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name_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n etc._n etc._n and_o now_o see_v there_o be_v both_o precept_n and_o example_n for_o it_o therefore_o it_o be_v no_o sin_n to_o baptize_v man_n and_o woman_n at_o year_n of_o discretion_n 4._o that_o mr._n baxter_n mr._n hall_n and_o mr._n cook_n way_n of_o baptise_v be_v sinful_a be_v evident_a first_o because_o they_o baptize_v little_a babe_n before_o they_o come_v to_o year_n of_o discretion_n for_o which_o they_o have_v neither_o precept_n nor_o example_n therefore_o utter_o inconsistent_a with_o christ_n rule_n for_o baptism_n and_o a_o sinful_a practice_n as_o mr._n baxter_n himself_o have_v grant_v in_o these_o former_a argument_n and_o thus_o out_o of_o his_o own_o mouth_n he_o be_v judge_v and_o condemn_v for_o a_o sinner_n second_o that_o this_o their_o way_n of_o baptise_v infant_n before_o
they_o come_v to_o year_n of_o discretion_n be_v sinful_a i_o further_o prove_v because_o they_o by_o their_o tradition_n of_o rantize_v or_o sprinkle_v babe_n before_o they_o understand_v and_o believe_v the_o gospel_n do_v make_v the_o command_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v to_o baptize_v man_n and_o woman_n when_o they_o believe_v and_o understand_v of_o none_o effect_n and_o so_o in_o vain_a they_o worship_v god_n and_o they_o which_o take_v his_o name_n in_o vain_a he_o will_v not_o hold_v they_o guiltless_a see_v mar._n 7.7_o 8_o 9_o matth._n 15.8_o 9_o and_o thus_o they_o bind_v two_o sin_n together_o and_o in_o the_o one_o they_o shall_v not_o go_v unpunished_a now_o to_o his_o three_o argument_n which_o be_v draw_v from_o that_o which_o he_o have_v speak_v already_o as_o he_o himself_o confess_v which_o he_o lay_v down_o thus_o that_o practice_n which_o go_v upon_o mere_a uncertainty_n and_o have_v no_o scripture-rule_n to_o guide_v it_o be_v not_o according_a to_o the_o will_n of_o christ_n but_o the_o practice_n of_o baptise_v of_o child_n of_o christian_n at_o age_n go_v upon_o mere_a uncertainty_n and_o have_v no_o scripture-rule_a to_o guide_v it_o therefore_o it_o be_v not_o according_a to_o the_o will_n of_o christ_n answ_n who_o will_v think_v mr._n baxter_n can_v have_v chap_v one_o argument_n into_o so_o many_o piece_n to_o multiply_v word_n for_o this_o argument_n be_v the_o same_o in_o substance_n with_o the_o two_o former_a only_o put_v down_o in_o other_o word_n but_o i_o further_o answer_v thus_o 1._o that_o to_o baptize_v man_n and_o woman_n when_o they_o believe_v be_v not_o a_o uncertain_a rule_n but_o very_o certain_a both_o from_o the_o command_n of_o christ_n and_o example_n of_o the_o apostle_n as_o mar._n 16.16_o he_o that_o believe_v and_o be_v baptize_v shall_v be_v save_v and_o act_v 2.41_o they_o that_o glad_o receive_v the_o word_n be_v baptize_v and_o add_v etc._n etc._n chap._n 8.12_o when_o they_o believe_v philip_n preach_v 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thus_o be_v mr._n baxters_n sword_n turn_v with_o the_o edge_n against_o himself_o to_o mr._n baxters_n six_o argument_n which_o be_v against_o the_o manner_n of_o baptise_v by_o dip_v the_o which_o he_o make_v a_o breach_n of_o the_o six_o commandment_n thou_o shall_v not_o kill_v and_o therefore_o no_o ordinance_n of_o god_n but_o a_o heinous_a sin_n and_o so_o exhort_v the_o magistrate_n pag._n 134._o and_o pag._n 136._o in_o the_o conclusion_n of_o his_o argument_n to_o destroy_v the_o anabaptist_n as_o well_o as_o highway-murderer_n to_o which_o i_o shall_v answer_v in_o order_n as_o follow_v first_o observe_v how_o mr._n baxter_n prove_v it_o murder_n he_o use_v not_o one_o scripture_n therefore_o none_o can_v believe_v he_o that_o desire_v to_o make_v the_o word_n of_o god_n a_o ground_n of_o their_o faith_n but_o he_o labour_v to_o prove_v it_o thus_o by_o affirm_v out_o of_o his_o own_o mouth_n only_o that_o its_o flat_a murder_n be_v ordinary_o use_v and_o then_o insinuate_v thus_o it_o be_v undeniable_a to_o any_o understand_a man_n for_o say_v he_o again_o that_o which_o direct_o tend_v to_o the_o overthrow_n of_o man_n life_n be_v wilful_o use_v be_v plain_a murder_n but_o dip_v man_n over_o head_n in_o cold_a water_n ordinary_o do_v tend_v to_o the_o overthrow_n of_o their_o health_n and_o life_n therefore_o wilful_a murder_n answ_n in_o all_o this_o the_o reader_n shall_v do_v well_o to_o observe_v that_o mr._n baxter_n have_v use_v many_o vain_a word_n which_o prove_v nothing_o except_o we_o grant_v he_o that_o dip_v people_n after_o this_o manner_n do_v tend_v to_o the_o overthrow_n of_o man_n life_n which_o we_o can_v do_v because_o scripture_n and_o experience_n have_v teach_v we_o the_o contrary_a as_o i_o shall_v show_v anon_o but_o he_o proceed_v thus_o i_o dare_v say_v that_o in_o city_n like_o
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christ_n be_v not_o worthy_a of_o i_o and_o he_o that_o will_v save_v his_o life_n shall_v lose_v it_o mat._n 10.27_o 38_o 39_o and_o true_o if_o mr._n baxter_n make_v so_o much_o of_o follow_v christ_n into_o the_o water_n how_o will_v he_o follow_v he_o through_o the_o fire_n if_o he_o shall_v be_v call_v to_o it_o it_o be_v very_o probable_a he_o will_v write_v as_o big_a a_o book_n against_o suffer_v with_o christ_n as_o he_o have_v now_o do_v against_o obey_v of_o christ_n in_o this_o ordinance_n of_o baptism_n of_o which_o christ_n say_v thus_o it_o become_v not_o only_o he_o but_o also_o we_o to_o fulfil_v all_o righteousness_n matth._n 3.15_o and_o yet_o for_o all_o this_o it_o be_v mr._n baxters_n judgement_n that_o self-preservation_n do_v become_v we_o better_o than_o fulfil_v of_o righteousness_n in_o obey_v this_o command_n or_o follow_v this_o example_n of_o christ_n as_o aforesaid_a last_o i_o desire_v the_o reader_n may_v diligent_o and_o in_o the_o fear_n of_o god_n consider_v how_o like_a mr._n baxters_n counsel_n to_o we_o be_v unto_o peter_n counsel_n to_o the_o lord_n christ_n mat._n 16_o 21_o 22_o 23._o when_o christ_n begin_v to_o show_v to_o his_o disciple_n that_o he_o must_v suffer_v many_o thing_n of_o the_o elder_n and_o chief_a priest_n and_o scribes_z and_o be_v kill_v etc._n etc._n then_o peter_n begin_v to_o be_v rebuke_v he_o say_v be_v it_o far_o from_o thou_o lord_n this_o shall_v not_o be_v unto_o thou_o even_o so_o do_v mr._n baxter_n say_v to_o we_o and_o especial_o to_o gentlewoman_n old_a and_o weak_a people_n and_o shopkeeper_n and_o woman_n that_o take_v but_o little_a of_o the_o cold_a air_n than_o he_o tell_v they_o o_o be_v it_o far_o from_o you_o this_o shall_v not_o be_v unto_o you_o for_o i_o dare_v say_v in_o the_o course_n of_o nature_n it_o will_v kill_v hundred_o and_o thousand_o of_o you_o either_o sudden_o or_o by_o cast_v you_o into_o some_o chronical_a disease_n etc._n etc._n thus_o we_o see_v how_o mr._n baxter_n counsel_n and_o peter_n do_v agree_v in_o these_o case_n therefore_o let_v all_o that_o true_o fear_v god_n learn_v of_o christ_n to_o answer_v mr._n baxter_n as_o he_o answer_v st._n peter_n verse_n 23._o in_o these_o word_n get_v thou_o behind_o i_o satan_n for_o thou_o be_v a_o offence_n unto_o i_o for_o thou_o savory_a not_o the_o thing_n that_o be_v of_o god_n but_o those_o that_o be_v of_o man_n and_o thus_o i_o leave_v what_o i_o have_v write_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o they_o that_o fear_v god_n and_o proceed_v to_o his_o seven_o argument_n his_o seven_o argument_n as_o he_o say_v be_v against_o another_o wickedness_n in_o the_o manner_n of_o baptise_v which_o he_o say_v be_v our_o dip_v of_o person_n naked_a as_o be_v usual_a with_o the_o modest_a that_o he_o have_v hear_v of_o which_o he_o say_v further_a be_v a_o breach_n of_o the_o seven_o commandment_n which_o say_v thou_o shall_v not_o commit_v adultery_n and_o therefore_o be_v intolerable_a wickedness_n and_o 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do_v confident_o charge_v we_o with_o baptise_v maid_n naked_a as_o if_o he_o take_v it_o for_o grant_v that_o it_o be_v certain_o true_a and_o therefore_o he_o break_v out_o into_o these_o word_n and_o say_v if_o mr._n tomb_n can_v baptize_v all_o the_o maid_n in_o bewd_o naked_a and_o think_v it_o no_o immodesty_n he_o have_v lose_v his_o common_a ingenuity_n and_o modesty_n with_o the_o truth_n answ_n i_o confess_v if_o he_o do_v such_o thing_n i_o shall_v think_v he_o have_v lose_v his_o modesty_n indeed_o but_o mr._n baxter_n shall_v first_o prove_v that_o mr._n tomb_n or_o any_o man_n else_o do_v ever_o baptize_v any_o maid_n or_o woman_n naked_a in_o any_o place_n in_o england_n he_o shall_v prove_v this_o first_o and_o then_o he_o do_v something_o and_o have_v some_o ground_n to_o reason_n thus_o but_o till_o then_o he_o do_v but_o wicked_o labour_n by_o say_v all_o manner_n of_o evil_a say_n on_o we_o false_o as_o mat._n 5.11_o to_o cast_v dirt_n upon_o the_o truth_n of_o christ_n 1._o by_o suppose_v the_o thing_n to_o be_v so_o without_o proof_n say_v if_o mr._n tomb_n can_v do_v such_o thing_n etc._n etc._n 2._o by_o insinuate_v into_o the_o affection_n of_o man_n and_o woman_n persuade_v they_o that_o it_o be_v so_o without_o question_n and_o say_v be_v not_o every_o good_a man_n sensible_a of_o the_o deceitfulness_n of_o his_o own_o heart_n and_o that_o he_o need_v all_o help_n against_o it_o etc._n etc._n and_o will_v it_o be_v no_o temptation_n to_o mr._n tomb_n to_o be_v frequent_o employ_v in_o baptise_v maid_n naked_a let_v he_o search_v and_o judge_v methinks_v say_v he_o the_o very_a mention_n of_o it_o can_v i_o avoid_v it_o be_v immodest_a answ_n i_o wonder_v why_o mr._n baxter_n say_v if_o he_o can_v avoid_v it_o what_o can_v he_o not_o avoid_v speak_v of_o untruth_n be_v he_o predestinate_v to_o be_v a_o liar_n and_o insinuate_v into_o people_n heart_n as_o if_o the_o thing_n be_v certain_o true_a which_o be_v but_o his_o own_o 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