificēt be these speches Godded with God annointed with the holy Ghost in the olde age of the holy vnderstanding illuminated in the spirit the true light of the perfect being raised vp by the highest God frō the dead But no meruaile if H. N. be so glorious in titles for this he hath in common with the Heretikes of all times The Montanists who had their name beginning of Montanus the first heretike that practised to draw on disciples by procuring stipend and wages from the richer sorte of that sect to others the teachers and mainteyners thereof which was a baite that brought many to bite of those morsels and therefore vpon good consideration is nowe a freshe practised in this familie where there is so great famine of better arguments to perswade with all did affirme that they were wiser then the Apostles and alledged that place of the Apostle for it where Paule setting him selfe in the number with other sayeth We knowe in part For they mainteyned an absolute cleare and perfect reuelation in themselues affirming Montanus to be the holy Ghost promised to the Church whereof the Apostles had receyued but a little measure There were also a sect of people in that part of Pisidia which belongeth vnto Pamphilia who refused to receiue any into their felowship and communion that kept anie thing priuate and proper to themselues excluding them as straungers from the kingdome of God and they would be called Apostolici Apostolicall and be knowne by no other name Seruetus the heretike called himselfe Michael the keeper of the Church of God and the great prince of his people Dauid George H. N. his Schoole-maister though the scholer setting vp for himselfe will now take no more knowledge of anie maister or superiour calleth himselfe the seuenth Angell of GOD and the last trumpe And H. N. the father of this familie will bee godded with GOD and become the true light of the perfect being that in no wise hee might seeme to want that badge of boasting which is so speciall and proper vnto heretikes That which is commonly sayd of pictures and painted workes hath a fitte place in these workes of H.N. Picturae atque imagines eminùs non cominùs videndae Pictures and Images they are faire a farre off but if the eye drawe neare them there is then no sight or shew of them If a man looke at the diuinitie that is heere deliuered a farre off he would thinke it came from aboue the hiest heauen so great and goodly speaches of loue and peace be conteyned in it But come neare and lay it to the line of God his worde and beside that the lowest pit of hell shall not be able to afoorde worse wares then some that here be vttered It would
of saying I beleeue in Iesus Christ if we wil become scholers vnto H. N. we are to say I work Iesu Christ The matter that ministreth vnto vs faith and comfort in Iesus Christ is that he being God equall with his father hath notwithstanding abased himselfe in our nature and for our saluation vnto the estate of a seruant wherein he hath humbled himselfe vnto all reproch contempt anguish and bitternesse of paine both in soule and bodie in the time of his life and vnto all infamie and slander by his death For his death was the death of the crosse and his graue was giuen him with the wicked and the wicked had their will of him insomuch that the Prophet saith He was famous for his miserie and affliction This is that loue and friendship which the Apostle saith hath no fellow or match to be found among men For who hath beene found to offer himselfe to an infamous death for his friend the sonne of God doth it for his enemies For he was counted among the transgressours Here is the ground worke of our faith and comfort that when there was no religion or feare of God in vs and therefore deadly enmitie betwene him and vs yet so great was the good will he did beare vnto vs that himselfe would wade throughout all those raging waues to saue and preserue vs that were vnder the water of euerlasting destruction Here is the triumph of Christians in whom religion is in trueth begonne and his feare truely entered and therefore hatred banished and they truely reconciled that if his death were able of enemies to make friends his life which is of much more efficacie power shall well be able where friendship is begonne to continue it for euer If that which is weaker hath done the greater worke the stronger will bee much more able to goe thorowe with the lesse labour H. N. his Christ cutteth of all this comfort For his estate in suffring was not abased and lower then before it had beene but better and nearer vnto glorie H. N. his Christ was not equall with God before the time of his passion and humiliatiō but an vtter enimy vnto god For the time of his humiliation and suffering is from his first entrance into the familie vntill he become an illuminate elder before which time in his opinion hee is a straunger nay an vtter enimie to God and all godlinesse Here is then no argument of good will by abasing himselfe from a better estate vnto a worse whereby comfort especially commeth vnto vs Besides H.N. his Christ suffereth for his owne benefite for hee coulde not come to euerlasting ioy and his perfect estate vnlesse he should die in the flesh And this vtterly killeth all comfort for what argument of good will towardes vs can wee haue from another in that matter whereby himselfe is either the whole or at the least the greatest gayner Moreouer shall his death by reconciling of vs to God which is the greater worke from the weaker instrument put vs in assured hope to be safely kept by his life vnto eternall glorie when wee are both by our owne death suffering to rid vs from the daunger of our sinnes reconcile vs vnto our God and by our life to continue and preserue our selues vnto glorie Howe fearefull is the fall of H.N. and his familie that haue forsaken the true Messias that bringeth so great comfort vnto mankinde to imbrace so cursed and comfortlesse a Christ H.N. The fift Article We beleeue that the God of Abraham hath raysed vp this his sonne Iesus from the dead and that hee euen so the third day rose againe from the dead and appeared or made manifest himselfe vnto his friends which loued him shewing vnto them through his suffering and death of the Crosse the victorie ouer the sinne death deuill hell the flesh and the worlde Answere The resurrection of H.N. his Christ answereth vnto that doctrine which he hath deliuered before touching his death For as that was nothing but a passing out of the flesh or letter of the law which is a condition common to the Nouices and yong ones in H.N. his schoole so this is the resurrection when a man is come into the spirit or that estate of perfection which his illuminate elders are pertakers of That which hath beene spoken of before may sufficiently satisfie vs touching H.N. his opinion that thus he thinketh and not otherwise of the resurrection yet shall it not be amisse to adde one testimonie out of his Euangelie where of purpose he handleth the resurrection of Christ it is in the. 22. Chapter where he speaketh thus Now whē Iesu Christ was foūd faithful in the death of his crosse til vnto his burial to a true Passeouer out of the flesh into the making aliue according to the spirit was also through the power of God his father raised vp frō the death and made aliue againe and that he had shewed himselfe in his making aliue vnto his disciples for that they should stedfastly beleeue so was he then wholy taken vp from the eyes of their fleshe and he set himselfe according to the spirite at the right hande of God his father in the heauenly being and entred euen so as the true high Priest when as the seruice had perfectly ended his course according to the true being in the holy into the most holy his disciples therefore were mindful of all this and what he had said vnto them remained within Ierusalem wayting concordably with supplication and praier for the promises of the father vntil that Christ after the spirite appeared vnto them out of the heauenly being the most holy in the holy in spirituall and heauenly powers like as hee after the Spirite and according to the trueth of the heauenly Godhead is an euerlasting and true Christ of GOD. He is plaine as you heare in this point that Christ his resurrection and making aliue was according to the spirite for he sayth that Iesus Christ was founde faythfull in his death of the crosse to a true Passouer out of the flesh into the making aliue according to the spirit He is likewise as plaine in this that his sitting at the right hand of God is in spirit spiritual For those are his very words as you haue heard he set himselfe according to the spirit at the right hād of god his father in the heauēly being More ouer he is of opinion that he is not a true Christ but as he speaketh imagineth of him that is according to the spirit For touching this point these are his words He after the spirit and according to the trueth of the heauenly Godhed is an euerlasting and true Christ of God. And that in this absurd doctrine heauē earth might come togither and a mingle mangle made of all things hee shameth not to affirme that Christ is the holy ghost and that the doctrine which is deliuered in the 2.
of the heauenly goods which are administred and brought thorow the seruice of loue to an euerlasting perfection vnto the vpright of heart and wherin al vnperfect or childish things Images figures and shadowes do ceasse becommeth nowe in this present day O ye louers of the truth euangelized and declared vnto you all and thereto also yee all so well as we were created for to liue therein and are called and bidden vnto the same out of the grace and mercie of God by me H. N. in whom God hath sealed the dwelling of his glorie and his holie name Wee are taught out of the worde of God to beleeue and assuredly to looke for the resurrection of this our flesh which by death is taken downe and layde into the dust For by that league and couenant wherein the Lord standeth bound vnto vs to become our God he hath not onely taken our soule but our fleshe and bodie also into his fatherly protection and that not for the time of this life alone but in like maner for the life to come And therefore our Sauiour Christ Iesus by these words of the couenant proueth that the dead shal rise againe yea that Abraham who had bene alreadie partaker of rising from sinne in truth the shadow whereof H.N. vrgeth for the rising againe of the flesh should haue yet an other resurrection which is to rise vp in flesh and bone to inherite euerlasting comfort as well in bodie as in soule For as the godly doe glorifie GOD here vpon earth both in bodie and soule so shall they likewise be glorified of him in both in the life to come And this is an article of our beliefe and especiall comfort left vnto Christians But how can it be that H.N. should be priuie vnto these such like comfortes who is vtterly ignoraunt of Christ the procurer of thē The Apostle Paule whose conuersation was in heauen and therefore already possessed of the rising from sinne looked notwithstanding for this resurrection of the bodie when it should be chaunged and made like vnto the glorious bodie of Iesus Christ as it is written in the Epistle to the Philippians But our cōuersation is in heauen from whence also wee looke for the sauiour euen the Lord Iesus Christ who shall chaunge our vile bodies that it may be fashioned like vnto his glorious bodie according to the working whereby hee is able euen to subdue all things vnto himselfe It is manifest then by this which hath bene spoken that the resurrectiō of the bodie cannot be drowned as H.N. his doctrine doeth teach vs in the rising from sinne and wickednesse And beside in this short abstract of the principal points of our faith is it possible to perswade any man that one and the same thing shoulde bee the matter and argument of sundrie articles Now by the doctrine of H.N. this article is the same in effect with those of Christ his rising the third day frō the dead his ascending into heauē his sitting at the right hand of God his father yea it is the same in meaning with those of the holy ghost the holy catholike Church the cōmunion of Saints the forgiuenes of sinnes For all these be nothing else besides that estate of life which his doctrine doeth describe to bee the louely being and that estate of perfection which his illuminate elders bee possessed of What cause haue all true hearted Christians to crie out agaynst this doctrine which shrinketh vp so manie and speciall comfortes so proper and peculiar vnto them H. N. The .xij. Article And we beleeue one euerlasting life Amen We confesse that the same euerlasting life is a true light of men and that God hath made and chosen him the man hereto that hee shoulde liue in the same light euerlastingly it is verie true Answere This euerlasting life which H. N. speaketh of is no other thing then that doctrine which he professeth And therfore he calleth it a true light of men according as we haue heard before in his title that in respect of this doctrine he chalengeth vnto him selfe to bee called the true light of the perfect being alledging the same place that here is cited for proofe thereof But least some might say that this place is not plaine inough to warrant this to be their opinion let vs heare himself open his owne meaning more at large These are his owne wordes in the 34. Chapter of his Euangelie Section 4. In this same day or last time namely in the perfection of the workes of God in his righteous iudgement the God of heauē hath now declared himself his christ together with al his saints to vs his elect also made a dwelling with vs brought euen so vnto vs out of his holy being the most holie of his true tabernacle with the fulnes of his garnishing and spiritual heauenly riches to an euerlasting fast standing Ierusalem and house for Gods dwelling according to the Scripture the which is the verie true vndisturbable kingdome full of all godly power ioy and of all heauenly beautifulnesse wherin the land of the lord with fulnesse of eternall life and louely sweetenesse is sung from euerlasting to euerlasting and wherein all mindes of pure heartes doe dwell liue and walke with freedome and Christian triumph in all loue This day of loue is with him as you heare the last time and therefore nowe doeth God make his dwelling with vs and bringeth the fulnesse of his spiritual riches And this kingdome as he sayeth here is the verie true vndisturbable kingdome full of all godly ioy and heauenly beautifulnes wherein is the fulnesse of eternall life He calleth it the eternall life because this doctrine must reigne on earth for euer and therefore in his exposition vpon this Article he doeth not affirme that anie one man shall liue in the same light euerlastingly but speaking indefinitely sayeth the man shall liue in it euerlastingly because there shall bee from hencefoorth in all times hereafter men founde that shall walke in perfecte obedience vnto this Doctrine It appeareth likewise out of his Euangelie that he professeth euerlasting life to be nothing else but his doctrine So that to liue in perfect obedience vnto that is no other thing then to liue in the life euerlasting in that light that shineth therein And it is therefore called euerlasting because it shal be professed for euer and no religion preuaile against it These bee his owne woordes Euangelie 37.13 Therefore also is this day or light of the loue with his seruice in the most holie the last day and the perfection or conclusion of all the workes of God in the which God himselfe with his Christ and with all the thousandes of his Saintes as in the moste holy of his true tabernacle appeareth and commeth vnto the beleeuers and obedient ones to the requiring of his worde to an eternall rest of his holy ones and to a godly consolation for all afflicted
to the Churche of GOD howe pernicious to the common wealth and priuate families and howe farre from the spirite of GOD forasmuche as thereby the Lorde Iesus is bereft of all his kingly Priestly and Propheticall dignitie all godlinesse is ouer throwen a windowe is opened to all sinnes and wickednesse to fraude deceipt lying fornication theft idolatrie and couetousnesse and after this life the hope of eternall life in immortall fleshe and the feare of hel fire are taken from the mindes of men euery one hauing but a sparke of godlinesse and of the knowledge of Christ doeth easily perceiue so that there needeth not heere manye woordes for the confutation thereof This one thing is briefly to be added that it may not seme woonderfull to any yf many in our age doe fall into this so grosse an errour For in suche disagreementes of true religion men knowyng the Idolatrie of the papacie the whiche can bee vnknowen to none but too the dullest kinde of men and beeing terrified from the profession of true religion through the feare of persecutions troubles or of pride plucking away the shoulders from vnder the yooke of Christe doe moste easily fall into that moste detestable errour which is beautified with the Title of sweete peace and concorde is verie plausible through the large promise of lyberty God also is iust with punisheth this intollerable vnthankefulnes of the worlde agaynst Christ and his word with such grosse errours according to that prophecie of the Apostle Because they receiued not the loue of the trueth that they might be saued Therfore god wil send thē strōg delusion that they may beleeue lies ▪ that al they might bee damned which haue not beleued the truth but haue had pleasure in vnrighteousnesse But if any shal more diligently examine the Apostolical prophecies w are written in the 2. Tim. 3. 2 Pet. 2. 3. Chapter and in the epistle of Iude concerning the last times shal then be sufficiently armed against that diuelishe peace We are also admonished in the Scriptures that true peace is enclosed in certayne limites least we shoulde be deceiued with some vaine shadowe of peace For true peace is ioyned with an vnspeakable knot to faith and charitie It consisteth also in a good thing and that also according to Christ as it is manifest by these words of the Apostle Nowe abideth faith hope and charitie these three Again Let euery one of vs please his neighbour in that which is good or in a good thing to edificatiō Also The God of pacience and consolatiō giue you that yee bee lyke minded one towardes another according to Iesus Christe that yee with one minde and one mouth may prayse God euen the father of our Lord Iesus Christe Away therfore with this newe cursed peace togeather with the house the founder therof which passeth neither for faith nor hope and is occupied in euil thinges and forbidden of GOD and shutteth out Iesus Christe For yf the studie of peace excused not Aaron for makyng a Calfe nor Saule for sacrificing nor Peter for dissembling neither shall these truely escape vnpunished of the Lorde who vnder the title of peace ouerthrowe all honestie and religion especially seeing that the Prophetes in olde time haue vehemently cryed against all promise of false peace Esay also crieth Woe to them which call euill good and good euill which put darknesse for light and light for darkenesse who put sowre for sweete and sweete for sowre This same people of peace as they wil be called cannot free it selfe from this faulte whiles that it leaueth those thinges free to them of their owne profession which GOD in his woorde hath seuerely punished and moste greeuously condempned Hitherto therefore we hope it hath beene sufficiently shewed of vs howe greatly wee ought to take heede of them all who to the godly that are inlightened with the true knowledge of the Gospell wyl haue that departing from the impure congregations and superstitions of the Romishe Churche to be vnlawfull ⁂ A Confutation of the Doctrine of Dauid George and H. N. the Father of the Familie of Loue By M. Nicholas Charinaeus who died heere at London Minister of the woorde in the Dutch Churche about the beginning of September in the yeere 1563. DAVID George of whom mencion is made before added to the foresayde argumentes of the aduersaries agaynst the obseruation of the Ecclesiasticall congregations that the vse of all rytes and ceremonies instituted of Christe was simply taken away by him because that hee as he thought executing the office of the holy Ghost should lead al men into all trueth and shoulde bryng foorth that which was perfect and therfore shoulde abolishe that which was but in part And seeyng that hee fained that his doctrine is moste perfect more excellent and farre surpassing the doctrine of Christ as which must be constrained to geue place vnto him whatsoeuer the scripture witnesseth of mans perfection in the commyng of Christ al that hee so impudently draweth vnto hym selfe and to his doctrine that he promiseth vnto him self to his disciples the ful dominion of the whole world immortalitie also perfect righteousnes yea that in this flesh vnderstanding by the name of perfect righteousnes that same inward affection of the minde altogeather free from all sence of sinne But a certaine chiefe builder of the house and Citie of peace and a framer of that same glasse of righteousnesse perceiuing that yet that same full libertie was not permitted vnto men by Dauid George as he that yet bounde them vnto his person boasteth that hee hath found out a more perfect doctrine then that was of Dauids To wit that whosoeuer dwelleth in the house of Loue not onely is free from all religion of Christ but also altogeather from all outward religion and from all holy ceremonies Nowe he calleth loue that same affection of the minde by which a man neyther feeleth in hym selfe nor in any other any euyll or sinne but all thinges what soeuer they bee hee interpreteth them to bee good Now because the neere kindred of the opinions of both these Antichristes doe not onely bryng to nothyng the religious obseruation of Ecclesiastical congregations which come togeather in the name of Christ but also taketh out of the mindes of men the hope of the life to come in Christe Iesus and doeth open windowes doores to al iniquities I am constrayned to confute it in this place and that in fewe woordes First of all I require of both of them that they woulde playnely prooue by manyfest testimonies out of the holy Scripture that the doctrine of the Gospel of Iesus Christ must once bee abolished out of the Churche and a nother more perfect succeede in the place thereof and if it ought too bee abolished that it is theirs that ought to succeed it to continue for euer Besides that let them perfourme those thinges in deede which the holy Scripture
find in thy hart to afford God for thy welth It followeth we must liue godly this necessarily is ioyned to righteousnesse For it were but a vaine thing to be precise in geuing man his right then to withholde the Lord his thorowe impietie Wee must communicate with him as I tolde you before in his worde Receiue the lawe of his mouth and lay vp his wordes in thy heart Dauid hauing declared before howe the heauens doe declare the glorie of God and howe the creatures doe leade vs vnto some knowledge of him immediately as one rauished with the maiestie and excellencie of that knowledge of God which we haue by the worde and as one who taketh that other kinde of teaching to be nothing in respect of this affirmeth that the lawe of the Lorde conuerteth the soule that it giueth wisedome to the simple giueth light to the eyes and bringeth ioy to the heart making these to be the special prerogatiues of the worde of GOD which neither by the creatures nor yet by anie other outward meanes may be atteined vnto It behoueth vs therefore to haue often vse of the woorde of GOD not onely to take our knowledge from thence howe to serue him but also to seeke for incouragement and quickening therevnto from it For the woorde of God quickeneth vs to our dueties and stirreth vp the slownesse that by nature is in vs A notable example whereof we haue in the 2. of the Chronicles cap. 15. Wee are likewise to rest vpon his goodnesse whereof hee hath made vs such large promises in his worde to applie his benefites as speciall helpes to strengthen our fayth in the perswasion of his fatherly affection towardes vs and to prouoke our obedience the rather thereby and to bee often and earnest in prayer with him both to haue our strength and abilitie to serue him by that meanes increased and also to prouide that neither by our subtile aduersarie nor yet by our owne frailtie wee bee intrapped in the nette of destruction For albeit by his grace our spirite bee readie yet haue wee a weake fleshe which is to bee dragged forward by strength obteyned thorow prayer from our god These things must wee bee giuen vnto and neither by a plaine reiecting of them and erecting of our owne deuotion neither yet by a colde and carelesse vse of them to tempt the Lorde and to vpholde vs in vngodlinesse and the fruites thereof The Papistes Anabaptists Libertines and familie of Loue are all sworne enemies vnto godlinesse for as much as they will haue the woorde altogither subiect to their spirite For they will haue it not to speake but as their spirit shall indite and herevpon they build that they are the Church and therefore haue a promise of the holy Ghost to keepe them that they erre not Enquire of a Papist from whence come their vnwritten verities and manifolde traditions they answere there were many thinges that the Apostles then were not able to beare which the holie spirite beeing nowe come hath taught them The Anabaptists Libertines and house of Loue vrged with the Scripture will aske you what sayeth the Spirite affirming that to bee but the killing letter Thus both of them howsoeuer in other things greatly differing haue this common principle for their foundation and beginning that the Scriptures beeing but an ABC to Christianitie the spelling and reading thereof must be drawne from their Spirite as if the Gospel should giue place to reuelations and so carie with it the staine of imperfection or as if the Spirite could be diuorced from the written woorde which it was sent to teach and confirme As it is written He shal bring all thinges to your remembrance which I haue tolde you What can bee a more shamefull abasing of Christ then to make him but vsher and their Spirite in place aboue him chiefe Schoolemaister that as the law brought vs by the hande to Christe so Christ shoulde bee our guide vnto reuelation and resigne vnto it as the lawe did vnto him They will not denie the woorde but in trueth they make it a matter of nothing For they will allowe no sence vnto it but suche as their Spirite shall sette vppon it So that in verie deede howe so euer they woulde bee thought to leade vs to the woorde they doe leade their Disciples onely to the dreames and deuises of their owne heade In the time of the Law when visions and reuelations were often and vsuall yet were they then subiect to the worde and to be tried by it nay to be ouerruled of it According as we reade If there arise among you a Prophet and giue thee a signe or wonder and the signe or wonder which he hath told thee come to passe saying let vs go after other gods thou shalt not hearken vnto the wordes of the Prophet ye shall walke after the Lord your God and shal keepe his commandements and hearken vnto his voice but that Prophet shal be slaine because he hath spoken to thrust thee out of the way wherein the Lord thy God commaunded thee to walke If in the times when visions and reuelations had their best alowance the most lawful title that euer they had all that notwithstanding they were to giue vp their account vnto the written worde of God and from thence to receiue their quietus est Wee may not then in these times receiue such wares vnder the alone warrant of their owne weightes when faith must fight against miracles and reuelations for the woorde which in the infancie of the Church was helped by miracles vnto the worde Howe can there bee anie true godlinesse among this people among whom God is not licenced to speake in his worde what pleaseth him but the worde strained by their spirite to speake after the liking of miserable men Great is the vngodlinesse likewise of those men who hauing banished superstition and fantasticall reuelation yet for all that leaning vnto the holde of their profession of the trueth as vnto a sufficient fortresse doe not submitte themselues to anie often and earnest vse of the woorde and prayer with conscience and care to haue their wayes refourmed by it and with perswasion of anie great necessitie that they haue of it We can not geue our selues vnto these dueties vnlesse we shal be in the expectation and lookinge after the hope of an other life therfore very fitly doth the Apostle ioyne vnto these seuerall duties that wee haue hearde of this speache Waiting for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of the mightie God our Sauiour Iesus Christe For it can not come to passe we shoulde bee taken of from things here belowe vnlesse we be assured ells where No man wil let goe things assured for vncertaine Faith must geue vs assuraunce of greater glory from god ere we can let goe the hould that wee haue here Therfore it is made a speciall note of god his children and necessarily ioyned to his worshippe to bee in