many will say As long as they be neither whore nor thiefe nor spotted with such like grosse sinnes they trust in God they shall be saved Theol. They erre not knowing the Scriptures For many thousands are in great danger of losing their souls for ever which are free from such notorious and horrible vices nay many which in the world are counted good honest men good true dealers good neighbours and good towns-men Asun I pray you Sir give mee leave a little I have heard all your speech hitherto and I like reasonable well of it but now I can forbear no longer my conscience urgeth mee to speak For mee thinks you goe too far you goo beyond your learning in this that you condemn good neighbours and good towns-men You say many such men are in danger of losing their souls but I will never beleeve it while I live For if such men be not saved I cannot tell who shall Theol. But you must learn to know out of the Scriptures that all outward honesty and righteousnesse without the true knowledge and inward feeling of God availeth not to eternall life As our Saviour Christ saith Matth. 12. Except your righteousnesse exceed the righteousnesse of the Scribes and Pharisees ye cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven It is also written that when Paul preached at 〈◊〉 Acts 17.18 many honest men and women did beleeve that iâ— such no were outwardly honest or honest to the word only for they could not be truly and inwardly honest before they did beleeve Therefore you see that this outward honesty câ—vility without the inward regeneration of the spirit avaâ—seth not to eternall life and then consequently all your honest worldly men are in great danger of losing their souls for ever Asun What sound reason can you yeeld why such honest men should be condemned Theol. Because many such are utterly void of all true knowledge of God and his word Nay which is more many of them despise the word of God and hate all the zealous professors of it They esteem Preachers but as pratlers and Sermons as good tales they esteem a Preacher no more then a shoemaker they regard the Scriptures no more then their old shooes What hope is there then I pray you that such men should be saved Doth not the holy Ghost say Hoâ— 2.5 How shall we escape if we neglect so great salvation Asun You go too far you judge too hardly of them Theol. Not a whit For all experience sheweth that they mind dream dote of nothing else day and night but this world this world lands leases grounds and livings kine sheep and how to wax rich All their thoughts words and works are of these such like things And their actions do most manifestly declare that they are of the earth and speak of the earth and there is nothing in them but earth earth As for Sermons they care not how few they hear And for the scriptures they regard them not they read them not they esteem them not worth the while there is nothing more irksome unto them they had rather pill strawes or doe any thing then hear read or conferre of the Scriptures And as the Prophet saith 〈◊〉 8.1 â— The word of the Lord is as a reproach unto them they have no delight in it Phil. I marvell much that such men should live so honestly to the worldward Theol. No marvell at all for many bad men whose hearts are worm-eaten within yet for some outward and carnall respects doe abstaine from the grosse act of sin as some for credit some for shame some for fear of law some for fear of punishment but none for love of God for zeal of conscience or of obedience For it is a sure thing that the wicked may have that spirit which doth represse but not that which doth renew Phil. It seemeth then by your speeches that some which are not regenerate do in some things excell the children of God Theol. Most certain it is that some of them in outward gifts and the outward carriage of themselves doe goe beyond some of the elect Phil. Shew me I pray you in what gifts Theol. In learning discretion justice temperance prudence patience liberality assability kindnesse courtesie good nature c. Phil. Me thinks it should not be possible Theol. Yes truly for some of Gods dear children in whom no doubt the inward work is truely and soundly wrought yet are so troubled and incumbred with a crabbed crooked nature and so clogged with some master sin as some with anger some with pride some with covetousnesse some with lusts some one way and some another all which breaking out in them do so blemish them and their profession that they cannot so shine forth unto men as otherwise no doubt they would and this is their wound their griefe and their heart-smart and that which costeth them many a tear and many a prayer and yet can they not get the fu l victory over them but still they are less in them as a prick in the flesh to humble them Ph. Yet love should cover a multitude of such infirmities in Gods children Theol. It should do so indeed but there is great want of love even in the best and the worst sort espying these infirmities in the godly runne upon them with open mouth and take upon them to condemne them utterly and to judge their hearts saying They be hypocrites dissemblers and there is none worse then they Phil. But do you not think that there be some counterfeits even amongst the greatest professors Theol. Yes no doubt there be alwayes have been some very hypocrites in the Church but we most take heed of judging condemning all for some For it were very much to condemne Christ and his eleven disciples because of one Judas or the whole Primitive Church for one Ananias and Sapphira Phil. But I hope you are of this mind that some regenerate men even in outward gifts and their outward carriage are comparable with many others Theol. Questionlesse very many For they being guided by Gods spirit and upheld by his grace doe walk very uprightly and unblamably towards men Phil. Yet there resteth one scruple for it seemeth very strange unto me that men of so discreet carriage as you speak of and of so many good parts should not be saved It is great pity such men should be damned Theol. It seemeth so unto us indeed but God is only wise And you must note that as there be some infirmities in Gods children which hee correcteth with temporall chastisements and yet rewardeth their faith love and inward service and obedience with eternal life so there be some good things in the wicked and them that are without Christ which God rewardeth with temporall blessings and yet punisheth them eternally for their unbeliefe and hardnesse of heart Phil. Now you have reasonably well satisfied mee touching the doctrine of regeneration and the manifold errours
4. Antil 〈◊〉 18. But how answer you this God willâ— not the death of a sinner therefore he hath predestinated none to destruction Theol. God wils not the death of a sinner simply and absolutely as it is the destruction of his creature but as it is a meanes to declare his justice and to set forth his glory Antil God did fore-see and fore-know that the wicked would perish through their owne sin but yet he did not predestinate them unto it Theol. Gods prescience and fore-knowledge cannot be separated from his decree For whatsoever God hath fore-seene and fore-known in his eternall counsell he hath determined the same shall come to passe For as it appertaines to his wisdome to fore-know and fore-see all things so doth it appertain to his power to moderate and rule all things according to his will Antil What doe you call prescience in God Theol. Prescience in God is that whereby all things abide present before his eyes so that to his eternall knowledge nothing is past nothing to come but all things are alwaies present and are they so present that they are not as conceived imaginations formes and motions but all things are alwaies so present befoâ—e God that he doth behold them 〈◊〉 their 〈◊〉 and perfection Antil How can God justly determine of mens destruction before they have sinned Theol. This objection hath been answered in part before For I told you that God condemneth none but for sin either originall onely or else both originall and actuall For howsoever he doth in himselfe before all time determine the reprobation of many yet he proceeds to no excecution till there be found in us both just desertâ— and apparent cause Therefore they deale unsoundly and foolishly which confound the decree of reprobation with damnation it selfe sith sinne is the cause of the one and only the will of God of the other Phil. Well Sir sith we are so far proceeded in this question by the occasion of this mans objections and cavile I pray you now as you have spoken much of reprobation and the causes thereof so let us heare somewhat of election and the causes thereof and shew us out of the Scriptures that God hath before all worlds chosen some to eternall life Theol. Touching the decree of election there are almost none that make any doubt thereof therefore small proofe shall serve for this point Onely I will construct it by one or two testimonies out of holy Scripture First the Apostle saith Blessed be God Ephes 1.3 even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ who hath blessed us with all spirituall blessings in heavenly things in Christ as hee hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world that wee should be holy and without blame before him in love You see the words are very plaine and pregnant for this purpose Another confirmation is taken out of the eight chapter to the Romans in these words Those whom hee knew before did he also predestinate to be like to be like to the image of his owne Sonne that hee might be the first-borne of many brethren Phil. Which be the causes of election Theol. The causes of election are to be found onely in God himselfe For his eternall election dependeth neither upon man neither yet upon any thing that is in man but is purposed in himselfe and established in Christ in whom we are elected This is fully proved in these words Ephes 1.5 6. Who hath predestinated us to be adopted through Jesus Christ in himselfe according to the good pleasure of his will to the praise of his glory wherewith he hath made us freely accepted in his beloved Where we see the Apostle telleth us that his free grace and the good pleasure of his will are the first motives or moving causes of our election Phil. But the Papists fetch the first motive of election out of mans merits and fore-seen workes For say they God did fore-see who would repent beleeve and doe well and therefore he made choice of them Theol. But they are greatly deceived For I say againe and againe that there is nothing in us which did ever move God to set his love upon us and to chuse us unto life but he ever found the originall cause in himselfe as it is written Rom. 9. Hee will have mercy upon whom hee will have mercy and whom hee will hee hardneth And againe It is neither in him that willeth nor in him that runneth but in God that sheweth mercy Deut. 7.7 The Lord himselfe also testifieth that hee did chuse his people not for any respect in them but onely because he loved them and bare a speciall favour unto them 〈◊〉 then it is a certaine truth that Gods eternall predestination excludeth all merits of man and all power of his will thereby to attaine unto eternall life and that his free mercy and undeserved favour is both the beginning the midst and the end of our salvation that is to say All is of him and nothing of our selves Phil. Whether then doth faith depend upon election or election upon faith That is whether did God chuse us because we doe beleeve or whether doe we beleeve because we are chosen Theol. Out of all doubt both faith and all fruits of faith do depend upon election For therefore we beleeve because we are elected and not therefore elected because wee beleeve As it is written Act. 13.41 So many as were ordained to everlasting life beleeved Antil If men be predestinate before they be borne to what purpose serve all precepts admonitions lawes c. It sorceth not how wee live For neither our godly or ungodly life can alter the purpose of God Theol. This is a very wicked and carnall objection and sheweth a vile and dissolute mind in them that use it But I would wish such men to consider the end of election which is that we should lead a godly 〈◊〉 As it is plainly set down in the first chapter to the Ephesians ver 3. where the Apostle saith God hath chosen us before the foundation of the world But to what end that wee should live as wee list No no saith hee But that wee should be holy and unblameable before him Againe he saith Rom. 9.16 Wee are predestinate to be made like the image of his Sonne that is to be holy and righteous For most certaine it is that wee can judge nothing of predestination but by the consequents that is by our calling justification and sanctification For when once we feele the work of grace within us that is that wee are washed by the new birth and renued by the holy Ghost finding in our selves an unfeigned hatred of sinne and love of righteousnesse then are we sure and out of all doubt that we are predestinated to life And it is even as much is if God had personally appeared unto us and whispered us in the eare and told us that our names are taken and written in the
the true Sanctuary but is entred into the very Heaven Heb. 9. to appeare now in the sight of God for you The Apostle saith 2 Cor. 5.21 He hath made him to be sinne for you that knew no sinne that you might be made the righteousnesse of GOD in him Gal 3.13 Christ was made a curse for you that he might redeeme you from the curse of the Law Oh therefore how happy art thou that hast such a Mediatour and high Priest Rest therefore wholly upon him and upon that perfect eternall and propitiatory Sacrifice which he hath once offered Apply Christ apply his merits apply the promises to your selfe and to your owne conscience so shall they doe you good and bring great comfort to your soule For put case you had a most excellent and soveraigne salve which would cure any wound if it were laid to yet if you should locke it up in your chest and never apply it to your wound what good could it doe you Even so the righteousnesse and merits of Christ are a spirituall salve which will cure any wound of the soule but if wee doe not apply them to our soules by faith they can doe us no good You must therefore apply Christ and all the promises of the Gospel to your selfe by faith and stand fully perswaded that whatsoever hee hath done upon the Crosse hee hath done for you particularly For what is justifying faith but a full perswasion of Gods particular love to us in Christ The generall and confused knowledge of Christ and his Gospel availes not to eternall life Labour therefore to have the true use of all these great and precious promises and sticke fast to Christ for through him onely wee have remission of sins and eternall life Acts 10.45 To him all the Prophets give witnesse saith Saint Peter that through his Name all that beleeve shall receive remission of their sins Where the Apostle tells us that if a great Iury of Prophets were pannelled to testifie of the way and meanes to eternall life they would all with one consent bring in a verdict that remission of sins and eternall life are onely in Christ Let us heare the Fore-man speake and one or two of the rest for in the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word stand The Prophet Esay saith Esay 54.5 He was wounded for our transgressions he was broken for our iniquities the chastisement of our peace was upon him and with his stripes wee are healed This great Prophet we see plainly affirmes that Christ suffered for our sins and by his suffering we are saved The Prophet Jeremy testifies the same thing Jer. 23 5. saying Behold the day is come saith the Lord that I will raise to David a righteous branch and a King shall reigne and prosper and shall execute judgement and justice in the earth In his dayes Judah shall be saved and Israel shall dwell safely and this is the name whereby they shall call him The Lord our righteousnesse This Prophet jumps with the other For he saith that Christ is the righteous branch and that he is our righteousnesse which is all one as if hee had said our sinnes are pardoned onely through him and through him we are made righteous Moreover hee affirmes that Juda and Israel that is the Church shall be saved by him The Prophet Zachary that I may speake it with reverence telleth the same tale word for word He avoucheth the same thing with the other two Prophets for hee saith In that day a fountaine shall be opened to the house of David Zach. 13.1 and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sinne and for uncleannesse The meaning of the Prophet is that in the dayes of Christs Kingdome the fountaine of Gods mercy in Christ should be opened and let-out to wash away the sinnes and uncleannesse of the Church So then we see that these three great witnesses doe all agree in this that through Christ onely we are washed from our sinnes and through him onely wee are made righteous Seeing then that eternall life is onely in the Sonne therefore he that hath the Sonne hath life Be of good courage therefore O Asunetus for no doubt you have the Sonne and therefore eternall life Feare not your sinnes for they cannot hurt you for as all the righteousnesse of Abraham Isaac and Jacob and all the most righteous men that ever lived on the face of the earth if it were yours could doe you no good without Christ so all the sinne in the world can doe you no hurt being in Christ Rom. 8.1 For there is no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus Plucke up a good heart therefore be no more heavie and sad for if you be found in Christ clothed with his perfect righteousnesse being made yours through faith what can the Divell say to you what can the Law doe They may well hisse at you but they cannot sting you they may grin at you but they cannot hurt you For who shal lay any thing to the charge of Gods Elect It is God that justifies Rom. â— 33 who shall condemne It is Christ which is dead or rather which is risen againe who also sitteth at the right hand of God and makes request for us Phil. 4.4 Rejoyce in the Lord therefore againe I say Rejoice for greater is hee that is in you then hee that is in the world Our Lord Iesus is stronger then all None can pluck you out of his hands hee is a strong Mediator hee hath conquered all our spirituall enemies hee hath overcome hell death and damnation hee hath led captivity captive Col. 1.15 hee hath spoyled principalities and powers and hath made an open shew of them and triumphed over them on his crosse Hee hath most triumphantly said O death Hos 13.14 I will be thy death O grave I will be thy destruction O death where is thy sting 1 Cor. 15.55 O hell where is thy victory Seeing then you have such a Mediator and high Priest as hath conquered the hellish army and subdued all infernall power what need you to doubt what need you to feare any more Moreover you are to understand and to be perswaded that Gods mercy is exceeding great towards penitent sinners and all such as mourne for their transgressions according as hee saith At what time soever a sinner doth repent him of his sinnes from the bottome of his heart hee will put them all out of his remembrance The Prophet David doth most lively and fully describe unto us the mercifull nature of God in the 103. Psalme where hee saith The Lord is full of compassion and mercy slow to anger and of great kindnesse hee will not alwaies chide neither keepeth his anger for ever hee hath not dealt with us after our sinnes nor rewarded us according to our iniquities For as high as the heaven is above the earth so great is his mercy towards those that feare him
that they may draw it out to punish the wicked and to defend the godly and that they may with all good care and conscience discharge the duties of their places Increase the number of faithfull and zealous Ministers in this Church Send thy Gospel to those places where it is not and blesse it where it is Remember them in thy mercy O Lord that are under any crosse or affliction whatsoever be comfortable unto them heale up their wounds bind up their sores put all their teares into 〈◊〉 bottle and make their bed in all their sorrowes and put such a good end to all their troubles that they may redound to thy glory and the furtherance of their owne salvation In the meane time give them patience and constancie to beare whatsoever it shall please thy mercifull hand to lay upon them Last of all in a word wee pray theâ— blesse the Magistracie Ministry and Commonalty Blesse all the people doe good to all that are true and upright in their hearts And so deare Father we do commit and command our selves our soules and bodies into thy hands for this day and the rest of our life praying thee to take care and charge of us Keep us from all evill watch over us for our good let thine Angels encamp about us let thy holy hand be over us and keep us in all our waies that we may live to thy praise and glory here on earth keeping faith and a good conscience in all our actions that after this life wee may be crowned of thee for ever in thy Kingdome Grant these things good Father to us here present and to all thine absent praying thee in speciall favour to remember an our friends and kinsfolkes in the flesh all our good neighbours and well-willers and all those for whom wee are bound to pray by nature by deserts or any duty whatsoever for Jesus Christs sake our onely Mediatour to whom with thee and the holy Ghost be given all praise and glory both now and for evermore Amen An Evening Prayer to be used in private Families O Eternall God and our most loving and deare Father wee thy unworthy children do here fall down at the foot of thy great Majesty acknowledging from our hearts that we are altogether unworthy to come neere thee or to look towards thee because thou art a God of infinite glory and wee are most vile abominable sinners such as were conceived and borne in sin and corruption and such as have inherited our Fathers corruptions and also have actually transgressed all thy holy Statutes and Lawes both in thoughts words and deeds before wee knew thee and since secretly and openly with our selves and with others our particular sins are moe then can be numbred for who knoweth how often hee offendeth but this wee must needs confesse against our selves that our hearts are full of pride covetousnesse and the love of this world full of wrath anger and impatience full of lying dissembling and deceiving full of vanity hardnesse and profanenesse full of infidelity distrust and selfe-love full of lust uncleannesse and all abominable desires yea our hearts are the very sinkes of sinne and dunghils of all filthinesse And besides all this we doe omit the good things we should doe for there are in us great wants of faith of love of zeale of patience of contentment and of every good grace so as thou hast just cause to proceed to sentence of judgment against us as most damnable transgressours of all thy holy commandements yea such as are sunk in our rebellions and have many times and often committed high treason against thy Majestie and therefore thou maist justly cast us all downe into Hell fire there to be tormented with Sathan and his Angels for ever And wee have nothing to except against thy Majesty for so doing sith therin thou shouldest deale with us but according to equity and our just deserts Wherefore deare Father wee doe appeale from thy justice to thy mercy most humbly intreating thee to have mercy upon us and freely to forgive us all our sinnes past whatsoever both new and old secret and open knowne and unknowne and that for Jesus Christs sake our onely Mediatour And wee pray thee touch our hearts with true griefe and unfeigned repentance for them that they may be a matter of continuall sorrow and heart-smart unto us so as nothing may grieve us more then this that wee have offended thee beâ—ng our speciall friend and Father Give us therefore deare Father every day more and more sight and feeling of our sinnes with true humiliation under the same Give us also that true and lively faith whereby we may lay sure hold on thy Son Christ and all his merits applying the same to our owne soules so as we may stand fully perswaded that whatsoever hee hath done upon the Crosse hee hath done for us particularly as well as for others Give us faith good Father constantly to beleeve all the sweet promises of the Gospel touching remission of sin and eternall life made in thy Sonne Christ O Lord increase our faith that wee may altogether rest upon thy promises which are all Yea and Amen Yea that wee may settle our selves and all that wee have wholly upon them both our soules bodies goods names wives children and our whole estate knowing that all things depend upon thy promises power and providence and that thy Word doth support and beare up the whole order of nature Moreover we entreat thee O Lord to strengthen us from above to walke in every good way and to bring forth the fruits of true faith in all our particular actions studying to please thee in all things and to be fruitfull in good workes that wee may shew forth unto all men by our good conversation whose children we are and that we may adorne and beautifie our most holy profession by walking in a Christian course and in all the sound fruits and practice of godlinesse and true religion To this end we pray thee sanctifie our hearts by thy Spirit yet more and more sanctifie our soules and bodies and all our corrupt naturall faculties as reason understanding will and affections so as they may be fitted for thy worship and service taking a delight and pleasure therein Stirre us up to use prayer watchfulnesse reading meditation in thy Law and all other good meanes whereby wee may profit in grace and goodnesse from day to day Blesse us in the use of the meanes that we may daily dye to sinne and live to righteousnesse draw us yet neerer unto thee helpe us against our manifold wants Amend our great imperfections renew us inwardly more and more repaire the ruines of our hearts aide us against the remnants of sin Enlarge our hearts to run the way of thy Commandements direct all our steps in thy Word let none iniquity have dominion over us Assist us against our speciall infirmities and master-sins that we may get the victory over them all to thy
that you think none can be saved but those onely which are born again Theol. I think so indeed Phil. I pray you tell mee what the same regeneration and new birth is whereof you speak Theol. It is a renewing and repairing of the corrupted and decaied estate of our souls as it is written Be yee changed by the renewing of your mind Rom. 12. And againe Be renewed in the spirit of your mind Eph. 4.23 Phil. Explain this more fully Theol. Even as the wild olive retaineth his old nature till it be graffed into the sweet olive but afterward is partaker of a new nature so wee till wee be graffed into Christ retain our old nature but afterward are turned into a new creature as it is written If any man be in Christ he is a new creature 2 Cor. 5.17 Phil. I understand not what you say Theol. You must know this that as there is a naturall birth of the whole man so there is also a spirituall birth of the whole man Phil. How is that Theol. When as the naturall faculties of the soule as reason understanding will and affections and the members of the body also are so sanctified purged and rectified by grace that we understand will and desire that which is good Phil. Cannot a man will and desire that which is good before hee be born again Theol. No more then a dead man can desire the good things of this life For mans will is not tree to consent unto good till it be enlarged by grace and an unregenerate man doth sin necessarily though not by constraint For mans will is free from constraint for it sinneth of it self but not from thraldome unto sin Phil. You speak as if a man could do no other thing but sin till the new work be wrought in him Theol. That is mine opinion indeed For a man and his flesh are all one till hee be regenerate they agree together like man and wife they join together in all evill they live and die together for when the flesh perisheth the man perisheth Phil. Is not this regeneration a changing or rather destroying of humane nature Theol. Nothing lesse it is neither an abolishing nor changing of the substance of body or soul or any of the faculties thereof but only a rectifying and repairing of them by removing the corruption Phil. Is then our naturall corruption so purged and quite removed by the power of grace as that it remaineth not at all in us but that wee are wholly freed of it Theol. Not so For the reliques and remnants of our old nature which the Scripture calleth the old man do hang about us and dwell in us even untill our dying day as it is plainly proved in the ten last verses of the seventh to the Romans Phil. Then you affirme that this new man or new work of grace and regeneration is unperfect in this life Theol. Yea for the new creature or new work of grace can never be fully fashioned in this life but is alwayes in fashioning And as our faith knowledge in this life are unperfect so is our regeneration and sanctification Phil. You said before that the regeneration or new birth is of the whole man which speech seemeth to imply that the new wo k of grace is entire and perfect Theol. You mistake the matter For although the new birth is universall and of the whole man yet it is not entire perfect pure and without mixture or corruption for it is written The flesh lusteth against the spirit and the spirit against the flesh The Apostle also prayeth that the Thessalonians may be sanctified throughout in spirit soule and body Phil. This seemeth very obscure I pray you make it more plain Theol. You must note this that the new work and the old flesh and spirit grace and corruption are so intermingledly joyned together in all the faculties of the soul and body as that the one doth ever fight against the other Phil. But tell me I pray you how you understand this intermingling of grace and corruption in the soul Do you mean that grace is placed in one part of the soul and corruption in another so as they be sundred in place Theol. No that is not my meaning but this that they be joyned mingled together as I said in and throughout the whole man For the mind or understanding part is not one part flesh and another part spirit but the whole mind is flesh and the whole mind is spirit partly one and partly another The same is to be said of wil and affections Ph. I pray you express it more plainly Theol. Even as the air in the dawning of the day is not wholly light or wholly dark as at mid-night or at noon-day neither is it in one part light and in another part dark but the whole aire is partly light and partly dark thorowout and as in a vessell of luke-warm water the water it self is not only hot nor only cold but heat and cold are mixed together in every part of the water so is the flesh and the spirit mingled together in the soule of man And this is the cause why these two contrary qualities fight together Phil. Out of doubt this doctrine of regeneration is a very great mystery Theol. Yes certainly it is a secret of secrets which the wise of this world cannot comprehend Phil. Some think that courtesie kindnesse good nurture good nature and good education are regeneration and that courteous and good natured men must needs be saved Theol. They are generally deceived for these things doe not necessarily accompany salvation but are to be found in such as are altogether profane and irreligious yet wee are to love such good outward qualities and the men in whom we find them Phil. What say you then to learning wit and policie are not these things of the essence of religion and prove a regeneration Theol. No no for they be externall gifts which may be in the most wicked men as in Papists heathen Poets and Philosophers yet we are greatly to reverence learned and wise men although the new and inward work be not as yet wrought for that is onely of God that is from above Phil. The common people doe attribute much to learning and policie for they will say Such a man is learned and wise and knoweth the Scripture as well as any of them and yet hee doth not thus and thus Theol. It is one thing to know the history and letter of the Scriptures and another thing to beleeve and feel the power therof in the heart which is only from the sanctifying spirit which none of the wise of this world can have Phil. It is a common opinion that if a man hold the truth in judgment be no Papist or Heretick but leadeth an honest civill life then hee must of necessity be saved Theol. That followeth not for many come so far which yet notwithstanding have not the inward touch Phil. That seemeth strange For
and deceits that are in it and of it I pray you let us now proceed and first of all tell mee by what means the new birth is wrought Theol By the preaching of the word as the outward meanes 1 Pet. 1 2.3 John 1â— 3 Acts 10.44 Ephes 4.3 and the secret worke of the spirit as the inward means Phil. Many hear the word preached and are nothing the better but rather the worse what I pray you is the cause of that Theol. Mens own incredulity and hardnesse of heart because God in his wrath leaveth them to themselves and depriveth them of his spirit without the which all preaching is in vain For except the spirit doe follow the word into our hearts Act. 16.14 wee can finde no joy taste nor comfort therein Phil. Cannot a man attain unto regeneration and the new birth without the word and the spirit Theol. No verily For they are the instruments and means whereby God doth work it Antil Why may not a man have as good a faith to God-ward that heareth no Sermons as hee that heareth all the Sermons in the world Theol. Why may not he which eateth no meat be as fat and as well liking as hee that eateth all the meat in the world For is not the preaching of the word the food of our souls Antil I like not so much hearing of Sermons and reading of the Scriptures except men could keep them better Theol. Faithfull and honest hearers do therefore hear that they may be more able to observe and do For a man cannot do the will of God before he know it and hee cannot know it without hearing and reading Antil I marvell what good men doe get by gadding to Sermons and poring so much in the Scripture or what are they better then others There are none more full of envie and malice then they They will doe their neighbour a shrewd turn as soon as any body and therefore in mine opinion they be but a company of hypocrites and precise fools Theol. You judge uncharitably Full little doe you know what they feel or what good Gods people get by hearing of the word For the work of the spirit in the hearts of the elect is very secret and altogether hid from the world John â— 8 as it is written The wind bloweth where it listeth and thou hearest the sound thereof but canst not tell whither it goeth or whence it cometh so is every man that is born of the spirit And againe The things of God knoweth no man but the spirit of God Amil. Tush tush what needs all this adoâ— If a man say his Lords prayer his ten Commandements and his Beleefe keep them and say no body harme not doe no body harm and doe as hee would be done to have a good faith to God-ward and be a man of Gods beliefe no doubt hee shall be saved without all this running to Sermons and pratling of the Scripture Theol. Now you powr it out indeed you thinke you have spoken wise y. But alas you have bewrayed your great ignorance For you imagine a man may bee saved without the word which is a grosse errour Antil It is no matter say you what you will and all the Preachers in the world besides as long as I serve God and say my prayers duly and truely morning and evening and have a good faith in God and put my whole trust in him and doe my true intent and have a good mind to God-ward and a good meaning although I am not learned yet I hope it will serve the turn for my soules health For that God which made mee must save me It is not you that can save me for all your learning and all your Scriptures Theol. You may very fitly be compared to a sick man who having his brain distempered with heat raveth and speaketh idly he cannot tell what For the holy Ghost saith Pâ—o. 18.9 Hee that turneth away his ear from hearing the law even his prayer shall be abominable And again Prov. 13.15 He that destroyeth the word shall be destroyed So long therefore as you despise Gods word and turn away your ear from hearing his Gospel preached all your prayers your fantasticall serving of God your good meanings and your good intents are to no purpose but most odious and loathsome in the sight of God as it is written My soule hateth your new moons Esa 1.14 and your appointed feasts they are a burthen unto mee I am weary to beare them When you stretch out your hands I will hide mine eye from you and though you make many prayers I will not hear For your hands are full of bloud And again the Lord saith by the same Prophet He that killeth a bullock Esa 66.3 is as if he slâ—w a man hee that sacrificeth a sheep as if hee cut off a dogs neck he that offereth an oblation as if he offered swines bloud hee that remembreth incense as if hee blessed an idol Where you see the Lord telleth you his mind touching thâ—se matters to wit that all your prayers services good meanings c. are abominable unto him so long as you walk in ignorance profanenesse disobedience and contempt of the Gospel For hee saith in the words immediately going before To him will I look even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit and trembleth at my words Asun I grant indeed for them that are idle and have little to do it is not amisse now and then to hear a Sermon and read the Scriptures but wee have no leasure we must follow our businesse we cannot live by the Scriptures they are not for plain folk they are too high for us wee will not meddle with them They belong to Preachers and Ministers Theol Jâ—â—â— 10. Christ saith My sheep heare my voice and I give unto them eternall life If therefore you refuse to heare the voice of Christ you are none of his sheep neither can you have eternall life And in another place our Lord Iesus saith John 8.47 He that is of God heareth Gods word Ye therefore hear it not because ye are not of God Saint Paul writing to all sorts of men both rich and poore high and low men and women Colos 3.1 young and old exhorteth that the word of Christ may dwell plenteously in them all in all wisdom You see therefore that the Apostle would have all sorts of people that have souls to save to bee well acquainted with the Scriptures Therefore you may as well say you will not meddle with God with Christ nor with everlasting life as to say you will not meddle with the Scriptures Asun Well I cannot read and therefore I cannot tell what Christ or what Saint Paul may say but this I am sure of that God is a good man worshipped might he be hee is mercifull and that we must be saved by our good prayers and good serving of God Theol. You speak foolishly and
which hee shall rain upon him in stead of his meat Thus then it is cleere that mans life and good estate dependeth not upon the abundance of outward things but onely upon the blessing and providence of God Prov. 10.12 For his blessing onely maketh rich and it doth bring no sorrow with it Psal 37.16 For better is a little to the just then great abundance to many of the wicked Prov. 25.26 Better is a little with the fear of the Lord then great treasure and trouble therewith Better is a little with righteousnesse Prov. 16.8 then great revenues without equity Thus then I conclude this point Man liveth not by bread but by a blessing on bread not by outward means but by a blessing upon meanes For how can bread being a dead thing and having no life in it selfe give life to others Phil. I do not well understand the meaning of these words By every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God Theol. Thereby is meant the decree ordinance and providence of God which upholdeth all things even the whole order of nature For the Scripture saith Hee spake Psal 33.9 and it was done hee commanded and they were created In which words wee plainly see that God doth but speake and it is done hee doth command and all creatures are preserved For God doth all things 〈◊〉 a word Hee created all with his word hee preserveth all with his word hee speaketh and it is done His words are words of power and authority Whatsoever he saith whatsoever hee calleth for it must be done presently without any delay there is no withstanding of him Hee calleth for famine and behold famine Hee calleth for plenty and behold plenty Hee calleth for pestilence and behold pestilence He calleth for the sword and behold the sword All Angels all men all beasts all fishes all fowls all creatures whatsoever must obey him and be at his beck He is the greatest commander his word commandeth heaven and earth and the sea All creatures must bee obedient to his will and subject to his ordinance This is the cause why all things both in heaven earth and the sea doe keep their immutable and unvariable courses times and seasons even because hee hath charged them so to doe And they must of necessity alwayes at all times and for ever obey for the creatures must obey the Creator This â—ct of Parliament was made the first week of the world and never since was or can be repealed Phil. But to call you back againe to the point wee had in hand Resolve mee I pray you of this whether many of the deare children of God doe not in this life sometimes want outward things and are brought into great distresse Theol. 1 Kiâ—g 17. Yes certainely For Elijah did want 2 Câ—r â— 8 2 Cor. 11.25 and was in distresse Paul did want and was in many distresses The holy Christians mentioned in the Hebrewes did want Heb. 1â— 3â— and were in marvellous distresses Many of Gods dear ones have in all ages wanted and at this day also doe want and are greatly distressed But this is a most infallible truth that howsoever Gods children may want and be low brought yet they are never utterly forsaken but are holpen even in greatest extreâ—iâ—ie yea when all things are desperate and brought even to the last cast To this point most notably speaketh the Apostle saying 1 Cor 4.8 We are affl cted on every side but yet wee despaire not wee are persecuted but not forsaken cast downe but wee perish not The Prophet Jeremie also saith Lâ—â— 3. The Lord will not forsake for ever but though hee send affliction yet will hee have compassion according to the multitude of his mercies For hee doth not punish willingly or from his heart nor afflict the children of men The kingly Prophet saith Psal 94.4 Surely the Lord will not fail his people neither will hee forsake his inheritance The Lord himself saith For a moment in mine anger I hid my face from thee Iâ—a â—5 8 but with everlasting mercy have I had compassion on thee So then wee may fully assure our selves and even write of it as a most undoubted and sealed truth that Gods children shall never be utterly forsaken in their troubles Phil. Sith the care and providence of God is so great for his children as you have largely declared what then I pray you is the cause why God suffereth his to bee brought into so many troubles and necessities Theol. Their profit and benefit is the cause and not their hurt For he loveth them when hee smiteth them Hee favoureth them when he seemeth to be most against them Hee aimeth at their good when hee seemeth to bee most angry with them He woundeth them that hee may heale them Hee presseth them that hee may ease them Hee maketh them cry that afterward they may laugh Hee alwaies meaneth well unto them hee never meaneth hurt Hee is most constant in his love towards them If he bring them into necessities it is but for the triall of their faith love patience and diligence in prayer If he cast them into the fire it is not to consume them but to purge and refine them If he bring them into great dangers it is but to make them call upon him more earnestly for help and deliverance He presseth us that wee might cry wee cry that wee may be heard wee are heard that we might be delivered So that here is no hurt done we are worse scared than hurt Even as a mother when her childe is way-ward threateneth to throw it to the Wolfe or scareth it with some poker or bul-begger to make it cling more unto her and be quiet So the Lord oftentimes sheweth us the terrible faces of troubles and dangers to make us cleave and cling faster unto him and also to teach us to esteeme better of his gifts when wee enjoy them and to bee more thankfull for them as health wealth peace liberty safety c. So then still we see here is nothing meant on Gods part but good as it is written Rom. 5. All things worke together for good to them that love God For Heb. 12 10. Heb. 12.14 even the afflictions of Gods children are so sanctified unto them by the Spirit 1 Thes 1.6 that thereby they are made partakers of the holinesse of God Gal. 6.14 Phil 3.10 Thereby they enjoy the quiet fruit of righteousnesse Thereby they attaine unto a greater measure of joy in the holy Ghost 2 Cor. 11.32 Thereby the world is crucified to them and they to the world Rom. 5.3 4. Thereby they are made conformable to the death of Christ Thereby they are kept from the condemnation of the world Thereby they learne experience patience hope c. So that all things considered Gods children are no losers by their afflictions but gainers It is better for them to have them than to
peace and publike good Theol. These few then briefly I take to be the things which belong to our peace Ten things concerning our peace Let Solomon execute Joab and Shimei Let Achab and Eliah stay the Priests and Prophets of Baal Let Aaron and Eleazer minister before the Lord faithfully Let Jonas be cast out of the ship Let Moses stood fast in the gap and not let downe his hand Let Josuah succeed him Let Cornelius feare God with all his houshold Let Tabitha be full of good works and almesdeeds Let Deborah judge long in Israel prosper and be victorious Let us pray that the light of Israel may not be quenched And this I take to be the summe of all that belongs to our peace Phil. The summe of all our conference hitherto as I remember may be reduced unto these few heads First mans naturall corruption hath beene laid open Secondly the horrible fruits thereof Thirdly their evill effects and workings both against our soules and bodies goods name and the whole Land Lastly the remedies of all Now therefore I would grow to some conclusion of that which you touched by the way and made some mention of namely the signes of salvation and damnation and declare unto us plainely whether the state of a mans soule before God may not by certaine signes and tokens be certainly discerned in this life Theol. Besides those which beforâ— have beene mentioned wee may odde these nine following Nine signes of a sound soule Reverence of Gods Name Keeping of his Sabbaths Truth Sobriety Industry Compassion Humility Chastity Contentation Phil. These indeed I grant are very good signes but yet all of them are not certaine for some of them may be in the reprobates Theol. What say you then to Saint Peters signes set downe in the first chapter of his second Epistle which are these eight Saint Peters eight signes of salvation 2 Pet. 1.8 Faith Vertue Knowledge Temperance Patience Godlinesse Brotherly kindnesse Love Saint Peter saith If these be in us and abound they will make us neither idle nor unfruitfull in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Which is as much as if hee had said They will make us sound and sincore Professors of the Gospel Phil. All these I grant are exceeding good signes and evidences of a mans salvation but yet some of them may deceive and a hole may be picked in some of these Evidences I would therefore heare of some such demonstrative and infallible Evidences as no Lawyer can finde fault with For I hold that good Divines can as perfectly judge of the assurances and evidences of mans salvation as the best Lawyer can judge of the assurances and evidences whereby men hold their lands and livings Theol. You have spoken truly in that And would to God all the Lords people would bring forth the Evidences of their salvation that wee might discerne of them Phil. Set down then which be the most certaine and infallible Evidences of a mans salvation against which no exception can be taken Theol. I judge these to be most sound and infallible Assured faith in the promises Seven infallible signes of salvation Act. 16.31 Pro. 1.20 Job 1.41 Rom. 8.14 Job 4. â— 1 Thes 4.5 Rom. 5.1 Col. 1. â—3 Mat. 24.13 Sincerity of heart The Spirit of adoption Sound Regeneration and Sanctification Inward peace Groundednesse in the truth Continuance to the end Phil. Now you come neere the quick indeed For in my judgement none of these can be found truly in any reprobate Therefore I thinke no Divine can take exception against any of these Theol. No I assure you no more then a Lawyer can finde fault with the Tenure of mens lands and fee-simples when as both the title is good and strong by law and the evidences thereof are sealed subscribed delivered conveyed and sufficient witnesse upon the same and all other signes and ceremonies in the delivering and taking possession thereof according to strict law observed For if a man have these forenamed evidences of his salvation sure it is his title and interest to heaven is good by the Law of Moses and the Prophets I meane the word of God God himselfe subscribeth to them Iesus Christ delivereth them as his owne deed the holy Ghost sealeth unto them yea the three great witnesses which beare record in the earth that is water bloud and the spirit do all witnesse the same Phil. Now you have very fully satisfied mee touching this point And one thing more I doe gather out of all your speech to wit that you doe thinke a man may be assured of his salvation even in this life Theol. I doe thinke so indeed For hee that knoweth not in this life that he shall be saved shall never be saved after this life For St. John saith 1 John 3.2 Now we are made the sons of God Phil. But because many doubt of this and the Papists do altogether deny it therefore I pray you confirm it unto us out of the Scriptures Theol. The Apostle saith 1 Cor. 5.2 Wee know that if our earthly house of this Tabernacle be destroyed wee have a building given us of God that is an house not made with hands but eternall in the heavens Marke that hee saith both hee and the rest of Gods people did certainly know that Heaven was provided for them Rom. 8.15 16. For the spirit of adoption beareth witnesse with our spirits that we are the children of God And againe the same Apostle saith from henceforth is laid up for mee the crown of righteousnesse â— Tim. 4.8 which the Lord the righteous judge shall give me at that day and not to me onely but to all them that love his appearing Here wee see that he knew there was a crowne prepared for him and for the Elect. And the same Spirit which did assure it unto Paul doth assure it also to all the children of God For they have all the same Spirit though not in the same measure Saint John saith also Herein wee are sure wee know him 1 John 2.3 if we keep his commandements In which words St. Iohn telleth us thâ—â— much thâ—â— if wee do unfainedly endeavour to obey God there is in us the true knowledge and feare of God and consequently we are sure we shall be saved Saint Peter saith 1 Pet. 1.10 Give all diligence to make your calling and election sure Wherefore should the Apostle exhort us to make our election sure if none could be sure of it In the second of the Ephesians the Apostle saith flatly that in Christ Jesus wee doe already sit together in heavenly places His meaning is not that wee are there already in possession but wee are as sure of it as if wee were there already The reasons hereof are these Christ our head is in possession Therefore he will draw all his members unto him as he himselfe saith John 12.22 John 24.13 Secondly wee are as sure of the thing which wee
Booke of life For whom hee hath predestinate them hee hath called Rom. 8.30 and whom hee hath called them hee hath justified and whom he hath justified them he hath glorified Now therefore till wee feele these markes of election wrought in us we can be at no certainty in this point neither are wee to take any notice of it or meddle in it but we must strive according to that power and faculty wee have to live honestly and civilly waiting when God will have mercy on us and give us the true touch As for them that are carelesse and dissolute letting all at six and seven there is small hope that they are elected or ever shall be called Antil I thinke the preaching and publishing of this doctrine of predestination hath done much hurt and it had been good it had never been knowne to the people but utterly concealed For some it driveth to despaire and others it maketh more secure and carelesse Theol. You are in a great errour for this doctrine is part of Gods revealed Truth which hee would have knowne to his people And in good sooth it is of very great and comfortable use to the Children of God against all the assaults of the Divell and temptations of desperation whatsoever For when a man hath once in truth felt by the effects that God hath chosen him to life then though the Divell lye sore at him and the conscience of sinne and his owne frailties doe vehemently assault him yet he knoweth certainly that the eternall purpose and counsell of God is immutable and that because his salvation is not grounded upon himselfe or his owne strength but upon the unchangeable decree of GOD which is a foundation immoveable and alwayes standing sure and firme therefore doe the Divell and sin what they can yet he shall be upheld in righteousnesse and truth and even as it were borne up in the armes of God even to the end For whom God loveth to the end he loveth them Moreover when once the Lords people perceive by their sanctification and new birth both that the Lord hath rejected and reprobated so many thousand thousands and made choice of them to be heires of his most glorious Kingdome being in themselves of the same mould and making that others are and that he hath done all this of his free grace and undeserved mercy towards them oh how doth it ravish their hearts with the love of him Againe how frankly and cheerfully doe they serve him how willingly and faithfully doe they obey him Yea how are they wholly rapt and inflamed with the desire of him For it is the perswasion and feeling of Gods love towards us that draweth up our love to him againe as St. John saith 1. John 4. We love him because he hath love us first Moreover it is said of Mary Magdalen Luke 7. that she loved much because much was forgiven For after shee felt her many great sins freely pardoned her affections were kindled with the love and obedience of Christ So likewise the Church in the Canticles Cant. â— 5 after shee had beene in the banquetting house of all spirituall grace and felt the banner of Christs love displayed upon her forthwith shee was rape therewith and cryed out as it were in a swoun that shee was sicke of love So againe Cant. 5.5 when Christ put in his hand by the hole of the doore that is touched the very inward parts of her heart by his spirit then her heart yearned and her bowels were affectioned towards him This is it which St. Paul prayeth for upon his knees Eph. 18 19 that it may be granted to the Ephesians that they may bee able to comprehend with all the Saints what is the breadth and length height and depth of Gods love towards us and to know the love of Christ which passeth knowledge and to be filled with all fulnesse of God Thus then you see the great and comfortable use of this doctrine of election both in that it ministreth strength comfort against all temptations as also because it constraineth us to love God and of very love to feare him and obey him Phil. Well Sir I think now you have spent time enough in answering the objections and cavils of Antilegon In all which I doe observe one thing that there is no end of cavilling and objecting against the truth and that a man may object more in an houre then a learned man can well answer in a day Theol. You say truth And the reason hereof is because men have sin in them out of measure and the Spirit of God but in measure Therefore they can by the one object and conceive more against the truth then by the other they shall be able to answer and say for it Phil. It appeareth indeed that errours be infinite and objections innumerable and that there is no end of mens cavilling against Gods sacred truth It is good for us therefore to be thorowly settled in the truth that we be not entangled or snared with any cavils or sophistications whatsoever And I doe verily thinke notwithstanding all his objections and exceptions that he doth in his conscience desire with Balaam to dye the death of the righteous and to be as one of them whom he seemeth to despise Theol. I am so perswaded too For this is the triumph that vertue hath over vice that where she is most hated there she is often desired and wished for And this is the great punishment that God bringeth upon the wicked Virtutem ut videant intabescantque relicta as saith the Poet That they shall see vertue and pine away having no power to follow it Phil. But now let us returne to the point wee were in hand with before wee fell into these objections and cavils which was concerning the small number of them which shall be saved and as you have shewed us many reasons thereof so proceed to speak yet more unto that point Theol. As I have shewed you of sundry lets both within us and without us which doe keep us backe from God and hold us fast in our sinnes so now unto all that hath been said before I will adde nine great hinderances unto eternall life which may not unfitly be termed nine bars out of Heaven and nine gates into Hell Phil. Which be they Theol. They be these Infidelity Nine gates into Hell Presumption of Gods mercy Examples of the multitude Long custome of sin Long escaping of punishment Hope of long life Conceitednesse Ill company Evill examples of Ministers Phil. These indeed be strong bars out of heaven and wide gates into hell I pray you therefore prove them of the Scriptures and lay them forth somewhat more largely Theol. The first which is Infidelity is proved out of the fourth chapter to the Hebrewes verse 2. where it is written Unto us was the Gospel preached as unto them but the word which they heard profited them not because it was not mixed
foole for flattering himselfe in security and promising unto himselfe long life Moreover hee plainely told him that the same night hee should make a hellish and miserable end Note I pray you how Iesus Christ the fountaine of all wisedome câ—lleth this man a foole and yeeldeth a reason thereof to wit because hee gathered riches to himselfe and was not rich in God hee had great care of this life and none at all for that which is to come So then it followeth that all such are right fooles indeed and may be chronicled for fooles how wise soever they be taken and reputed in the world which have much care for their bodies and none for their soules great care for this life and little for that which is to come well let all such profane worldlings as dreame and dote of long life and therefore deferre the day of their repentance and conversion unto God take heed by this mans example that they reckon not without their host and he suddenly snatcht away in the midst of all their pleasures and jollitie â—â—s Job saith Job 22.13 Some die in their full strength being in all ease and prosperity Their breasts run full of milke and their bones run full of marrow Wee see therefore how dangerous a thing it is for men to flatter and â—ooth up themselves with hope of long life Phil. Proceed to the seventh gate which is Conceitednesse Theol. This is indeed a very broad gate into hell For the Scripture saith Prov. 16.12 Seest thou a man wise in his owne conceit There is more hope of a foole than of such a one And againe The foole is wiser in his owne eyes Prov. 26. â—6 then seven men that can give a sensible reason The holy Ghost wee see affirmeth that such as are puft up with an overweâ—ning of their owne gifts are farthest of all other from the Kingdome of Heaven For they despise the wisedome of God to their owne destruction They hold scorne to be taught they will say they know as much as all the Preachers can tell them For what can all the Preachers say more then this Wee are all sinners wee must bee saved by Christ wee must do as wee would be done to There is no more but doe well and have well c. Alas poore soules they looke â—loft they are desperately hoven up with conceitednesse not knowing that they are poore Rev. 3.17 naked blind and miserable These men trust altogether to their owne wit learning policie riches and great reputation in the world And because all men crouch to them and clap their hands at them therefore they swell like Turkiâ—â—-Cocks set up their feathers and draw their wings upon the ground with a kind of snuffe and disdaine of all men as if they were the onely wights of the world Moreover when men doe praise them for their naturall gifts soothe them and applaud them then it is a wonder to see how they streake themselves as though they would forthwith take their flight and mount unto the clouds But let all insolent and conceived men hearken unto the woe that is pronounced against them by the eternall King of glory saying Woe unto them that are wise in their owne eies Esay 5.21 and prudent in their owne sight Againe let them hearken to the counsell of God which saith Trust unto the Lord with all thine heart Pro. 3.5 but leane not unto thine owne wisedome Be not wise in thine owne eyes but feare God and depart from evill These silly conceited fooles thinke that because they have the cast of this life and can cunningly compasse the things of this world and goe through stitch with them therefore they can compasse heaven also by their fine wits and deepe devices but alas poore wretches they are greatly and grossely deceived For the wisedome of the world is foolishnesse with God and hee cotcheth the wise in their owne craftinesse 1 Cor. â— 19 And againe the Lord saith 1 Cor. 1.19 I will destroy the wisedome of the wise and will cast away the understanding of the prudent Let not these men therefore stand too much in their owne light let them not trust to their owne policies for they are all but as an ice of one nights freezing which will deceive them that trust unto it Let them therefore become fooles in themselves that God may make them wiâ—â— Let them denie themselves that God may acknowledge them Let them be humbled in themselves that God may exalt them For assuredly there is no use after this life of the most exquisite wisedome of flesh it endeth all when wee end Eccles 2.16 For how dieth the wise man â—â—ven as dieth the foole saith the holy Ghost And where all worldly wisedome endeth there all heavenly wisedome beginneth Thus therefore we see what a wide gate into hell Conceitednesse is and how many enter in thereat Phil. Now let us understand of the eighth gate into hell which is Ill Company Theol. The Spirit of God foreseeing the great danger of this and knowing how ready wee are to be carried away with ill company doth give us most earnest warning to take heed of it as a most dangerous thing Prov. 4.14 Enter not saith hee in the way of the wicked and walke not in the way of evill men Avoid it goe not by it turne from it and passe by The reason hereof is yeelded in another place where it is said Prov. 13.20 A companion of fools shall be made worse Let men therefore take heed of ill company for many thereby have beene brought to the gallowes and have confessed upon the ladder that ill company hath brought them unto it and therefore have admonished all by their example to take heed and beware of lewd company Moreover the Scripture saith Hee that followeth vaine companions shall be filled with poverty Prov. 18.19 And again in the same chapter Hee that keepeth company with banquetters shameth his father Let us therefore say with David Psa 119.63 I am a companion of all them that feare God and keepe his commandements And on the contrary let us say with him Psal 2.6 I have not haunted with vaine persons neither kept company with the dâ—ssemblers I hate the assembly of the evill and have not accompanied with the wicked Let us therefore by Davids example shun the company of the wicked for as a man is so is his company It is the surest note to discerne a man by For as all unlike things are unsociable so all like things are sociable Herein let us beware wee deceive not our selves with vaine words and an opinion of our owne strength as if wee were as strong as Christ and could not be drawne away with any company No no wee are more apt to be drawne than to draw to be drawne to evill by others then to draw others to good therefore God saith by his Prophet Jer. 15.16 Let them returne unto thee
of your coming to receive the Sacrament Asun To receive my Maker Theol. What is the principall use of a Sacrament Asun The body and bloud of Christ Theol. What profit and comfort have you by a Sacrament Asun In token that Christ died for us Theol. I can but pitty you for your ignorance for it is exceeding grosse and palpable Your answers are to no purpose and bewray a wonderfull blindenesse and senselesnesse in matters of Religion I am sorry that now I have not time and leisure to let you see your folly and extreme ignorance as also to lay open unto you the sense and meaning of the Articles of the Faith the Lords prayer and the Sacraments and all other the grounds of Christian Religion Asun What course would you wish me to take that I may come out of ignorance and attaine unto the true knowledge of God Theol. Surely I would wish you to be diligent in hearing of Sermons and reading the Scriptures with prayer and humility Also that you would peruse Catechismes and other good bookes and especially Virels grounds of Religion and the workes of the two worthy servants of God Master Giffard and Master Perkins and other mens that have done great service to the Church and for whom thousands are bound to give God thankes If you take this course you shall by Gods grace within a short time grow to some good measure of knowledge in all the main grounds of Christian Religion Phil. I had not thought any man had beene so ignorant as I now perceive this man is Theol. Yes verily there be thousands in his case And I doe know by experience that many will use the very same answers or at least very little differing Phil. I warrant you if you had questioned with him of kine or sheepe purchasing of land taking of leases or any other matters under the Sun you should have found him very ripe and ready in his answers Theol. I am so perswaded too For let a man talke with worldly men of worldly matters and their answer is never to seeke They will talke very freshly with you of such matters if it be all the day long For they have a deep in-sight into earthly things doe wholly delight to talk of them being never weary For it is their joy their meat and their drink But come once to talk with them of Gods matters as of faith repentance regeneration c. you shall find them the veriest dullards and dunces in the world For when speech is had of these things they are so bâ—fogged that they cannot tell where they are nor what they say Phil. In my judgement such mens case is very pitifull and dangerous and so is this mans case also if God doe not very speedily pull him out of it Theol. Questionlesse For God saith 〈…〉 My people perish for want of knowledge Our Lord Iesus saith that ignorance is the cause of all errours Mat. â—2 15. Ye erre saith he not knowing the Scriptures The Apostle saith that ignorance doth alienate us from the life of God Epâ—â—â— 4 â—8 For saith he the Gentiles were darkened in their cogitation being strangers from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them So then it is cleere that ignorance is not the Mother of devotion as the Papists doe avouch but it is the Mother of errour death and destruction as the Scripture affirmeth Our Lord foreseeing the great danger of ignorance how thereby thousands are carried headlong into hell doth admonish all men to search the Scriptures which doe testifie of him that so they might get out of the most dangerous gulfe of ignorance wherein multitudes are implunged Therefore the Noble men of Berea are commended by the holy Ghost 〈◊〉 17.11 because they received the Word with all readinesse and searched the Scriptures daily whether those things were so Oh therefore that men would earnestly seeke after the knowledge of God in time and as the Prophet saith seeke the Lord whilest he may be found call upon him whilest hee is neere Esay 55.6 Phil. I doe see that all ignorance in matters of faith is dangerous but I thinke wilfull ignorance is of all other most dangerous Theol. Wilfull ignorance no doubt is a plaine prognostication and demonstrative argument of eternall death for it is a most horrible and fearfull thing for men to refuse instruction despise counsell harden their hearts stop their eares and close up their eyes against God This is the very upshot of our decay Phil. I pray you what call you hardnesse of heart Theol. An hard heart is that which is neither moved with Gods mercies nor scared with his judgements neither feareth the Law nor regardeth the Gospel neither is holpen by threatnings nor softened by chastenings whis is unthankfull for Gods benefits and disobedient to his counsels made cruell by his rods and dissolute by his favours unshamefac't to filthinesse and fearlesse to perils uncourteous to men and wretchlesse to God forgetfull of things past negligent in things present and improvident in things to come Phil. Lay forth yet more plainely the state of ignorant and hard-hearted men and shew how lamentable it is Theol. If a man bee outwardly blind wee do pitty him and say There goes a poore blind man but if hee be both blind and deafe doe we not more pity him and say Oh in how miserable a case is that man but if hee be both blind deaf and dumb do we not most of all pity him and say Oh that man is in a most wofull taking and in a most pitifull plight How much more then are they to be pitied which as concerning their souls are both blind deafe and dumb For the diseases of the soule are farre more dangerous and more to be pitied then those of the body Would it not pity a mans heart to see a poore sheepe in a Lions mouth whilest hee teareth him rendeth him and puls out his guts Even such is the case of ignorant men in the clawes of the Divell For the Divell hath them under him rideth them at his pleasure and teareth their soules in pieces Oh that wee had eyes to see these things hearts to feele them and affections to be throughly moved with them even unto mourning and teares Phil. Few doe thinke that ignorant men are in so wofull a case as you speake of for they thinke ignorance will excuse them And some will say they are glad they have so little knowledge For if they should have much knowledge of their Masters will and do it not they should be beaten with many stripes but now being ignorant they thinke all is safe Theol. God willed his people to offer sacrifice for their sinnes of ignorance therefore ignorance is a sin and excuseth no man And as for the state of their soules before God it is most miserable if wee could see into their soules as w e see their bodies For assuredly there be multitudes which ruffle it
for his son or the mother for the daughter yet can none of these be heard they must all have the repuise For the sentence of Christ cannot be reversed his decree is unrepealeable The due consideration of these things may make all hearts to quake and all knees to tremble In the troubles and afflictions of this life though a man come in never so great danger yet hee may wind out againe by one meanes or another by mony or friendship or rewards or such like meanes but in Hell-fire this is it that gripes and maketh the heart despaire that there is no remedy at all to be used If wee should aske of a damned soule or an afflicted conscience what they would give for the ease and redemption of their soules they would answer the whole world howsoever secure worldlings and wicked Atheists which see nothing or feele nothing make nothing of it Here by the way let us consider the greatnesse of the losse of a mans soule which we shall the better perceive and see into if we can aright value and prize the soule If therefore it be demanded what is the price of the soule or what is it worth Our Lord Iesus answereth that it is more worth then all the world For saith hee Mat. 1â— What shall it profit a man â—o win all the world and lose his soule Therefore the soule of the poorest beggar is more worth then all the world Then I reason thus If the soule be more worth then all the world then the losse of it is greater then the losse of the whole world For indeed it is a losse of all losses an unrecoverable losse If a man should have his house burnt over his head and all that hee hath consumed in one night it were a great losse If a Merchant-venturer should lose twenty thousand pounds in one venture in one ship or as they say in one bottome it were a very great losse If a King should lose his Crowne and Kingdome it were an exceeding great losse But the losse of the soule is a thousand times more then all these it is a matter of infinite importance If a Tenant be cast out of the favour of his Land-lord it is a matter of griefe If a Noblemans Secretary be cast out of favour with his Lord so that he taketh a pritch against him it is a matter of great sorrow If a Nobleman himselfe be discountenanced and cast out of all favour with his Prince that was in great favour it is a corsie a heart-smart and a matter of exceeding grievance But to be eternally separated from God to be shut out of his favour and to be cast away from his presence and the presence of his Angels is a matter of infinite more dolour and torment Marke then and behold what a thing it is for a man to lose his soule Oh therefore that men would be wise in Gods feare that they would looke out in time and make provision for their soules Now then to close up this whole point the summe of all that hath been said is this That the torments of Hell are endlesse easelesse and remedilesse Asun The laying open of these doctrines of Hell fire and the judgement to come makes me quake and tremble I am much thereby perplexed I feele great terrour in my conscience I am affraid I shall be damned Antil Damned man What speake you of damning I am ashamed to heare you say so For it is well knowne that you are an honest man a quiet liver a good neighbour and as good a townes-man as any in the Parish where you dwell and you have been alwayes so reputed and taken If you should be damned I know not who shall be saved Asun I regard not your flatteries I beleeve God I beleeve his Word I beleeve those things which Master Theologus hath alledged out of the holy Scriptures pointing mee both to the Chapter and the Verse and whether it be more meet that I should beleeve the Scriptures or your soothings judge you No no now I doe cleerly see by the glasse of Gods Law that my state is wretched and miserable For I have lived in sinne and ignorance all the dayes of my life being utterly void of all Religion and true knowledge of God I am not the man indeed that you and others take mee for For though outwardly I have lived honestly to the world-ward yet inwardly I have not lived religiously to God-ward Antil Tush tush now I see you are in a melancholy humour If you will goe home with mee I can give you a speedy remedy for I have many pleasant and merry bookes which if you should heare them read would soone remedy you of this melancholy passion I have the Court of Venus The Palace of Pleasure Bevis of South-hampton Ellen of Rummin The merry jest of the Friar and the Boy The pleasant Story of Clem of the Clough Adam Bell and William of Cloudesly The odde tale of William Richard and Humfrey The pretty conceit of John Splinters last Will and Testament which all are excellent and singular bookes against heart-qualmes and to remove such dumpishnesse as I see you are now fallen into Asun Your vaine and frivolous bookes of tales jests and lies would more increase my griefe and strike the print of sorrow deeper into my heart Antil Nay if you be of that mind I have done with you Phil. I pray you if a man may be so bold with you how came you by all these good books I should have said so much trash and rubbish Antil What mattereth it to you What have you to doe to enquire But I pray you Sir what doe you meane to call them trash and rubbish Phil. Because they be no better They be goodly geere trim stuffe They are good to kindle a fire or to scoure a hot oven withall And shall I tell you my opinion of them I doe thus thinke That they were devised by the Divell seene and allowed by the Pope printed in Hell bound up by Hobgoblin and first published and dispersed in Rome Italy and Spaine and all to this end that thereby men might be kept from the reading of the Scriptures For even as a Lapwing with her busie crie draweth men away from her nest so the Popish generation by these fabulous devices draw men from the Scriptures Antil Ah Sir I see now a fooles bolt is soon shot You are more precise then wise The Vicar of Saint Fooles shall be your ghostly father What tell you mee of your opinion I would you should wel know I neither regard you nor your opinion There be wiser men then you who both reade allow and take pleasure in these bookes Theol. Let him alone good Philagathus for you see what he is there is no end of his crossing and cavilling But he that is ignorant let him be ignorant and he that is filthy let him be more filthy Let us now turne our speech to Asunetus for I see
As farre as is the East from the West so farre hath hee removed our sinnes from us As a Father hath compassion on his children so hath the Lord compassion on them that feare him For he knowes whereof wee be made he remembreth that wee are but dust The History of the lost sonne doth most notably set forth the wonderfull mercy of God towards penitent sinners There is shewed how the Lord doth embrace tender Luke 1â— 20 and made much of such poore sinners as have broken and contrite hearts for their sinnes for it is said that when the Father saw his repenting Sonne a great way off hee had compassion on him and ranne and fell on his neck and kissed him and cloathed him with the best robe put it on him put a ring on his hand and shooes on his feet and caused the fat calfe to be killed for him Even so the everlasting Father doth rejoyce at the conversion of any of his lost sonnes Yea there is joy in the presence of the Angels of God for one sinner that converteth Moreover the Lord most lively expresseth his mercifull nature and disposition in this That he is very loth we should perish and willingly cast away our selves Therefore often in the holy Scriptures he mournes for us bewailes our wretchednesse and takes up many pitifull complaints and lamentations for us Psal â—1 13 saying O that my people had hearkened unto mee and Israel had walked in my waies Psa 48.18 And againe O that thou hadst hearkened unto my commandements then had thy prosperity been as the floud and thy righteousnesse as the waters of the sea Againe hee mourningly complaines by his Prophet Hosea saying O Ephraim what shall I doe to thee O Judah how shall I intreat thee And in another place Isa 5. What could I doe more to my Vineyard that I have not done Marke here how compassionately the Almighty God doth yerne over us and even as it were blood upon our wounds The Apostle also notes the rich mercy and marvellous love of GOD to mankind in this that hee doth beseech us and pray us by the Ministers of the Gospel that wee would be reconciled unto him The words are these Now then are wee Embassadours for Christ as though God did beseech you through us wee pray you in Christs stead that you be reconciled unto God Is it not a strange thing that the omnipotent God should fall to entreating of us poore wretches It is all one as if a King should intreat a begger whom hee may will and command But the abundant mercy of God towards mankind doth most of all consist in this That hee hath given his onely Sonne for us when wee were his enemies as it is written God so loved the world that hee hath given his onely begotten Sonne John â— that whosoever beleeves in him should not perish but have everlasting life Againe Gods sets out his love towards us seeing that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us much more then being now justified by his bloud wee shall be saved from wrath through him Rom. 5.1 For if when wee were enemies wee were reconciled to God by the death of his Sonne much more being reconciled we shall be saved by his life In all this then wee may cleerely behold the infinite mercy of God towards us poore sinners For is it not a great matter that the Son of God should take our nature upon him should be so abased as he was and should humble himselfe to death Phil. 2. â— even to the death of the crosse For as the shadow of the Diall went backe ten degrees that Ezechias might receive length of dayes and much happinesse so Christ the Sonne of righteousnesse hath gone backe many degrees that we might have eternall life His humiliation therefore is our exaltation his sufferings our joy his death our life For wee have no other remedy or refuge but only his merits and righteousnes He is our City of refuge whither we must flie and where wee must take sanctuary Jer. 9. He is the balme of Gilead whereby our soules are cured He is that poole of Bethesda John â— 2 where every man may be cured of what disease soever he hath 2 Kin. 5. He is the river of Jordan where Naaman may wash away all his leprosie He is that Pelican who by pecking a hole in his owne breast doth restore his young to life againe by his bloud Yet one thing wee must note by the way which hath been partly touched before That all the mercies of God and merits of Christ are to be restrained only to the Elect only to the true members of the Church as plainly appeareth in Psal 103. where the mercies of God which are there largely described are restrained onely to them that feare him keep his Covenant and thinke upon his Commandements to doe them And touching Christ it is said that hee is a Prince and a Saviour unto Israel and that he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities Againe it is written Psal 130. that Christ being consecrate was made the Authour of eternall salvation to them that obey him Heb. 5.6 None doe or can obey him but only the Elect therefore hee is the Authour of salvation onely to the Elect. And consequently the profane world whatsoever they say whatsoever they brag and boast have no true title or interest in him This thing was figured in the Law in this that the Mercy-seat which was a type of Gods mercy in Christ and the Arke which was a figure of the Church were by the expresse commandement of GOD fitted each to other Exod. 25.10 both in length and breadth For as the Arke was two cubits and a halfe long and a cubit and a halfe broad just so was the Mercy-seat Noting thereby that the mercy of God in Christ should onely be fitted to his Church and belong onely to the Church so as not one without the Church should be saved For hee that hath not the Church for his Mother cannot have God for his Father Lastly we are to observe that as God is infinite in mercy and of great compassion toward penitent sinners so also is hee most constant in the course of his mercies towards his children And therefore one of the Psalmes carries this foot Psal 156. His mercie endureth for ever his mercie endureth for ever his mercie endureth for ever Noting thereby both the constancie and eternitie of Gods mercy To the same purpose it is thus written Lam. 3 2â— It is the Lords mercie that wee are not consumed it is because his compassions faile not Let us know therefore that God as touching his mercy to his children is of a most constant and unchangeable nature As hee saith I am the Lord I change not For if GOD were of a changeable nature as we are and subject to passions then were wee in a most miserable case then must hee