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A19569 A triall of our church-forsakers. Or A meditation tending to still the passions of unquiet Brownists, upon Heb.10.25 Wherein is iustified, against them, that the blessed Church of England 1 Is a true Church. 2 Hath a true ministry. 3 Hath a true worship. By Robert Abbot ... Abbot, Robert, 1588?-1662? 1639 (1639) STC 60; ESTC S100380 140,135 286

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The words without curiosity present these three parts unto you First the vertue of some Christians or rather the act of it Secondly the vice of others or rather the act of many vices and thirdly the use to be made of eschewing the one and following the other The act of vertue in all Christians who would keep what they have is m●n to forsake the assembling of our selves together to keep publick communion of saints in the acts of religion and worship The act of vices in some Christians who have no care to keepe what they have or a vicious care to get something worse is to forsake the assemblies though the division of Reuben make great thoughts of heart The use that is to be made of flying the vices of these and following the vertue of the others is to gaine ability from sound judgment and due consideration to exhort one another which hee sets on with a motive because the day is approaching in which all must give accounts according to receits Thus have yee seene in a word that a christian hath a rich and precious estate that God is willing he should keep it to bring him to heaven that it is possible for him to doe so in Gods way that this way is here set downe and therefore further follow it with me to Gods glory and your good SECT 2. The way to keepe a Christian state is publick communion TO speake first of the act of vertue of all good christians If they would draw neere to heaven and stand fast there they must not forsake the assemblings of our selves together they must love church assemblies and the publicke fellowship of the saints in a word they that are good and would be better must choose to bee where Gods people are in publicke service for the common faith and our common salvation All the best saints and people of God have been ever for this They have loved and delighted to pray reade meditate and conferre in private but were most glad when others would say unto them let us go into the house of the Lord. They mourned when they could not go with the throng of them that went to the house of God with the voice of joy and praise to keepe holy day Yea they accounted a day in his courts better then a thousand and had rather bee doorekeepers in the house of God then to dwel in the tents of ungodlinesse Not onely they under the law were for it when yet Gods blessings were in drops to ours in pouring showres but as it was prophecied that in the daies of Christ christians should say come let us goe up to the mountaine of the Lord to the house of the God of Iacob so was it fulfilled by the first converted Jewes and Gentiles as wee see in the history of the Acts. Yea in the hardest times and dayes of persecution when goods liberties and lives lay at the stake how readily did they deprive themselves of naturall comforts for spiritual To the caves and holes of the earth to stinking mines and pits to woods and dens would they flock when they had no places authorised for assemblings to perform their devotions and publick worships This hath beene ever the glorious practise of Gods people and we cannot wonder at it when wee consider the presence in our assemblies and the benefit that ariseth from them First in our assemblies are Gods people Gods Angels Gods ordinances and God himselfe There are Gods people who have respect due unto them from the greatest Princes in the world Paul speaking to all sorts of Christians saith submit your selves one unto another in the feare of the Lord and there is a double submission of Reverence of Service By the first all inferiours must submit themselves to their elders and to every ordinance of man for the Lords sake By the second even the highest must submit to the lowest for good Thus Peter hath it bee subject one to another and that ye may not be hindered hee cloathed with humility Thus Esay prophecied Kings and Queenes shall bow down to the church with their faces to the earth and shal lick up the dust of her feete Not by a subjection of reverence as if they must be underlings to the censures of that particular congregation whereof they are as Brownists would have it whereof hereafter but by a subjection of service when they use their crownes and dignities for the honour and advancement of religion as every good king doth For they must not despise one of Christs little ones but with many people and strong nations seek the Lord and take hold of the skirt of him that is a Iew that is a religious person saying we will go with you for we have heard the Lord is with you there are the Angels also This was figured in the curtaines of the Tabernacle where Cherubims were wrought of cunning worke and in the walls of the temple where were carved the carvings of Cherubims yea this also hath been taught by the Apostle who would have women to have power on their heads that is a vaile as a significant ceremony of subjection to the man among the Corinthians because of the Angels who are their guardians and there more especially present with them There are with Gods people and angels Gods ordinances also both the word prayer and sacraments The word to bee a seed of immortality and a word of life praier to powre out our soules that God and all grace may have roome enough to dwell in them and the sacraments to be the seales of the righteousnesse of faith and so the buckets of heaven to convey grace by Gods assistance and covenant to the worthy receivers Lastly there is with Gods people angels and ordinances God himselfe For though wee cannot limit him to temples made with hands yet Christ having promised to be with his Apostles alwaies to the end of the world which therefore must be enlarged to their successours when they were dead and he having presented himselfe in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks and lastly having covenanted for his word and spirits going together therefore certainely hee is by way of special favour in the assemblings of his people If to the Jewes much more to us because the ministration of the spirit is much more glorious Lay now this together that in our assemblings there are Gods people Gods Angels Gods ordinances and God himselfe and yee cannot wonder that the good have chosen to dwel in publick assemblies if it might be for ever Secondly in our assemblies all things are for benefit every thing is edifiable And if our hearts were in tune and our heads full of the expectation of Gods spirituall blessings in heavenly things in Christ how might the kingdome of sinne and Satan fall downe like lightning as the walls of Iericho at the sound of
the church of Corinth is called the body of Christ and members in particular This church as any other particular church may be considered two wayes In it selfe and so it was a body with reference to other churches and so it was a member of the catholick church But consider it both or either of these wayes if it bee the body of Christ if a member of his body or if both Christ is the head of it hee is in the midst of the seven golden candlestickes Therefore also the church of Ephesus is called the house of God and as in an house there is an head the husband is the wifes head so but more transcendently is Christ the head of every particular house or church For God hath set his sonne over his own house and our high-priest is over the house of God This is t●ue But thirdly say the Brownists what is that to us Christ is not our head Yes Christ is the head of our church of England For doe but consider 1 Wherein Christs headship stands 2 How hee useth and exerciseth it Christs headship doth stand in providing fit meanes for the gathering and enlarging of his visible church or churches and making them effectuall There is a foundation to bee layd which properly is Christ and for and from him the Prophets and Apostles There are builders yea master builders as well as others to bee provided There are materials to be at hand saints by calling some of which grow up to be lively stones a spirituall house that they may be Gods building These faithfull ones must be laied and coupled together as by joints till they grow into an holy temple for the habitation of the Lord by the spirit Now that this may be done Christ is the principal agent he adds unto his church that they may come to the father by him And withall hee provides his word that they might believe and ministers by whom they may doe it and the sacraments that they may bee baptized into his death and have the communion of the bloud of Christ Hee rests not heere but to make them effectual in the use of these means hee comes amongst these citizens with the saints and grants to those that by grace receive the spirit which is of God repentance unto life and faith to purifie their hearts and so hee addeth to the church from day to day a great number that believe and turne unto the Lord. But for those that come in to the voyce of the word and supper of the gospel in word and sacraments and have Simon Magus Iudas Hymeneus Alexander and Demas his heart if the conviction of themselves and the conversion of others and their perseverance doe them no good he shewes sometimes what they deserve by fearefull judgements and the censures of the church but hee will shew it in full power when the great day of separation comes Now looke in the feare of God whether our ever blessed Iesus Christ bee not thus our head Have wee not thorough grace the word of God gifts ministery and sacraments from Christs rule Say the Brownists ye have not all Christs ordinances yee want his discipline To that I shall speake in due place in the meane time put case it were true yet were it a true visible church though not a perfect one That is an ordinance for the comely and well being not for the being of the church But it lies upon them to prove that what they say we want are Christs ordinances and branches or his kingdome This they never can doe by the undoubted word of Christ Besides hath not Christ our head in the use and exercise of these blessings manifested his effectuall power How many iniquities are subdued and sinnes cast into the depthes of the sea what place is there where we shall not find the serpents head broken Some have beene in their ordinary businesses as the woman of Samaria and have come off with the bells of the horses pots in Ierusalem and Iudah as well as pots in the Lords house engraved with holinesse unto the Lord. Some have been disciplined with the misery of the h●sks of swine and have beene translated out of the kingdome of darkenesse into the kingdome of Gods deare sonne Some have heard and read good things to scoffe and cavill at them but have been suddenly changed from glory to glory as by the spirit of the Lord. Some have breathed out the stinking breath of sinne as Saul and others have seene the heates of persecutions and they have returned home to call upon the name of the Lord Iesus both theirs and ours Yea and some have seene others fall away from the faith of Christ and by the preaching of Christ have met with graffing in the riches of the Gentiles reconciling and salvation And though with Christ they have had a sword sent yet bonds in Christ have beene famous and the brethren in the Lord have waxed confident and bold to speake the word without feare Thus hath it beene with our blessed church the kingdome of heaven hath suffered violence and the violent have taken it by force But the ministery of the Brownists hath had no such communion and influence with and from Christ our head one of a city two of a tribe heere a little and there a little doth not answer in a continuall course from Christ hither the power of Christs intercession for the heathen for his inheritance and the uttermost part of the earth for his possession But say the Brownists wee have other heads besides Christ I say we have no other mysticall head beside Christ but onely politicall heads to keepe peace and to see that every person within their compasse doe his duty religiously Thus the husband is the wives head the honorable man the head Saul the head of the Tribes and Moses chose men of courage and made them heads over the people But say they our King is our head so as to rule in matters of religion This is true yet fourthly co●sider that this headship of the King doth not hinder ●ut helpe the advancement of Christs headship and that according to the word of Christ To cleare this follow mee in two particulars 1 That God hath given a power of governement to the Church for the well ordering of it selfe 2 That Christ hath made Kings prime officers to advance it in their places As a man cannot well be without cloathes good nourture so neither can the Church well be without the walles of government She must also bee able to hold up her head against her enemies that shall say by what authority dost thou these things and who made thee a man of authority Therefore hath Christ given the particular or generall rules of the word to give a commission to the Church to governe it selfe both in matters
is appeares by Gods Covenant with Abraham where God required sincerity by the morall law which was Gods covenant by Gods requiring then truth in the inward part by his injoyning sacrifices for morall transgressions as well as ceremoniall by his signifying of pollution by morall uncleannesses and by threatning of morall sinnes and abhorring all ceremoniall service when men sinned morally against God Surely their morall pollutions went beyond their typicall and wrought their utter ruine at last notwithstanding The Temple of the Lord the Temple of the Lord and yet Christ himselfe would not separate from such worshippers as were polluted so long as the worship was Gods It was fit for a Pharise it was not fit for Christ who knew that to the pure all things are pure The last conclusion is this That the Scripture admits godly Christians to the holy things of God though open wicked men be there Divers good people goe to the Altar with their gifts Some are in charity and some wickedly uncharitable their brethren have something against them Now Christ doth not bid them all goe away because of that malicious man but bids him that is malicious if he would have Gods blessing goe and be reconciled and come againe Againe when Paul saw fearefull wickednesse in Corinthian Communions hee doth not bid them all abstaine for feare of pollution but according as hee had received of the Lord he bids them examine themselves and so let them eate of this bread and drinke of this Cup whatsoever others be Certainely the Apostle was not acquainted with the doctrine of the Brownists which teacheth that because another doth sinne I may not doe my duty to God because a wicked man will come to the Sacrament I may not because another man offendeth God in serving him I may not serve him then for feare of pollution No king shall have subjects nor master have servant nor shall God have worshippers upon these termes But say they the worship of God is polluted by such uncleane worshippers This is true but to whom to them that serve him aright or to them that serve him amisse The Apostle saith that the unworthy communicant eateth and drinketh judgement to himselfe not to them that are better It is true that hee that touched a dead body and purified not himselfe defiled the tabernacle but it was unto himselfe who therefore was to bee cut off and not others that were innocent It is true too that the judgement of the priests was right that if an uncleane person touch bread pottage wine oyle or meate it shall be uncleane to himselfe that is uncleane but not to him that toucheth it that is cleane and so a prophane christian that comes to the Lords supper pollutes not what the minister performes and good people receive but what himselfe toucheth It is true also that a seditious multitude charged Paul falsely that he polluted the holy place by bringing Greekes into the Temple For though God forbade the Israelites to admit the Moabites and Ammonites for a long time into the common-wealth of Israel what is this to prose●ites by profession comming into the temple All this is true I say yet this typical pollution which did not foreshadow the pollution of visible assemblies but the holinesse and impurity and sincere Christians and hypo crites doth not prove the pollution of all worship to the good for the naughtinesse of the bad Christ is not so hard a master neither doth hee blame the worthy guests for being polluted by the unworthy or suffering him to come in but saith to him onely friend how camest thou in hither not having on a wedding garment SECT 12. Brownists last exception against our Church about the governement of it for Power FRom the Brownists meaning by a true Church and their entrance into head and members of a true church we are at last come to the governement of a true church and because they finde ours not to bee governed according to their fansies therefore they except against it as Antichristian and therefore not a true Church It is true that governement is an excellent blessing it is as the bridle to the horse the rudder to the ship yea the lawes and judgement seate of a kingdome A right to this cannot be separated from a true church For if it bee a church it hath right to Christs lawes judgements and executions to governe it as his kingdome upon earth Yea the use of this right cannot bee taken away without the great sinne of them that doe it and injury to the church from whom it is taken yea the Church that is robbed of it ought not to rest in this wrong when they are so oppressed but ought of dutie to pray to God for it and humbly to supplicate unto men in authority who are able as Christs prime officers for the welfare of the Church to helpe them at such a lift But no Church ought to call for such a governement as Christ never commanded yea no church ought when they have a governement sutable to the Apostles and primitive times of the Church and not contrary to any law of Christ but sutable to his generall rules in the scriptures for some pretended or true defects in governement to make a schism and separation from publick communion Yes say the Brownists where government is so base that foule corruptions rule from such a Church wee must separate But who laid this must upon you I am sure not Christ who taught us otherwise in his blessed life There were fearefull corruptions in the Church of the Jewes both in the priests in the people and in the worship of God In the priests there was ignorance for they were blinde guides There was ungodlines for they said and did not There was corrupt entrance into their calling for Caiphas was high-priest for that yeare hee was Annuary be like though by Gods law the high-priest should continue during life In the people there was obstinate wickednesse They would have broke Christs necke downe a steepe hill They rejected him and chose Barabbas They were in worse state then Tyrus Sidon and Sodome They drew and wisht the guilt of Christs bloud to bee upon them and their children In the worshippe of God they used many superstitions precisely the temple was made a denne of theeves the Censures were abused for the casting out of innocents the doctrine of God was corrupted by glosses and the blessed sacraments were abused for they observed not the Passeover on the time appointed and therefore Christs was before theirs Notwithstanding all these corruptions by slack governement yet did Christ hold publicke cōmunion with them Hee was circumcised the eight day he was presented to the Lord as well as others he heard was baptized he eat the Passeover with them and allowed his disciples to heare the very Pharisees Can they therfore justly say that
all that came into their communion They would runne into invited and unnecessary dangers This they called martyrdom whether they suffered from themselves or others I am sure also that our forsakers will not owne these for their setters up in all points if for nothing else yet for this they had Bishops Heere was a separation long and irkesom yet surely they will not be of such an episcopall separation Thirdly besides the separatiō of Lucifer who falling at odds with Eusebius Vercellensis about the ordination of honest Paulinus departed in choler from the peace of the church and made a proud breach wee reade about the yeare after Christ three hundred seventy one of one Audeus a Syrian who raised up by the cōmon opinion of his zeal and integrity a company of followers who would not pray with other Christians and Bishops crying these downe as being too rich who also gave this reason of their separation that in the bosome of the church were suffered usurers and impure livers These sometimes dwelt in solitary places by themselves and sometimes in the suburbs of cities They fained also great holinesse and chastity and dreamed God to have mans forme and humane parts But their sect outlived not their persons and I am sure also that our forsakers wil not acknowledge themselves to bee of this condemned breed Fourthly when the thoughts of the best christians were taken up with more weighty matters and the necessity of times had invited them to faith and doctrine or the vaile of darkenesse had covered too many hearts these pettie sidings beganne to vanish and were at last utterly extinct till the light of the Gospel shined upon the church with fuller glorie againe Then as the enemy troubled the wheat with blasted corne our forsakers say they had a church againe In king Henry the eights and Luthers dayes they finde say they some congregations upon their bottome And indeed wee finde in stories that some of their vaine opinions crept into the heads of some right godly persons in other points who were ready to suffer for Christ and did so for it is hard not to fall from one extreamity to another if sound judgement according to the rule given doe not poise the lightnesse of affections But these in Germany were crowned with the name of Anabaptists whose doctrine and practise to overthrow the Church and state are well knowne and as well confuted and condemned by Luther Calvine Zanchius and an whole army of others But our forsakers I am sure will not own these in all points neither will they owne them because they forsake them also in some Fiftly therefore wee must goe lower yet and if wee come to the daies of blessed Queene Elizabeth after divers strugglings for excesses which surely is no friend to the Gospel among variety of judgements which know but in part wee meete with one Browne who first raiseth a new platforme of all the tenets of our forsakers if yet by time and age they have not made them worse This man after hee had infected some by preaching found meanes to poison others by writing of his Estate of true Christians and other pamphlets His conceits within this last age have lived and died by turnes as they have been the objects of discontēted or quiet spirits If humble soules have met with them they have seene in them the poison of peace the renting of the seamelesse coate of Christs church the building upon a covenant of workes and the hindering of the progresse of the Gospell in faith and love But if they have beene cast upon a raging sea of an unquiet and disjointed heart they have bred Barrowes Greenwoods Penries Robinsons Iohnsons Aynsworths and Smiths the onely men so farre as I know of that full straine who have tasted of more or lesse learning ill placed from Christs time downward Seeing therfore Browne is the first full-father of our forsakers who raised up their building to that height they would faine maintaine it at surely they can have no other name of justice then Brownists which they must hold except they can prove that theirs is a newer way Indeed Browne did afterward fall away from them and his owne tenets for the most part But seeing the first authour justly gives the name as that carpenter that builds an house for the building of it though afterward hee burne it down therefore I cannot bee so unjust as to suffer them by mee to bee called by any other then that they received from him in his new christianity If now you aske the issue of this discourse it is to draw to this conclusion that this church of theirs was never heard of till Brownes time and so I argue thus That which never was a true church from Christs time to the daies of Queene Elizabeth was not a true church then nor is a true church now for the gates of hell must not prevaile against it But the Brownists church was never a true church from Christs time to the dayes of Queene Elizabeth Therefore it was not a true church then nor is now as they would have it If they say that some of their opinions were of old I confesse it is true But let them shew but one church which either positively in all points which make their church to them a church or negatively in denying contrary tenets held by the true church and then they shall bee the true church for mee But it may bee they will say that the church of Rome thus disputes against us It is true and so doe wee against them about their church built up by the late councell of Trent affirming confidently that there was never one church but was under the curse of that councel if it had beene of force before But when they plead so against us wee goe to that which made true visible churches in the Apostles dayes and ever since that is professed submission to the rule of faith in the scriptures and a profession of faith in the trinity especially in Jesus Christ our Lord that rocke whereupon the church is built and so long as we have this wee feare not their plea. If they say that they doe thus much to make them a true church also It is true they doe it as wee doe and yet they denie us so doing to be a true church except wee be of their new covenant If therefore they cannot finde a church of that covenant till Brownes daies how can they bee a true church which hath never failed nor ever shall Let them duely consider this issue and God give them understanding in all things SECT 5. Of that name they would have Separatists and how unjustly assumed as a title of honour IT is most true that they are loath to acknowledge the name of Browne their father not sticking to brand him with the livery of a turne-coate if not Apostate and surely deserves to bee soundly
admits of no falshood But to cleare this more fully I shall by Gods assistance consider three things 1 What they say true of their owne members and ours 2 What they say false of the members of a true visible church 3 That their dreame of pollution is from their owne braines not from Christs ordinance This they say truely that the members of a true church are saints by calling Profession of saving truth as I have shewed makes such true members and all that so professe themselves though there be much chaffe among the wheate are such saints by calling He that professeth so much knowledge either actually or foederally as admits him to baptisme hath put on Christ And he that hath put on Christ though as an elect vessell as Paul or as one in Christ bearing no fruit and therefore justly to be cut off is certainely a saint by calling There are two sorts of saints by calling such as are sanctified by habituall infusions and actual expressements and such as are so by baptismal profession and many gifts of the spirit and so by consecration to God This may fall upon those that are justly rejected for their hypocrisie and wickednesse These two sorts have ever and ever shall to the end of the world make up the true members of a true visible church This secondly they say falsely that the members of a true visible church are onely such saints as are so regenerated as they have actual communion with Christ in all the acts of saving grace If they would sp●ake of the Catholick Church It is the number of all faithfull people which are united to Christ by the union of the body head spirit and faith of truth By the first all members are knit together with the head in one body and so receive grace from the head according to the measure of everie member By the second it hath but one head As the body is but one so the head is but one from whence it receiveth the grace of life By the third the whole Church is directed and governed by one spirit which is the spirit of sanctification And by the fourth the whole church receiveth the doctrine once given to the saints which it cleaves unto for ever that in this foundation and love of union it may receive from Christ all saving doctrine with the comfortable fruits of it If they would speake of this catholick church let them draw up the members to that sanctitie which the word and world will affoord Nay if they would speake of such members of the visible church who shall from Christ receive al spiritual blessings in heavenly things and be jointed into the body of Christ till they come to a perfect man unto the measure of the stature of the fulnesse of Christ let them speake of all holinesse too so far as our knowledge in part can reach unto in this kingdome of heaven upon earth If further they would speak of such members as are fittest to beare rule in the visible church surely though Iudas be in as well as Peter by Christs his call and yong Timothy can worke the worke of the Lord as Paul doth yet surely they that are best and of ablest gifts are fittest for highest places in the visible church Which because the Brownists perceive therefore they having set up to themselves a governement of all the members which they cannot make good they thinke not onely the holiest persons to bee the fittest but the onely members of their visible churches If lastly they would speake of those that are the greatest comforts and ornaments of a visible church then surely holy persons are For Davids eies runne over with water when members in the church as well as others kept not Gods law yea and it is a fearfull reproach and tending to corruption to them that favour it But when they speake of such members onely in the visible church who are so holy as they imagine to whom if others joyne themselves in spirituall communion they are unchurched this surely hath no ground but in their owne braine This is an undoubted rule that it is Gods will that a mixed company be invited to the wedding of Christ the feast of the gospell which makes up a visible church The wedding of Christ is either compleate in heaven or begunne in the church To that in heaven a mixed company is not invited but conditionally for no uncleane thing shall enter into the kingdome of heaven To this in the church a mixed company is invited and thorough the power of the sweet word of grace comes both to the word and sacraments as Symon Magus to baptisme and the drunken and factious Corinthians to the supper of the Lord. And that it is Gods will to invite a mixed company appeares by texts examples and reasons The text is cleare in Gods commission Goe ye into the high-wayes and as many as ye finde invite to the marriage and also in his servants execution they went and gathered together all as many as they found both good and bad All these were members of this feast till God came and made the separation and when he did come hee blamed not his servants for inviting and guests for being in communion with the unworthy but friend how camest thou in hither But say they what is this kingdome of heaven Is it not the world Doth not Christ himselfe so expound it in opening the parable of the tares The Field is the world It is true hee saith the field is the world but hee saith not the kingdome of heaven is the world Surely the whole world lies in wickednesse and is farre different from the kingdom of heaven in the church· Therfore doth not Christ say the kingdome of heaven is like to the world but it is like unto a man this man is the son of man who raiseth to himselfe a visible church heere This he raiseth not in Jury onely but now the separation wall is broken downe in the world Here by vertue of his Gospel he doth sow the children of the Kingdome according to that promise of old I will sowe her to mee in the earth But the Devill that envies Christs Kingdome not the world sowes the Tares which are the children of that wicked one These Tares grow up in the Kingdome of Heaven which is in the field of the world with the good seed and so long as the Divell is the Divell and envies it will be so And it is Christs Judgement concerning them Let them alone till the harvest least while ye pluck up the Tares yee pull up the Wheate Surely they were other than the weeds of the world out of the Church These might have been plucked up without dangering the Church They were blasted Corne upon one stalke which from the power of the Gospel were called into the Church but degenerated by the
supersowing of Satan into wickednesse in life and doctrine and so became as these Tares which grow up together with this good seed till the Harvest Thus the Text is cleare Next for examples looke to all the visible Churches that ever were and they stand for a mixed company In Adams house there was a Cain in Noahs a Cham and in Christs a Judas But say they these were cast out It is true some way or other but while they were in they were true members of the visible Church as those that could plead Wee have eate and drunke in thy presence and thou hast taught in our streets Have we not by thy Name prophecied and by thy Name cast out Devils Yet in the Harvest because they were onely outward not inward members they shall heare depart from mee I know you not to wit to save you and bring you to life As the Temple in Christs dayes was the house of God and yet by the mixture a denne of theeves so may the visible Church now be Gods Temple and the habitation of Devils In the Church of Corinth there were carnall people an incestuous beast denyers of the Resurrection and drunken and uncharitable partakers of the Sacrament of the Lords Body and Bloud yet a true visible church of God then yea and after when of all these wicked ones none was cast out but that one incestuous person So in the Church of Galatia there were false brethren that crept in revolters from the Faith of Christ who bewitched others with false doctrine against the foundation yet was it saluted and was a true Church of God If it seeme strange to men who would ingrosse all religion to themselves yet it doth not to Christ who would have done otherwise but did not for these causes First in respect of the Gospel it is the sweet message of salvation which cannot but allure all sorts Who doth not desire salvation so long as they like the termes and conditions they come heare and receive and though they had rather have it upon their owne conditions yet they desire salvation by Christ and so all sorts are mixt Besides the Gospel hath a double use to be a savour of life unto life out of Gods intention and to be a savour of death unto death out of mans abuse So long as God intendeth his grace that bringeth salvation and appeares unto all men and man abuseth it to sin that grace may abound there cannot but bee a mixt company Secondly in respect of God He is willing to manifest his divine goodnesse to all both Iewes and Gentiles in tendring the meanes of grace He would have a ground of his mercy to spare wicked hypocrites for the godlies sake and it is fit that he have arguments of justice within the Church that the godly may feare and not sinne So long as this goodnesse of God holds and the reason of Gods state and government there will be a mixed company Thirdly in respect of the godly They must be tryed and exercised in faith wisedome and patience Heresies must bee amongst thē that they that are approved might be knowne As the Canaanites were left among the Israelites to prove them so are wicked professors among those that are good yea the goodnesse of the godly by this meanes is made more perspicuous As it is a more grievous fault not to bee good among the good so it is an high and excellent praise to bee good among those that are wicked as Zachary Elizabeth Ioseph the blessed Virgin Symeon and Hannah in bad times and in a corrupt Church Fourthly in respect of Satan and ungodly men God will not banish Satans malice no not out of the Church here therefore as of old so still he permits him to sowe his tares And hee would have the wicked to have many cords to draw them to Christ to bee more justly confounded If the Word Sacraments Prayer and the Examples of good men in the communion of goodnesse prevaile not with them their sentence will be manifested to be more just when it shall be said binde them hand and foot cast them into utter darknesse where shall be wayling weeping and gnashing of teeth So long as God hath godly men in the Church to be tryed and to be glorified so long as Satan hath malice and the wicked are under arguments of just conviction there will bee a mixed company Lastly in respect of the Church and the use of the Supper whereunto it is invited Christ hath committed unto his Church the exercise of censures according to the severall carriages of members If there were to be none but good loosing would be enough but seeing there are to bee good and bad binding is necessary also And that this is provided for members is certaine For saith Paul what have I to doe to judge those that are without And for the use of Christs supper whereto wee are invited it is to give both the unions with Christ The union of profession and outward covenant when men professe themselves to be Christs and therefore come to the coven●nt in the word and seales of it in the sacraments from which yet alas men for their sinnes are daily cut off and the union by power and inward covenant when men in Christs wayes are Christs indeed and therefore come to the covenant and seales with an humble purpose to abide with him for ever So long as the church hath censures to exercise upon her unruly members and both these unions with Christ hold true there will be a mixture in the visible Church But say the Brownists it is true there may bee a mixture admitted to the hearing of the word but not as members of the Church yet And why so Surely if they heare and consent unto it though in hypocrisie God accounts them in covenant and then who shall deny them to be members Moses l●id before the face of Israel all the words which the Lord commanded him and the people answered all that the Lord commands we will heare and doe This many of them did in hypocrisie and therefore God complaines O that there were such an heart in them yet marke what the Lord said to Moses and Moses to the people To Moses God said write these words for after the tenour of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel and to the people Moses said thou hast avouched this day the Lord to be thy God and to walke in his wayes and the Lord hath avouched thee to be his peculiar people Say I pray which of our members doe not thus readily professe who will say that he will not heare God and do his will If they doe it in hypocrisie woe unto them if they doe it in profession they are in outward covenant as Gods people if they are in covenant who can denie them to bee
and continue in our fellowship with glorious comfort Put case we had no power to purge wicked livers must they presently say Depart from me I am holier than thou They should beare onely their owne burthens in sinne and one anothers burthen by compassion toleration charity and meeknesse By rash separation the correction of the wicked is not furthered but hindred for when they see themselves contemned they are put further from the Kingdome of Heaven and made sevenfold the child of Hell more to the hazzard of all But the truth is we have excellent power for both these workes Though not in all the members of every particular congregation as they meane for then no man could perish in the gaine-saying of Core whose mutiny was because he could not be equall to Aaron whom God appointed his superiour yet have wee it in every Diocesse where lawes are made not by one but many for the ruling of all under them And if persons were not sometimes in fault more then offices who yet seeme worse through the impetuous carriages of those that speake evill of governement and thinke it as easie to rule multitudes as a few in a Parlour wee might be easily as happy in our power as all the Churches under Heaven Then I pray tell me say they the reason of two things why ungodly men are not cast out and why your excommunication is thundred against good men meaning Solution 1 themselves The reason of the first is because good Canons are not observed Were Bishops never so good and their officers never so carefull under them yet if Church-wardens that should upon the oath of God present scandals thinke thus I shall be accounted a troubler of my neighbours our presentments come to nothing but to make the court rich to present the poore brings but charge to the parish meaning his owne purse no man can observe all the Canons or it is better to punish them before the civill magistrate out of prejudice to courts of spirituall judicature then is it impossible be the governement never so good that wicked men should bee cast out But if Church-wardens be as the house of Cloe to Paul to give true information and to open the eyes of the not-seeing judge they shall soone heere as of that incestuous person Cast them out But the truth is this question neede not be moved by them seeing they see more cast out in our Churches then in the Churches of Corinth whereof choise of wicked members we heare onely of excommunicating onely one beast To the second quaere I answere because it Solution 2 may fall out so in all the societies in the world that a good man may not be a good citizen nor a good member of a visible Church If then they are cast out it is not for goodnesse but because they are not good enough There is a double goodnesse a certaine goodnesse and a controversal goodnesse which is so judged of some good men but not so of others as good as they No good man is cast out by us for certaine goodnesse but for controversal which ends in stirres and tumults and then I would they were cut off that trouble you saith Paul Againe there is a double goodnesse in the thing it selfe and in the carriage of it as Iobs cause was good yet he carried it badly and therefore before God received him to his favour he was driven to abhorre himselfe and repent in dust and ashes No man by us is cast out for any good thing but for his undiscreet and bad carriage of it A man doth not onely love the meate but the dressing of it so doth God the manner as well as the matter and so doth the Church If therefore the carriage of goodnesse end in faction and turbulency the actours happly may bee justly cast out for a time to make them more humbly wise Yea but say they such good men as were persecuted for our consciences by the Bishops and their instruments with their curses and prisons when wicked men are spared It may fall out so justly in three cases when wicked men confesse their faults and they deny them when there is publicke cognisance by a cleare and open law against their faults and not against the other And thirdly when one disturbs the publike peace of the church more then the other For as it is well said in a Common-wealth some smaller offence hath heavier punishment as breaking open a poore Cottage where no goods are lost or person hurt then the stealing of some cattell which haply are more worth because the publike tranquility and peace of subjects is more hurt so also is it justly in the Church when publike peace is in hazard But is the sinne of separation so great that it should be punished more then blasphemy perjury whoring drunkennesse say they All these and other sinnes are detestable and by all lawes fall under great censures and finde not the spirit of meeknesse but the rod when the sleepy consciences of Officers will present them in due course of Law Yet the sinne of separation is very great It makes men throw durt in their mothers face and defile their fathers and brethren It stands and pleads it own justification in despight of government whereas the other are selfe condemned wretches It sowreth many quickly under shew of holinesse whereas the other are abhorred by a naturall conscience It begets divisions which breed thoughts of heart and proud contentions whereas none will contend in defence of the other yea it shakes the hearts of men in Religion making them to doubt whether any Religion be good For while they see these that are reputed good men to be so divided the adversary triumphs the scoffer mockes but the serious Christian that knowes he must have a Religion to bring him to heaven knowes not which way to take His body is in one Church his soule in another his opinion in neither but as the wind of affection and the tide of well pleasing persons carry him whereas the other move him not one foo● in Religion For Religion gives holy and good principles If they be not sucked into make men better it is not because Religion is naught but because those that professe it are too bad as they will know in the day of our Lord Iesus Weigh but this throughly and you will not blame Bishops for the punishment of the vaine sinne of separation But put case say they that they did well in all their former use of excommunication yet when they make it base and vile in excommunicating for triviall and unworthy causes as fees and small portions of money to be paid by them that are not able to pay in this they sinne against the Kingdome of Christ Indeed if it be so through Bishops faults now verily there is a fault I know no Bishop in our Church but would willingly redresse it If
the tenth part what therfore else can satisfie conscience that it erre not But they will say that ●thes are Jewish ceremonies which are abo●ished It is easie to say so but not so easie to prove For Jewish ceremonies are shadowes of things to come the body whereof is Christ Let them shew from Gods word that tythes are so accounted I am sure than God blames the faulty performance and resting in ceremonies but hee never blameth the neglect of ceremonies as of tythes when hee saith ye are cursed with a curse for yee have robbed me even this whole nation in not paying tythes Yea we never read that ever Christ said so much of any Jewish ceremony as of tythes these things ought ye not to leave undone If it be said that this maintenance cannot be proved out of the new testament I say that this wil trouble any man to prove for when Paul proves out of the law that the ministery of the new testament hath maintenance due doth he not say so hath the Lord ordained that hee that preacheth the Gospel should live of the Gospel and how is that As they of old lived at the altar by tythes so we now Againe doth not the Apostle say that tythes are due to the ministery of Christ that lives because they were due to Melchizedech to whom Abraham payed them as a Priest and tythe-taker and type of Christ who therefore should receive them but those that are in his stead to beseech you to be reconciled unto God The same reason that God gives why Levi should have Gods portion because God is his portion is it not true of ministers whom alone hee hath taken to bee ministers of the new testament It is true they are not Priests after the order of Melchizedech as Christ was yet the High-priest of our profession hath ordained us to live out of his portion which must bee his tythes due to him or else our consciences can never bee setled what it is Let them duely weigh this and when they can salve it up well as in the sight of God then may they heare of much more we hate Judaisme as much as they but we cannot beare that title except it be inflicted by Christ himselfe And thus by the helpe of God I have cleared their second exception upon which they separate because wee are not a true ministery SECT 15. The Brownists last opinion upon which they forsake our Church because wee have not a true worship WE are now come thorough Christs helpe unto their last exception against us which concernes the worship of God amongst us as if wee had not a true but an idolatrous worship of the true God This they doe so much detest and so do we too if they can prove it that they cannot with any good conscience have communion with us in it Doe not wee cleave to the onely true God by knowledge repentance faith feare love confidence joy thankfulnesse patience and adoration Doe wee not know God to bee the onely true God and therefore give him his true worship in spirit and truth according to his word Doe we not pray to him knowingly faithfully zealously penitently and obediently desiring to be made better Doe we not preach and heare his word carefully and reverently desiring to know and doe Doe wee not administer the sacraments of Christ and receive them with a desire and purpose to enter covenant with God to bee his people and keepe it unto our lives end Doe we not in all these lament our defects and others labouring to helpe what we can and what we cannot patiently suffer and lovingly mourne till Christ in the day of judgement fanne away the chaffe Doe we not publickely solemnize the Lords day that in the publicke use of Gods ordinances wee may learne to bee better and doe better till wee come to the full age in Christ Jesus How then can it be imagined that wee should not have a true worship Yes say the Brownists your worship is Ceremonial typical and stinted contrary to Christs will who would have you worship him in spirit and truth First they say it is a ceremonial worship will no worshippe please them but a slovenly one unbecomming the person of that God whom wee worship If our ceremonies were part of the worship as they of the Jewes or proper worship as many are reputed in the Church of Rome then they might talke aloud but when they are but outward accidents for the well and orderly carriage of the worship of God what hurt is in them Will it grieve any man to see Christians to worship their God in an humble comely and reverend way Nay would it not vexe any good soule to see them to doe otherwise They say that Christ was more faithfull in the house of God then Moses If therefore Moses prescribed Gods worship onely according to the patterne given much more doth Christ to which it is wickednesse to us to adde Indeed Christ is more faithfull then Moses for the law was given by Moses but grace and truth by Iesus Christ Moses gave a perfect shadow of our reconciliation under types but Christ gives a perfect body which hath nothing but truth in him and not a shadow of things as the things of Moses But what is this to decent ceremonies which are not types and shadowes of Christ and his but onely documents and signes of our humble and reverend respects to God As faithfull as Moses was yet even then had the Jewes ceremonies of order and comlinesse which were not disallowed by God or reprooved by his Prophets There are two sorts of ceremonies such as corrupt the worship of God and such as doe preserve by advancing the worship of God If they had made any types of Christ which God had not made they had corrupted the worship of God as the Brownists doe who when we tell them of the acts of the kings of Iudah about the worship of God they presently without the warrant of God tell us that they were types of Christ They may 〈◊〉 well say that the kings of other nations were types of Christ too because the Jewes were to have Kings according to other nations But when the devout Jewes did by their owne ceremonies labour to carry the worship of God in the most becomming way in this they did preserve the worship of God by advancing it Thus Salomons peace-offering was commanded but his advancement of that service was permitted to himself when he offered two twenty thousand oxen and an hundred and twenty thousand sheep Did he now goe against the faithfulnesse of Moses when he commanded it not Did hre not likewise honour God with the solemnity of seven dayes and seven daies without particular warrant He was commanded to pray but when hee added this ceremony of his owne fit for that time of jubilation to stand before the Altar
They are but seers and sufferers in it not doers of it If therefore wee can satisfie our selves in the doing of it that wee may preach IESUS CHRIST unto them in the Churches peace they have cause to thanke us and to thanke GOD for pacifying our consciences for their good and not cry out against us and runne away from us O but they cannot abide to see that idolatrous and abominable Crosse to passe over poore Childrens faces without either reason or religion There is reason for it because it depends upon the commands of superiours and reason wills that they bee obeyed in lawfull and possible things There is Religion for it because it is but a ceremony testifying our communion with the primitive CHVRCH which gloryed in and was persecuted for the Crosse of CHRIST and good Religion hath never beene against such things As to testifie Communion with believing Iewes even the Gentiles abstained from stranguled and bloud so to testifie our Communion with the believing Gentiles of old wee retayne that signe still which they used in the face of their Persecutours to signifie that they were ready to confesse that LORD who dyed for them on the Crosse What though the Church of ROME did afterwards fearefully abuse it yet it is certainely to us neither abominable not idolatrous Wee use it not as a signe from GOD to men as the Sacraments are nor as a signe from Men to GOD as bowing in Prayer● is but as a signe from Men to Men as that old kisse of love For as that did signifie Christian concord and agreement so this our hope if the Childe lives that it will fight under the banner of CHRIST therefore if the Childe bee ready to dye this signe by good order is omitted The Church of ROME useth it both for Consecration Benediction and Operation effective of I know not what feates but wee use it to none of these purposes If it bee sayd that the Child by that badge is dedicated to GODS service in our use of it as the CANON runnes yet the sence must not bee contrary to the commanded use Therefore as wee are sayd to wed with a ring which is nothing but a declaring of a marriage knot by giving and receiving of a ring and by joyning of hands and as the Priest was said to cleanse the leaper by the appointed meanes when hee did onely declare and pronounce him to bee cleane so the Crosse is no dedicating signe for that is done in Baptisme which receives it into the Congregation of CHRISTS flocke but onely declares to the hope of the CHURCH that it shall so live to CHRIST I see not but this may satisfie the soule of any good Christian knowing what I said before of ceremonies concerning the use of the Crosse in our good Church As for the Godfathers and Godmothers answering in the name of the childe though it seeme unreasonable to them yet is there excellent reasons for it They know there were questions and answeres in Philips baptizing of the Eunuch which hath ever beene continued in the Church because of the covenant in Baptisme And though infants cannot answer yet are there three reasons why their sureties should The first is ecclesiasticall the second civill and the third divine The Church reason is because it might put the whole congregation in minde of what was done by them when they were baptized they entered covenant with God As the Prophet spake to the dead altar to admonish living Ieroboam O Altar Altar heare the word of the Lord so doe wee to infants to admonish all that heare ●t The Civill reason is because by the 〈◊〉 of Guardianship the Guardian answeres for the Pupil under their charge and by this takes upon him an obligation of dut● his power and promise of faithfulnesse as hee can and what he doth stands in law as his pupils act Now because our sureties in Baptisme are such therefore they answere for children and what they doe professe to doe is accounted the infants act to which hee is bound as wee see in the civill covenant betwixt David and Ionathan and their seedes for ever The Divine reason is because in the very substance of Baptisme which is a signe and seale of the covenant of grace there is an interrogation on GODS part for repentance and beliefe of the GOSPEL and on our parts a repromission or answere of a good conscience which is opened and expounded by these questions and answeres If notwithstanding these reasons they seeme yet to bee unreasonable it is enough they know them and they must stand till they can from sound grounds overthrow them from the word of Christ Thus by GODS blessing I have finished the three grounds upon which our forsakers leave us and I hope I shall satisfie them in this that wee have a true CHURCH a true MINISTERY a true WORSHIP and that they for any thing I know have no just cause to say otherwise If yet they persevere and multiply scandal and schisme they must once againe remember the blessed wordes wee beganne with Not forsaking the assembling of our selves together as the manner of some is but exhorting one another and so much the more as yee see the day approaching SECT 17. The use to bee made of the constancy of some and forsakings of o●her consideration exhortation because the day is approaching IT is the course of too many to cleave to the assemblies but they are never the better They onely stand to outward profession but grow not in grace and the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Iesus Christ Hence is it that if never so many of them stand they cannot incourage them nor if never so many fall away they cannot wisely consider them and exhort unto faithfulnesse Therefore the Apostle would have us such knowing and wise Christians by the helpe of publicke assemblies that wee may wisely consider one another and weightily exhort one another that wee may keepe one another in sound knowledge and pious practise There are three things which wee shoud consider in our selves our aptnesse to fall the difficulty of our standing and our love to that way which is most dangerous Though God set us not justly in slipperie places yet are apt to slide away continually Wee carry about with us the foolish and unwise flesh which makes us unwarie and so we are soone caught in a deceitfull net There are questing snares of gaine and questioning snares or frivolous and idle things which end in noyse and tumult without profit and thus wee are apt to fall We as hardly keepe our standings we are children and doe not play the men We are a mixture of weakenesse and must have Gods good spirit lead us or downe wee goe Satan is principality and power by whom the winde rises and the rayne falls and the flouds come and then our house if it bee not strongly founded goes to wrack