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A18081 The rest of the second replie of Thomas Cartvurihgt [sic]: agaynst Master Doctor Vuhitgifts second ansvuer, touching the Church discipline Cartwright, Thomas, 1535-1603. 1577 (1577) STC 4715; ESTC S107571 215,200 286

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